How to avoid the CSA
Many people come to this website looking for advice on how to avoid the CSA and avoid paying the CSA. The truth is that if you’re employed you have very little option as eventually the CSA will go to your employer and hit them with a deduction of earnings order (DEO) which will take money from your salary before your receive it.
There’s nothing your employer can do about it because the CSA will threaten them with bailiffs if they don’t comply.
However, there is a way you can avoid the DEO from the CSA, and that’s to be contracted. If your employer will allow you to go self employed, so you submit your own self assessment tax return, the CSA cannot issue a DEO. You deal with your own tax, therefore they have to go through you.
This way you can claim for travel expenses to and from work in your self assessment, and other costs as well, such as equipment. Your ‘take home’ pay would be much lower and the CSA would only be able to claim less from you.
If anyone has any other ideas on avoiding paying the CSA please let us know below, we’d be glad to hear from them and would like to share them with everyone else who is having trouble with the CSA.
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I would not think that it would be a good idea to tell people that they can lower their child support or even avoid outright the CSEA by becoming an independent contractor. Courts don’t look too kindly on that. I’m no fan of the CSEA–okay, I’m more of a fan of Hitler than that group of bureaucrats–but this sort of thing is the type of action that they love to trump out when they are going after the “deadbeat dad”. If you want to prop up your income with a second job or have legitimate reasons not related to child support to go this route that’s cool. But if you march that in like you’re going to get a ticket out you’re in for a rude surprise.
Not paying the CSA doesn’t get you out of your obligation to get your child support payments to the other parent.
So if you’re not paying the CSA, how are you complying with the court order and paying the child support otherwise? Directly to the child’s mother? What’s the diff other than a bunch of headache.
Additionally, since they’re not collecting the CS, they’ll just label you in arrears. And then you’ll be on the hook for showing up in front of your judge to PROVE you’ve been paying the CS as ordered, and then explain to the judge why you aren’t paying through the CSA also as ordered.
Not worth the legal costs to fight something that gets the same results. Unless you’re talking about defrauding your children of the ordered child support because you’re planning on not only stiffing the CSA, but also stiffing your kids.
Shame on you. On Father’s Day of all days. What a great role model for your kids you must be. … NOT.
QUOTE – However, there is a way you can avoid the DEO from the CSA, and that’s to be contracted. If your employer will allow you to go self employed, so you submit your own self assessment tax return, the CSA cannot issue a DEO.
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Amongs it’s ‘new powers’ CMEC will be able attach a DEO directly to your bank account, including joint accounts.
Among the new so called powers CMEC have no LAWFUL right to attach DEO anywhere, what we at dead beat dads association have found out is that you can prosecute the banks, you can prosecute your employer and you can prosecute the CSA. As for the courts well we have found a way to dismiss the Magistrates, yes sounds far fetched but we did it in a case last Friday 19th June, we represented a guy in court who had been summoned for a liability order, we dismissed the Magistrates who thought we were joking at first but they soon realised we could do it,and it was lawful too.
Please have alook at http://www.deadbeatdadsassociation.co.uk for more information
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An Act of Parliament is a statute law, which has been passed by the House of Commons and the House of Lords, also given Royal accent by the Crown.
Unlike the USA, UK courts do not display a gold fringed flag indicating Admiralty Law, but the Royal Coat of Arms.
Quote ” that corporation comes in the form of the Birth Certificate, again law of the sea “birth” as in birthing in the dock, can you see the smoke clearing now?
Birth? surely you mean berth!
There are 441 homophones in the English language.
obviously John M is a woman pretending to be a man
I find it hard to understand that your talking about paying the CSA, when you won’t be paying the CSA because you would be paying for your child. If the parent(s) of the child(ren) think what the CSA have assessed them at is too much or too little, then both parties should reach an agreement without the CSA.
For the parents who can’t reach a private agreement, then the CSA are going to try and get maintenance for the child(ren). If the NRP does not want to pay for their own child(ren), then the CSA are going to set up a DEO.
