Wife has affair, I have to pay for it
Every time time i speak to the csa, all i get is quote “not our problem” unquote. I’ve two children, boy aged 3 and daughter aged 9. In April of 2009, i found out my partner of 11 years was having an affair. I left the family home, car, bank accounts. Basically i left everything except a few clothes, on the condition (her idea not mine) that she wouldn’t go to the csa and she would give me time to get my life sorted.
(oh by the way my ex earns over £Fifty Thousand per year) csa don’t take this into account. In august 2009 i received a letter from the csa, saying i had to pay £38 per week for my daughter. I rang them and explained that i was on job-seekers. 2 weeks later i received a letter from the csa saying that, because i was unemployed that i owned nothing, and had to pay nothing.
In april 2010 i started a new job. In june 2010, my wage clerk rang me and explained that the csa as asked for my employer to send 5 weeks worth of pay slips, which they did. Every Friday i take home £254. I’m single and live in a shared 2 bedroom flat. My rent is £80 a week, payed every Friday, my gas is £10 per week, my electric is £10 per week, my water is £10 per week, my council tax is £15 per week, and tv license is £3.25p a week.
I do not own a car so i have to use public transport to get to work, this is 2 buses which cost £8.50 stagecoach mega rider, and £9.50 for east riding coach. Also my children live in Nottingham and i live in east hull. I was traveling every 2 weeks by train to see my kids, which cost around £54 every 2 weeks. The csa now say i have to pay per week £38.50 for my daughter and £17.50 for my son per week, total £51 per week plus £50 per week for the arrears.
The csa now take from my wages 40% which is £102 per week, they say i owe over £1000 in areas. ill break this down for you, so total weekly pay is £254, my bills are as follows-
csa 40% £102
rent £80
elec £10
gas £10
c.tax £15
bus £18
tv £3.50
total £238.50
This leaves me a total of £15.50 per week for food. I cant afford to see my children anymore, iv not seen them now for over 9 weeks. I’ve spoke to the csa about 8 times now, all i hear is, not our problem, can u make a payment today to clear the arrears?
My bank account is £100 overdrawn (which the csa know) I’ve been to the citizens advise, twice, they give me a forum to fill in claiming hardmanship the first time, i filled this in and sent copys of all my bills and rent to the csa, they claim that they have not received this and explained that i wouldn’t get hardmanship anyway because I’m single and living without any children.
The second c.a.b visit, they advised me to give up work, i’ve spoken to a solicitor, who as advised me to write to my local m.p and local news papers, other than that, he said their isn’t anything that can be done. I’m not eating or sleeping, i feel my life is over, i cant live like this any more, i feel iv no choice but to end my life.
I cant see any other way out, i just don’t know what to do any more, i just dont understand how a human can be treated like this in today’s society. I doubt anyone can feed a family pet for £15 aweek nowwa days.
Oh, also another thing the csa wont take into account is that if i take time off work i dont get payed. I took time off for a funeral (one day) my week take home that week was £209, and i also took 2 days off for flu which weekly take home was £164, and also the company i work for have a summer 3 weeks shut down, in july. I only accumulated 4 days holiday pay for these 3 weeks off.
Also what know one seems to understand is if i give up my job, by given notice i cant receive any benefits for 13 weeks, i cant pay rent which in turn will make me homeless.
I really don’t know what to do and how much longer i can do this for, i really only see one way out which is just to stop all this suffering and end my life, the question i’d like answered is the initials C.S stand for child support?
How is me being either forced out of work or ending my life support my children?
Thank you for taken time to read this.
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you likes Meeester Morrell?
Me likes, usefull in the future!!!!
Does it apply to self employed though…lol
allan i see ur generalisin again with ur bitter,twisted pwc remarks.but iv noticed u wrote in a previous post that ucan only provide for just 1 of ur children.gosh wonder why ur exes r causing u hassle.but im a pwc,so im just bitter.eh.
