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Fathers who killed themselves because of the CSA

30 April 2008 by Michael - CSAhell.com staff

This video is harrowing. It features a list of fathers who have committed suicide after being hounded by the child support agency. The deaths of these men are on the hands of the CSA and the government, and the children they have left behind must now live without their fathers in their lives.

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This terrible waste of life is continuing today, and will go on until the child support agency are held accountable for their actions.

1,782 thoughts on “Fathers who killed themselves because of the CSA”

  1. [..YouTube..] man i hear ya and feel for you too i am in a similar situation i fighted through courts for my chile and got nowhere haven’t seen her in 10 years or so and got a letter the other day asking for csa payments

  2. [..YouTube..] child support is a fucking joke !!
    a worthless fucking scam !!fuck child support !!
    worthless piece of shit agency !!
    ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY !! WAKE UP PEOPLE !!
    CORRUPT !! CORRUPT !! CORRUPT !!!
    NOT ABOUT THE KIDS !!REPEAL THE BRADLEY AMMENDMENT !!

  3. [..YouTube..] The Child Support Agency is a disgrace and should be closed down, together with the family court of Australia. These parasite organisations are totally unnecessary when other more economical and suitable methods have not even been tried.
    Too many parasites make a good living out of the disgrace of others.
    Labour won’t do anything about it because they are the ones who created the problem in the first place: Whitlam, the court. The abominable Keating the CSA – never to be forgiven.

  4. [..YouTube..] Sorry people, I thought it was Australia.
    Nevertheless in this country’CSA is a carbon copy of what you describe. The Australian agency also has blood in its hands, and plenty of it. If any of you came down to Australia for a better live, these days you would be persecuted to death the same way.
    Say no to injustice.

  5. [..YouTube..] 40% is incorrect, the maximum that the agency can take off the NRP is 25% of his/her annual income. Only being 25% if the non resident parent has 3 or more kids because 25% is the cap. its 15% for one child, 20% for for two kids and as said before 25% for 3 and above. If neither parent is on benefits they can cancel the case, if they are both on benefits they have to carry in because the state is paying for the children. Why should tax payers pay because some people cant keep there legs closed?

  6. [..YouTube..] hi badbobby 2008 you have the figures correct but you forget to mention that the csa dont take any cercumstances in to account imagen this you are with your partner for 3 years you have talked about kids and decided your not ready yet you stop using contraception yourself as your partner who you love and trust says she is on the pill then she tells

  7. [..YouTube..] you she is pregnent with twins (you havent asked for children but been conned in to it) then you and your partner split up because there is no trust in the relationship anymore.

  8. [..YouTube..] you earn £918 after tax per month the csa say you have to pay £191 a month the average rent in the uk is £500 per month council tax is £70 per month gas and electric is £100 per month if you are lucky you have tv licence £11 per month travel to work to earn you money is £128 per month you have water rates on top of that food for the month not included how does all this add up for somthing you were tricked in to? you still love your children even

  10. Badbobby2008 on November 15th, 2008 3:09 pm [..YouTube..] 40% is incorrect, the maximum that agency can take off the NRP is 25% of his/her annual income. Only being 25% if the non resident parent has 3 or more kids because 25% is the cap. its 15% for one child, 20% for for two kids and as said before 25% for 3 and above.
    _______________________________

    Correct for regular maintenance Badbobby2008 – But when arrears are included the maximum deduction is indeed 40% of income.

  12. [..YouTube..] You are talking crap. They can, and do, deduct 40% if they claim that ‘arrears’ are owed.

    As a taxpayer, I’m more pissed about paying for the chavs, layabouts and unemployed Islamic terrorists in this country than supporting people who have suffered a family breakup.

    The CSA is a corrupt, disgusting organization that harms everybody who deals with it. Check your facts.

  15. [..YouTube..] Baaaaaa sheep baaaaaa. The sky is green now go swear it to the world because I told you it’s so. 580k people laid off in the states last month. Nothing but a bunch of deadbeats that are worthless and don’t deserve to live! They can’t take care of their kids like they where able to before they got laid off but hey they should die right? Only thing obvious is that your stupid.

