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Jackie J,
From the income figures you have given your liability as per the CSA calculator is approx £33 pw. http://www.cmoptions.org/en/calculator/calculator.asp
If weekly income is over £100, but under £200 you will be paying a reduced rate of child support.
Having quickly calculated the figures you have given;
Your wage £6500.00
Tax Credits £3640.00
Child benefit £1055.00
CSA from NRP £3360.00
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Total £14555.00 pa
If you are a single occupant you should received a 25% reduction in council tax.
If you rent, you may be able to claim housing benefit.
Although you state your ex earns around £35k pa, if that figure is gross, he will net around £26k pa after tax & NI.
Reductions may be applied by the CSA if he has other children living in his household etc.
Do either of you have shared care with the children that live in the others household.
chall ~ afairercsaforall
Hi
My hubby has a 16 year old. 7 years ago he was told by CSA that the maintenence he should pay would be £0.He has continued paying ex privately every month without fail. My question is The child is staying on in 6th form but has got a part time job. Should the maintenence be reduced as she is now able to buy clothes and stuff herself.
thanks for reading
me again. Hubby got a call today from CSA saying pwc wants to be reassessed…and start all over again
All because he only gave her an EXTRA £50 for a hair do rather than the £90 ex wanted……
So have worked it out and she will be paid the same as now…next it will be he cant see her as this is what usually follows..she is one sad woman
Only 3 years to go have managed 13 years so it should fly by
dianne tonner, you are clearly a bitter woman. What happens when the pwc has plenty of income and the AP has nothing? this being because the pwc screwed ap for everything they could and more. Pwc is sitting in a big new house with holidays every 6/12 months, and the ap has been homeless with his new family. Is the ap meant to spend the rest of his days alone? The pwc is so sick and twisted that they have manipulated the great relationship kids had with ap and new partner, to the point ap no longer see’s kids because pwc would give the kids such a hard time for asking to go over. As a new wife of an ap i would expect that both parties income is accessed and taken into account, instead of being one sided and unfair! If it’s all about making sure kids have a good start and are provided for how can csa take from one set of kids to provide for another set who are already well provided for leaving the other kids going without???
Every situation is different so before being so judgemental why not think about that. some advice, life is short, don’t spend it being bitter and resentful.
OMG just got assessment through its nearly doubled all because of OUR childrens ctc and they wont give variation as he only drives 300 miles round trip to get his daughter every school holiday..this isnt classed as frequent enough…The daughter wage they dont care and in the holidays she is working extra..
I will be seeing my MP the more people that do is then they may think about making the changes.
there are two sides to every story,my friends struggle to survive,have ctc money taken for his son by first partner so i know this is hard but my grandaughter who is 17 and her father pays regular CSA for her,half what CSA wanted to take and this i have no problem with but his new wife who has three children by two previouse partners,who pay nothing for their children,yet complains about the CSA paid to my grandaughter,saying she should be greatful and going on about it all the time ,when he was buying things for her children,she said were not buying you anything as your dad pays money for you,this got to the extent my grandaughter now has no contact with her father as she cant deal with it any more.
as an afterthought for those whose CTC is taken for the child or children of previouse relationships
,it says if you have a change of circumstances to contact the Tax credits
,if the CSA are taking your CTC then it is a change of circumstances as obviousely your income has gone down,so why dont all those who this is happening contact the CTC surely as if money is taken then your income is reduced so need recalculateing,worth a try.
There are two sides and here’s mine! Without wanting to stir and argument up, I have 4 children, 2 by my first husband and 2 by my second who left in january leaving me with over £16,000 of debt, My first husband used to pay £50 per week for my 2 eldest children then a week before xmas said he was not paying it anymore and wasnt buying them anything for xmas (they went to see him on xmas day and had to watch his other children open 3ds’s etc and they got nothing) in jan my second husband left and I had to financially support all four children myself, I called csa about my first husband but he jumps from agency to agency so they cant keep up with him and I decided to give my second husband chance to see if he would financially help but that hasn’t worked out either so will have to go down the csa route with him too, although not holding my breath as he is self employed and does not declare all earnings and as far as I know his new partner does not work, I struggle weekly to pay all the bills, debts and clothe and feed the kids, it costs over £20 a week just to get the kids to school on the bus and they all now want school dinners and I have to say no, I do not slag their fathers off to them as that would not be right but it would be nice if they could help out financially as they were keen to make the children but not so keen support them.
