Why don’t we focus on a child’s emotional support first?
What pisses me off more than anything is everyone banging on about money, money, money, money. WHEN will there be a Child EMOTIONAL support agency???????
No wonder the majority of children from broken families end up at the lower end of society, they just see their split parents constantly fighting. I dont see my boys, apparently as I no longer loved her and didnt want to live with her anymore I was suddenly a phedophile, with 7 cops at the door checking my computer, phone and anything else with memory capability, and after wasting police time they were returned to me.
So just be careful guys, the girl who will do anything for you when you meet her will do anything against you if/when you split, even using the children as a lever, saddens me when one parents need for power and spite is greater than a child/children’s need for a father.
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Because skanks are cunts
There are parents and there are people with custody of children. The latter generally being greedy, vindictive and twisted evil bitches.
because this government encourages this practice, sets this precedent and those that can benefit from this one sided money driven system….do..
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Unfortunately emotional support does not put food in children’s mouths, clothes on their backs and a roof over their heads!!!!! When both parents accept that it is BOTH their responsibility to feed, clothe, house and emotionally support their children then life would be so much more easy and help help the children! Quite simple really!
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Why is it… that when a couple are together they spend there earnings ect on there kids on a daily basis as a family. unit… but soon as they separate and the other half being a man or women who’s left holding the kids when they ask for support there classed as money grabbing bints?? so if I get this right… when a parent separates with there ex again a father or mother who’s left holding the kid they should basicly say ok off u go ur kid will be fine we dnt need ur support u move on and breed more kids that u will dump again for the nxt women? and so on and so on. Why do people get cussed when the csa take money from the mother or father for the child that’s left with the other parent… surely it’s 1 support to the child they made kids ain’t free… 2 a lesson that kids can’t just be bred and left behind
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Most parents willingly pay up. ! It’s the greedy selfish parent who uses the children who need sorting i.e. Not allowing contact yet still taking the monies .
Thing is Sarah Louise white some of us don’t walk out on our children I would quite happily have my son full time and the amount alot of us pay doesn’t even go on the child I would be happy to pay more if a mother could produce a receipt to show exactly how much they spend on the child but I support my son the best way I can
The thing is David how does a parent show recietes of how much electric a child has used? Gas it’s used food it’s eaten. Reciets ain’t always about clothes and shoes it’s day to day living and expenses towards the child??
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Exactly….always classed as money grabbing!!! The money the fathers pay are for the kids and their hobbies or bills etc to keep the roof over their heads. Its the parents that should show they care not the money
Laura we all have pride. However fathers or mothers shouldnt get away with not paying. Im sure we can all support ourselves however nrps should also support thier kids
What’s an NRPP?
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Thing is Sarah we all have to live the csa money is not for gas and electric etc it’s for the child not the whole house I pay 230 a month ur telling me a child doesn’t go.through that in food cloths etc so receipts can be produced I haven’t got a problem with paying I just think it should be justified
Charlotte I ain’t saying all parents are money grabbers but u have to agree alot of parents are my sole purpose in life is to support my son in any way I can financially and mentally u know he is my world Charlotte I will always do the best I can for him
No father would deny supporting their children. The problem is greedy, spiteful vindictive mothers and the CSA that do not allow for the fact that the working NRP has bills to pay and would like to also provide for their children when they are their care too. We do not have the luxury of child benefit, child tax credit and all our rent and council tax being paid for. And lots of us NRPs only get 2 days out of 14 when we know for a fact our children are not being brainwashed into hating us by PWC.
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Jason my son isn’t brain washed by any means. He will know the truth when he is older about his mum and dads marriage breakdown. The pwc also has bills to pay. I dont have any help as im a working class citizen. If a nrp wants more contact then people have to go to court and get that stated. David no onw said anything about the way you look after your son on here. Its about time you stopped moaning about how much you pay and get on with it. Im sure you dont moan about how much your wife and new son costs…. You have got to suppprt the child financially weather the nrp likes it or not unfortunately
Jason I only get to see my son 2 days in 14 I don’t care if my son is brain washed in hating me because I keep every bit of evidence to show him when he older and Charlotte I try and be nice and it just gets thrown in my face I.never moan about how much I pay
