Self employed ex dodges the CSA
My ex is a shareholder and a director in his family business. He, with the full support of his family, have persistantly refused to implement the attachment of earnings order, have blatantly lied about his income and have changed the way he is paid in order to reduce his financial responsibility to his child. The CSA have done absolutely nothing to counteract this action, causing myself and my children severe financial hardship.
They have ignored letter of complaint, not returned phone calls, refused to allow me to speak to any decision makers and not followed procedures pronlonging the situation. They are probably worse than the ever were before!!!
Just be implementing some simple ‘common sense’ the length of time and accuracy of assessments would be much more effective, common sense does not seem to be a requirement to work for the CSA!
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Right this is right up my street!
Life style departure hearing, give in your evidence they may say no hearing not enough evidence throw it back at them and they will grant it! this makes him infront of tribunal produce ALL his out goings, BUT it doesn’t get your money BUT is does prove his salary and gets an amount in place.
Criminal compliance unit, this can go either way but if the tribunal has stated your correct in your findings this can used as evidence.
Complaint to the CSA for mal administration and lack of enforcement
then take this to the independant case examiner be prepared for a huge wait though… See more
DO NOT GIVE UP!! I am 13 years into the process with a debt from a self employed person of £40k but what you have to understand is the CSA do not have legislation in place to make an absent pay maintenance, figure that one out!
Good Luck!
what access does he have or get
Thanks Lisa, I have made a complaint via my MP with regards to mal administration and lack of enforcement by the CSA Bolton office, they are a complete nightmare and it seems not even officially part of the CSA, merely a company subcontracted to them!
My case has now been passed to escalated complaints in Falkirk, I have one case handler and she is amazing and we finally seem to be making progress, albeit slowly! I have now provided them with accounts for my ex’s family company, Warmplan Ltd of Cardiff. Along information regarding his purchase of a second house and requests for planning permission for an extension, the CSA have accepted and acknowledged that these purchases and building works could not be executed on an income of £150 that he and his family claim he is earning.
They do have legislation in place to ensure payment, if you look through their charter on the internet it clearly states how and when they implement these powers. They just need to be constantly reminded about them. I always use the argument that they cannot use their powers to penalise one business/individual for non compliance and allow another to continue to avoid payment without there being some kind of backlash and assuring them that I will go public with my story to ensure the ‘little guy’ that has been hounded to the pound of financial ruin for a few pounds when ‘big guys’ are allowed to carry on non payment for years at a time with no consequences whatsoever.
Making assessments and gathering information is not rocket science. With the aid of the web I have managed to provide the CSA with annual accounts, which shows shareholding percentages, directorships and dividend payments made. Along with the exact date he purchased his second amount and the price he paid,. The CSA just choose not to make it easy for some ridiculous reason. Their mission statement is ‘non payment of maintenance causes a child real hardship’ yet they continue to allow it to happen.
I say enough pussy footing around, kids suffer enough emotionally when their parents split, at least allow them the security of knowing they won’t have to suffer further as a result of the absent parent BE IT THE MUM OR THE DAD not upholding their financial responsib ility.
Habitual non payers should not be given further opportunities to delay assessments, if they didn’t provide the information required the first time, common sense dictates that they aren’t going to provide it regardless of how many times its requested. And they all know the threats made of legal action or fines are completely empty. The CSA should be going straight to the Inland Revenue and Banks for income details, they have been given the power, about time they used it!!!
In reponse to your question Martin, my ex, Scott Leworthy, had unlimited access to our daughter until November 2008, although he chose not to utilise it, often leaving her with his mother while he went out socialising.
In November 2008 his behaviour became very erratic, abusive and caused me to have great concern for his state of mind. He was phoning me up to 100 times a day, demanding to know where I was, who I was with. Breaking into my house, damaging my property, approaching any males he felt I was getting close to warning them off and telling the most outrageous lies. He had threatened suicide and fled the country. His girlfriend told me that he was taking cocaine heavily and regularly. I contacted my solicitor and we agreed that unsupervised access was not safe at that time so offered the opportunity to assist to his mother Brenda Leworthy, she refused and also refused to have direct contact herself with her grandchild. Therefore no contact was possible until the drugs issue was resolved and we could be sure my childs safety was not an issue.
He returned from abroad after a few weeks completely denying the drug allegation made by his girlfriend Kelly Price, (who by now had reconciled with him and decided that she hadn’t really told me he’d been taking drugs) and took the case the the family courts, he had two drugs tests, both showed positive for cocaine despite his attempts to manipulate them (having his hair cut prior to the samples being taken etc). His response to the results were that they were ‘a mistake made by the testing laboratory’ obviously this wasn’t accepted by the courts.
On the final hearing, he made a statement to the courts that if he could not have unsupervised contact with his child then he, nor his family, wanted any contact at all. The courts ruled that because of his inability to admit to, or accept his drug problem, unsupervised access was out of the question but I was still prepared to continue to the basis of supervised access using a family member of HIS as the supervisor. He refused and walked out of court.
Since then his family have been given several opportunities (all provable) to have contact with my daughter and they have all refused yet continue to winge and gripe that I am the one stopping contact because I am a scorned women waiving some kind of vendetta. His mother is well aware of his drug issues and admits that I am right in having issues with him having unsupervised contact but maintains that she cannot ‘go against’ her son and feels that having contact with her grandaughter would imply this.
My daughter has not seen ANY of her paternal family for over a year now, that was THEIR choice. She found that very difficult to cope with but has now come to terms with it and is settled and happy.
So, in a nutshell, the answer to your question is he doesn’t see her beacuse he chose not. And his family doesn’t see her because it’s easier to pretend she doesn’t exist than accept what a deceitful, manipulative, lying, messed up cokehead her father is.
And if you were going the way of ‘if he doesn’t see her why should he pay’ the reason he should pay is beacause he played a part in bringing that child into this world, he doesn’t see her because of his own actions and decisions and the fact that he has no contact does not mean that the cost of providing for her is any less.
He wasn’t man enough to be there for her emotionally or physically, the very least he should do is be there financially to ensure she has some sort of quality of life.
She will ask about him when she’s older and she’ll be gutted he chose to his drugs and saving face over being her dad, and depriving her of a whole paternal family while he was at it, but at the very least I’d like to be able to tell her he made sure she was ok by paying his way.
swings and roundabouts,
I pay for everything for my kids, food, accomodation cothes, after school activites and these things don count, all CSA want is to pay her money.
she is not bothered about kids.
so I understand where you coming from but the CSA have never once thought about intrests of kids, the CSA said to me is pay what you entitled to and then do not pay football subs, registrations, swimmig lessons, activities, spending money or anything else.
great advice, but only kids suffer, then again they not bothered one little bit.
kevin
Fags & Beer!
How about lazy mothers? Work shy!
My kids fail to eat and clothe properly, yet ex has enough cigs and tinnies.
Kids over 7 so Certain benefits stop. No more cigs and tinnies. Instead trying to screw dad for cash instead of getting a job. I’ve offered to take kids, but if i do even more benefit money will cease.
Mother kicks 14 year old daughter out, now lives with me, Why? Because less benefit money for her.
Kids = pay cheques