I am really confused about tax credits. If I were to let my BF move into my property and I worked 21hrs a week about £240 a week, and him 16hrs a week on minimum wage so £98 a week, would any tax credits that we claimed jointly for us as a family and our baby be used in assessment to pay for his other child?
He was on csa1 and recently moved to csa2 ,he was told he had to phase the payment over 5 years which was only reducing the amount by £30 a week from £570 a month. He was then made redundant and a new assessment hasnt been made as he is currently on jsa. Would they still apply this phasing and does that mean they work out the amount using csa1 for the next 5 years? It seems they do what they like, I am not willing to have my wages pay another woman’s lifestyle when she gets her own benefits left right and centre. Would love a response from Chall!
Its all so raw just coming up to a month since she walked with the kids two young boys. I do not know where my kids are living. I have filed for a court hearing, really stressful stuff, revised council tax, benefits claims cancelled, basically everything financially totally thrown right back at me to sort out from scratch. and yes it arrived this week the threatening CSA form… I have just been going through the website calculator http://www.cmoptions.org/en/calculator/calculator.asp and I am it appears basically left with nothing even if the court can agree to a shared residency order and I have them half the time staying over. You have tp really love your kids alot, I mean alot as when you were a family you struggle through together giving everything you can, supporting each other through the good and bad months. I actually cashed in my life savings and gave her half only last month as I knew things were not good and stupidly thought the money issue was causing a problem and to give ourselves a break from the banks.
Now – its she gets everything and she is going to watch me crumble maybe even loosing the house that I provided for us all for 7 years. she has never had to work and never paid a bill. If I calculate this correctly i will be paying for the next 12 years a total of approx 30K while trying to keep a good relationship with the boys as I push for shared residency and she does not give anything back. I notice someone mentioned sperm doner above and you begin to feel thats all you ever were – the body clock started ticking and I caught her eye. ITS THE CHILDREN WHO SUFFER and the man who mentioned suicide I really feel for you as I beleive depression is brought about circumstances living in the stupid country with mad governement fundrainsing schemes – leave the dads alone and let them do what they do best and provide wth realistic measures and give them a chance to prove they actually make better parents – no hormone issues sorry girls but at 45 you start to loose control and hit out even at the person that has fed and clothed you as well as the children.
The problem I find on this forum is NOT MANY REPLIES.
If the nrp and the nrpp are unemployed and have kids (6 from previous relationships) between them, can the pwc/csa take the ctc as net income?
Been forced to sepperate but kids/wife/myself are desperate to be together.
(lets hope the new reformed cmec will sort all this shizzle out)
I agree with Paul (sep 10th) am desperate for a reply off someone who knows what they are talking about. I am aware after research that they would use child tax credit but not working tax as I am the higher earner. However , my question alongside the credits question was about whether a csa1 case moved over to csa2 would still be calculated under csa1 rules….i.e would they use my wages to give HER more money if my BF is only on min wage , 16hrs a week £98 a week. If the phasing applied to the casefor the next 5 years and he has lost his job….he is now on jsa…….a new calculation will have to be made when he starts the 16hrs a week job he has been waiting to start. I refuse to let him move in the house I bought alone 10 years ago if this is the case !
