All I’ve ever asked for was to be treated fairly

208 thoughts on “All I’ve ever asked for was to be treated fairly”

1. He we see again the sneaky, under-handed tactics of the CSA and their staff.

   They are an out of control bunch of ‘muppets’, who repeatedly act outside of the ‘rule or enactment of law’, that they are entitled to use. Politicians and lawyers turn a ‘blind eye’ to their activities on the basis that targets have to be met on child poverty!

   The establishment and the CSA have attempted to demonise and criminalise me for being a parent, on a matter that has absolutely nothing to do with them. What happens in my private family life is none of their business.

   I am hoping for ‘restorative justice’ to take place in the future, as non resident parents are ‘routinely’ having their Human Rights broken, by politicians, CSA staff, and a system that is ‘not fit for purpose’ supported by flawed legislation which only lends itself to a ‘shambolic’ system.

   Keep all of your paper work, and record as much as you can for evidential purposes for the time when, lawyers bring the CSA to book.

   Mis-sold your P.P.I? No but have been screwed by the CSA!

2. One other thing here, I have just found out from the separate appeals section that this should be addressed by the CSA as this is not an appeal matter, its due to an incompetent mistake from the CSA and I need to raise it with another tier of the CSA…Yeah once again they seem to tell you anything and hope you run out of time to complain, well its time to take a stand and get my money back which could provide a great holiday for me and my kids….as well as feed them better and cloth them.

   I dont understand how a class 1 debt can be acted upon for one person yet when they make a genuine mistake or mistake due to not knowing their jobs then it cannot be sorted, it would be easy enough to cut my payments until they have resolved this….Not all of us so called absent parents which I find offensive are trying to con the system. I notified them that I had been earning more money..but seems the more truthful you are the more they think you are a soft case. its time the people making maistakes got a 3 strikes system brought in and either got retrained or if they continued along the same mistaken line, then time to get them a new career.

   This affects my whole family, including my kids when I cant take them out or buy them some clothes, so who are they really punishing…makes it look like I am not doing a good job with my kids…unforgiveable.com

   Please let me know your thoughts on this as I really dont understand it…could see if I was trying not to pay

   Thank you John for your words, I generally dont like to criticise or look for people to be punished but if I made as many mistakes in my job and wasnt doing my job then I would be disciplined, and I would accept this

   I look forward toa ny other feedback

3. Exactly ,John,we (NRP & P) have been treated unfairly & paid compensation (£50)because the CSA took so long to tell us of any changes costing us a lot of money ! I am expecting some justice in the future when this all comes out !

4. If the CSA have a record of your case being ‘closed’ then there should be NO charges or incurred cost.. THEIR RULES AND LEGISLATION, however if the case was not officially closed by some idiot who works for the CSA and put on hold then you will incur arrears ( common CSA tactic… Tell you one thing, mean another to ensure they keep their jobs by having ‘work’ to do).

   The CSA can, and should refund you where a refund is due.. Another CSA tactic is “our computer system is not working”, “I have no information regarding this”,…. This is in hope that you will give up and accept you have lost this money….

   Please contact your local MP and have a look at NACSA website as they know more about CSA rules, legislation and application of both than the idiots who work for the CSA do.. The CSA is an abomination….

5. unfortunately in this instance the problem is that the case has been closed – had the original case remained open and been made maintenance direct there would have been 2 QCs – each case would have a liability of 10% … since the original case has been closed the 2nd case has been assessed with 1 QC and as such the assessment is 15% of the net income of the NRP.

   If the original PWC were to re-apply – or if the NRP submits his own application now the maintenance going fwd will be 20% split 10% / 10% between each case so the weekly amount payable to the 2nd PWC will be less – however, due tot he legislation the application cannot be back-dated to when the original case was closed

6. Hi Alice and Carrie, than you for your comments….it was the CSA who advised me to close this and paid me £50 compensation for giving me this useless advice, I should have been advised to keep the case open and it would be marked as getting paid direct.

