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Despite my case being closed three years ago, I’m still owed a lot of money

19 March 2013 by k b

My case was closed just under 3 years ago but Im still owed a lot of money for my children.

There were court papers in the CSA name against my ex for this. I want to be able to change the name into mine so I can take him to court – he has the money and always did, which they know, but he has managed to lie his way through everything. He put me in debt to support my children – no I dont smoke or drink or buy clothes, etc., I work and always have.

Any help would be appreciated, only genuine people please thanks

117 thoughts on “Despite my case being closed three years ago, I’m still owed a lot of money”

  1. The CSA have a liability order against him, he then obviously owes you nothing, no you cant change it into your name because it was done years ago, no offense but you claim to know your ex has money??? Exactly how are you going to prove this, when you became his ex just because you have kids to him doesn’t mean you have thing about him, have you ever thought about talking to your ex and asking him why this hasn’t been paid?? Maybe his circumstances have changed, but again you cant know this because your not part of his life,

  2. Yes he does the criminal compliance unit sent me bank statements to show it!
    My case was closed due to the ages of my children but never once did he either pay on time, pay what he should, he lied, he gave false information, you name it, he did it.
    Obviously you dont know my ex and the reason why I left him! So no talking to him will not and would not work, I can assure you of that.
    His circumstances havent changed.
    I will do what I have to to get justice.

  3. Karen I waited over 10 years for any money for my lass, I don’t dwell on it anymore life is to short, my husband had his wage taken every month and his ex wife genuinely lied to get more, my hubby is wonderful dad to his kids but by not seeing them his ex got more, never did he miss a payment, never did he stop access, the CSA are biased towards the woman and my kids had to go without to give to her, This is the reason the CSA need to be stopped from ruining anymore lives, the ex is allowed to move on afterwards its his life, I don’t agree with the CSA not taking all circumstances into account and a fair amount taken that’s right for both, not just it we will take it anyway doesn’t matter if the other kids starve that’s not right and you as a mum should see that

  4. Did the criminal compliance unit know its against the law and against data protection what they have sent you, They are his personal bank statements, yes they are entitled to see them unfortunately your not, I would be reporting this if I was your ex, the CSA again have taken it upon themselves to break the law of privacy,

  5. I actually helped the CSA find the information they needed.
    Sorry but he didnt pay for his children (I did and it takes 2 to have a child/ren and 2 should support them) he went on to other 2 children by dif mothers – who dont work, one already had a child by someone else and made it clear she wasnt going to go to work. Why should I pay out of my income tax the likes of that when Im supporting my children, so I will not be leaving it.

  6. Im not saying leave it, you carry on, but your ex can go to great lengths to have all the money wiped because he has had his privacy infringed and his data that should have been seen by you sent to you, that’s against the law, that’s the reason the CSA wont tell either party details about each other, its against the law, To be fair if I knew this had happened regardless of whether I owed it or not I would refuse to sort things on principal, yes he has avoided the CSA and your children have lost out which is wrong and happens to much, doesn’t excuse his life being invaded and his documents that are confidential sent to you,

  7. Karen, did you not have the joy of your children? Why are you still hell bent on chasing this man, you sound very vengeful. I too have children to a man who went on had more children with various women, but honestly really can’t be bothered to dwell on it, and I have received nothing from him….all I honestly would have liked is birthday cards for the kids and for them to have a relationship with their dad…money to me is irrelevant, sorry but it is, i had all the help with what government give to help single parents, on top of my wages. I was more skint being an nrpw because as a couple we got no help. I also chose to have children with him, I worked hard to support them on my own and survived without the need for his money….your children are they now adults?

    Also, how are you managing to get a hold of your ex’s personal data? He has every right to have you held for breaching his data protection, whether its for a course or not.

  8. Yep Im going to try and get the money owed, I would have liked the same too, but you dont know my circumstances and what I went through cos of him and whether you like it or not its my decision and thats what I intend to do, just like you have made your own decisions.

  9. Well I asked for genuine responses and should have guessed what I would get. So wont bother as obviously you can spent all day on this whilst Im working and paying tax!

  10. At karen, and you don’t know mine either….know one thing, im not bitter or wasting my time chasing an ex because I made the choice to have children with him, and it didnt work out. The more you keep on, like most people will dig their heels in more and keep running to avoid at any cost…sad but true. How do you know that you didn’t help destroy his other relationships? I know too well the stress csa cause second families, as do other nrpp’s, just becsuse they fell in a love with someone who had children, why should they and their children suffer? We know csa cannot suit every situation, because if they did, there wouldn’t be a site like this. Children are not there to secure a cash sum! I’ve read your past posts, didn’t you receive a nice payment from the csa? How long are you going to keep on whilst other pwcs cases get stuck because they are dealing with you…yes my tax gets wasted too because your children are now adults.