Quote Bonnie; ‘whether a csa1 case moved over to csa2 would still be calculated under csa1 rules…’
At present, if a relevant person in an ‘old rules’ assessment is the relevant person in a new calculation, the old maintenance assessment would covert to ‘new rules’ (phasing may apply).
chall
Thanks Chall….I read that someone had assessments under the old rules when her case moved over to csa2 maybe she meant phasing. How does the phasing work if a new assessment has to be made as the NRP lost their job and started a new job on a lot less? Does it mean they use old rules to see what would have to be paid in the new job , then use csa2 rules to work out the same, then meet somewhere in the middle? This phasing isnt clear if your circumstances change and it says phasing lasts for 5 years. So would the NRPP wages be requested then if new rules apply?
Sorry this is no longer about tax credits!
Your welcome Bonny.
The link below may assist you, it will take you the CSA leaflet ‘My case is moving to the child maintenance scheme introduced in 2003 – what will change?’
http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/@benefits/documents/digitalasset/dg_198855.pdf
chall ~ afairercsaforall
Quote PAUL on September 10th, 2012 2:33 pm
‘can the pwc/csa take the ctc as net income?’
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The 3rd post from the top gives the answer…
CHILD TAX CREDITS;
Are deemed the income of the NRP.
chall ~ afairercsaforall
Not if unemployed surely? I was on the understanding that if nrp or nrpp was on benefit that flat rate applied…afterall nrpp is entitled to ctc without Me,Thats why 2nd family has been broken up.
CHILD TAX CREDITS;
Are deemed the income of the NRP. This was the subject.
(lets hope the new reformed cmec will sort all this shizzle out)
I have just got off the phone to the csa, I get NO financial help off my ex and I asked if they will take his tax credits into account and even take payments from his tax credits….. the answer is NO they can’t so I have no chance of getting anything! He wants to now start seeing the girls once a week but does not want to provide anything for them!!
H…are you trying to access working tax credits because I believe that is possible?
Unless they are NRPP.
If it is CTC then that is interesting news on my situation.
Afterall who would take CTC to BOOST CTC….I am sure you can opt out?
H …..I believe that you can get something …even the flat rate if he is on jsa or his wage is under £100 you will get a fiver a week. You can get something off his WTC or his CTC if he is living with someone who has children or they have a child. I dont agree with this as people get their own CTC but that is apparently the law. Read Chall’s comments above about how WTC is used.
Paul….I doubt anyone using the csa would opt out of getting payments. A lot of PWC would delight in knowing that they are getting a cut of the NRPP child tax credits. H (this is not directed at you , I understand some people use CSA as they cannot get anything in a private agreement). Its when people are spiteful and will not come to a private agreement that gets me.
Chall ….thanks for your help ….I started a new thread about how phasing works and am pretty much none the wiser apart from you said it MAY apply. I assume in a drastic change of circumstances that they cant apply it. I also assume they cant use NRPP wages if the case moved over. However assuming anything with the CSA is not a wise move as they make it up as they go along. H’s comments prove this.
Can someone help me. I recieved a call from the CSA yesterday and gave them all the imformation they required. My ex has our kids as when I walked out they were in their teens and had their owns lifes going on and did not want to disrupt that. He made my life hell but that is another story. My son works and is 19 next year and my daughter turns 16 next year. I earn just over 8200 per year and he earns over 90,000 and his annual bonus is 4 times more thatn what I earn in a year. I have been making payments to him but not enough apparently . Does the CSA take into account his wages when working out payments. Dont get me wrong I want to and am still making payments to him but as with everyone else I still want to be able to survive. Confused and at this moment a bit bitter.x
Myself and my partner are due a baby in a few weeks time. I have 2 children to a previous partner who live with me, my partner has 2 children to an ex partner who live with his ex. He pays her £240 a month, and, when I have had this child I will be putting in a claim for CSA also. I refuse to let him move in officially with me, as this baby will go in to childcare and we would receive WTC together; and I refuse for WTC in my household to go to his ex – who I might add claims single parent Income support, so doesn’t work. and then lives with her partner and his children – he doesn’t work either, and they have more money to live on each month than we do. I go to work to pay my mortgage, put a roof over my children’s heads, and refuse point blank to have them suffer if money is taken out our household… I don’t see how a family who are means tested and it is decided they need extra money, should then have this taken away and given to another household who are agin means tested and receive money to make sure they are not under the poverty line, as well as extra money on top – the second family are left with less – just plain wrong!!!