  20. So what is wrong with pooling the agression and hatred and instead of sitting back and watching other people doing the work, join an organisation and help them in the fight for change?!!!!
    As for the plebbs who write that if the dads are in arrears then they musn’t have paid in the first place, wake up!!! the CSA/CMEC deliberately drag their heels on cases and THEY make the arrears not the Non resident parent!!! We could all argue to put money aside if you have a rough idea of what you will be asked to pay but what about those wonderful staff members who just leave a case and then go back to it some 10 years later??!!!! It happens, the staff all type in false figures into the system and some have even deleted cases because it suits the million pound computer system better!!!!
    The men who do pay support are subsidising those that don’t, simple!! The CSA/CMEC is there for all the single mothers and women who want to drive the father into the ground,simple!! and this government encourage it! what beats me is someone who purports to want a better CSA/CMEC but then goes on to support ending child poverty?? err hello, the governments BIG campaign is the SAME one!! so be against the CSA/CMEC sysytem yet uphold ending poverty for children? to do that you have to agree with CSA/CMEC!! lmao absolutely priceless.
    Put all of your efforts into wanting to fight to bring about change, change that cannot be used as a weapon to beat the dad with and change that will benefit the children, not line the pockets of the mothers. Go and do something about making it too easy for girls to get pregnant then be on a money roller coaster ride until the children are 20,which is now the upper limit under CMEC, teach the children both male and female to do what our grandparents did which is quite simply, if you have children thay are your responsibility, not a cushy number for the maintenance gravy boat and a council house with everything paid for, thats the biggest drain on society not the disabled or the long term genuine, sick,nor the elderly, it’s the ones who have grown up with the attitude that it’s ok to push children out like a rabbit machine because the government say so!!!! and help tom pay for it, with the genuine tax payers money!
    Meeting with Kitty Ussher proved this, she was asked for figures on child poverty being caused by parents splitting up, she confessed she had none as the government always use lone parent statistics!!! Says it all really.
    There will be more deaths under CMEC, and it’s about time that the ministers and Lords ALL were bought to book for what has gone, is going, and will go on.
    Stand up and be counted and lets start to show the women of this world that men aren’t open wallets and are there just to be used when it suits them, we have to go back to basics and teach the next generation to think differently, what happened to respect for a fellow human being? it got lost in the governments stupid education sysytem once all the do gooders got involved , thats what.

  21. [..YouTube..] sickening my partners ex is well of and he is self employed and im a student and we have 2 kids one is disabled and recieve housing benefit, she and her new partner have 2 house take loads of hols and we are getting high demands that we cant meet and recieve letters saying they will take driving licence and freeze bank acount, she tricked him into having kids she should pay for them, he see’s them and would happily buy them clothes or shoe’s we really cannot afford this !

  22. sickening my partners ex is well of and he is self employed and im a student and we have 2 kids one is disabled and recieve housing benefit, she and her new partner have 2 house take loads of hols and we are getting high demands that we cant meet and recieve letters saying they will take driving licence and freeze bank acount, she tricked him into having kids she should pay for them, he see’s them and would happily buy them clothes or shoe’s we really cannot afford this !

  23. This new law they are using to beat us with are actually against our constitutional rights and the stupt HM the Queen gave it royal assent not realising that it contradicts the Human Rights Act and our civil rights, so CMEC is actually can be contested in court especially the in house Liability Order that can be made, that will not hold any water what so ever. Watch out in 2009 because there is to be an almighty revolution with this lot.

  24. [..YouTube..] This is a very very sad video.. Most of these guys killed themselves because they could not keep up with the extortionate demands made by the CSA.. Theres other that we falsly named by ex’s as Dads of children that were’nt thiers.. Its very sad that theres such ignorant people making nasty comments about such a sad subject.. Shame on you..

  26. [..YouTube..] spandex 5 i was paying for the car £245.00 amonth.£250.00 for the child minder. and having my daughter evrey other week end evry holiday summer,easter,half term. then was made redundant! rather that be supportive and understanding. she called in the good on csa your day will come when you get f*cked over,they always do.

  27. [..YouTube..] Fantastic, hard hitting, but also heartbreaking video. For those idiots who leave silly comments – you know nothing!! im getting hounded by the csa and its horrible, doesnt matter how much i pay its never enough for those blood sucking twats.

