Why on earth can’t the CSA find my ex wife?
I have been fobbed off by the CSA for over ten years now to the point where I don’t even bother complaining anymore. Although I have passed them all the details they say they cannot find about my ex wife, they still say she is not earning any money and therefore cannot pay the money she owes for child maintenance. In that time, she has somehow found the funding for 2 degree courses and has seemingly found enough money to live, eat, rent accommodation and pay for other lifestyle expenses. How they can say she earns less than £5a week and therefore should not pay the minimum amount is absolutely mindboggling.
In the time they have not been able to locate my ex wife (remember, I passed across all details lots of times), we have waged war against Afghanistan and Iraq, bid for, built and held the Olympics, have searched for and found Osama Bin Laden, have held General Elections twice and had 3 Prime Ministers. As an aside, two of my three children have grown up and I now have a Grandson but the CSA have not been able to track down my ex wife who lives in Manchester and who regularly updates her Facebook page.
Never mind, I will send them my usual sarcastic email, will no doubt receive the usual generic reply telling me how much I should get if they can do anything about it, followed by another letter a week later saying sorry, we can’t do anything about it. Good luck to the rest of you. Let’s hope thsi incompetent department is scrapped sooner rather than later.
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You seem to know a lot about your ex wife considering you havent spoken to her in 10 years and if your main source of info is FAKEbook, then its likely a fabrication for the benefit of you stalking her (she probably knows you will be looking at her facebook btw).
You do also know that just because you two broke up, and she has children with you, as a human being she is allowed a roof over her head, and allowed to eat and be warm. If she is on little money then she is likely getting state help with her living costs hence why you get £5 per week.
Shame people cant move on, or allow others to move on because they cant….
Actually Carol, if you read it properly you would see that he doesn’t get £5 per week, he gets nothing. Quite rightly he is also questioning how she can afford the expensive things she does if she is earning so little that £5 per week cannot be paid.
While information gained from Facebook is not legally taken into account, it is frustrating to see a NRP living beyond their CSA assessment. If a person chooses to report details of their life on the internet, I fail to see how an ex seeing this is stalking them.
If you comment on something you would think the least someone could do is read it properly.
I hope you get somewhere with the CSA but don’t worry, I won’t hold my breath.
that’s shocking she made the kids but yet can’t stand up to her responsibilitys. really is shocking. as a mother and my kids stayed with father i know that i would want to help out as much as possible.. chin up maybe csa get fingers out their arses and do something.
have they done searches with dwp and with the inland revenue yet?? if not insist they do also if she is self employed or you suspect she is then ask them to search for businesses in herename nad to get the accounts for it too
Dear me Carol, thank you for your uninspiring and biased comments based around what little I have written to try and retain the dignity in the case surrounding my children.
The information I have listed came from my children via Facebook (I think I have spelt it correctly) not from information I “stalked” myself asI don’t use the site.
My children are the ones who try to maintain contact with her, not I and they tell me she has somehow completed two degrees (2 degrees at University – approx cost £9k?) whilst the CSA tell me that she somehow has less than £5 per week to live on.
For your information, I have moved on. I am now remarried and have no contact with, neither do I want contact with my ex wife. I think if you read my posting properly, you will see that I have a problem with the CSA (isn’t that the idea of a webpage entitled Child Support Agency Hell?) not with the fact that my ex wife can somehow survive on so little apparent funding each week.
If you are a tax payer then you too should have a problem with this, as any benefits I receive as a consequence of her not paying her way are also coming out of your pocket and every other tax payer.
Then again maybe you aren’t tax payer…………..
Best thing to do is ignore the negative comments on here…I got the same..it is either people not reading your story properly or it is a scorned woman or CSA employee commenting..
I know where you stand on this as I am in the same situation..but my ex neglected and abandoned my two little girls,,,she was working for years and supplied work address…home address and got nothing…and i wasnt chasing to be awkward ..i was chasing as csa are happy to take money off me for my son who i am not allowed to see because an ex re married !!
This is the thing about CSA they assume, the NRP also assumes, if he is watching her facebook account why not mail her and ask her to support her children, if she doesnt want to be a mother (some women are not maternal) then nobody can force her, i do find it strange how women have kids then suddenly are not around anymore, maybe there is more to this story than meets the eye,
Maybe more to this story than meets the eye!!! No normal mum walks away from her kids and doesnt bother with them unless something serious had happened to stop her
People ‘walk away’ from their children all the time, just because its a woman in this circumstance doesn’t mean something in particular has happened. If it was a man you wouldn’t be questioning why he’s left
It just makes me question how PWCs are so clued up on their ex’s finances that they can make statements such as the OP has.