my 16 year old moved in with her boyfrrind and his mum csa are taking money from me and his mum for the boyfreind mum who we have never met we didnt want our daughter to leave left us with nothing
I really feel sorry for many of the above families trying to move forward. My issue and question is simple. Does anyone know if the CSA would take into account how much it costs me per week to get to work to earn the money that the CSA see as income. I do have a good job but I commute everyday 5 days per week 50 weeks per year. This is approximately £400 per month in travel costs to earn 2K. I have two gorgeous sons who have been taken away by their non working benefited now up to the hilt mother who has made a claim. Any help on CSA reductions to be taken into account most appreciated.
I think tht if the CSA expect an absent parent to pay towards the keep of their kids then they should reduce the pwc’s child tax credit etc with the money being given by the absent parent. Instead they dont consider the income already in the house of the pwc, be it tht they have another partner working f/t, pwc’s earnings and claiming ctc , wtc etc.
Buth they consider the absent parents whole household income regardless of whos it is…seems a bit unbalanced to me..I defo have no probs in absent parents paying for their kids , but not agreeing tht the pwc can keep her whole income and also tht of the absent parents family income as well….This shld be considered..
@ Amycherub – that has been my argument from day one!!! I too have absolutely no prolem with the NRP paying for his/her child but I do have a problem with the fact that the criteria set is completely unfair and bias towards the PWC.
Both income and expenditure of both homes (of NRP and PWC) should be considered when the assessment is made. My partners ex works part time, claims wtc, ctc, cb and child maintenance…. in total she has approximately £500 more than my partner does each month!!
His ex denies that my partner pays towards the kids everyday living expenses and the kids are constantly caught in the middle….. my partner struggles to pay for the luxuries for the kids (and I happily help out) but it would be better if the kids knew that both parents contributed to the clothes, food, etc that they are given on a daily basis….
A lot of PWC are genuinely struggling to make ends meet but the ones the CSA support are the greedy PWCs who want MORE money because they want to hurt their ex and/or are not happy with all that they have been given by the NRP….
The whole situation with the CSA frustrates the life out of me!!! lol :-/
every body out there who is being screwed by exs and csa go on write too them website your local mp tell them too get off their backsides and get it sorted enough is enough half the families who are caught up in this csa garbage should contact their mps until something is done try it !
I offer the ex what I know I can afford £300 every month, this has been refused and is determined to go through the CSA hiding behind she knows she will get the money, but actually it is because their calculation would give her more in return. The CSA have not yet done a calculation as I have tried to be amicable for the sake of the children and would prefer a family arrangement which all forums and even CSA documentation suggest this is less acrimonious and lends itself to a better relationship after separation between mother father and children. The CSA can not take money without a calculation. My job only started last month and I still have not been paid. and when I do I expect it will be higher than it ever will be due to all tax allowences not being used up this year havng moved from ESA back to workt. CSA want this payslip as evidence- are they just stupid, In short the ex wont take money I have offered, the CSA can not take anything until a calculation is done, a calculation can not be done until I have evidence of pay – during all this time I am seen as bad man not paying for his kids. Its ridiculous…. I suspect I will now be on the run from the CSA due to the ex not accepting a very reasonable £300 payment – if it were 50 50 they the kids would cost 600 a month – this has never been the case else we would have never have survived for the past 10 years. .. The bitch has the knives out … why are women so angry and bitter about this – its simple.. kids cost x amount – it should be a 50 50 split simplesssss.