  28. [..YouTube..] as far as now goes the perent with care can cansol the csa but my ex wont she will only gain from £80 a month so the csa is just a weponim not saying we shuldnt pay aire way but i think the only way to do it if they wont come to a priot orangement is leave the uk so they have to sudenley there £1040 worse off a year so you coulld probabley work somethink out by that point

  29. [..YouTube..] I believe the only way to bring attention to this issue is to force the media either through mass protest nationwide at these enforcement units or overwelming the media with emails and blogs demanding media coverage of this situation….only at the view of fathers who just can’t afford these amounts not the true “deadbeat”……what r we waitin for…unite…UNITE!!!!! ITS THE ONLY WAY.

  30. [..YouTube..] Hey rosemisty, take a long walk off a short plank and if you need a hand let me know for I would happily push you over. Try telling a married man who has a child to his wife for whom he loves that he should have worn a condom. This mind you after his wife cheated on him. This is one battle lady where you are up against the majority. Your not in our shoes so sit down and shut up. Some of us are really good blokes. We didnt ask for our wives and the government to do this to us.

  31. [..YouTube..] Your not hounded by the CSA for money. Your not the one who is threatened to have their material posessions seized for the CSA’s revenue. We are. May I suggest Rosemisty1 that you butt out of this argument for you have no understanding on the matter what so ever. Do not waste our time here by posting your disgusting comments. This is not a topic for you.

  32. Guys, please stop and think here~~ whatever the circumstances surrounding these cases and many others like them, a government dept has no place being involved. These guys took their lives due to pressure from a government dept, its that simple.

    The only way to stop these things happening is by coming together and shouting with one voice. Guys we can all sit here, type into various blogs, websites etc, but it has no effect. We need one voice, we need to get our good old British spirit activated and shout TOGETHER.

    We have set up a petition on http://www.afairercsaforall.co.uk, go sign it, its a start. Join our forum, join in with idea’s what to do next, have input in our debate, become an area leader……………….. Worst thing you can do is NOTHING..

    We have over the 2 websites 1000 members+ , but guys we need more, we need more to fight and shout and debate…………….. You know why……. Cos change happens, we just got to make it, and with the right tools we can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  33. Just one question, not a criticism, how are you going to debate, become one voice and be heard when you state on your forum main page, that: you are a non activist organisation and that you have your pride, which is why you are non activists?
    How is doing a petition of however many signatures going to make the governement sit up and make changes? It doesn’t work, Gordon and Co. just shred the petitions and turn a blind eye!!!
    The only way to bring about change is to shout, expose, make the whole sham transparent and keep informing people of their rights and the CSA/CMEC’s wrongs!!!
    Rallies, protests, leaflets, being as visible as possible is the way forward, show the whole government up for what they are, liars and part of the militant wider net called Europe!!!

  34. How are we going to debate? ……….. Our forum is full of debate, good healthy debate 24 hours a day, of course our members speak with one voice. We have listened to PWC and NRP debated, compromised and put together a set of aims as a group…..

    Why be activists? where does it get you……….. written of as a group of nutters by media and government alike…………. You don’t have to be an activist to get your point across…. In fact your more likely to be listened to if you go about things properly, which is proving to be the case…

    A petition might not have any effect, no dispute there, but its a start and its doing more then posting on many blogs, websites…….. People can rant all day long, they need to rant together in one place.

    Exposing C-MEC/CSA wrongs………. Can you tell me any point in this? they already know how wrong the system is……..

    Telling people their rights……….. Fully agree, but all advice has to be valid and correct.. People coming to our website are given up to date, correct advice…. Not only be the admin team, but by CSA experts including legal experts and CSA staff

    Please……….. Rallies, protests with whom? You need to mobilize thousands mate………. Its not going to happen. Child support is an emotive subject, dads don’t want to be seen protesting about paying for their children, you got think of the children concerned. Can see it now ………… little Joe watching TV ” hey look there’s dad on telly protesting, cos he don’t want to pay for me” Not the way forward I’m afraid. Saying all that you at deadbeats go forward in the way you think is right for deadbeats……. Allow us to go forward as we see best for afairercsaforall, and every bodies happy

    Like Ive said before and I will say again you and we have different agenda’s, we are asking for change in different ways. We think the system is flawed for all parents including PWC and NRP, you fight only for the NRP, your prerogative… .

  35. LOL, wondered how long it would take – but Im genuinely pleased your obviously feeling better 🙂

    Some subjects are questionable from the outside looking in. However, its extremely doubtful what http://www.afairercsaforall.co.uk/ does, is any genuine concern of yours.