I don’t understand NRP’s who try to get away from supporting their own child(ren). I do sympathise with some NRP’s however, as i can imagine some PWC’s will just want to take more money from them to fund their own lifestyle.
Chris, your ideas sounds good in theory but you are missing a fundamental point that ONLY the PWC chooses whether the services of CSA are used or if payments are acceptable via a private agreement. Even if the NRP offered more money than the CSA assessment, the PWC can still choose that it goes through the CSA.
Regarding the issue of supporting your children – although the CSA maintenance payments from the NRP are passed onto the PWC, the NRP has no influence over how that money is spent which can result in it not actually being spent on your children. CSA assessments do not take into consideration the bills of the NRP, or the PWC, and are simply based on a percentage of the NRPs income regardless of the lifestyle/earnings of the PWC.
The CSA are trying to use DEOs as the default method of payment opposed to resolve matters of non compliance. Without going through a court they can take 40% of your wages without asking any questions, to pay off a fictitious arrears figure within 2 years.
Harold, it should also be noted that the PWC doesn’t have to request the CSA’s involvement. Even if the PWC doesn’t want the CSA’s help (or hinderence) the CSA will automatically get involved if the PWC is in receipt of benefits. This is to reclaim money spent by the government on benefits to the PWC.
The money the NRP pays then isn’t all given to the PWC, they only get a percentage of it. The rest is used to pay back the benefits receives by the PWC to the government.
Michael, not as of 27th October 2008 when CMEC came into fruition. As of 27th October 2008 a PWC on benefits can choose a private agreement and declare the amount received with the job centre. I think they get to keep £20, which was originally £10, to be increased in the future.
http://www.cmoptions.org/en/maintenance/changes.asp
Harold’s post above is correct, re benefit claimants.
However, EITHER parent can request the involvement of the CSA/CMEC.
Further info can be found at http://www.afairercsaforall.co.uk
Reading back, my point may not have read clearly i.e.
EITHER parents can request CSA/CMEC involvement but ONLY the PWC has the ultimate choice whether payment can be made by private agreement, removing the need for CSA/CMEC.
Had a thought. If the NRP opens the CSA/CMEC case then does that mean that only the NRP can close it in order to move to a private agreement?
I was specifically thinking about CSA cases being opened by the PWC so even if there is an offer to match or pay more via private agreement, only the PWC has the exclusive decision whether the CSA are involved or not. There again I expect cases opened by NRPs are in the minority.
Hi Harold,
No mate, the NRP would not be solely able to close the case in order to move to a private agreement, regardless of whether they initially requested agency involvement.
right, this ones relates to people who have businesses,
sell your business to a relative (trusted of course) then have them pay you a “training wage” say this is £60 a week for your contribution to their business. The contribution from £60 works out at around £5 a week maintenance payment. (the reality is you rn the show, its your business and they just front it on paper)
simply get the relative to have the money in their account and lend u the cash card for living.
that’s the barebones of it, its easier if you sell your business to your new wife and you have a current account together. Stinking csa wont be able to touch you!!!!
a good accountant should be able to cook the books just nicely!!!!!
Watch her face when the csa tell her she’s getting 20 quid a month!!!!!
I’m astounded by the amount of ‘getting one over’ on the ex’s comments there are on here. That isn’t what the CSA is about surely. Isn’t it about getting what is rightful maintenance for children who are the result of break up from their parents?
Surely, the CSA have a formula to working out Child Maintenance (I’m not saying it doesn’t need to be challenged in parts). So why, therefore, do some parents think it’s alright to try and pay less? Surely, if one wants to pay less money, then he should have his children to stay with him overnight more. CSA would then flex his calculation accordingly.
What can be right about people, neither wanting to see their kids much, nor pay for them. What lengths people seem to go through to ‘hide’ their funds, ‘cook’ the books, move to become LTD companies etc etc. And what’s more…people blatantly boast of these facts!!!
Shouldn’t a man be able to look at himself and call himself a ‘Man’ more if he was happy to be providing what was right for his children?