Years ago i had a stupid drunken one night stand,obviously it was my fault & i should have been careful etc etc However after years of not even knowing the woman was even pregnant,she decided to claim CSA!!!! incredibly i only noticed after looking at my pay that she was getting a % of my wage…..later i received letters informing me how much i owed for the non-payments from earlier!!!! obviously i rang the CSA in absolute outrage at this, only to be greeted by a bloody woman who decided to give me a MORAL lecture! well excuse me,the woman clearly knew she was bloody up the duff & made no attempt to tell me or my friends until she realised that actually she was entitled to 22% of my wage on top of her benefits! i have 2 children with my current partner & if the worse ever happened i’d be more than willing to pay for them for obvious reasons but what really irks me is the % the ‘other’ child is deemed to warrant! i have only ever seen the other child a few times but for obvious reasons we have no bond & she later decided she didn’t wish to see me (the mother never wanted me to see her) i respect the childs decision but the mother still feels the need to claim CSA!! after numerous talks with the CSA they still play the moral card with me & still insist i should pay the full percentage! i obviously feel well & truly robbed & absolutely helpless,im now in a position where working for a living is pointless because actuall i’d be financially better off not doing so.
i would like to say i came out of a relationship with a violent man, then he steals my children, puts a claim in to csa for a cut of my wages WHAT A REWARD!!!!!!
then im told that if i increase my hour BASICALLY KILL MYSELF WORKING i will have to pay more what gives them the right to put people homeless because they cant afford to live. there should be a set amount and the same for every child. not based on earnings people need to make a stand and cause demonstration because of this so we can move on in our lives when our previous relationship was making us unhappy COME ON LETS DO SOMETHINK ABOUT THIS
and change the law. before people commit suicide because of how csa treat us.
my ex had 4 children when i got with her which i took on as my own. We then had another child and within 6 weeks she met someone else and and saw him for 3 montsh behind my back. She cheated on me multiple times with multiple people over the 6 years i was with her. Now shes remarried and im on minimum wage. My basic wage is eaten up with my bils (rent, water, electricity, tax, phone/internet(which i need for my job) food and my sons school dinners(as she cant be trusted to pay his school dinners and send him to school after keeping him off for 14 months.) now even though i pay his school dinners … csa say i have to pay her 120 a month. This comes out of my wtc as my wage is non existant after paying my bills. what is the point in the government subsidising my wage for them to demand i give it her.
I love my child with all my heart and since splitting up ive had my ex making it as difficult as possible for me to see him. She has moved house and remarried and tried freezing me out so he could take on my child as his own. I wont allow that to happen but They call the welfare of my child into disrepute because i wish to keep my money so i can spend it on my child myself. why do they make me give it her for her to spend it on herself. It is counter productive to the welfare of my child to take away money from me that i spent on my child when she needs to pay back a holiday to her friend that she borrowed. I am sick of the heart ache. i am sick of the torment. i am sick of the sleepless nights and im sick of the constant threat she puts the relationship between me and my son into.
Why does suicide seem the only answer?
It takes two to make a baby? So the PWC should do all the raising without NRP’s help ? Can’t afford to pay your way then don’t go on a make more babies!!
And all this crap about the PWC ect bugs the shit out of me! For some people CSA is a last resort…My childs NRP refuses to see him and has never payed his way! If NRP had been right with me from the start then this would never have happened!
CSA paid by a NRP should be offset any ANY and ALL benefits a PWC receives.
PWC’s should be required and hounded into looking for work, they CREATED THE CHILD/CHILDREN too!!! Only when they don’t claim benefits should they be allowed to keep any Child Maintainence and the amount should be fixed!
We live in a SICK country that encourages people to have children with no financial responsibility for them!
stop whining!! they are his children he should be paying foir them anyway not having to be made to by csa!! shame on him
I have read through almost all of the above and am shocked that it looks as though even though we presently live on the bread line and can barely manage financially we will have to give part of my children’s tax credits to his ex. We have no problem with paying so much of my partner’s wages over it is his responsibility however, it is NOT mine or my children’s obligation to take care of his other child! If this is the case and they do this then why is the assessment for liability not for all of the NRP’s children together then divided equally between all of his children whether they live with the NRP or not.
i.e. my partner has 3 children if his liability is £60 per week why is this not spilt between his current partner and ex-partner in equal shares per child? If we were to separate this would be the case.