Degree courses can be fully funded in certain circumstances.
If she is self employed….good for her, but I know myself after paying for bills etc I am short by a considerable amount let alone be able to afford maintenance, so this could be entirely the case with this nrp, she may genuinely be unable to pay more after other factors are taken into consideration…just because she has house car etc that shes rolling in it, despite apprearences otherwise.
I also notice the slant because she is a woman, she must be somehow more of a bitch to abandon her children than a male nrp…..how do any of you lot KNOW what went on between OP and his ex wife….ffs…
none of us truly do, but no mention of how hes pissed off that shes not in their childrens life (as per usual) its all about her not paying up…
please people…dont get caught up in genders or gender roles or gender battles….everyone involved is getting screwed over, and children are being deprived of a parent, whatever the gender of the nrp.
and Marie…I did read it, infact read it so well I was able to read between the lines….something is not right with this story. Thats just my gut feeling on this. I am entitled to my opinion without a condescending tone from you.
Regards,
@ Carol
Well said luv, at the end of the day as mums ourselves I find it hard to beleive that a woman would leave her children and have nothing to do with them ever again after that, so yes this story is quite hard to stomach
Dear All,
Thank you for all your comments, both supportive and otherwise.
I feel I have run my course with the CSA and will probably not get much further than I already have done in the past, regardless of how I approach the situation.
For those who seem to have differing opinions regarding my situation, I feel I may as well own up and confess to the following.
My ex has never shown the slightest inclination in either seeing the children or seemingly supporting them. Why, I have no idea whatsoever. I have never made it difficult as she has known where we live and there is no legal standing in place that says she cannot, it seems she simply chooses not to regardless of her moral obligations, or perhaps legal ones.
I care not one hoot what she did in the past, neither do I care for her well being now. What is bothering me more than anything is that under current regulations she has an obligation to care for her children, via the CSA, and she simply doesn’t because their inept system states that she has no income when the facts prove otherwise.
What makes it even more ironic is that she works in the child care profession and in fact, whilst still trying to find where she had actually got to when she left, I discovered she was working at another child care centre, looking after the children of others merely a few weeks after she had left her own “home alone” .
Without getting into any more long and boring arguments about my particular case (no doubt with similarities to others), this is a forum for those who are peeved at the actions (or inaction) of the CSA, not a forum to discuss any particular gender, age group, ethnicity or anything else. The particulars of each case are between those concerned, and possibly their legal representatives and should be the subject of discussion in an arena such as this.
Simon – if an NRP is a full time student and not working they will be on a nil assessment for the duration of their course. If your case is on CS2 an NRP’s partner’s income cannot be taken into account for assessment purposes so if your ex is in a new relationship and is being supported by her partner whist she studies the assessment would be nil.
If she is working and paying PAYE the agency will be able to obtain her employer details from HMRC and contact them directly for income details if your ex has not supplied them. They will also be able to issue a Deduction of Earnings Order if she does not pay.
I cannot comment on what the assessment would be if your case is on CS1.
I hope the agency are able to secure valid employment/income details and establish payments for you soon.
Simon:- Do not give up.
Regularly contact the CSA (6 or 12 monthly) and ask for an assessment.
If the NRP is in employment or in receipt of benefits there should not be a nil assessment if your case is on CS2.
If your case is on CS1 there could be a nil assessment due to exempt income being greater than net income.
If you are on CS1 close your case wait 13 weeks and then make a new claim.
CSA should be able to trace employment details through HMRC if they have a NI number.
@ Simon – how many children do you have? The new 2012 scheme is under way and in due course all cases will be moved onto the new scheme – currently only cases where there are 4 or more children to the same NPR and PWC are on the new scheme and the next phase will be cases where there are 3 children. The new scheme is going to be based on gross income and income details will be obtained direct from HMRC
As I just said to another person (PWC) who was a woman, join the facebook groups child support agencies failings and others as you will get no help on here apart from the low lives and idiots who are so biased and think its fine that children are only supported by one parent while the other goes off and has more children / another life and forgets about the children they already have, good luck.
Quote karen; ….you will get no help on here apart from the low lives and idiots who are so biased and think its fine that children are only supported by one parent…
That’s quite a sweeping statement!
I’m sure those of us that advise both NRP’s and PWC really appreciate it.