  11. @ Karen
    Isnt that why you frequent a certain facebook page telling all what you have been through and how you want justice, same reason the troll alice frequents the same group, youtube also has videos of yourself some of them uploaded on here so it doesn’t take a genius to work out whats what, Some women get caught up in the bitterness and fight against csa and there ex they don’t know how to let go and move on, the way you say it knowing your kids are grown up now is that your ex isn’t allowed a life anymore, sorry if that’s not the case its the way you come across to people, maybe your ex is a complete git for not paying for your kids but seriously who in the right mind wants to have anything to do with ca knowing how many families have ben torn apart, how many men have commited suicide because of them, maladministration cases coming out of there ears, and still you pursue them, I give up I really do

  12. and thats why lisa you once were annoyed with nrp for not paying and then you meet someone who is a nrp and you ‘swop sides’ also you have a foul mouth with calling people names like you did me and others who didnt deserve that and you try to justify everything you do, not I havent bothered reading your post as I have better things to do with my time and I dont do two facedness neither. As for Alice and who you have said about her, you are a total disgrace, someone who is trying to other helps and has helped others and you can do nothing but try to put her down other it. If you have ever cared to read my posts in the past, you will see I have been fair about PWC and NRP – its you who have not! You can try and play and nice person on here but many know the true. I am proud to know I have helped many – who I dont know – who have contacted me for advice. I have never asked for anything but what my children should have had. As for suicides, maybe you need to look at both sides of the coin, what it has done to everyone both pwc and nrp who do not support their children and not just financially. I know what I have achieved probably a lot more than you, I just feel sorry for people like you who are plastic!

  13. I never destroyed anything, my ex destroyed things, as I said you dont know the whole story and cannot comment on my situation.

  14. Karen:- Well said. The abuse and name calling is very repetitive and becomes very boring. Smacks of the schoolgirl playground.

  15. as stated by nacsa not to long ago it has now been announced by the csa that debts related to closed cases are now to become low priority for enforcement as the agency shifts its focus from collecting debt to preventing debt . as such i think it may now be highly probable that you will not see any of this money so maybe nows the time to let go and get on with your life, sorry to be the bearer of bad news

  16. to be honest I wont be giving up and I dont do all this negativity buy people telling me too.

  17. @ Karen,
    Im not the sad person still chasing an ex when you have had a massive payment from csa regarding there work on your case, the arrears should have been included in that payment and the csa left to claim it back from them, to be honest I have never known anybody moan as much over money when you know its never going to happen, as for alice she tells your group biased towards the PWC might I add exactly how to go about getting payments from the NRP even if it means lying about them because as we all know they take PWC word for everything you have the right for calling me a disgrace, honestly I don’t upload videos to youtube over my now “adult” kids, I don’t chase people that don’t want to be found and I certainly, you have had the massive payment yet you still winge for more, the only disgrace love is you!!!!!!!!

  18. Actually Im not sad. So you calling people names and the abuse that me and others got from you and your bully friends helps others then?
    No Lisa you are a total disgrace – Im sure if people read your comments and the abuse you give to people who dont side with you, they would see you in a different light!

  19. Funny that you call me, I have helped so many people regarding csa recently its untrue and some of there stories are heartbreaking, you have the right to call me after you come on here knowing you are holding the csa up for chasing NRP that’s cases are still open, as you claim your case is closed, why cant you just get on with life, im not biased, my actual case is being a PWC never getting anything while my husband supports us by getting his wages attacked every month by his ex leaving us with not a lot to live on because the CSA believe ever lying word that comes out the PWC mouth, biased you bet, it makes me laugh that your kids are grown up now your still single and still cant let go, do yourself a favour, let the csa deal with people that actually need help, and yes we know you work how could anybody ever forget Karen the zumba queen, as for acheivements you know nothing about me why????? Because my life isn’t all over the net like yours

  20. As for being single, thats my choice, you dont know my situation, maybe because my boyfriend who supported his own children without ever making a fuss, died of cancer!
    Im not asking the CSA to help with my case as Im capable of doing that myself once I get the papers.
    I dont want to know anything about you, as I would never have anything to do with the likes of people who call and abuse me like you do. At least Im making a living that is helpful to many, it seems to me that you are jealous.
    I let go a long time ago, I want justice, mind your own business if you cant say anything useful – which you cant, and and do your good deeds as you say, to others and dont waste your time with me as I certainly dont want to keep wasting my time with you!