Where is the government’s common sense treat all fairly and stop penalising 2nd family children.
My ‘father’ walked out on my mum for her cousin when I was 2 and my brother was 1 – we haven’t seen him since.. She has struggled and struggled for years as a single parent and let me tell you; she never ever received maintenance. Instead she worked every hour she could doing all sorts of jobs, paying our neighbours what she could to babysit after school (neighbours were like family back then) I am now 24. My mum now OWNS her house through her famous penny-pinching ways after years and years of saving by herself and I AM PROUD OF HER. I dont remember my mum happy when we was younger, she worked so much and im not exaggerating when i say she struggled, but i remember her as a STRONG woman who I grew up aspiring to be like. Should me and my husband ever split up, and he should never want to see our kids, I wouldn’t even want his money. Mums (and single dads) in fact, not just the singles, ALWAYS find a way. STAY STRONG for your family and take respite that not all women are money grabbing, life ruining bitches, and not all dads are deadbeat, responsibility dodging tosspots!
My thoughts are with you all.
I am a father and pay 15% of my wage for my 8 year old daughter who lives with her mother. We are now divorced and I ahve been told I can claim Tax Credit. Does anyone know if single fathers like me are entitled to anything back? please help
I am a father and pay 15% of my wage for my 8 year old daughter who lives with her mother. We are now divorced and I have been told I can claim Tax Credit. Does anyone know if single fathers like me are entitled to anything back? please help
I have called csa as my ex does not pay for his daughter in anyway, he is not working or claiming any jsa etc as he doent want to contribute to his daughter, his partner however is working and recieving wtc ahe has two children one is my ex partners and the other is from a previous relationship, csa told me they cannot take anything from his partner if she is the main person on the claim form( even if my ex partners names are on the papers to), from reading all the above it seems as tho csa can infact take money from his partner, has anyone had this problem
well well well…. gotta love the csa….. i had a similar horror story a couple of years ago… my ex partner whom i have a child with took me to the csa and they stung me for 135 a month, this money was to go up her nose… i asked if there was another way be it food/clothes etc etc. to hit a blank wall and a ‘its up to her how she spends the money’, anyway, it gets better, they wouldnt take into account the furniture i was still paying off at 60 a month as it was in my dads name, yet she kept them (ive since got them back). To cut a long story short, social services eventually saw the light and got involved and thankfully got my son out of the house where there was a party non stop with approx 30 people in a 2 bed flat all the time and put him in my care…. phoned the csa to inform them that i will be stopping the payments and they told me that i couldnt and they might give the money back upon appeal… to which my reply was probably unfavourable to the person on the phone and i informed them that i will be cancelling my direct debit and if they wanted to take me to court, im pretty sure a judge will see my side seeing as i had all the relevant paperwork with childrens services that my son was no longer in her care and was the subject to abuse…. i then 4 months later, had a phone call informing me that they actually owed me 5 pounds which nearly 2 years later, ive still not seen……… thing is now, do i go to the csa about her as she hasnt paid a penny in 2 years or not, is it worth it for a fiver a week as she is allegedly unable to work…… yet she has a new fella who is allegedly loaded……..
Me and my ex divorced 7 yrs ago until last year our son lived with me and we agreed to not claim CSA but would help out with trips for school and clothing etc. the agreement worked well. Last year my son moved to his dads because the college was better. Suddenly now I’ve had a claim for CSA made against me and there is nothing I can do.