   They have admitted this but are trying to fob me off in everyway by telling me I have to go to the appeals commission then the appeals telling me I have to get this refund through them…they cant give bad advice and not refund the money it has cost you. They try to put everything off until eventually they get the court letters then they seem to decide its time to settle, after all the money gets deducted from the CSA payment…according to the legal advice from my CSA only solicitor.

   Just extra hassle I could do without but appreaciate everyones input….does anyone think this is fair or am I seeing it through tinted glasses??? I am not exagerating or telling anything that is untrue here, so would be good to hear any thoughts on that 🙂

   Thank you for all your replies

7. Welcome back Alice, we all note that you haven’t responded to our plea for help with bringing the CSA to justice?? Is that because your bonus is in jeapordy?? Being a CSA worker who advises people ‘accurately’.. Lol lol lol

   @ David, contact your MP and/or CAB for advice… our ‘Alice’ by her own admission, is a CSA worker who gets a bonus each year year from CSA and as such, has an invested interest, NOT in you, but her bonus??

   Please search for a website called NACSA… They will provide you with unbiased information based on legislation and CSA rules….. NO invested interest….

8. Thank you Sally, had a quick look and it is something I will look into….will be cheaper than my solicitor though will speak to someone n look for more online info on them to see exactly what they can do

   Much appreciated 🙂

9. WIth NO invested interest I have already ‘accurately’ replied – due to the legislation, if the original PWC or the NRP in this post were to make a new application, the CSA cannot back-date it to when the original case was closed. CAB and the NRP’s MP will advise the same,

10. Alice you.need to admit the csa isnt fit for purpose, how many people post here daily screaming for help, you overlook things such as we are human beings, we deserve to be treated with respect, people who.have had the displeasure of getting help from you in the past would tell you they get the same answers from the website, would it not help more if you actually blew the whistle on what happens there, since wheb did dads having relationships with there kids have anything to do with you or your csa minions, the place needs shutting down and you all need sacking for all the mistakes dad/children relationships destroyed just purely for money, not just maintenance but your annual bonus system to, disgraceful all off you

11. Hi David, agree with Lisa and Sally giving £50 a lot cheaper than refunding the money that should be yours to spend on your children…. it is a disgusting tactic and one that is raking in the coffers….. I am trying to start a news letter highlighing the unjust activity of the CSA and would like to use your story… If its ok you can contct me at eddie424@outlook.com… I hope it all work out for you there are many in the same boat.

12. Contact the Parliamentary Ombudsman (PHSO in London), and make a formal complaint of maladministration, in that you were advised on a course of conduct that has inflicted severe financial hardship upon you. The more that do this, the more complaints are recorded, and it builds up a future ‘class action’ against the CSA.

    However, be careful as M.P.’s and the Ombudsman all ‘sleep’ together with the CSA. They may tell you one thing, do another, and then whitewash your complaint.

    They did this to me! Trust nobody!

13. David,

    Alice is very good at quoting legislation but does not give you the correct advice as usual, Yes the case was closed so can not be back dated, However as you have followed CSA advice, then they have maladministrated. get a copy of your data files which cost £10, this will show many errors on your case and will be required by you to aid your complaint.

    It is amazing how Alice never gives this advice, but she claims to be on here to help all parents!!!!!. Please ensure you qoute you have suffered financial loss as a result of their maladministration, But be prepared for the CSA to say the did not inform you to close the case it was your decision, That is why you need your file. Where you WILL find more mistakes.

    Good Luck

14. Alice on May 30th, 2013 7:34 am

    WIth NO invested interest I have already ‘accurately’ replied – due to the legislation, if the original PWC or the NRP in this post were to make a new application, the CSA cannot back-date it to when the original case was closed. CAB and the NRP’s MP will advise the same,

    Alice you did not “accurately” reply as you failed to provide the way forward, your reply suggests it is tough and does not deal with the FACT he was advised wrongly and now has suffered a loss, Why have you not mentioned the legislation in place for this event? Selective of you? and rather poor form as usual.