No wonder my ears have been burning!! Allan your personal attack was completely unprovoked and unwarranted, I have never insulted you, quite the opposite in fact. I am not of the same ilk as your ex wife and as you claim your only issues are with PWCs that use the maintenance contributions for retail therapy and abuse the system I am at a loss to understand your reasons. There was absolutely nothing in my advice to he poster that was judgemental, and in fact both you and that crazy woman went on to offer the same advice!!Dolphin I asked you not to use this post to wage your personal vendetta against me, in a mature adult manner, and out of respect for the seriousness of the original posters situation, you responded like pathetic, belligerent child, again undermining the seriousness of the posters dilemma. Your second comment was completely unprovoked and ridiculously childlike, and showed your true personality, moronic to say the least and those that support your degenerate belief that fathers should ignore the needs of their first born in order to line the pockets of their new partners and pander to their insecurities are equally so. There are more holes in your story than stars in the sky, anyone with an ounce of intelligence would pick up on the discrepancies and contradictions in your tales and have to question the credibility of your comments. Dolphin and Allen, I really don't give a toss what your personal opinion of me is. I am emotionally stable and secure enough in myself to treat it with the irrelevance it deserves, others on here at not. You both state that the CSA bully and treat people with contempt, both of you are equally guilty of doing exactly the same. This poor man turned to this site because he was at the end of his tether and desperate for help, the majority of the responses were used to take cheap shots, sling insults and moan about individual personal circumstances rather than offer anything constructive, and that seems to be the general run of things on this site lately. Imagine the horror he will feel when he goes online to see what 'advice' he's been given?? He will have to pick the few practical lines of advice and support from the reams and reams of childish, pathetic, ramblings from the 'Woe is Me' gang who ambuse these posts to use as a stage for their overinflated egos.This site is no longer about sharing our problems with the CSA and looking for resolutions, its a cesspit of hatred, anger and bitterness aimed mostly at the PWC, who by the way is not here because she's raking in 40% of your income and forcing you to be homeless, those ones are not looking for a solution because they are very happy with the way things are. Its the PWCs that aren't getting any financial support from their exs and have come to this site because it claims that one of the main success stories of the website is in the teaching that the CSA isn’t necessarily biased towards the PWC, as many absent parents believe.What complete and utter shite! Most of the NRPs on here openly say the CSA is biased and in favour of the PWC, the majority of PWCs have come to this site because there ex's have refused to pay, broken contact, refused to cooperate or broken private agreements. We are not the ex's that are raking in 40% plus of your income, we are the ones getting either very little or no support at all for our children. We are very much in the same boats as the NRPs, left to live on very little or what the government deem necessary. Our comments are met with insults and disdain.Decisions made by the CSA cannot be the responsibility of anyone but the CSA, the PWCs do not have the power to dictate how much they deduct and can't be held responsible if they get it wrong. Do PWCs blame the NRP when the CSA does not forward the payments they have made, of course not, because they see reason and accept that it is the faults of the CSA and not the NRP.
Incredibly well said Charmaine.
Charmaine, describe clearly my personal attack on you!!! I did not take an attack on you and clearly you present a paranoid illusion that I did…As for providing for onme child, yes I do, as I have shared care… secondly I provide xmas cards and B/day cards to the others who I dont see…As for the original poster, he clearly states his case I I clearly state my support regarding his sufferings, he needs to know he's not alone,As a man, I am able to present voice of understanding,I see through the eyes of a man and a heart of a man and therefore am able to understand a man better than any woman can as much as I can see through women due to my education by experience of women and female PWC's as according to my experiences..How do I gemneralise all PWC's when I clearly comment my distaste towards only selfish arrogant Greedy PWC's???Why do you persist in demanding I have to repeat myself so that in can sink in that I am unsympathetic to unreasonable PWC's and not the reasonable PWC's… how many times do you need me to repeat myself????
Charmaine, in no way did I provide a personal opinion of yourself!! I have however provided my opinion of SJP, Lisa and Annika!!!!