Well after 2 years of fighting the incompetent CSA, having paid £400 p/m voluntary contributions until their involvement in my life have lost a business (ltd) and had to issue p45’s for all the staff. Come January I won’t be able to afford to see them in Scotland after travelling to see them every month for the last 2 years and attempting to increase access blocked at every step.
Now unemployed I have no time for the CSA, they are legalised scum anyone who thinks otherwise.
To the comment from the woman above if you suffered under it you would understand better why people go to such lengths. Honesty doesn’t pay!
Michaela, firstly I don’t think you should refer to all NRPs as always being the father. This is the majority of cases but not the rule of thumb.
I agree that whenever money is involved matters will generally get messy, in a lot of cases the receiver regards it personally as “money that is owed to them” and the payer regards it personally as “money it is costing them”. This will always cause a battle.
I also agree that the CSA/CMEC formula should be challenged e.g. I don’t agree that a percentage of the NRPs 2nd family disabled child benefit should be counted as the NRPs income with a percentage passed to an able bodied child in the 1st family?
Your solution of the NRP having the child stay overnight more often to reduce their Child Maintenance payments fails in a number of ways. Firstly, some PWCs use this to their advantage and specifically prevent overnight stays with the NRP to ensure they get more Child Maintenance. Secondly, if the NRP and PWC after a relationship split are able to come to amicable agreements then there would often be no need for the CSA.
Now consider that the CSA have “stepped up the heat” with their tactics on pursuing NRPs by issuing Liability Orders without going to court, raiding bank accounts without going to court etc on arrears that are far too often “invented” and impossible to challenge. The CSA will take dual action to retrieve arrears and demand it is repaid within a short period of time without negotiation and regardless of whether it places the 2nd family in poverty. This will certainly contribute to destroying any good relations between the NRP and PWC.
There will be some NRPs whose only intention is to avoid their responsibilities but there are also a lot more that are being unjustly treated like criminals by this new non-departmental public body (CMEC) and placing their families in atrocious situations with no way out, to the point that some have committed suicide.
Therefore a “Man”, as you have stated above, is all too often left with just one option which is to try and fight CMEC’s communistic policies and bullying tactics to ensure they maintain the welfare of themselves and their families.
child support agency are just taking the p*** they are legalised robbers just clawing money off the working class to save the failing goverment this cock up should be band and stop screwing the honest tax payers. no wonder people milk it on the dole its a discrace.
quote “An Act of Parliament is a statute law, which has been passed by the House of Commons and the House of Lords, also given Royal accent by the Crown.”
An act of parliament is statute legislation only, it becomes a law if we consent to it and there are several ways they con you into consenting without your knowledge.
quote “Unlike the USA, UK courts do not display a gold fringed flag indicating Admiralty Law, but the Royal Coat of Arms.”
We suggest you take a closer look at that one because it is NOT the royal coat of arms, it appears to be at a first glance, again the con is there.
Quote ” that corporation comes in the form of the Birth Certificate, again law of the sea “birth” as in birthing in the dock, can you see the smoke clearing now?
Birth? surely you mean berth!”
Yes the point we are making is to illustrate how this agency who think they are or above the law, use Admiralty law known as the Chid Support Act to help them make money for their company, yes that’s right they are a company again do your research more thoroughly.
We have helped another two fathers who were being committed to prison, and that is by not contracting with the courts
Fingers crossed it wont have a negative effect at a later date…
BTW, its surprising what can be learnt from doing a bit of research – a little knowledge can stand ‘people’ in good stead.
Without doubt, everybody should take the time to research and satisfy themselves of facts 🙂
Hows this for research.. We’ve had a member ‘pwcneedshelp’ on the forum http://www.afairercsaforall.co.uk since the 15th March 09, who signes all their posts and emails as ‘steph’.
fromSherri Barnett
[email protected]
dateWed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:19
signed-byyahoo.co.uk
Hello guys,
many thanks for the heads up as a mother i take these matters seriously of course. I have looked at the new site and will be joining shortly,i do however have one question to ask if anyone could be so kind as to afford me an answer.