15. Hi David, You sound like one of the really good guy’s out there and that’s where your problems start. The vile, bullying, lying, deceitful CSA thrive on dealing with people like you, the compliant NRP.

    One of their favourite lines is “we’ve made a mistake”. What they really mean is “your a PAYE soft target and we’re going to stitch you up and there’s little or nothing you can do about it.”

    They make up “ficticious” arrears, let the figure get to £3,000, make contact with you asking you to pay the debt over the phone using your credit card. If you refuse they have powers to issue you with a liability order/send baliff’s to your house, put in force a DEO taking 40% of your net pay.

    There’s people on CSA 1, CSA 2, people overpaying, people underpaying, people not paying at all and on top of that, CSA legislation is so complicated.

    Never deal with these clowns on the phone. As you’ve discovered yourself, they will lie to you and your case file will not have corres put into it or corres taken out. Request your Data Protection file which costs £10. Send all letters registered post and email a copy to your MP. Lisa can you assist with who else David should email.

    Lisa has set up a FB page. It would be a good idea to join the group. Also email Eddie, who I will be meeting up with in the near future
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    Its going to be a long hard slog for all of us. I know people don’t have a lot of spare time, but Eddie wants to set up local Focus Groups which is a great idea.

    Follow the advice given on the other comments and good luck with your case.

16. I agree with you David… I think we need to get a mass document listing al the ways that they breach our human rights to the ombudsman… then the ECHR. Gotta be a way of making thm answerable to all the miscarriage of justice that they have committed

17. David,

    Google the following

    Financial redress for maladministration and Principles for financial redress.

    Both available on DWP website but Alice was I am sure unaware of this or I am sure it would have mentioned it.

18. We also have a website with some really useful info, http://www.csa-ripoffs.co.uk,

19. If you go to the ECHR site, you can download a document to refer your case to them.

    I downloaded and completed the document, and sent it to ECHR, stating that my case had not been through the British courts, but through a ‘rigged’ tribunal. I explained that it was impossible to obtain any justice in the British courts, and that the CSA were a law unto themselves, breaching Human Rights law, and interfering in my private family life.

    Unsurprisingly, the ECHR replied by stating that they could not deal with my case without a ruling from the British courts…..which we all know are ‘rigged’ when it comes to child support cases!

    More recently, the EU have recently approved new legislation to track and trace those who owe maintenance throughout the EU and other nations. So, there you have it even the Presidential state of Europe are subscribing to the money laundering practices of child maintenance, but on a larger scale!

20. lol…yes as usual Alice pops up where it suits to spout legislation and pick and choose her victims to reply to with garbage.You always quick to spout the way the system works but never give advise on a positive solution.
    As Stuart said Alice..you did not provide a way forward.
    why didn’t you offer Johns advise about maladministration ?
    or Sallys advise re search website called NACSA ??

    No Alice because its not in your interest and against company policy to piss on its own chips
    Gonk

21. There is that inbred Alice spouting her bureaucratic bile again. All of this in the name of lifting children out of poverty more like enforcing people into poverty.

22. I appreciate the advice on the way forward, I am at this moment looking through websites that have been suggested and see many useful pieces of information on the way forward….as per usual there seems to be people only interested in their own motives and ‘no invested interest’ is shallow – yes it might be legislation but it is poor and unjust, there should be advice on this – given by the CSA when they make mistakes — not….heres £50 now shut up and go away, hopefully you wont get proper advice or be able to take us to court and hopefully you run out of time to try and recover your money as well as cost you and the taxpayer more in the long term. Isnt there a recession? Shouldnt the government be trying to save money rather than letting mistakes caused by public servants cost more for them and the working man/woman?

    If I made a mistake I would hold my hand up and sort it….after all it would be easy for them to reduce the payments so that I could recover my overpayments due to their TERRIBLE advice, the CSA should be held accountable for their mistakes and not punish the innocent party who has done everything to benefit their responsibilities concerning their kid/kids. How many times are the government going to try and fix this before they finally scrap it for the old system with a judge looking at what you earn, what you can afford–having all the facts at hand then making a reasonable decision, yes when something works relatively well they seem to want to alter it but when it aint working they dont want to go near it incase it makes them look stupid once again.