Dolphin, dont be bothered by charmaines appearance, she obviously needs to be noticed…. I understand about the dog mess that doesnt come off so easily!!!! It will always stay there.. but its the smell thats the most offensive rather than the appearance lol……I used one of your tricks and cut and pasted this, and you don't consider this to be a personal opinion of me??
There have been times when your comments have 'appeared' to be generalized towards all PWCS but….Again, cut and pasted!!I am not of the same ilk as your ex wife and as you claim your only issues are with PWCs that use the maintenance contributions for retail therapy and abuse the system I am at a loss to understand your reasons. This statment clearly shows I understand that is not your intention.
Allan if you read my response to the original post properly you will see that I only showed empathy for the situation and disgust at his ex wifes and CSAs treatment of the man, you chose to read that as being judgemental and delving. Peter was asking very similar questions to a NRP on a different post, how come he wasn't delving and being judgemental, or is it as you say, you can only see things through the eyes of a man in that respect as well. Asking questions for a man is showing interest and concern yet when a woman does it its delving and judging?? And once again, you offered him exactly the same advice as I did, speak to the ex and ask her to see reason!And it took seven posts to show your manly concern to the poster, even congratulating Dolphin before you directly addressed this man and his issues, and how about seeing through the eyes of a parent?? One of the saddest points of this case was that this man was no longer able to see his children yet the only advice given was with regards to money and revenge.
And my final point is I don't demand anything, especially you repeating yourself! I made it quite clear, as shown above, that I am aware that you claim to be unsympathetic towards unreasonable PWCs, its your definition of 'unreasonable' I am not clear on. And you very much did povide a personal opinion, one that was unfounded, unneccessary and unprovoked, again, as shown above
Helen, when did I say my ex's were causing me hassle???? In regards to monetary issues, the CSA are the problem but a couple of ex's and I have different problems that differ with each ex… 1 is beginning to be reasonable, and that I suspect is due to her husband being a reasonable guy but that is different to the issues of money….Current problems with ex's are residue to the original problems that myself and a few of my ex's have between ourselves, in which case none of the argumentative PWC's of whom I have had the pleasure to engage with in similar response, have any need to enter.. Your thoughts that you mention in regards to my ex's are entirely up to yourselves by your choice of conjecture rather than fact, this will clearly describe yourselves as people and as PWC's who are intent to argue with me about my opinions that I make regarding selfish arrogant greedy PWC's and duely many PWC's dislike!!!Helen, please tell me when I said that YOU are a bitter PWC!!!!!
Charmaine, you clearly have your own issues with Dolphin, I have not discussed you with Dolphin , so feel free to continue presenting your issues with myself as you feel are needed….As for my comment which you refer to as my insulting you…as follows……Dolphin, dont be bothered by charmaines appearance, she obviously needs to be noticed…. I understand about the dog mess that doesnt come off so easily!!!! It will always stay there.. but its the smell thats the most offensive rather than the appearance lol…. I was actually using the comment to soften the conflict you had between yourselves…… and not myself making a personal attack as which you currently accuse me!!! as regarding your appearance to the need of being noticed….. How is it if you didnt wish to be noticed did you not rise above Dolphins comment….You wished to engage in argument with Dolphin… because you needed your comment to be noticed else you could have inboxed rather than be noticed publicly on the forum… you clearly felt you needed to get your point across!!! you needed to be noticed…Yes! I am no different.. I like to be noticed too and I do not disguise this as clearly evident in my posts as I will fight my corner… I will defend any allegations you make which are untrue, and I have now to provide you with explanation..describing I was not directing any form of insult at you..I did not comment that you were a resemblance of dog excrement… however my comment was in reference to dog excrement rather than a commenting of opinion about yourself…!!!You and I both know dog excrement isnt as offensive in appearance as the odour it emanates!!!! that is how my comment was directed!!!I repeat… NOT a personal attack.. OK????!!!!!!!!!!!