David Yeomans did u just say ur money is not got gas and electric and bills ect? Seriously ? Ud expect ur child to happily live on the streets no roof over there heads no lights to see no gas to cook no water to drink r u even serious to think that these basic things are free cos I know mine isnt my three month old son goes thru atleast 20-30 pounds electric alone a week! How u wonder? His baby swing hammers the electric supply. His baby monitors for his safety are on 12 hrs of the day.. his sterilizer is used 3x daily to ensure his hygiene the kettle is boiled 3-6 times a day to meet guidelines of fresh feeds.: the lights that run the house so he’s not sat in a dark room . Hmm what else oh the fridge that holds his creams and medicines also generate electric all these consist of the useage a three month old baby uses on a daily basis. Some people then think well don’t people get benefits? Tax credits ? Yes people get them but what is tax credits aimed at ? Aimed at a viable amount daily for food and only food only should that money be used for.. if that’s the case who pays for the household bills? Who pays for equipment to meet the child’s milestones and development.. who then provides clothes on there backs? Who then buys essential baby items nappys wipes medicines creams.. it’s a simple brake down of automatic basics as an example that’s the basics on a minimum of which all of that in life doesn’t come for free u pay 230 did u say a month for ur child ? If I totted up the bill like I said my 3 month old uses a month I’d say electric milk nappies and wipes just them alone simply gets me to 200 so on top there is all the added stuff he needs medicines clothes transport bk and forth to gps . Hospitals vaccinations checkups effect the list could to on forever would dread to list what essentials my 1 yr old goes thru.. and I receive 35 pounds a week for the two of them from the csa this week alone before bills my sons rocker chair cost 53 pounds of which I bought one each for my kids to be fair that’s 106 down before bills a simple chair these things aint free in life nither are children to raise. Yes I dont agree when the csa take a lump sum and leave the father with nothing to live on attal.. but from reading on this page people that are having lump sums taken are those that thought they could dodge or not pay or got away with not supporting the child for so long that it eventually caught up with them as a backpay? Then that is when they come and complain all the why should I have to pay this much how can they take this much and leave me with nothing some kids only get as little as 5 pounds a week csa infact I have a friend that gets 1.50p a week per child ao 4.50. A week these days that wouldn’t even buy a punnit of grapes per child . The new systam that has taken over now the CMS instead of the CSA no longer to for direct deductions from the nrp wages they now with full communication give them he benifit of the doubt to pay directly to the mother it’s encouraged to the mothers side also as iv had the phone call about it but when a person lies there not working this and that thinking it’s a game I’m not then suprised that they go strait to deduction of earnings orders ? Iv never been on a bad side of the csa i receive for my two younger sons thru them and I happily pay for my older son who stays with his father they ask for 5 pounds a week I pay 30-40 weekly not becos I should stick to the basis what csa told me but because as a mother I know 5 pounds a week won’t get my son nothing from experience on top I provide him with clothes and toys and take him out on family trips and holidays. So iv seen both sides of the csa everybody has there own experiences! Mine as far as I know isnt a bad one
People.point exactly money.grabbers like Sarah u just quoted alot of luxury get a job
Where did I state I didn’t work David ? Never once did I say I’m on the dole ? I work to give my kids the best surely 40 quid dole money couldn’t buy my kids luxurys I gues u seeing me buy-in my sons chairs a luxury am afraid I take on board my children’s development and wont have my 1 yr old still sit in a baby bouncer nor will I alow them to sit on the floor like dogs ??? So again what’s the luxery ur talking about that I’m provideing oh and also yet again where did I state anything was about me me me ?
Clothes a luxury? Food? Gas? Electric? Developmental toys?
Or Maby ur on about the holiday? Mate a holiday to me and my kids is to Blackpool 25 mins away hardly a luxery ? Nither is taking my kids to the museaum or the sealife center things that cost nothing !
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Well said sarah. Davids son has special needs aswell (im the mother) so he costs more than any other child due to hospital trips and appointments etc. My son needed a new car seat. One that helped in getting him in and out the car easier that was £250. So davids money didnt even cover that!!! So I also provide for my son. David just thinks that by picking his son up every fortnight rhat he is dad of the year!!! Completely forgets about my sons medical needs etc as he doesnt accept the needs and support his son needs. Like I said previously my son will know the true extent of what things are really like.
Sarah im lucky this year. Normally my holidays are in cornwall staying with family. My parents have paid for me and my 3 kids to go abroad for 3 weeks with them!!!
Charlotte you need to get off your high horse! You make out your the perfect mother when your quite clearly not!
Can’t aimee and david yeomans read? You have all medical reports about my sons health. Clear denial on your part. Dont tell me how to be a mother. Im far betret mother than you will ever be. What about my sons nursery review david had on monday….clearly didn’t read that about how delayed he is
But don’t a majority of pwcs get child benefit, child tax credits and any other benefit they might be entitled to help with household costs? Why is this never recognised or counted in an arguement? Child support should be means tested from both sides then it cuts out all the crap.
I’m a pwc with 2 children who gets no help what so ever from my ex (only seen his daughter once at 3 months old, she’s now 10!) but I’d rather have his emotional support with the children, which i know will never happen and thankfully they have a great stepdad because we’ve managed okay financially…and all I’d want realistically from him is birthday cards, xmas cards etc, I do not need him to pay my utility bills!
Sarah Louise White on July 22nd, 2014 5:02 pm
Why is it… that when a couple are together they spend there earnings ect on there kids on a daily basis as a family. unit… but soon as they separate and the other half being a man or women who’s left holding the kids when they ask for support there classed as money grabbing bints?? so if I get this right… when a parent separates with there ex again a father or mother who’s left holding the kid they should basicly say ok off u go ur kid will be fine we dnt need ur support u move on and breed more kids that u will dump again for the nxt women? and so on and so on. Why do people get cussed when the csa take money from the mother or father for the child that’s left with the other parent… surely it’s 1 support to the child they made kids ain’t free… 2 a lesson that kids can’t just be bred and left behind
This is my view on the subject Sarah Louise white.