    This whole legislation stinks…I wonder who came up with the idea and what PM pushed it forward, dont want to get political…though guess I have a bit. Another tax on the working man. Its really time not only the CSA get held responsible its time the government got its act together n sorted these things instead of working out how to swindle their own expenses…sorry for my outburst but this is getting to be one sorry country, no wonder we are getting derated by banks when our working men/women cant afford to work or have to starve themselves due to atrocious government.

    Eddie I will have a think and get in touch with you…Again everyone, thank you for your advice and help. Any more is much appreciated

    David

23. A point for Alice….Since the CSA told me to close the case are you saying that they cannot be held accountable for their error and are above the law?

    If this is the case are we in a CSA dictatorship when it comes to failed relationships with kids? We have to do what they decide no matter if it is right or wrong?

24. David, I agree with everything you say. Reading your comments you sound a decent down to earth guy, who’s been walked all over by the CSA SCUM. I eat, drink, sleep and breath hating that shower of shit. Its so so wrong the obscene powers they have been given to destroy decent people’s lives.

    The CSA staff are misfits of society and get enormous pleasure fucking up peoples lives. The CSA was initially set up to go after the fathers who weren’t paying. However to justify their existence and meet their targets they go after the compliant fathers who are already paying.

    I don’t want this to get political either, but I understand the CSA was thought of by Margaret Thatcher and introduced during John Major’s term. I know they’re a lot of MT haters out there, but the CSA got a lot worse when Blair (whose expenses mysteriously got shredded during the expenses scandal) and that fat dyed hair twat Brown who told the CSA to get more robust and gave the CSA more powers to make up ficticious arrears and hound the compliant NRP. Sadly Cameron and Duncan Smith have allowed it to continue. Don’t know who to vote for now at the next election.

25. David, your obviously new to CSA Complaints from Hell. I see you thanked “Alice” for advice but have read the comments since and now realise how much she/he is hated. She/he is very economical with the information/advice provided and like others have said won’t provide any useful information for the way forward.

    If the CSA was disbanded those two bob CSA clerks would be out of work, so its not in their interest to provide you with the correct information/advice.

    Finally the CSA aren’t accountable, are above the law yes we are in a CSA dictatorship.

26. Two things jump out at me in this instance,
    1) Did you open the case in the first place or did the ex open it? If it was the ex or even the SofS as the ex may have been claiming benefits at the time, then you could NOT have had the case closed, only the ex can do that.
    2) I would consider recourse by means of Official Error and on the basis that you were mislead and given inaccurate information bt an Officer of the CSA.
    3) I would be requesting a copy of my DP file to see what has been put in the notes referring to the closing of the case.

    Ok, so I cannot count!!

27. David – the CSA are not above the law, if a person has made a mistake the person who makes that mistake can be taken to task, I am not saying that person will be sacked on the spot, they may be given additional training, and like any other issue where staff issues are raised you would not be informed of the outcome.

    Clearly you were mis-advised, as it appears you were not talked through all the options – in your situation it’s more beneficial not to close the original case but to keep it open and make it maintenance direct.

    I appreciate your thinking of why can’t the agency reduced your payments for a time, unfortunately (and at the risk of being shouted down once again for mentioning the legislation) due to the fact that the agency works to a legislation they cannot reduce the payments on the other case – that case was correctly assessed at the time, the payments to the PWC in that case cannot be reduced due to bad advice by the agency. Equally, due the constricts of the legislation a new case with the original PWC (if the child in from that relationship still meets the criteria of a Qualifying child) cannot have the effective date back-dated, so although moving forward the payments on the existing case would be reduced to 10% of your net income this would not re-coup the difference for the years that have gone past.