Paul
i have for the last 16 years been in this position
i have two kids with my current wife of 8 years of age (twins )
a step daughter that i have brought up from the age of 12
i have two kids from a previous marriage and have today to attend court with a liability order that was served December the 24th ( happy Xmas nrp) i have had no chance to arrange solicitors etc or gain any fear of fighting
do i give up NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by the way my kids are 23 and 17
I WILL ATTEND COURT fight my corner and try to establish why i am £21,000 in debt and that my ex wife is living in the lap of luxury after telling lies and lie to every department going
after my business going bankrupt for £100.000 in 2007 and being on a low income now they still peruse you
small oaks grow into mighty trees fight stand together and you ,i, and every oppressed non resident father/mother will force this bunch of incompetent ,rude blood sucking leaches to answer to their actions over the last decade
no assessments
wrong figures,kids not taken into account,
lost paper work
contacting employers
no tax returns requested when self employed
lost jobs because of harassment from the csa
and the best one i wasn’t even divorced or separated from the dates that they are claiming
1994-2010 i got divorced 1996
but we struggle and muddle on regardless of the tossers on the phone, the letters, the abuse
life is not what you make it Paul its what you put up with !
fight on my friend and don’t let the b******s grind you down
you can contact me at any time for a rant or chat feel free
[email protected]
best regards
terry
Oh Allan. I am crying here stop it. That has made my day. Thanks Allan
Allan it is not just me she has been one evil cow with. My husband knew of her when he was wed to bitch. And he said she was one evil vinditive cow back then as well. So husband knows her.
I see, so charmaine has her issues with yourself because she is your hubbies ex?????I5t gets clearer… BTW charmaine, this is not a personal attack before you decide to comment!!!!!
Charmaine, you clearly havent read the book men from Mars and women from Venus… In order to bring a man away from his darkest corners within his mind, he requires humour and logic, women need to be acknowledged when they are in their darkest corners…The original poster was in a dark corner, I used whatever was needed to bring him out of that darkness!!!! He needed a man giving him his cheers onwards… the speech b4 going over into the no mans land… the winston churchill pick yaself up lad and lets do it scenario is adequate!!!!!!!!!
A woman who understands her mans deepest corners is less likely to to lose her man to another woman…. That's a fact..My scenario….. when I was in employment and was with my ex. I did all my working hours plus all available overtime (of cause to recover loss by DEO's)… I returned from work to find the woman I was with at the time had sat on backside all day with mates drinking and getting stoned… she expected me to do house cleaning and make meals, such expectancies I rebuked and disregarded…!!!!And I was called lazy, considering I worked in a Foundry!!!!
No not ex. My husbands ex wifes friend. She the ankle nipper!!! was husbands ex wifes friend back then……She was a evil vindictive bitch back then.
In them days she was a dirty cow…Keep your nickers on now he hopes….And no he never sleeped with her. It was her (Ankles nipper)sleeping about….
Clearly charmaine, my ex did not understand me, else we would not have parted, that was only one scenario!!!!! there a many many more scenarios which cause me to realise that parting was in the best interests for all…. My car for instance is a clear example of good reason to part from my ex!!!!!
Ah ha!! I see…. charmaine was the hubbies ex's bezzie… so to speak!!! well! I am unable to make comment as I have not had the pleasure to experience..lol but evidently there are issues between yaselves in regards to ya own histories between you and Charmaine… hopefully you will sort ya differences at some point but dont be clouded by the conflicts….. lol
The ankles nipper has a prob with me because, she thinks we should pay for a child that is not our child. Not husbands child. And his child is dead to him…That bothers her. As she must know the little evil shit. As I sai she is husbands ex wifes mate…
We paid for his child for 16 years. Took him all over..Got clothes toys all. But because of the person he has become we don't want anymore to do with him…Police know all about him..
I don't know her thank god. And do not wish too….