    Not criticising… maybe you could establish what the difference is between the FOI and DP Acts OR why your site states “The new laws passed on the 27th January 2009 by Purnell are as follows:Removal or cancelling of Driving Licenses and passports or the prevention of obtaining a passport” ? Not criticising – just wondering why…

    Just a thought… perhaps you should concern yourself with own site, before questioning others 😉 – All the best anyway xxxx

  36. If you feel you need the 2 said acts clarifying, i hardly feel you benefit your own forum, a rather bizarre observation. I am glad the website gives you scope to wonder, hold those thoughts. There is nothing wrong in freedom of speech and asking questions of others, they have the freedom to remain silent if they so wish
    I am not in the least concerned of how you ” genuinely” feel about my health or not, it is nobody elses concern apart from those closest to me, but at least devoting my time to a worthwhile fight is more productive and keeps me occupied.
    A presumptuous nature can be rather dangerous at times and no one should presume to know what another person is thinking or feeling.
    We are well aware that a close watch is kept on the web site and also that certain bodies scrutinise what is posted, we like to think we help those bodies in keeping them entertained if nothing else!!
    I would have thought that an answer would have been forthcoming but as usual, it is not, no matter, we were once accused of being ” bizarre people” lmao 🙂
    The more that people publicise what is going on with the government let alone the CSA/CMEC, the better, it all needs exposing and getting out into the public domain ( just to get back on track with the issue at hand )

  37. No need for me to hold any thoughts at all…

    Quote; If you feel you need the 2 said acts clarifying, i hardly feel you benefit your own forum, a rather bizarre observation.

    – on the contrary sb (tigereyes/tigs) . Admin and mods at afairercsaforall are well aware of the difference between the two Acts – as such, we never advise anybody to request ‘personal’ info under the FOI Act. The benefit of being able to distinguish between to the Acts, would better serve members of dbda.

    It would also be worth noting – That the new laws, your site claims were “passed on the 27th Jan 09 re Removal or cancelling of Driving Licenses and passports or the prevention of obtaining a passport” . Have NOT yet come into force!

    Your now a little wiser in your knowledge, and all the info is readily available on the Internet 😉

    Its rather bizarre that you have nothing better to do, than to have a pick at your oppositio. Maybe devoting a little of that spare time, to ensure correctness, would prove more beneficial.

  38. It would also be worth noting – That the new laws, your site claims were “passed on the 27th Jan 09 re Removal or cancelling of Driving Licenses and passports or the prevention of obtaining a passport” . Have NOT yet come into force!

    Oh really?? well we beg to differ,,, we have evidence that THESE SUPPOSED NOT IN FORCE YET LAWS have actually been threatened and actually imposed… so what say you on that???!!!!!!!!!!

    as such, we never advise anybody to request ‘personal’ info under the FOI Act. The benefit of being able to distinguish between to the Acts, would better serve members of dbda.
    We suggest that you read up on the 2 acts correctly,,,,,,,,,,, if you are advising people for a breakdown of account including arrears i.e money paid in and out, , you have to request it under the FOI, they are not at liberty to give you the info under the DPA !!!!!!!! strewth.
    We have never,nor shall we ever, class you or your forum/sister site as the ” OPPOSITION” lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we are an organisation that has helped people and our members plus those we have helped through telephone,e mail,and accompanying them to court, and shall continue to do so.
    May we say one final thing here???? seems that not all of our info is supposedly wrong seeing as a few weeks after we put a letter onto our website and picked it to pieces as concerns the law and it’s proper procedure of the law, i.e MARSTONS BAILIFFS, it suddenly appeared a similar letter, on your sister site!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    You have tried to ridicule us many times, it doesn’t concern us! needless to say we put stories up, telephone calls up, letters up, and it goes up as evidence to back up what we disover, uncover and find out about the corrupt system!!!
    As for the passports.license, prison issue as previously stated, we have hardened evidence in black and white that it is happening NOW!!!!!!
    MR HOSSACK @dwp CORRUPTION has seen the article that James Purnell did on the 25th January this year saying that it would be a last resort to fathers who hadn’t paid and didn’t pay, we took the evidence with us at our last meeting courtesy of a member of ours and he saw for himself that James Purnell had lied in the article and that all of the three threats were actually now happening, even to the point of doing a video exposing the article and Mr Purnell as a liar,which will be broadcast and a copy sent to the said minister so that he is aware of what his staff are doing, illegally and unlawfully!!!!!!!!!!!
    I don’t have to waste time ensuring our info is correct, we MAKE sure it is before we advertise it and explain it to people, but thanks for the advice anyway.