    I do sincerely understand that you feel a £50 payment for the error is nowhere near the amount that would not have been paid had you been given all the options and made the decision to keep the original case open, I accept that you most likely consider it an insult, and I can see why you would think that. What I cannot say is if by taking the matter further you will get a cash payment due to mal-administration … that is a side of the CSA I have never worked in, but that is obviously an option that you can consider.

28. Alice continue to spew you bile and I am going to have your IP address and expose you and your residential address. I know that the agency allow you on here and when you were in that closed group on FB giving info and sorting out cases for all of those money grabbing PWC’s using the kids as the moral high ground. Not once did I see them say my ex owes the money for his kids it was always my ex owes me this and that all because of the CSA coming up with fictitious arrears. Go and crawl back under your rock you spineless piece of shit. If the agency was doing the right thing then why are so many innocent people hard working people screaming for help and why is there a media blackout – how very democratic of the agency, quite obviously they have no interest in the children, quite frankly it has nothing to do with lifting children out of poverty because the agency enforces children into poverty. I know of a guy in his late 50’s his kids are in their late 20’s and the CSA have pounced upon him making him homeless – yeah really lifting children out of poverty its all about money laundering for the government. You have seen the proof Alice I showed you the evidence that Tony Blair and his parasites were skimming the interest from the bank account where all the money fleeced from the NRP’s. Go fuck yourself Alice you oxygen thief.

29. Topper’s reply came whilst I was typing mine – in respect of who closed the case, and the probability is that it would be the PWC who did this, then it has to be established whether the PWC was given the maintenance direct option, so it may be necessary for her to also request a copy of her DP file too.

30. It’s ok, I get used to being squashed between you romantics on here.

    It might be a worthy investment of £10 to find out exactly what went on all those years ago??

31. Sorry guys.. Don’t want to jump in the ‘alice’ band wagon but the brain washed, CSA bonus driven ‘person’ made yet another untrue statement…

    Alice on May 30th, 2013 11:08 pm
    Topper’s reply came whilst I was typing mine – in respect of who closed the case, and the probability is that it would be the PWC who did this, then it has to be established whether the PWC was given the maintenance direct option, so it may be necessary for her to also request a copy of her DP file too.

    PWCs are the ONLY ones whe can close the case!! The NRPs don’t have that option, so there is no ‘probability’ about it!! So when the PWC tell the NRP she/he has closed the case and the NRP starts paying direct, the PWC can lie (as they often do) keep the case open and next time the NRP doesn’t do what she wants, she will go back to CSA and say she/he received no money and the CSA WILL believe her and issue DEO….. AND ITS UP TO THE NRP TP PROVE OTHERWISE….

    Alice ‘intentionally’ makes statements like this under the premis of ‘accuracy’ but like the rest of the CSA plebs, she manipulates information to attempt to make the CSA rules reasonable…. NRPs have NO RIGHTS to close a CSA case….. The decision is down to the PWC and the PWC only…

    @ Alice… Have you actually read the comments people on here have made?? We all can’t be wrong about you…. No-one has any interest (other than to correct your misleading comments) in what you say, even David (OP)… Sees you for what you are…. Yet it doesn’t deter you from coming on here to tout for business time and time again….. Just like a prostitute an a street corner….

32. Incorrect Sally – if the case was NRP application and not superceded by the PWC then the NRP would be the only person who could close that case.

    When a case is closed the NRP and PWC will both be issued with closure letters, if there are arrears on the case and these are to be collected the NRP will be issued with a collection schedule, the PWC will be issued with a payment schedule, if there are arrears which are not being collected the NRP and PWC will again be issued with schedules showing nil amounts, along with suspension letters. If there are no arrears the NRP and PWC will be issued with schedules showing nil.

    So, if an NRP is told by a PWC that the case has been closed, and they do not receive closure letters and a schedule they should contact the agency and confirm the situation.

33. and part of the reason I come on here is to correct information given by those who think they know what they are talking about

34. The NRP CANNOT close a case without the approval of the PWC!!!

    Aha ha ha did you really add that last part in…

    here is ANOTHER example of YOU, the CSA worker giving ‘accurate’ advice…

35. oops pressed send to quickly there… You and other CSA staff cannot even get addresses, bank account details, names correct and here you are telling everyone again… what the CSA ‘will’ do… the CSA are useless Alice!!!