When the slut of an ex WALKS out from a supporting husband/ father BECAUSE she don’t want him anymore due to her cyberwhoring with another guy and they get together and decide to push me out of the picture and take my daughter with them to all live happily ever after in their own nest. Both the slut and the prick the slut is banging now are both working. Then I say fuck them both and why the hell should I be milked of hundreds of pounds each month for a daughter taken away from me by her slut mother,to instead be brought up by her new cock.
Why should I top up their salaries. THEY should be responsible for my daughter now. THEY both wanted her, I had NO say in the matter but is expected to pay. IF I want to spend money on my daughter for luxury items and holidays or just pocket money? That should be MY perogative given the circumstances she was taken away from me by her slut of a mother who by the way walked after being married for just 9 months
Call me old fashioned,but when a wife and her lover goes out of their way to break up a father and daughter family life, then they should be responsible for that child’s everyday needs. it fucks me off beyond believe that all I do ( the mug of an ex) is subsidise their incomes. I am the ATM machine and my daughter is their cash cow.
It’s as simple as that.
Gonk
Gonk.
Sarah Louise white……MY MONEY should be spent on MY child ALL100% of it
NOT on utiility bills. CM is for the kids, MY SKANK EX AND HER NEW COCK should pay the bills and not subsidise them with MY money intended for MY daughter
I resent with a passion,being bled £300 each month straight into her bin and having NO FUCKING say in it. The arshole she with is laughing his cock off.
This is one of Many reasons why this agency is not fair and should be means tested.
Why the fuck should I prop up their household and try keeping my own house in order and all because the slut couldn’t keep her legs closed….it’s a fucking joke but only those 2 c**ts are laughting.
Gonk
Sarah…you be bloody thinking ” here’s a pissed,angry,bitter Nrp who don’t want to pay for his kid. You couldn’t be MORE wrong.
This Nrp like most others HAVE no problems with paying for our kids. WE have every right to be angry about how it’s paid to the ex and having NO say how or even if ,it is actually spent on our kids.
That’s what needles the vast majority of dads on here. My own personal feeling about having to pay this is made even worse by the fact my ex has another daughter whom I brought up from 18months old until she was 8 and with NO help whatsoever from her father, but my skank ex comes after ME for cm for my daughter but leaves the OTHER father alone…PMSL ….WTF is that all about….anyone care to work out why I am angry and bitter?
Gonk
Charlotte Rosevear on July 23rd, 2014 1:30 am
Jason my son isn’t brain washed by any means. He will know the truth when he is older about his mum and dads marriage breakdown. The pwc also has bills to pay. I dont have any help as im a working class citizen. If a nrp wants more contact then people have to go to court and get that stated. David no onw said anything about the way you look after your son on here. Its about time you stopped moaning about how much you pay and get on with it. Im sure you dont moan about how much your wife and new son costs…. You have got to suppprt the child financially weather the nrp likes it or not unfortunately
A bitter pill to swallow when you know your money is just topping up an ex’s salary on top of all the other benefits she gets and including her working partner.
In principal you are right Charlotte, in practice you talk bollocks.
Gonk
Also easy for you Charlotte to spew garbage about us moaning about what we have to pay…very easy coming from the lips of someone not screwed for it or having no say,how it’s spent. You think it’s easy to just get on with it Charlotte? If the poor bastard on bread line or less, but then by the your anology and the CSA for that matter..neither of you give a shit.
Gonk
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Charlotte….no ones a perfect mother but saying you’re a better mum than someone else, your ex’s new wife in this instance, makes you sound bitter and childish.
We all parent differently and as long as there is no abuse with a child(ren) then what’s the issue?
Do you want a medal for being a mother, my son is also delayed and I get on with it, he also has bad temper spats, I get on with it…you sound just like my husbands ex who only ever wanted to discuss their children to get at me, never wanted to before he met me, we’ve had it all from her until dr told us that one of the kids conditions he supposedly had wasn’t as bad as she made it out to be, never understood why she felt the need to belittle me as I never dissed her but she felt compelled to hurt me with my own children and even got her children to hurt my children.
Stop with the games and think of the damage it does to the kids. Don’t say negative things about each other especially not on an open forum for all to see, some things are best left in private.
Charlotte, also, why should any one have to go to court to apply for more contact? What gives you the right to play God?
If you’re moaning your ex doesn’t know ‘ your’ son’s needs then surely this lies with you as you will not allow your ex more contact? He has to apply for it, why can’t he just ask you or is that too difficult? Is he abusive, an alcholic, an addict? Your son does not need to know any details of why your marriage broke down, at the end of the day that’s still his dad and if it didn’t work then it didn’t work, do not put all that onto a child…he has ended it with you, not his child but sounds to me you want to beat your ex with it!
Then you say his share of money doesn’t cover costs….but surely it must help, how much is ever enough, doesn’t your ex need to live as well? Try having nothing, no money or no help…I would love my ex to want his children, but sadly he doesn’t and I get on with it because ultimately I made my choice in becoming a mother and do not praise in doing so.
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