Bearing in mind what you have said,the new site etc,it has been brought to my attention about an organisation claiming to be a charity of which i am very dubious.I have been given a newspaper,rather an old issue by a former work colleague and was asked to contact the person who runs it. This i duly did via e mail and i was given some websites links to look at in my own time.
After having done this i decided to dig a little myself and discovered that this organisation isn’t all it claims to be! The question i have is about Common Purpose and have you heard of it at all? Do you think we should be at all concerned about it and does it have any bearing on what is going on with the government at present?
Sorry to ask but it is for my own peace of mind if nothing else.
many thanks and well done for doing what you do and devoting a lot of time in the process
Yours Steph.
What are you going on about now we do not have a yahoo email, my do we still pose that much of a threat to you that you need to think of something like this to try and start up another argument.
Nice to know you still think about us though
The email is in AFCSAFA email account and the senders account is clearly marked – Suppose if any 3rd party would like a screen shot, we can accommodated.
The link goes to posts, which was in full flow on and around the 15/03/09. https://www.csahell.com/im-in-financial-difficulty-due-to-the-csa-141.html#comments
You keep asking ‘can you see the smoke clearing now?’ – Well yes, definitely, and I expect so can everybody else!
As regarding to starting another argument – scroll back through the posts – yours on the 18/10/09, was in reply to one I made on 23/06/09.
Finally, regardless of how flattering and amusing to have you as members and pick our brains via email – You should try and go it alone 😉
Can anyone give my husband advice our CSA has just doubled at the same time as my husband losing his job, he went out and found some work at a agency for 3 weeks earning £430 and now he has gone self employed having to wait 7 weeks for some wages.
We have informed CSA that he has gone self employed, was that the right thing to do.
We are not wanting to not pay CSA we just cannot afford what they wanted us to increase to, we were going to continue to pay the amount we had been paying before and after spending hours and hours on my computer trying to find advice , we just rang them to inform them. the change of circumstances
HAVE WE DONE THE RIGHT THING,
From the looks of things in the process of my own research, the UK has become just as much of a complete anti-male society as the American Empire here. Rather quite sad actually and having read many comments in many places the propaganda machine of these thieving privateer agencies is all too effective. It is always the same rhetoric from the feminazi mouthpieces and blinded fools. Chin up my brothers across the pond! It is looking like what you need to do is accept the fact that a succubus parasitic leech has ruined your life in your country and will regardless be rewarded for being lazy and too stupid to get a job to support their decision and slut lifestyle. Once you make that critical step, learn what countries your nation has CS agreements with and then choose a new home not on that list. Learn the language and leave to your new home. Here in the Empire they try silly things like suspending Passports, however the Mexican border is wide open and a small stash of cash can purchase a new ID in Mexico which can then be used to springboard anywhere. Not sure what similar options you have like that on your island but if you can take a holiday to Mexico it may be a start to being able to actually rebuild your life again and find freedom again.
Do your mates a favor too and enlighten them on the parasitic nature of Westernized women and their society so they can avoid them like the plague that they have become. If the governments want to only pursue female destructive interests, they can have them exclusively as a workforce and let them see how that works out. Leave your country!
I cant belive people side with the csa! they are totally incompetant and the left hand doesnt know what the right hand is doing. i have followed my payment schedule to the letter correct payment dates and amounts yet they had the nerve to tell me i had arrears they first told me 1 amount then then told me another amount and then a third different amount. when i looked deeper into this they had assesed me as paying more than i needed to but the answer they gave me was the assesment couldnt be changed so my arguement is why does the inland revenue work on actuals i.e if you havent earned it they wont take it or if they over charge you they will give it you back and the csa work on assesments. how can two government bodies have such different rules? when i asked the csa who i could take this up with they told me they are governed by themself, whats all that about if i have a problem with a bank i go to a financial ambusman. the csa are a law unto them self and i was told by them i face prison if i dont clear my arrears, never mind three hot meals a day and roof over my head. if i was incorecct id pay but it now the princable of the matter the system needs to change before more parents without care are pushed to higher states of desperation.