    I’ll repeat what I have said… the NRP cannot close a case, if that were true then 1,000’s and thousands of NRP’s would CHOOSE to close their case and pay direct to the kids/PWC!!!

    You manipulate information and facts again Alice…. “if the case was NRP application’….. very, VERY few NRP’s raise claims with the CSA it is the PWC (with the incentive of the CSA getting them more money) and as such its ONLY the PWC who can close a case…. CORRECT!!!

36. Alice although I despise your comments I have to finally say at last you have admitted that errors occur and you have no dealings with that side of the CSA. Now you have taken that step you may wish to review what you initially say, Alongside the legislation you live and die by is further protection for the NRP. It is clearly obvious that you and other case workers and managers do not follow this. If they did why in a 5 year period were there 50,000 cases with errors that recieved compensation of 17 Million pounds of tax payers money. That is no way to operate and you need to explain that although those are the rules in legislation, There are certain procedures and rules you need to explore and follow before acting. 50,000 people were affected by the CSA in such a way that compensation was paid over a five year period. Not good enough by anyones standards.

    Thoughts Please.

37. sorry to but in Stuart but this is the true Alice and how she feels about NRP’s.. she will go all out to help PWCs and very little to help NRP’s…. what she called a “loophole” was clarified by the FACTS Steve gave…

    Alice on January 15th, 2013 6:29 pm
    Unfortunately the CSA cannot class a Directors Loan as income so this will not be taken into account in any MC they process. Another loophole that I am sure a lot of NRP’s are able to use to their full advantage – address the issue to your MP
    If your ex is in receipt of Tax Credits these can be taken into account for MC purposes – if your current MC does not include Tax Credits then contact your CSA office and ask for a re-assessment.

    Steve on May 31st, 2013 8:47 am

    You are confusing the loan income rules from companies. The £5,000 figure applies to a Director who has borrowed money from his company. The Directors Loan in a company represents taxed money that the Director has previously invested in the business or not taken out over the course of many years. These funds have already been taxed and are therefore not income.

38. Sally butt in whenever lol, I am no fan of Alice and you can read my comments berating her “Advice”, This however is the first time she has come close to admitting her “mistake” in not giving correct advice.

    We all know her motives and will keep on policing her as you do, I do however feel her bosses should be aware of the misinformation she gives out to people desperate for help, We both know CSA stock response is That it is the legislation that forces their decision, That is utter bull and Alice should know this too, There is redress for poor decisions and Alice should acknowledge the CSA errors and point the poster in the direction of that.

    Sally I am on your side lol

39. My god Alice actually giving advise thats half right, I nearly fell in the floor with shock, I think alice alongside us should help us uncover the csa for what it is, bullying debt collection racket, if we could getbthis maybe then we would get fairness for all

40. Hee hee Stuart.. the woman disgusts me, she is like terminal cancer… you know she is going to be with us until our dying breath…. in the funeral parlour picking our pockets… ripping off the soles of our shoes in case we are hiding money… lol

    She will not accept she and the CSA intentionall manipulate informationf or their own/CSA gains without ANY regard to the families she is destroying in the process!!

    She said that she reported back issues with the CSA to her bosses but when I reminded her of that yesterday… she ignored my comment… ha ha ….typical CSA pleb!

41. oops lots of typos there, i’m sure you know what I mean though… it’s my home-time.. 🙂

42. David,
    I don’t think you expected such a response to your post ?

43. Brett,

    I definitely did not expect even half of the response I’ve had 🙂 but theres a lot of good information and as I have found out myself when dealing with the CSA, they never admit they are wrong and cant fix their mistakes, which would be the honourable thing to do. When they are forced to say they are wrong, they try every trick in the book not to fix it and try to blame everyone else, legislation and the colour of the sky on another planet.