I’m a single parent with 2 more children to support but they are taking my ctc and wtc and wages and using that to assess what I pay. They told me yesterday on the phone that no adjustment will be made for my childcare, which is a big chunk of my tax credits. My ex won’t even answer a call to me right now, in the hope we could work it out. There is no way I can survive with what they want me to pay. But what’s worse is that he earns more than double what I earn. I’m so stressed out, just don’t know what to do
my husband lost his job and becasue i work 24 hours a week and hes not got enough stamps in he cannot get jobseekers, i have a 16 year old daughter from my previous marriage that i still get child tax for as she is at college, csa have said i have to pay £5 a week from my daughter child tax to pay for my husbands child plus something off his arrears too, we hardly have enough money to live on yet they are asking my child to pay for his child can they do this !!!!!!
hi, my partner lived with his ex for around 5 years, the whole time he paid money towards gas/electric/food.. they also had 4 children he paid towards clothes food days out general living fee’s & was a living parent along with his ex… when they separated he received a copy of a dna for their 4 year old to say she was not his after him bringing up this child believing she was his and also paying for her like the others. she also is very unreasonable about contact and generally makes his life a pain with nonscence texts and abuse towards him and myself. she claims single parent benefits and with 4 children that’s a hell of a lot! the csa are involved but say they do not care for how long he provided for a child that wasn’t his and also now want money off him when shes claiming as if he wasn’t in the kids lives when he is and altho he is on jsa he has offered her more than the csa in a parental agreement to keep csa out of it as the claim some of what he pays when he is earning and in work! why is it right that she is able to claim lots of free tax payers money and then claim 25% of his wages and keep the lot??? especially after happily accepting money for 4 years for the child who isn’t his! I am currently expecting a child myself with him, I plan on going back to work after my maternity ends and find it very hard to understand why women feel the need to be greedy! it gives us all a bad name!!
Yes unfortunately the robbing B*****as can take all of your working tax and child tax into account. My husband just had an increase in the amount he has to pay because we had a baby 11 weeks ago so there taking money off my 2childrens tax credits to pay for his son to his ex. Hardly fair she gets tax credit for her son and then some of my childrens tax credits. CSA system is all wrong and puts 2nd families in poverty. Something needs to be done and soon
Your all dam sick…u should pay your for your own child. Who do you want to pay. .me?? Disgrace
SUICIDE IS THE ONLY OPTION..we are all f*8ked
My ex walked out when I was 6 months pregnant with our first planned child. So he didn’t have to pay for our sons baby things. When my son was born I passed his details on to the CSA he wouldn’t comply so they started taking it from his wages he then walked out of his job and vanished for 6 months and built up over a 1000 in back pay, he then turned up on benefits in January and has to pay £5 a week his been on for almost a year. We are all convinced he’s doing cash in hand work, I spoke to the CSA and asked them to look into this and they were not very helpful. According to the law he’s obeying by paying £5 a week its a joke! Your telling me somone with all that experince can’t find a job? And they let them get away with it so easily
sam, I have no problem with my husband paying towards his child from a previous relationship, with his earned income. I do however have a problem with my children’s child tax credits being taken to go towards his child who does not live with us – his ex gets her own child tax credits and should not be entitled to 15% of mine. the child tax credits are NOT my husbands income, nor anything to do with my husband – or his past!
I reckon everyone should stop moaning about being held accountable for children they choose to have with their partners. If you don’t wish to pay a high proportion of the £222,000 per child it costs to raise them to the age of 18, then don’t choose to have them. If you don’t wish to accept that your new partner has a responsibility to children from previous relationships, then don’t get involved with him/her and don’t have more children with him/her. Yes the CSA system is pretty rubbish and will be worse when we’re all being charged for the service, but more often than not absent parents are rubbish too. The ones that truly suffer are the children involved.
There will be hundreds of you seething after you’ve read this, but I am talking from experience aswell. I am the child of an absent father and now the lone parent of two children whose non-resident other parent and partner (no further children yet) whinge in much the same way as most on here (despite their joint income of nearly six times my own). It’s all very simple, either don’t have more children or don’t co-habit when you do.
Wouldn’t it be awful if we all had nothing to moan about 🙂
To the above poster, there are children involved on both sides, does it mean that the PWC children become more important?? Nope didnt think so, so doesnt give you the right to come here and tell people not to moan, why not do yourself a big favour and look at the bigger picture