I fully doubt there is any NRP who has had dealings with the CSA and been happy with their service. I really don’t understand their calculations, how on earth can merely taking a percentage of someone’s earnings justify the welfare of their children. The more you earn the more you pay no wonder so many NRP’s go on benefits and look for ways out, as the harder they work the heavier they get punished. If it was about supporting your child then there would be alot more willing NRP’s i.e if I earn £300 a week i pay 15% (£45) per week which is surely way more than it costs to provide a contribution to a childs welfare. However if I get a pay rise to £500 then I pay £75 per week. This to me shows no interest in looking out for the welfare of the child just merely punishing the NRP for working hard. I would be very willing at contributing to my childs welfare but the CSA make it a personal battle and they are also extremely incompetent an all areas as most people having dealings with them will be fully aware. I don’t blame any NRP for avoiding or trying to avoid CS payments whatsoever.
Having read over your comments made 21st November ‘deadbeatyank’ I’ve come to the conclusion that it is aparant your screen name is more than suited to you.
Being a mother myself and having had so many battles with my ex to contribute even the price of a box of nappies a week I gave my ex plenty of oppourtunity to come to a private arrangement before taking my case to the csa.
I went for 6months asking just £10 a week, rarely receieving this money (aound 4 payments in the 6month period) I even wrote out a break-down of the things i would buy for our child with the oh-so princely sum of £10 per week and offered him to accompany me to the supermarket so he could make sure i wasnt spending the money on myself!
Still he refused to pay with excuses like I have been paid late, or simply ill give you it next week, ‘next week’ rarely ever came.
I would also like to point out that you cannot as a women just invent a sum of money you would like and call the csa and demand that as arrears.
Having gone through the 6 month period with £40 from my ex I became tired of hearing the excuses from him when he was employed full time earning a very good wage and explained my situation to them.
They replied with “we can only start your case from the date you call us, then we make an assesment on the amount of wages he recieves, 15% of which will come to you for your child” and contrary to what seems to be popular belief over this side of the pond, if as a mother you work for a living you recieve the full 15% of what they take as opposed to the £20 before money is stopped from your benefit so really that does nothing but encourage the attiitude towards work surely???
You obviously have had a bad experience with the csa where you are but to encourage the abandonment of your child(ren) to live in a foriegn country rather than face upto your parental and financial responsibilities is unforgivable and to go to such lengths to avoid payments just shows you up for being ignorant, tight fisted towards your child(ren) and shows a complete lack of care, if men are more than happy to help put the child(ren) on this earth why should they not share in the responsibility of helping to giving them a decent up-bringing instead of calling women sluts for choosing to keep the children they become left with when people like you leave and probably refuse to pay without the csa.
Absolutley disgusting.
If such a thing exists I hope you come back to this life as a women that gets left with children to actually experiance what its like for women to bring them up un aided in any way.
For the people that freed the nations in WWII and died for their beliefs, you are a shocking disgusting and miserable example of a man and they woulf turn in their graves.
I applaud the csa and any other government body in the world who force errant and spineless fathers to pay maintenance to thier children, and what i’d say to any man that aggrees with your extremist point of view, why dont you all go to mexico and watch the borders close in front of you as the Westernized women would certainly be better off!
Bye Bye!
Having read ‘Disgusteds’ post. I would like to add that although I dont agree with deadbeat yank, I can understand where he is coming from. I am a man who was driven out of a loveless marriage.
My ex wife (bitch from Hell) has stoppd me seeing my two wonderful kids. For nearly 2 years, I have continued to pay the CSA ( W*nkers). Even when i was on JSA.
Due to their cock ups I am now in arrears.
We are not all spinless men. The majority of us want to pay for our children, oh and see them.
