My son lives with me but CSA are making up arrears for me to pay!

June 14, 2017

Myso was born in year 2000. I paid CSA for 16 years. Them my son moved in (full-time!) with me. I therefore stopped paying. Child Benefit is now with me and I have not recived a penny towards my son from mum. Yesterday, I received a phone call from CSA who said despite the fact I had always been in credit there was one week from last year still unpaid. I therefore paid it over the phone. I was then shocked by what the lady said next… “we will now check all payments and calculations from the year 2000 and if we have got our calculations wrong we will either refund you OR advise how much arrears you owe!!!”. Refund me? as it – I couldn’t believe it. I said my son lives with me now full-time and you would ask me (if you got your calculations wrong to pay you even more money? she said “I know this seems wrong but yes”. I absolutely loathe the CSA! Bunch of evil so and so’s when it comes to how they treat good hard-working paying fathers. Comments and advice very welcome. A Woried Father.

CMS deletes evidence so they can threaten you

June 13, 2017

Child Maintenance Service, “Yes your guilty till you prove your innocent”, it’s all change at the CMS, in the old days with the CSA they would have your case file on archive, just like the family divorce court keeps a copy of your divorce proceedings for years! Just like an ordinary business keeps it receipts and invoices for several years! But wait the CMS service doesn’t keep case files, this reduces the need for warehouse storage and administration.

After a Tribunal hearing, the CMS shreds the paperwork! Thus if a situation or investigation occurs in the future, the paying parent cannot request a “subject data request” for a copy of the case file so ‘NACSA’ can independently audit the case file to make sure the CMS has taken into account your financial situation and added the sums and payment liabilities up correctly!

This cost cutting DPA avoidance strategy also shows itself when you receive a phone call saying, “these arrears, how do you to pay!” and you reply, “last month we went to a tribunal hearing and a proposal was made! In front of the judge and the CMS representative!” You then receive the comment “Oh, I don’t know anything about a tribunal hearing, my computer doesn’t say anything about one!” Then you say “Oh! Don’t you have my case file or don’t you ‘scan’ documents and load them onto my digital case file? So you can see every page on your computer screen?”

“No!” is their reply “I’ll have to obtain a copy of your tribunal hearing, what was the ‘SC’ number of your hearing? Then I can order a copy”.

“I don’t have it in front of me, but if you contact your court representative Mrs ‘Blar Blar’ and ask her what she did with her 500 page copy of all the evidence including payment reciepts, bank statements, medical reports and evidence my son had left school and my ex-wife was fraudulently trying to claim child maintenance payments by BARE FACED lying to the CMS by saying he attends collage over 11 hours a week, when he attends less than the qualifying legal limit of 11 hours.

“Ok I’ll see what I can find” (CMS)

Then two weeks later after receiving a threatening demand letter for the arrears you recieve a phone call from a new “HAVE AGO”. “Harassment and intimidation” call centre staff member to ask, “hello I just called as we haven’t heard from you over making your arrears payments”.

You respond by saying, “where is the man I spoke too who said he was going to get a copy of the court order thing and investigate it?”

“Sorry! I don’t know anything about that! The computer doesn’t tell me anything about that. I’ve just been handed this case.” “So how would you like to pay”. (CMS)

“When you get the case file out of your ‘archive dept.’ and investigate all the evidence, then you can get back to me and we resolve the issue of the arrears”.

“I’m sorry, but are you refusing to make a payment arrangement, otherwise I have no other option but to send it to ‘enforcement’ and that will mean a court hearing” (CMS)

“Do what you like! And while you’re at it give my regards to Mrs ‘Jean Smith’ the women’s rights activist leader who is the governments advisor for the CSA / CMS and who set up the CMS and its procedures and policies, she also runs her own single mothers group to advise them on how to navigate and maximise their CMS claims while she is the representative to the CMS ‘stake holders’ for the performance, productivity and monthly government target attainment statistics of the CMS.

Obviously despite the CMS using PO BOX numbers it wasn’t long before we found out what secure security guarded industrial site your officers are located at? Presumably just in case of a verbal physical attack against your staff by a divorced dad because of your unaccountable behaviour at the CMS. I would also like to mention I have contacted the “DIRECTOR GENERAL” of the child maintenance service with a subject data request and he confirmed that since the CMS was set up they have not prosecuted a single mother and fined her £1,000 for giving false misleading information to the CMS and making a fraudulent claim!

Yes! In a court of law such behaviour would be classed as “perverting the course of justice and contempt of court!” But at the CMS its water of a ducks back”.

So I’ll wait for someone else to call me demanding payment or a court hearing or the high court bailiffs at the front door!

Obviously you know from my non-existent case file at the CMS that for the last 10 years I have been diagnosed with Bipolar and I am unable to return to gainful employment for the rest of my life, due to my unacceptable erratic, uncontrollable, aggressive, violent physical and verbal out bursts due to my progressive neurological health condition with erratic manic and deep depressive mood swings of self-harming behaviour!