  39. The issue here should surely be about the ministers and staff at the agency having blood on their hands???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and they will have a lot more too before long, this agency has to be stopped and it has to be exposed for what it is.

  40. oooh dear…

    Quickly then, Ive other things to do!

    1) Re DP & FOI Acts –
    The Data Protection Act 1998 (DPA) is the sister act to the Freedom of Information Act.
    Whereas the FOIA allow you access to a vast range of information on public issues, the DPA gives you a right of access to personal data.

    2) **Quote; Oh really?? well we beg to differ,,, we have evidence that THESE SUPPOSED NOT IN FORCE YET LAWS have actually been threatened and actually imposed… so what say you on that???!!!!!!!!!!

    The Bill was in Parliament and debated at Second Reading on 27 January. The House of Commons voted for it to be sent to a Public Bill Committee that will scrutinise the Bill clause by clause – it has NOT yet been passed!

    In future, it would maybe better if you DONT start these debate type slates on afcsafa. ‘csahell’ is not here for this purpose.
    I’m sure, whatever you are trying to do at your end, is done at very best of your ability, and you should continue without worrying yourselves about what we’re doing !

    PS, on a lighter note – can I borrow your *yellow* pen, as I have an important letter to write 😉 PMSL

  41. I couldn’t care less whether these laws have been passed or not, we have evidence that they are being used within the CSA/CMEC now!! what part of that can’t you understand?? seems to me that you have the same inabilities as the agency staff.
    I am quite well aware of what both the DPA and the FOI ACT are about and what they are there for, you do what you do and we do what we do. BasicallyTracey, thousands of requests have gone in under the FOI and each one answered so it works, but asking the for the info under the DPA doesn’t,, so all in all go figure.
    May we suggest that you use your little yellow crayon from your Crayola box set?
    A s stated before we don’t and won’t worry about AFCSAFA, after all, you aren’t activists so what will you acheive? we will wait and see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    At least we keep you amused, rather like the Queen Victoria era pmsl !!!!!!!!!!

  42. Take away the non-resident parent’s driving licence or send them to prison

    If a non-resident parent has refused to pay the child maintenance they owe, we can apply to the courts for:

    * an order of disqualification — this takes the non-resident parent’s driving licence away from them or prevents them from getting a driving licence for up to two years, or
    * a warrant of commitment — this sends a non-resident parent to prison for up to six weeks.

    Even if the parent is disqualified from driving or sent to prison, they will still have to pay all of the money they owe.

    Between February 2007 and January 2008, 565 non-resident parents received immediate or suspended prison sentences. A further 25 non-resident parents received immediate or suspended driving licence disqualifications.
    Page top

    This was taken from the CSA’s own website!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  43. Oh up to the usual DON’T READ THE POSTS CORRECTLY SYNDROME WE SEE, no change there then. You state that what you do on afcsafa is no concern of ours, I see, so double standards are we to assume here, forgive me if I am mistaken but didn’t you send the Manager of DWP Corruption.Co.Uk an email informing him that we the DBDA had put on our web site about us being sister sites with DWP Corruption, what did that have to do with AFCSAFA may we ask?
    We keep informing you everything we do is fully researched, we do not tell people to do things we were not sure about ourselves, The Manager of DWP Corruption actually approached us and asked us if we would be sister sites with them so it was his idea not ours, but again what had that got to do with you at AFCSAFA?
    As far as the FOI and the DPA are concerned look at the acts very carefully, requesting personal information held by a public authority under the FOI does it not state

    “1 General right of access to information held by public authorities

    (1) Any person making a request for information to a public authority is entitled—

    (a) to be informed in writing by the public authority whether it holds information of the description specified in the request, and

    (b) if that is the case, to have that information communicated to him.

    That in itself if you are requesting a breakdown of your arrears which is held by the Public Authority (the CSA) then they have to supply you with that request, and it is infact quicker than using the DPA.

    As far as the yellow pen is concerned well there was a method in my madness there too, it was legally creating more work for the Agency plus there is nothing in either Act which stipulates what colour ink you have to write the request out does it?

