Why doesn’t the CSA do anything about fathers who refuse to pay?
I have raised my 17 year old without his father for the past 15 years. When I first split with his father I contacted the CSA for child maintenance. When I did his father who was then in Full Time Employment gave up his job to become a self employed Taxi driver! Despite years of letters to and from the CSA child maintenance was never paid because the father apparently didn’t earn enough.
Through the years he was living with his then girlfriend and claimed that they didn’t live together. I attended a tribunal with the CSA with factual information regarding his business website etc but again no maintenance was apparently due. When he got married to his girlfriend I contacted the CSA again and by this time as a couple they had 2 beauty salons and a kitchen and bedroom business (picture of the work van with graphics of the business was also submitted to the CSA) but again no maintenance was paid.
Approximately 1.5 years ago I contacted the CSA again to tell them that they now owned a 4th business a Chip Shop and went through all the businesses again with them. I asked them why did they not contact the father to find out why he did not report his change of circumstances as that is their job to do that. Again I was told that maintenance was still £0.00. Every letter I recieved from the CSA stated that £0.00 was due. However after I received a letter from the CSA stating that my child was no longer eligible for child maintenance I started receiving ARREAR payments of £40.00 per month!! Why was this being paid now and not at the time when maintenance was due!
Now after 15 years on raising my son he went to live with his father after getting involved in Drink and drugs. Now after 8 months I have received a call from the CSA for child maintenance from me!! My son is in receipt of payment for attending a jobskills course 3 days a week. The CSA and his father are an absolute joke.
I have no problem paying for my son as I have done for 17 years of his life but when someone has played the system for 15 years without paying and now they want maintenance is an absolute disgrace!! How can this happen, and why should maintenance be paid until my son is 20 years old and is being paid a training wage especially when I received a letter from the CSA stating he was no longer eligble and also I haven’t received child benefit in over 1 year.
The now resident father has 4 businesses, goes on a few holidays as year, moved to a larger detached house, drives a convertible car and has the cheek to ask for maintenance!!
Why does the CSA not live in the real world and seek out the truth when it comes to absent parents and their earnings. Surely the case should have changed once they got married and had all of these businesses but the CSA did nothing!! How can they say they are there to seek and enforce maintenance from a non-resident parent when in reality they do absolutely nothing!!!
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Fair play to the guy for dodging the scum !!
Good for him, managing to avoid the CSA SCUM
Oh seriously! It’s not the CSA he’s avoiding. It’s his responsibilities in contributing to HIS child’s upbringing. Your comments are a joke, you do not father a child and then decide because you don’t like CSA that you don’t bother helping to raise them. No wonder so many non resident parents are being chased for financial support with attitudes like that. An absolute disgrace.
Abi
You need to wake up….not condoning any father for not paying for his kids but the point Peter and Steve are trying to make is the CSA is totally unfair and biased towards the mother. In a lot of cases the mother gets all the bloody help and support from the state cash machine and use the kids as a ATM machine as well. That’s what’s a disgrace. And he has no say on how and even if that money is actually spent on his kid/s. that’s a bloody disgrace. A father gets no help whatsoever…sweet fuck all….just pay up,he is not assessed on his ability to pay an amount he can afford after all his essential outgoings and living cost. The CSA do not consider a Nrp has having any outgoings.his train fair to work is considered disposable income even tho it’s essential in order to pay this filth called the CSA. In the CSA’s own words ” it’s his/her choice if he/she takes a job that takes them too far away from home” that’s what’s such a discrace.the CSA has no interest in the welfare of the kids only the treasury. Abi you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.the point Steve and Peter are making is….these people are scum to NRP’s AND MAYBE that’s why this man is in hiding from them,if you knows they will not be fair with him..just hound him for more and more cash.And tell me this Abi , why is it just HIS responsibility to contribute to his child’s upbringing when it took 2 people to make the child. Where is the mothers contribution when she gets benefit hand outs AND in a lot of cases has a full time working partner..my ex for example.never worked a full days work ever,lived on hands out from the tax payer,has a full time working partner but claims benefits for a single mother,screws me for hundreds of pounds each month because this corrupt organization says it can,and for a child she took away from me. So tell me Abi where does she contribute financially ?