    Its quite clear they have their staff brainwashed too…believing they are helping children, yes they might be for one parent but when the kid spends time with the parent who is basically paying for them then they see the other side, someone who cant give them all the treats because they are supporting them and their other parent be it male or female.

    As I stated I dont mind supporting my kid but when its broke down to hours I have my son 40% of the time….but because theres only 5 overnight stays in a fortnight I still have to pay but I do get a miniscule reduction….in my case I think they should look at all the days I have him, all the meals I give him, all the arrangements for picking him up from school and taking him to school as well as everything else along the way….but guess they aint interested….well I dont need to guess as I know they aint interested. Hopefully it wont be long til they are disbanded as I think there is new legislation which gives both parents the same rights and the same time with the kids, hence no payments going either way…but maybe thats me being too clever and thinking everything can be equal…thats not a dig at you ladies out there, its just my view on how it should be and how the law should be totally unbiased and treat everyone the same…..even equal pay etc for everyone…I am not biased, maybe too much of a dreamer and believer in fairness for everyone.

    Sorry it seems I have a wee rant again….I’m getting good at this ranting, just wait til I have to deal with the CS again, maybe I will rant a little louder and a little longer 🙂

44. sally – if the case was opened by application by the NRP and not superceded by an application from the PWC then the NRP is actually the ONLY person who can close the case … perhaps before you reply and try to make it look like I do not know my job then you should check the facts … otherwise you just look silly

45. Alice do us all a favour and spout your bullshit elsewhere, your getting boring repetetive and spew constant lies, CSA trained robots are compulsive liars, these.people want it plain simple help, in black and white, not the jargon your trained to adhere to, we are not your clients, your just a mere minion who believes her own bile, please help these people or dont bother, go back to your facebook group and help the “im owed this and that” people, they speak languages we dont

46. Hi Lisa,

    I noticed this straight away, shame she cant keep her crap for her working hours instead of trying to get verification and gratification on here….from genuine people who are looking for helpful information.

    Sorry Alice but you are a company man….who is looking for some explanation to what you are preaching…you should help people not give them the COMPANY bullshit. Help people instead of hindering them, I have already obtained more information and help from people on here who are not with the CSA and my solicitor who only deals with CSA fuck ups (apologies to anyone this offends). I wanted to find out if this was isolated to me but its quite obvious its not….it affects both men and women alike….time the CSA got a grip n someone put the leash back on!!!!

    There does seem to be a media blackout of the problems they cause….time someone took responsibility and tamed the beast that was released

47. Hiya… Everyone except for Alice realises that the ‘silly’ one is Alice… However… She needs her bonus so will continue to give us all her interpretation of CSA legislation and rules.. As I have said before, she is no better than a prostitute touting for business on a street corner…. The difference? Prostitutes do it out of need, Alice does it for pleasure…

    @ Alice….. READ YOUR OWN BIBLE….. CSA cases that are opened by PWC (99.99999 – thanks to you and your thickwit colleagues promising PWCs more money by using CSA) … CANNOT be closed by NRPs… You are intentionally manipulating facts!!!

    Read everyone else’s response and what do you get….. “Alice is a useless member of CSA staff who touts for business that EVERYONE slags off….. Because she does not give ALL details and facts….

48. David, good to see your more street wise now, to the monster aka The CSA.

49. Sally – clearly you have not read what I have posted and your own reply – and you have the stupidity to call me thick!

    Mt replied have clearly stated – including some bits important IN CAPITALS …the very very important bit to read in my replies is IF THE CASE IS AN NRP APPLICATION ..;.

    in your response it shows

    CSA cases that are opened by PWC (99.99999 – thanks to you and your thickwit colleagues promising PWCs more money by using CSA) … CANNOT be closed by NRPs

    so the very very important bit for you to re-read from the quote you put in your reply is

    cases that are opened by PWC

    now perhaps since I put that in terms that the average 10 year old could understand maybe you will see the difference

50. @ Alice….how many cases are actually opened by the nrp and then get superceded by the pwc? Something tells me all the time if this is the case!