My question is this – I have a 9 year old daughter. We split up before baby was born, through one thing and another, she met another bloke he was at the birth and they subsequently got married. We went different ways after stumping up a few grand, i was told in no uncertain terms that we no longer needed any money etc etc……Last week i had an email that she thinks its right my daughter should know her real father and that she had contacted the csa as she was now divorced. Two years ago they wanted to adopt her…………..what do i do? i have never not offeredto help, affluent, well travelled blah blah blah……..CSA are w********
Hi People
room for a new one?
i’ve been paying for the last 12 years, and although the way the CSA assesses changed a while back to 15% for one child I have been told i can’t be put on the new system and have to stay at 25% (jointly) untill it finishes, (although i have recently have had a change of circumstances which might alter things) is there anyway i can be assesed on the new system please.
I agree with Mr. D. Hornblower,
I having been fighting for regular contact with my daughter (4 years old) for 16 months.
I have no problems with paying £57/ week (was actually £65 before the ex went to CSA, LOL). what I do have a problem with is the £7000+ I have had to pay out so far for court and solicitor fee’s (and still growing)
I’m a devoted dad, with so much love to give.
My daughter has no say over want she wants, I just hope one day we are able to have a proper relationship just like her mother has with her.
I do agree with the CSA’s involvment when an NRP is unwilling to provide financial support fot their child(ren). I don’t agree with the powers the CSA has in getting the money from the NRP.
Why should NRP’s have to fight in court and throw out more money to get contact, when the PWC can make one phone call and they get resuls straight away.
If the courts used their powers we wouldn’t have PWC’s alienating there children against NRP’s. What a messed up world we live in. God help our grandchildren!!
is this legal??????
The Action The CSA Take
Having collected relevant information from the parent with care the Child Support Agency then processes the application and requests maintenance payment from the non resident parent. The payment can be taken directly from the parent’s wages, if they refuse to pay maintenance. The CSA can also use the courts to claim the payment, and can freeze accounts, register the parent’s debt, force the sale of property, confiscate a driving licence or send the parent to prison.
Can someone give me any advice? My ex (PWC) is extremely wealthy, earning approx 1/4 million p.a. I earn about 30,000 Is it true that the c.s.a. only look at NRP’s income? It doesnt seem right to me that they can take 20% of my income when he is so wealthy.
I have to say how pissed off i am with everything, i have always had contact with my daughters and love them very much but my ex has dissapeared, moved house, changed schools and got the csa involved. Luckily i new she was a spiteful bitch so all the money ive paid to date has been done through a bank account so i can prove it. However im now in a lose lose situation. I have to pay 500 a month, yes 500 and she has stopped me seeing them. My solicitor is telling me to take her to court but how can i when i pay her 500 a month. im becoming more and more overdrawn each month trying to survive. and by the way, she earn 35K. what a JOKE this country is, there are so many dads who dont care but those of us who do are penilised by an unjust system that screws dads to the point that they cant even afford solicitors appts, when she earns good money. I can only hope my children undersand when they are old enough or the ex gets struck down…..
oh sorry and by the way, im even looking at moving abroad cos not all countries will tolerate the csa. there is no issue providing for children but regulate it and take everything into account. there are too many people on the dole that im also having to pay for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Oh I think it’s awful, one parent limiting the access of their child(ren) from the other parent, for no other reason than to be spiteful! I think the Government should be more supportive towards the concept of shared care. It works very well, children having the best of both Worlds. I have never denied my ex access…but listen to this, he voluntarily chose to be an every other week-end dad. Now, this WILL annoy all you hard-working guys who pay substantial amounts of Maintenance to their ex’s…last year he drew out £267,000 drawings from his business in one year, but he has since strategically put himself into limited company, is pleading poverty and only needs to pay me and his son (who he left for the office trollop) £40 per week?!! It will be interesting to see the outcome of the appeal and if the Government supports this behaviour? Will it be acceptable for the rich men with the contacts to only pay 0.00005% of their salary to their children, whereas every other person has to part with15-20% of theirs? We will see!!!!
The CMEC are taking £6.50 from my JSA, I am alredy being deducted £3.45 for a Social Fund loan. How can this be right? I do not have enough money to live on, surely this is unlawful. I give what I can to my son direct when I see him. But this seems to make no odds.
Can anyone tell me how to be put on the “new” system. I having been paying for a long time on the old system and they wont change me over to the new one where you pay 20% of your take home pay.I did read they are now changing again.I have to pay alot more than 20%.