Abi..I’m not alone on my thoughts about the CSA and some of the mothers it it works for..you will soon read more negative post (as you may read them so ) because of your reply to the poster.
Gonk
Another scenario for you Abi
If you were in a relationship with a man who’s ex is robbing him dry every month with full support from this scum called the CSA, and you have your own brood to feed and clothe and his ex gets more put into her benefit booty than he has little left to support you? Would you still have the same attitude? I think not.
Easy to comment on here when you are not effected by this filth.
Gonk
Even with a 50/50 shared care order fathers are still obliged to pay the pwc. Why? It seems that the non-resident parents pay twice – once when he has the children residing with him and again when they are residing with their mother.
Although some mothers agree to split the child benefit etc when there are two children, the majority don’t. They just line their pockets at the expense of the nrp.
This is for Abi.
Do you know how many fathers were hounded by the CSA so much the only the option but to takee their own life.
Well I will tell you here and now it stands at over sixty.
look up CSA Blood on their hands.
And see for your self.
Now think about this long and hard.
Think How you would tell the children who no longer have a fatrher…tell them your story, tell them it is “A Joke” and see if they are laughing.
The system is corrupt, the CSA tell blatant lies.
The truth is the CSA are only intersted in one thing, and that is clawing back money that Has been paid to the residant parent with care, nine times out of ten the mother!
Why do you think the CSA has gone from the CSA to the CMEC and is now back under the control of the Secretery of stae.
so go and cry on their shoulders!
Why should I pay a lieng mother who lives on state handouts with her new boy friend who is living off his own disability benefit payments with two children of his own.
I only get to see my son when his mother who has a history of mental illnes feels like it and my son is now under the care of social services. there is only one joker here Abi!
I wil be fighting the CSA all the way to the European Court of Human Rights and have been threatend with posible prison sentence.
Are YOU prepaired to go to prison Abi?
I have gone to my MP, the CSA have admited that it has all been their mistake,
And I have forced them to admit to me two days ago that the money will NOT go to my Sons mother they will take out an amount of money that they refuse to discus with me!
look up the woman who was sent to prison for theft because she had her own financial problems, in Portsmouth CSA, as I recal.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/csathelawanditsfailings/ if you want advice not abuse try this site
To M J Campbell
Very very well said mate. So Abi, there are far more fathers who’s lives are turned into misery by the CSA and ex’s.
I am bitterly opposed to this government agency dictating to me how I WILL pay for my daughter whom the mother took from me,having no say on how or even if that money is actually spent on my daughter.Knowing it,instead tops up her benefit booty and her partners full time paid salary.knowing about her track record for benefit fraud in the past where she moved to Germany but still claimed rent money to the tune of £650 pcm for 9 months from Wycombe district council,she is almost certainly claiming as a single parent now.why else will she not even give me an address where my daughter is living,simple,she knows I will shop her for another benefit fraud.
She gets her council tax all paid for as well as child tax credits for all she has to work for is 16 poxy hours a week.its a fucking joke. She’s laughing at me and the tax payer.she has more disposable income than me.how is right or fair that the mother can claim all this and yet the Nrp gets sweet fuck all in the way of help.
How the hell can a system allow a mother to carry on claiming benefits when proof of the kids working full time is shoved under the CSA’s noses,there excuse,not under our remit to investigate poss fraud,there reason for the excuse…easy….they can carry on legally robbing a Nrp for money that’s not theirs because the arse of a law says it can whilst the mother is claiming benefits…let’s face it…why would it do anything constructive to help the Nrp…..we pay their wages so why rock the money Boat and risk losing it over the side.
Gonk
Abi
“you do not father a child and then decide because you don’t like the csa that you don’t bother helping to raise them”
We did not father a child because of the CSA….god forbid that was a condition before it was born to sign your life away with the CSA I case the mother decided to dump you….LOL……the human race would die
Your wording makes it sound as if Nrp has to sign a legally binding document telling him he has to pay CSA if he has a child
Gonk
Can I just say confirm for everyone that I have worked fofrom the time I was on my own with my son and raising my son on money that was earned and never claimed benefits. The father of my son has played the system for years to avoid paying Child Support. I cannot believe that some comments on here are condoning this man for dodging the CSA!!