    Writing the request in yellow ink prevents them from photocoying the letter, if they had any sense about them they should have sent a letter back to me requesting the request to be done in black or blue ink, however they did not do this and they had to use a lot of the 40 consecutive days to try and furnish me with my request and it created a lot of work and inconvenience, pay back time in other words. The fact that their lack of knowledge of the DPA in itself has then left the door open for me to do them for the breach of the DPA plus also Fraud and deception or misconduct in public office.

    It was not a critisicm it was merely a simple question of what do you hope to debate become one voice if you are not activists, but as you stated it is no concern of ours. Just remember though if that goes for us then it also goes for you

  44. There you go then – your second post, taken from the CSA’s own website confirms what I have said…

    ‘we can apply to the courts’

    This is because it is the existing law, and the new laws which you as Deadbeatdads Association are stating were passed on the 27 Jan 09 are NOT, as yet! – see how much you could learn, by looking 😉

    LOL, I’ll leave letters written in *yellow* ink, to yourselves.
    Your partner, the founder of dbda, obviously had his reasons for requesting his Data Protection File in this way. (confirmed in the video, of the telephone conversation you have on the internet) – infantile pranks, are bound to get your association taken most seriously…
    -besides, I have too much respect for the ALL the members on afairercsaforall to make such a mockery of the issues they have with the Agency, just to enable an opportunity to ‘stage’ a telephone conversation and post it on the internet.

  45. Oh dear DBDA you really should take the tme to read the small print, or was that written in yellow marker too PMSL…………..

    If your gonna advise people, advise them correctly…………..

    We have enough time taken correcting CSA errors without DBDA’s also.

    At afairercsaforall advce is correct

  46. Oh dear oh dear people in glass houses, you even admit in your own site sorry forum you have achieved nothing. There was a method in my madness sending my own request in yellow ink and it worked, we have not advised our members to request anything in yellow ink it was for my case only and they fell into the trap which has allowed me to prosecute the CSA case workers for misconduct in public office, but there you go you stick to signing your petition we will stick to the strong effective methods of exposing the lies and the scams which is proof to other members of the public what goes on within this corrupt agency.
    You go on about “Staging phone calls” and how they are infantile pranks, well have you not got some phone calls on your site doing exactly the same? We also see evidence of somebody doing your dirty work to advertise your site, have you no bottle to do something yourselves and show your face or is there another reason why you are too afraid to show your faces…..?
    We will continue the our winning the cases and showing the CSA case workers and other staff which we know is really getting up their noses but hey thats pay back time

  47. Very dull and predictable that you feel the need to respond, with further unfounded ‘slates’.

    Not admitted anything of the sort on the forum – but its flattering if your a member OR have been misinformed with 2nd hand info OR perhaps just a figment your imagination.
    -and no, no staged phone recordings by us.

    **Quote; We also see evidence of somebody doing your dirty work to advertise your site, have you no bottle to do something yourselves and show your face or is there another reason why you are too afraid to show your faces…..?

    If members/others wish to inform others of the site, they are more than welcome to do so. We’re there to help!
    – perhaps you should ask Sherri about hiding behind ‘alias names’ – she has at least 3 on here that are used.

    Personally, after the farce of previous posts. Many statements are made, and plenty of self gratifying pats on the backs are forthcoming, along with an abundant supply of deviating prattle.
    – So, I’ll take what your telling me with a pinch of salt – others can make their own minds up.

    I’m satisfied the points I made, have been clarified, so shall leave it now.
    However, on past performance, sure enough you will feel the need to have the final word – So be my guest…

  48. Mobey your so self absorbed, you cant figure when you and your association are made to look silly. As a friend I will tell you, that time is now, so time to stop before you do your outfit major damage…….

  49. Friend??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  50. Oh and were you aware …. I was taught in English lessons to put words before each explanation mark. My friend your English makes about as much sense as a CSA caseworkers. You really are doing little good for your credibility, and making yourself look silly.

    Why do you need so many user names on here…… are you hiding something?

    Everybody be aware deadbeatdad and co founder also post on this site as Mobey, SB, tigereyes, tigs, and other alias’s

    Micheal………… The admin on this website…. I am sooooooo sorry DBDA continues to use this (your website) as a battleground, they seem to think school kid snipes upset us on AFCSAFA. Now they are dragging you and your websites into their somewhat silly arguements, it’s not fair and i’m really sorry this is happening

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