  21. Lisa – why do you now say you never received any maintenance but state clearly in another thread that it took you 10 years to get any money for your lass? You have also previously commented on another site that you received money … you need to get your story straight and stick to it. When you start to post contradictory comments you start to look silly

  22. If this continues Lisa, I will put on the comments you made about me and others on here for all to read. So I suggest you now leave this before people see how ‘unbiased’ you really are!

  23. Why did it take 10 years???? why did the csa not do anything for my daughter??? answer that alice??

  24. @ Alice, since I know my life and you clearly don’t, read properly I never recieved a payment for my daughter in over 10 years, that’s right from 1999 till 2011 nothing was ever received, clear enough for you, im a PWC and a NRP wife, anymore details you would like me to clarify??

  25. so why did you state in another site that all the money you received in maintenance was put into an account for your daughter’s future ? seriously – stop contradicting yourself or you will lose all your credibility
    also – why do you spit your venom on PWCs who say they have supplied the agency with information on their ex’s circumstances when you also revealed recently that you also ‘did the legwork’ on your own case? Why was is acceptable for you to do this but it is not acceptable for others?
    consider also your commonly used phrase ‘he’s your ex for a reason’ – clearly your ex was an ex for a reason – and if I was of a mind to ‘assume’ as you do then I would assume that he had very good reason … why was he so reluctant to pay? Was it cos he wanted to move on and have a life? Why did you not allow the poor man to do so ? Did you trap him into having a child what he did not want? Why did you think there was any reason for him to be expected to support your daughter – you could have prevented a pregnancy, but you chose to get pregnant so should you not have done as you suggest to all the other PWCs and leave the man in peace and take full responsibility for the child and not involve the CSA ?

  26. in response to:
    lisa on March 19th, 2013 9:46 pm
    Why did it take 10 years???? why did the csa not do anything for my daughter??? answer that alice??

    perhaps the man had enough sense to keep leaving his job to avoid paying cos he might have thought the money would go to a money grabbing bitch who would spend it all on booze, fags, designer handbags and holidays with her new fella – perhaps he thought since the new fella was working he should support the child. Perhaps he thought you were lazy, maybe he went self-employed and falsified his accounts etc so that he didn’t have to pay you

    I really don’t know why it took the agency so long to track down your ex and get money that you say you got then say you didn’t get

  27. I have never read so much bollocks in my life, Karen get a grip you parasite, it’s women like you whom destroy any fathers chance of having any formal bond with there children, Yes I am an NRP, but let me just say I paid my ex every month without fail, my x re marries and moves away with my daughter and then phones up saying I will never see my daughter again, for 2 years I tried to regain contact to no avail, then my x wife rings me as her husband had left her, I dropped everything drove 250 mile to help, everything was fine contact resumed, I re Marry and the x reports me for bring non compliant, so tell me Karen ( in your infinite wisdom ) what did I do wrong, me nothing I moved on and got financially raped by an agency that is not fit for purpose, the children act specifies the welfare of the child is paramount, if that’s the case how can this be when an agency financially rapes a NRP, good luck with your ongoing case am sure money is your only prime goal

  28. karen,

    If the CSA have gained LO’s against your ex for arrears of CM, they should be securing the repayment of such.

    chall

  29. there are currently teams within the agency who work specifically on historic debt cases

  30. What I now do with the money is upto me??? seriously, Credibility you don’t have any, otherwise you wouldt bully NRP and call them for maybe thinking they have escaped there duty to there children, The DWP made it compulsory back in 99 to give the fathers details for claiming JSA, look into it im right by the way, the case went un noticed for years and then he got his then partner to close the case claiming to be me out of spite, that’s the only reason I made sure he was chased, yes he is still allowed to get on with his life, I have nothing to do with him, im saying the CSA staff did not have a clue and that why years back I had to do legwork, My daughter was wanted until he decided fun was to be had by going out with mates, but that’s got absolutely nothing to do with you, I have left him in peace, seeing as he lives 300 miles away from me I would assume that to be the case, maladministration my case is classed as, you have probably heard that term, my ex got away for 11 years, in just 3 weeks a deo was slapped on my hubbys wage and half his wages taken, one rule for one another rule for somebody else not even a letter telling him his wages dept had to do that, why because the ex PWC is a born liar as are most of them, AS for me telling pwc to bring there kids up??? yeah since im not involved with the csa its only right back in 99 the legwork had to be done because if the mums didt do it nobody else did, anything else you would like to know