Allan, amazing how you fail to see the FACTS you constantly refer to even when they are in black and white. Within the the first five words of that sentence you are discussing me with Dolphin. And I fail to see how anyone could not take your comment as a personal insult, any sentences using the words appearance, needs to be noticed, smells and offensive that are directed at a specific individual is exactly that.And whilst your appreciate your attempt to soften the conflict, it had quite the reverse effect.And you're damn right I have issues with any person that has such a high level of self importance she feels that children should be denied support by their father purely because they are no longer in a relationship with their mother and that children should be placed in order of importance with their biological parent. Thats selfish, immoral and disrespectful to any child. Strange how it only seems to be the PWCs that have a problem with this view and disagree with it, does that mean that NRPs do think this should also be the case – Children should be allowed to be discarded when the father enters another relationship? Maybe we could have an additional skip at the local tips, "Children that are no longer required" on the sign, and when you guys have finished with your kids, you and your new partner can pop them down there on a Sunday with the hedge clippings! I have tried on, several occasions, to rise above Dolphins inane comments and remind her we had reached a stale mate and had agreed not to pass comment on each other any further, and I have done it in adult manner, but she couldn't leave it alone and had to keep antagonizing the situation, therefore it was her wish to continue to engage in an argument, not mine, and it certainly had nothing to do with my wish to be 'noticed'. Facebook inboxes are peoples private space and out of respect I would never inbox anyone unless a friend request was accepted or I sought permission and it was granted.My ego is well grounded and being the center of attention is not something I crave. Any response I make to peoples posts are done with genuine interest and empathy with their situation or to debate a point in a mature manner. Because, silly fat, ugly, smelly, nasty golddigging dog- bear I am, I actually thought that was what this site was all about!!! Patience and tolerance are not my strong points, but, in fairness to myself, I have tried to stop this thing with Dolphin but she appears to have the fixation issues you claimed a PWC had with you, so I'm sure you understand very well where I'm coming from. And as you, I have a very strong will and will eventually respond to anyone that crosses my path on such a personal level. I do try to do it an age appropriate fashion, but being a father you will also know that when dealing with a child you sometimes have to get down to their level and explain things in terms they will understand.You have taken the time to explain the thought behind your comments and that they were not aimed at me personally, and I appreciate that.
Ok as you think you are still at school.ONE CHILD = PAID FOR. WAS KICKED OFF AT 18 BY THE CSA. HAS TO PAY 8 MTHS BACK.2ND CHILD = NOT HUSBANDS CHILD. BEING MADE TO PAY FOR 2ND CHILD. OK 1ST CHILD PAID FOR2ND CHILD BEING MADE TO PAY FOR. NOT HIS CHILD.Do you understand now??? As for 1st child that is his child. Even the police said if he punched my wife in the tummy like that and killed my child, I would of give him a hideing of his life. SO GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT. Many have told you this.WE DO NOT AGREE WITH PAYING FOR A CHILD THAT IS NOT HUSBANDS CHILD.UNDERSTAND NOW????
Read what is there and not what you what to be there.Read what is there and not what you what to be there.Read what is there and not what you what to be there.
Allan you are great. You have made my day…Thank you!!!!
No Allan, I have no knowledge of who these people are, and despite Dolphins persistent claims otherwise she refuses to give me the husbands or ex wifes names in order to refresh my memory. We live in different parts of the country and I have not or never had 'best friends' in the situation she describes. I have absolutely no idea what she's going on about.And No, I did not state that the husband should be paying for a child that wasn't his, again, I agreed with her its wrong and they should get their money back. In fact I've agreed with her on many points, just the one I have an issue with, as pointed out previously, and I'm not budging from that opinion.And no, it does not bother me that Dolphin and her husband have such opinions of his child, I have already said before my comments made with regards to this were done emotionally, as a motherr and I then went on to say that I realised that I was not in a position to pass judgement because I had never had to deal with the horrendous experiences she described. I'm not doubting your experiences Allan, or the behaviour of your ex and you making a stand and saying its unacceptable that the money you contributed was not used to provide for the child is admirable. I think all PWCs are aware these women exist and all believe the powers that be should put a stop to it.
