CSA are forcing my children into poverty

December 1, 2009

Around 4 weeksd ago the CSA contacted my place of work requesting they take payments directly from my wages of £88 per week, this was based on my average earnings of £220 per week. They said this was due to arreers going back to the start of August 09. Which i owed due to the fact i had not responded to any of their correspondance which had been sent to my previous address 200 miles from where i now live.

My ex put in the claim after i had paid her rent for 2 months paid the deposit on her new house and after several thousand of pounds she fraudulently stole from my bank account online. The CSA will not take any of this into consideration.

I am now living with my fiance and her 2 children with another baby on the way and trying to support my new family which is increasingly difficult when my wages are halved by unreasonable demands from the CSA. They have on several occasions sent sensitive documents meant for my employer to my home address dispite being told 4 times by myself and my employer the correct address, they told me that due to the fact i did not recieve any correspondance through Aug, Sept, and Oct as they were sent to a previous address i can appeal against the arrears so i did only to be told that they do not believe i was not living there even though i was working 200 miles away from that address the whole time and a new family had moved into my previous address.

The CSA in my opinion are totally incompetant in order to give £88 per week for my one non resident daughter they are causing neglect and poverty to the 3 children i am supporting, this means the CSA’s actions contradict their supposed purpose, i also believe they have a guilty till proven innocent policy which again totally contradicts the rulings of the european courts for human rights.

I think a full investigation and overhaul of the CSA is long overdue as i am fed up of being victimised and driven into poverty and being told it is due to legislation which is the only response they seem to have.

Thanks for reading
Paul Roberts

Comments

  • chickpea says:

    The 2 children in your new relationship are not your responsibility, that is down to their mother and father to pay for them. You need to provide for your biological daughter first and foremost. When you have the new baby you will get a reduction in the maintenance you have to pay.

  • Rach says:

    yes fathers should provide to their biological children but they are also alllowed to have a life too! in response to your comment chickpea why the hell should the nrpp’s income be taken into account by the csa as it isnt their duty to support the nrp’s “other” children either? but it is according to the csa!

  • chickpea says:

    Completly baffled!!!! Where did i mention anything about the NRP’s partners income???? Did i say they should be supporting the NRPs children?… I basically said her 2 children should’nt be the NRPs priority, his biological child is. The 2 children in his new relationship should be supported by their mother and father. Does she get CSA for them? if not she should persue him and then the NRP in question this topic would not have to be financially resposible for them. THEY ARE NOT HIS CHILDREN ..SHE IS she comes first.

  • rach says:

    it works both ways if nrp isnt supposed to support his new partners children than nrpp shouldnt be expected to support nrps children! you seem to live in a “perfect” world way everyone who breaks up does support financially to their last life, is this gentleman being denied access? if he is then the pwc shouldnt be allowed to fleece him financially and then deny her child a relationship with the father which is what happens regularly

  • Paul Roberts says:

    Thank you all for your comments, I have no access to my Non
    Resident Daughter as she has been taken away by her mother, I had
    good regular contact and spent alot of money on her before she was
    taken away but her mother decided instead of me paying for things
    like clothes, food, days out for my little girl etc… she would
    rather have the money, so she moved 400 miles away and got the CSA
    on to me and I dont know where abouts they are only that they are
    somewhere in the plymouth area. To answer chickpea I do feel i have
    an obligation to pay for my biological children but I have taken on
    someone elses kids so I can have a family life and give them back
    their lives as their Father has dissapeared. Also my new baby has
    been born and to help support her needs the CSA did indeed give a
    deduction in the amount I have to pay….. They gave me £1 per
    week!!! Thats right… one pound!!! This is not about shunning
    resposibility its about an incompitent organisation which is
    activly targeting and punishing not only the bad Dads out there but
    the really good Dads too and also they are making the new family
    and Children of the NRP’s Life very hard indeed and they seem to be
    totally unaccountable for this? Paul Roberts

  • paul roberts says:

    Chickpea, I think you are Gary Chick of the CSA, Right?

  • Craig says:

    Chickpea is evidently a case wanker for the CSA wanker his day will come

  • chickpea says:

    Actually i’m a medical secretary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • paul roberts says:

    So you are still there pea brain.

  • chickpea says:

    Hmm and why do you assume i’m a ‘pea brain’

  • paul roberts says:

    I dont, its just a play on words chick “PEA” I was almost going to say sorry then I relized you must be a tad slow if you truly missed that point Lol 🙂 so the statement will stand.

  • chickpea says:

    Sounded like an insult because everytime a female post on here thats what she gets!

  • Paul Roberts says:

    Not so there are loads of women on the side of NRP’s I talk to them everyday. Also there are plenty of NRP’s who infact are women. Its not a Men against women thing at all. Its PWC’s against NRP’s and I only have a problem with the Greedy PWC’s who use the CSA and their own kids a weapons against their once loved parent who was a part of the family but has not only got to rebuild their life but pay for the PWC to live too. Just wake up for goodness sake. If its a sexist thing for you then you’re on the wrong group.

  • rach says:

    i think you may be right paul this chick pea has been leaving very pro csa comments on various posts by the way im female chickpea and i definitely do NOT agree with the csa and what they do to nrp s and second families.

  • Mum of 3 says:

    @ Chickpea I’m a woman and I’ve never been insulted on here but maybe thats because I don’t talk out of my arse.

  • chickpea says:

    I’m actually ex army 22 years service mother of 3! Oh and now a medical secretary……So have’nt had time to work for the CSA.

  • chickpea says:

    Oh and by the way brother is someone being screwed as NRP!

  • jeremy pogue says:

    chickpea crawl back under your stone at your csa office and grow a pair your supposed to be a man not a frigging robot for the child abuse agency, you are by definition a CHILD ABUSER now FUCK OFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • rach says:

    well said jeremy !!!