Hi guys and girls,
Just a quick one – re travel expenses to see my 9 yr old. I drive approx 1,200 miles a month to see my son after his mother moved away with him to Lincolnshire; I live in London. Does anyone have an idea of how much of that the csa will take into consideration?
Hi Stu
The CSA will take all travel expenses to have access with your children into consideration when you fill out a variations form. This will reduce your payments.
HOWEVER – they will tell the mother this, and tell her that she can keep her CSA payments higher by refusing you access to your children. This could cause you to lose all access as a result.
If you have a really good and trusting relationship with your ex, then ask for a variations form. Otherwise, you might want to grin and bear it just to keep up contact.
Hi Stu,
As Michael has correctly advised, your travel costs could be taken into consideration. However, you will only be able to have travel costs OR shared care award taken into account for the maintenance calculation.
Just about done!
I have a new baby on the way with my new partner, I have a son with her all ready. I am still not seeing ny children from my first marriage and i am stil paying for them £760.00 per month (inc arrears due to the CSA cock ups).
I live in Council house after leaving my marriage with only the shirt on my back. Everything my new partner and I have is begged or borrowed. I am in danger of being made redundant, so this means I lose my car.
My ex wife gets everything paid for by the goverment and me. I am back in the family court for the 3rd time, to try and gain access to my children. She has destroyed any relationship that I had with them. I dont know what to say to them if I do eventually see them. She stopped me making phone calls to the as well. They are 10 and 5, I am dead to them ( or I feel that way).
I sit in my car on the way home from work and find myself crying my heart out.
I have been arrested twice for made up allegations by my ex, and gone to court the latest one was last week for harrasment. The CPS dropped the case as there was no case to answer! But for safe measure I get a restrainig order against me. I couldnt afford a solicitor so I got tripped up by hers, who the goverment paid for!!
The Strain that this has put on my new partner and me is immense, but it has made us stronger. I believe that when you are made you are 2 souls, that go their seperate ways, and you spend an eternity looking for your twin soul. Well I have been lucky and have found mine.
I hope that I can just stay strong for her.
As a punchy ex boxer I say to all those parents out there in the same situation.
Keep your head down, your gaurd up and dont let the bastards grind you down!
i have hust been told after 14 years i have a child i am not on the birth certificate or had anything to do with her it was a 1 night stand. i am married with 3 children. does my wifes earnings and working tax credit get taken into account if i have to pay maintenance. she will have to take me for a blood test first.also how far can csa backdate money thanks all
Hi Mikey,
As you have just been reffered to the CSA you will be under the ‘new’ system.
I recently got sent to the CSA by my ex after paying her privately for the last 5 years. The CSA were actually quite helpful..they said they could not back date any payments but would start collecting from me from the first day they wrote to me.
Also, I heard horror stories about my ex getting a cut from my wife – this is incorrect, under the new system the CSA will not touch my other half’s income.
Be sure to include the fact that you have three children living with you. You pay 15% of your net income (after Income tax, pension contributions etc) if the blood test shows you are indeed the father. As I understand it with 3 kids living with you the CSA will not take into account 25% of your net income – i.e you will pay 15% of 75% of what you take home per week (about 11% of your net income).
Hope this helps,
Stu
Hi,just thought I’d mention be careful & check first before opting to go onto the new system as I heard somewhere that for the first child you pay 15% of your wages & for 2 children you pay 17% & for 3 children you pay 19% of your wages….sounds a lot better doesn’t it ? but these percentages are taken from your GROSS PAY …. not your net pay & you could be paying a lot more than you are now,not 100% sure about this,but I think I’ve seen it on a website somewhere !
Hi J.J
The rates on CMEC will be based on Gross income;
12% for one child
16% for two children
19% for three or more children
If a Non resident parent is good enough to plant a seed to create life, isn’t he good enough to pay maintenance for the upkeep of his child?
WHY ON EARTH WOULD PEOPLE BE AGAINST PAYING FOR THERE OWN CHILDREN?????