But then again of course you do, because you have a copy of this case file and my doctors, secondary doctors and forensic doctors medical reports were included in my tribunal case the other month! (debtor)

Two weeks later, a letter threatening legal action to collect the debt, or you receive a phone call.
“Hello I’m just ringing you about setting up a payment to clear the arrears you owe!” Oh I see sir, I didn’t know you had already spoken to us! I have just received this case and I have no information about that in front of me!” (CMS)

Ex lied to get son to move in with him and now wants CSA from me!

June 12, 2017

I have bought my 3 children up alone for the past 9 years and their father has avoided any payments by working cash in hand,he recently told my son a wicked lie,he told him that as a baby I tried to have him adopted,my son has now gone to stay with his dad and rarely talks to me even though I have assured him it is all lies,now my ex has applied for my boys tax credits, child benefit and also maintenance from me!!!!

Csa cannot or will not do anything even though he has 2 new cars on finance he claims he lives on less than £7 a week. My heart is breaking and I’m at my wits end. Please help someone or I don’t know what i will do.

Will moving to the UK ease my CSA worries?

June 10, 2017

Do you know anything about moving from Canada to England and if moving and not paying child support or unreasonable fines/fees/costs, etc will be a problem if I stay and get my citizenship in the UK? I have eligibility for UK Ancestry Visa.

I am not a bad guy just a victim of a very one sided unfair legal system and I see no end to being dragged into court yet again for almost anything. My ex-wife makes $75000/year, has a very secure job and a Masters degree education and the children 90% of the time and gaining. Any information is appreciated.

Ex demands more and CSA take her side

June 9, 2017

I have 2 kids and they both come under the CSA. 1 of my kids its all going ok regular 3 nights a week every week, now I was the same with my son but now his mum is making a lot of demands of me and as im not giving in she has stopped me seeing my son 1 night and then reported me to csa! I called and told them what shes doing and that I have all the proof on messages and there reply was oh well we have to take her word for it and you have to go to court! so basically she can do what she wants and then ask for more money! is this allowed? how will csa calculate this as I have one child 3 nights a week and one 2 nights.

I paid CSA in full and they still want more – they have ruined my life!

June 8, 2017

I earned £1100 a month as a teacher, the CSA charged me £680 for 2 children, one with each of two women both of whom kicked me out- for their desire to have an affair with someone else. I had to work 7 day a week 52 weeks a year, for 9 years I didn’t have a single day off. When my payments were coming to an end. they told me how much I’d need to pay for the last year, so I paid it in advance in full. They came back to me for more money!! They said that someone who’d paid as much as I had could not just go to paying nothing. This agency all but destroyed my life.

When I asked them to help me to see my children, which was because I had to work every day and their mothers had moved away, they said they wouldn’t help, they were just a collection agency. I have never seen one of ‘my children’ and now it is too late, I will leave them nothing in my will and in effect have no children.

Despite daughter being adopted CSA are still taking money from me!

June 7, 2017

Csa are ruining my life, my daughter got adopted when she was 13 and now she is 16, my partner and I split when our daughter was young, they moved away so that I could not see my daughter or have any contact with her, in 2012 I got a letter from csa that I had to pay for my daughter and arrears back to when we split. even though I was not allowed to contact my daughter or see her, I had no address for her although I tried damn hard to find her, I rebuilt my life and married and had a daughter, I ended up losing my house as couldn’t affoard my mortgage, because csa arrested my wages and ended up in debt with other stuff due to the amount of money csa where taking.

I ended up going bankrupt as just didn’t have the money and getting into more debt, as csa had taken me to court and also had there lawyer fees to pay, I thought that would be the end of it, that was in 2015.

They tried to take money again but I sent in adoption papers, to tell them that she was adopted, they phoned and said the case was closed, and they send out a letter confirming that. to this day no letter. I am now a carer for my wife as her health is bad, but just in January I received a letter saying that I am in arrears of nearly 3 thousand. and have to pay it, also they have started taking money from one of my benifits, I have taken this to cab as they are the ones that did my bankruptcy. how can I be in arrears and why am I still paying every 2 weeks for my daughter who is adopted. I hope cab can sort it out even they say that there is lack of communication and there is no arrears as bankruptcy covered everything. so stressed out. so angry.

CSA starting taking larger payments earlier than they informed us

June 6, 2017

My husband has been contacted by the CSA regarding payments. His daughter is now 19 so he no longer has to pay maintenance. There is arrears due to when his work was low, and owes around £1500. They wrote to him and said they will deduct £66 per week from his salary, which he informed them this would be too much as we have 2 young children at home, which he as informed them on so many occasions. They said they would look into this and re-calculate.

We have heard noting more from them, but they have now started deducting £75 per week. He contacted them to which they replied that this should nor have started until 19th June 2017. He has since spoken to his employer who say its nothing to do with them, and the CSA keep saying the same thing, and never calling him back to resolve the issue. We are willing to pay the funds back but £75 per week is far too much that we can not pay all of our bills and put food in our children’s bellies. I just need help to see what we can do.

Son’s ex is using CSA as an excuse to get more money

June 1, 2017

my son has been paying for his childrens school uniforms and any clothing that they need, and up until this week he has been seeing the children regularly keeping the youngest one every weekend from Friday till Monday where he drops him off at home ready for school.he also has him Wednesday. now his ex partner has said she is taking him to csa for money. but although she is working she also takes cocaine.

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