Allan Morrell, are we walking in eachs other shoes with regards to comments received by others or what?? How spooky!! Ive just been directed to a conversation between yourself and Maxine Knowles, whereby she makes personal allegations against you based upon information from third parties and never having actually met you herself. As a fellow sufferer,you will appreciate that I cannot let this go unchallenged.How do you suggest I respond to Dolphins unfounded, unproved comments about my cleanliness, promiscuity and lifestyle that she has gained from third party information and provides no evidence to back up??? This is not a dig against you Allan and is written with humour on my part, just hoping that after being in receipt of such comments yourself you will understand why I find them unacceptable and am not prepared to tolerate them. Like Woody, Dolphin seems to think she's 'found a friend' in you and, I suspect, that she views your comments made in response to mine as somehow an expression of support of her opinion of me and sees them as encouragement to continue her personal tirade
dont think dolphin will ever give up on insulting you.i think thatswot gives her somethin 2 help her get thru her day.lol.
Charmaine, I suggest belief in yaself is the only way forward…. you have to find ya own answers…. and only respond where required!!!Possibly you may comment as to your history as to your recognition or lack of recognition of persons known or unknown…. I can only provide comment in relation to my experiences and responses recieved and provided in my arguments,See how I deal with my arguments, hope that is of help!!!
I did forget Maxine as evident regarding my arguments with SJP, Annika and Lisa, thanx for the reminder of Maxine….I'd forgotten about her…. probably because I considered my argument done by result of her silence to my approaching argument…lol
Charmaine. who provided you the link.. re Maxine…. But you can see where there are PWC's who are prepred to engage in conflict without the mind of being able to apply a battle plan effectively.. unlike myself who has plenty experience in argumentative conflict and know how for dealing with attacks as evident in my battle wins!!!!they seem to think they have a battle plan until they are nuked by me…lol
Check this link charmaine!!!http://www.facebook.com/#!/notes/csahellcom/all-parents-should-pay-to-support-their-children/10150344102190175
this being in relation to the accusation first presented by Annika… SJP, Maxine and Lisa who also chose to engage and failed!!!!!
Your friend is back Tracyn. The one that thinks the world goes around her and her alone…Just asked her to get help…I have not set no profile up with a Lee on… This lady I do not know. Only ever seen her on here. Trayn is paranoid. I have never made any nasty comments like I have to you. You where the one I had a problem with. Not her. Tell her to get some help. And as I said before don't make commets about me or on my posts. And I will ignore the fact you are there. To us Charmaine Leworthy that shit evil brat is dead. 19 next month. Watch him come round now. He is not a child now. And if you or your mate do not like that than Fluff off. Your problem not ours. Now sod off.
Helen you have no ida what has been said. So plz keep out…As I said don't attack me. And you will not be attacked back..
Charmaine Leworthy
You where the one that cannot make up your mind. You are the one who said I was a nasty person for what I said about them evil brats. They are not children. He is a thing. 19 next month. If you don't like that. Then that is your problem. They are not fit to be called human…We will not pay for a child that is not even husbands. Do you get that. Or will you change your mind again. Now go away.
Paul
i write this after attending court today after a meeting with a very nice lady from the csa enforcements department based in lichfeild staffs
who didn’t have a clue as to my case my problems and most importantly as to why i owe £21,000
the case was adjourned from court until
1. i get my data protection file
2. i get my interim assessment changed to a full assessment
3. i have appointed a solicitor to review the case
4. have looked into my complaints against staff etc
5. sent me a copy of an up to date account of my arrears (if i owe any )
at this stage the lady admitted that the case would not make court if they pursued it today
do i hold out any confidence in the system NO NO NO NO !!!!!!!!
like i said earlier
don’t let the B******S grind you down
attend court and fight your case on a individual basis and hope it all goes well
n.b getting a solicitor to fight the csa is like having a hemorrhoid they all hang around the entrance but when the S***T comes near the retract back in a hole
i have tried 10 solicitors today to take this on and not one will
any advice any one
regards
terry
since when hav i attacked u.iv just stated that i tink u wud never stop attackin charmaine.no one disputes that u shudn,t be payin 4 a child thats not ur hubby,s.
nn.b
there were 57 liability enforcement orders in the court today
me thinks panic has struck the department
that s 57 non resident parents all in the same boat surly someone will notice ??