  31. I think what is sad Lisa, that we all want one thing that the other parent supports their child/ren in all ways. Instead of turning against all of us, there is all in-house fighting now. I and I know others, including Alice did not call you names or be abusive to you when you were on the fb group. I feel it would be more beneficial for everyone to get on and try and help one another. Alice has tried to help others and so have many others too but you have continued to slag us down like your ‘friends’ too on your fb group. Its a shame as Im sure you could have valid points and help for others. But you will not get any credibility for resorting to slagging people down especially about their personal lives like you have mine. Something to think about and maybe keeping it off your fb group too.

  33. Escaped his duty to his children lol he escaped his duty to his children many years ago, thats made me laugh!

    ‘ex PWC is a born liar as are most of them’ so you think a statement like that gives you credibility? Im sure many PWC on here wouldnt agree with you on that.

    Pete – you are just biased because you are angry at your situation so you blame everyone. Something I dont as I also understand that there are PWC are ‘work the system’ to get what they can out of NRP who do pay and support their children and they are the ones who are getting crucified by the NRP who dont pay/support their chlldren. If you have read my posts you will see that.

  34. @ Karen, if you cared to check your emails months back when you had a run in with our FB group, you will have found an apology in there from me, because after all said and done you didt deserve that treatment, Alice being a CSA rep should be helping both NRP/PWC not just answering to cases which she deems to be easy, Its also in the CSA code of conduct that they remain professional at all times not being on a bully on an open forum which she clearly has done before

  35. so you did get money then? So why did you state later (in the same thread I now see) that you never got any? I often question when people contradict themselves.

    I am well aware that there was a legal duty in 1999 for those claiming benefits to supply the details of the father of their children – but there was no legal obligation to do the legwork – you could have supplied his basic details and left it at that, you now admit that you chased it cos there was money owing, how was this leaving him in peace?

    In 1999 the money would have gone to SoS and not yourself so I am not sure why you felt the need to chase it up when you were not going to receive the money yourself. Is it that you were happy for your ex to be made to sacrifice some of his income to the state but are less happy for your current husband to sacrifice some of his income to support his own child(ren) – of course this support will be less than it would be if he was not given an allowance for supporting your child.

  36. Since my ex took it upon himself toget his ex to close my case it was done more out of principal, The csa never sent letters or contacted me until that day, he was ok to pay for the kid he had with her then get her to close my case, which yes he admitted to afterwards that’s the only reason I chased him, I didt think it fair that my husband had supported my daughter financially and emotionally all her life and paid for his child to have the CSA take his ex,s word for everything and not give a toss for the kids who were living with my hubby, I secured regular payments in 2011 as I have just stated, nothing before that from 1999

  37. Karen i am no biased and not angry or balme everyone for my situation, if the agencey was fair and equall to all, then life would be so much easier, Yes i have been on the recieveing end of the csa, i have provided every bit of information they wanted, I never lied like most PWC, i did not run away from my responsibilities, in fact i went beyong and above being a father, I have moved on and all i am saying is that if parents between them come to some agreement that is best for all, Then maybe just maybe all the heart ache, tears and the lies would stop,

  38. Alice i take it that you are a CSA representitive, or work for the CSA, and i also assume that Alice is not your true name, If thats the case, the question
    1. why dont you disclose your true name, Simples really beacuse if you do work for the so called unfit for purpose agencey, then you would be disciplined for unproffessional code of conduct,

  39. Actually alice the money would have gone straight to me if any had been secured because believe it or not I work full time and so did my hubby, we always have!!!!! we come from hard working back grounds, I had to sign on after the place I worked closed down, so please don’t tar me with the same brush as the people who don’t work

  40. Well Im a PWC and I didnt lie again you are putting everyone in the same boat Pete, so yes you are angry and biased.
    Actually I did come to an agreement with my ex when I left him, I took the children to see him as he couldnt be bothered to come and see them, he paid me director at first then he said he wasnt going to and told me to go to the CSA as he would work the system and make sure I would get nothing, once he realised I wasnt coming back to him. He never took the children anywhere, wasnt there at times or would tell me I needed to come and get them earlier, even with orders in place he would change his mind about seeing them when it suited him, I would have to give them food and drink as he wouldnt supply them with anything and they didnt want to see him after a while. He made life difficult for the children and me, all to get back at me for leaving him because he was abusive. But I still havent slagged down other NRP because as I said I know not all of them are like my ex.

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