  • chickpea says:

    Well your a grown up are’nt you. Obviously your not able to read I DON’T AND HAVE NEVER WORKED FOR THE CSA.

  • chickpea says:

    Oh and by the way ‘rach’ show me one pro csa comment i have made?????????

  • rach says:

    on this post alone your opening statement was “you need to provide for your biological daughter first and foremost” now when us nrps or nrpps phone the csa to beg them to consider lowering their ridiculous payment demands this is the exact sort of thing we are told (tough that your other children wont get fed/clothed etc our concern is with the Qc). this man is trapped in csahell fearing for his lovely family hoping for some advice from someone who understands and who has been there/going through it and you bleat that crap to him. you also spout similiar shit on other posts. you personally are not going through any csa trouble so whats gives you the right to “advise” only shit head csa staff do that here so do one.

  • paul roberts says:

    Thank you Rach :0)

  • chickpea says:

    Who the fuck do you lot think you are?
    I am a 43yr old mother of 3 girls, did 22years in the british army, retired in 2007 from the Royal Artillery. My 1st husband was killed in the gulf war in 1991, 4mths before my 1st daughter was born she never had the chance to meet her dad. I remarried and had another 2 daughters and have been married for 15yrs. My life has’nt always been a bed of roses. I drove 16 hours from Germany on several oaccsions to get back home and stop my younger brother from killing himself because of the CSA, i paid for his kids when he could’nt because he lost his business because of the CSA. I got off my backside and visited the CSA in Bolton and demanded to see a manager, and guess what ?i saw one and 3 months later after 2 more demanding visits, he got his case sorted. So i think i am entitled to air my point of few. I’m still looking for the clause on this site that says you have to be an NRP or PWC to have a right to an opinion , so please point me in it’s direction.

  • chickpea says:

    Oh and for the record, i have never said or even implied that an NRPP’s partner is or should be responsible for the maintenance of and NRP’s child or children. What i did say was the NRP’s children must come first for the NRP, not once did i say the NRPP.
    Most NRP’s and PWC’s both had consenual sex knowing that it could lead to a baby and therefore making a contract with that child or children that they come first in the parents lives above all others .
    Just because i don’t bleat on about the tough time the good NRP’s get with the CSA, does not imply i work for them, it just means i don’t feel the need too. I first visited this sight a year ago and took away some good advice but now it’s turned into a playground and advice has gone out of the window.
    Crack on being abusive and condecending to me if thats what floats your boat but i’m alot more mature and think more things are gained by good old advice, and being proactive!

  • paul roberts says:

    chickpea, I do not understand why if you have had so much hurt caused by the CSA you come on here and defend their cause so strongly? You told me in your first post that my step kids are not my resposibility!!! They are!!! i am married to their mother and live with them they call me their dad and i feel i am their Dad, I am the biological father to their little sister and together we are a FAMILY!!! Do I not have the god given right to have a family to love them and support them and deffend anything that might threaten them? The CSA’s demands on me are too much they are leaving my family broke!!! I am a good NRP I have always paid for my daughter since the day she was born, the ex got greedy and took me for everything I had she even stole from me. then she vanished and we cant find her, I used to see my little girl all trhe time but I havent seen her in over a year now because of her Mum and to top it all off I have to pay for this privilage and it costs my new family everything, oh and she left me by the way she was having an affair! Shes bloody horrible! When I married into this new family part of the commitment was that I will love and support my wife and I look after the children in the family as part of that agreement and because I love them and want to look after them, we dont know where their real dad is as he is a genuine deadbeat. You have caused the hatred towards you by being so insensative and yes you do have the right to veiw your oppinion but we all have the right to dissagree with you and tell you so.
    This site is fantastic it is a real outlet for people just like me who are forced into poverty by the CSA and is one of our only ways of venting our anger at a system which destroys peoples lives… Our lives!

  • Mum of 3 says:

    @ Chickpea I am sorry for the loss of your first husband, however does your husband not make any financial contributions towards your first daughter?

    I believe the reference to NRPP’s income being taken into consideration is due to old CSA system where any tax credits, benefits and the NRPP’s own income were taken into consideration when calculating maintenance payments therefore in effect directly “stealing” money meant for another child, there are thousands of families still on the old system even though it was replaced years ago.

  • anon says:

    Oh my god! What a disgusting group of individuals. Chickpea – I totally agree with you! Biological children come first and should be supported. If they can’t handle the consequences don’t have sex. It disgusts me when men leave their biological children behind and start new families and forget about the children they have. Its not the childs fault the parents can’t get on. Stop blaming the woman and everyone else and take responsiblity. Tough luck and MAN UP!!

  • anon says:

    and to add… Chickpea you sound like a fantastic woman and inspiration!! I can’t believe the disgusting abuse written to you from a very valid and true point you made. Though people always act and behave badly and blame others when they know they are in the wrong.

  • Allan Morrell says:

    Anon…anon..anon… an on!!!!!! lets first make a clarification reference your blind conical stare into disbelief and witness to only words that you want to believe you saw…..

    NOT one NRP on here has said they are not paying….. or……. do not want to pay for their previous family offspring… In fact … most have evidently confirmed they ARE paying and it IS CAUSING THEIR NEW FAMILY HARDSHIP & POVERTY while financially suppoting PWC retail therapy HABITS/ADDICTIONS rather than use such financial provisions on the welfare of the children.. HENCE CHILD SUPPORT…. NOT PWC SUPPORT!!!!!!!!.

    HOWEVER!… I do not financially support my ex… this way I guarantee my child is provided for financially and emotionally… Am I being an irresponsible father????

    Please Anon…. carry on…. an on…… an on!!!!!!!!! Excuse da pun!!!!

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