Copied and pasted from Charmaines fb profile….. Lorraine Moore Hi Charmaine,Just wanted to say I love your posts on the CSA group :-)Yesterday at 1:05am · 1 personLoading…Charmaine Leworthy Thanks Lorraine, loving the new stuff from Allan and Dolphin, what a complete pair of cocks!! lol18 hours agoLorraine Moore Oh I know!!!I backed Allan into a corner really..lol. Double standards..hate it!!! Dolphin should just be ignored. You can't argue with a fool ;-)18 hours agoCharmaine Leworthy Ive just responded to them, launched my website yesterday so been inundated with work and haven't had time, couldn't let them think they'd gotten the better of me :-P18 hours agoLorraine Moore Ha ha! well, let's just see what odious remarks you get from Dolphin. Allan, yet again, is trying to dig himself out of a pit… ;-)9 hours agoCharmaine Leworthy I can't wait, find it quite amusing now lol Allan is a egotistical, sanctimonious hypocrite. Whining on about his ex wife sitting on her arse, claiming benefits and not personally contributing to her child yet he does exactly the bloody same!! And using his money for retail therapy?? Making himself unemployed he would only be paying £5 a week max, he's completely deluded 9 hours agoLorraine Moore Precisely! glad you are enjoying it 🙂 he sends birthday & christmas cards…lmao..that'll be a help, then. Crikey, how many kids has he got? if it were a PWC with that many kids with that many different fathers he would have something to say about it, eh?Lorraine, clearly if a PWC had different children to different fathers, she clearly had different children to different fathers but the issue is did they leave or were told to go….As for backing into corners, describe how!!!!!!When did I say MY ex's were on benefits.???…( a comment I make in reference to those who do claim benefits and are actually prepared not to work) …….. also considering I am happy to work but unfortunately no longer capable of the same employment I am accustomed to.. issue of my being on benefits due to my medical condition, considering my history of employment, I'v paid enough taxes to recover according to my medical condition…I do not make myself unemployed… I am unemployed!!!!!!! As for £5 per week max… that would only go to one case the CSA have open… with illegally assessed fictitious arrears of cause!!!!! however! I have shared care which makes a nil assessment and therfore I am doing the best I can for my children…!!!!!!Lorraine, as for your answer to how many kids I'v got… I have 4.. apparently 5 but no proof!!!!!!!Allan is a egotistical, sanctimonious hypocrite…. Egotistical yes… sanctimonious… when needed… hypocrite… not in the slightest but argumentative, a deffo big, huge Massive YES!!!!!!!Looks like I got the best entertainment then…… hey!!!!!!
Charmaine, you commented you never made any abusive comments, the above post describes differently, care to explain?????
Lorraine it appears you back yourself into a corner!!!!!!I provide for my eldest child with shared care, financial purchase for his requirements as and when he requests, I send cards with vouchers for xmas and B/days, I'v had the privelage to pay taxes during my history of employment, clearly I have worked enough to be unwell and to reclaim such taxes for myself rather than for the support of those who prefer not to work and live of the taxes others have paid!!!!!
For me, I clearly state I dont choose to support the ex's, PWC's or whatever title they deserve… but I choose to provide for my children in any possible way that I can…. as for my illness, It prevents travel to see my two youngest to the East and one Southwest…. however! My eldest is only 18 miles away and we enjoy weekends and holidays together…. although I personally am unable to provide my child a holiday, I certainly provide whatever I can!!!! by choice not so much as request, if he requests .. I do what I can to meet that request, I am not here to pamper my ex's… but to provide for my children in any possible way I can!!!!I aint the one who is greedy, arrogant yes, selfish… sometimes…. Greedy.. not in the slightest!!!!!Anything else ya wanna try and corner me with… You do make me laugh Lorraine!!!!! Hysterically so!!!!!