It does take 2 to bring a child into this world and it should take 2 to pay and raise the raise not left to just one. It takes a real man to accept financial responsibilty of their child!!
In the end after years of fighting with the CSA over child support from the father I gave up and left it at that. I felt that as you can’t miss what you don’t have and my son never went without. This was the case for almost 7 years until now when the child moved in with his father 8 months ago! I have absolutely no problem paying for my son as I have done for 17 years, but with his father having outstanding arrears of over £700. its a joke that they now come after me. However, I have gave the CSA what info they are looking for as I do not intend to hide away from my responsibilites like some Non Resident Parents do and will continue to pay for my son. Not all mothers want or need the CSA money but it is a matter of principal. My son was wanted by both parents and was not a mistake caused by a drunken night or some other scenario! So why should I be the only one who hasn’t neglected my parental responsibilities and finacially catered for my child!!
Men or women who hide away or play the system should be ashamed of themselves – its their child too!!
To Elaine
I agree with you elaine al bar the second paragraph.
Yes it takes 2 to bring the child into the world but it’s not 2 that pay when it comes to the CSA…it’s just the Nrp…the pwc gets all the benefits to help her pay her half.what help does the Nrp get…ZERO. None of us moaning on this site is condoning the dead beats that avoid paying for their kids…we are against the way we are treated by this scum and made to look like criminals…I am not an ABSENT parent as the CSA branded me…my wife walked out of my life and took my little girl with her.
Another thing Elaine,you speak about both parents paying their way…my ex gets all the handouts under the sun AND she has. Full time working partner bringing in the bacon as well.so how’s it fair she gets all that financial help and I get jack shit.
Gonk
And yes….I’m my books when a mother walks out of a husband and fathers life for another man…sobeit……IT’S HIS JOB TO SUPPORT HER AND MY KID…HE WANTED MY FAMILY…SO PAY FOR THEM….I WILL TREAT MY DAUGHTER TO OTHER THINGS OF HER AND MY CHOICE…..THE EX DIDN’T WANT ME BUT HELL SHE IS MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE MY MONEY ON TOP OF HER NEW PARTNERS SALARY
Gonk
After reading most of them on here im the other way around.
My son ( 9yrs) lives with me court , all correct im the main parent with care.
I went through CSA to keep things above board. about 5 yreas ago.
Now ex partner run off with some one else and has 2 other kids living with her.
long story short im owed approx. £2800 errors and last payment was over 12 moths ago. as she says she’s not going to work and her new partner is self employed so CSA say there is nothing they can do until she works.
What a load of Rubbish CSA are. What about all this sending bailiffs ect. round blah blah…. also CSA made a big muck up when I asked for my accounts details breakdown and the data they have on me ( as they also include her data ) tut CSA data protection.
Ontop of that I pay everything for my son and he goes to she her on 1/2 split school hols. She lives up north I live south. Shes also messing with his head emotionally which is not good and ontop of all that I give her that little bit of extra days with him and collect him approx. half way to help.. ( again my expense) so enough is enough now.
here we go again, more people needing help and getting low lifes giving advice! lol
join the facebook group child support agencies failings for advice and support as you will get none here unfortunately, which is such a shame as this site is now becoming a laughing stock and of no real value, such a shame.
I cannot believe some of the bitter twisted comments on this page ! I believe both parents raise a child including financially , be it apart or separated.
My girls get none of this from my ex and he was the one who cheated and left his family , my now husband has a son with another lady who will not let him see his son .Before any one comments he’s done nothing wrong she just won’t let him see him , she told him because he can’t love her then he can’t see his son ! Every month his Csa leaves our bank , we both work and I’m happy to do this as I believe if you bring a child into thus world you provide for them .
My ex husband however pays zilch he has a huge detached house a Porsche a works van (his own company) and two other cars , he sees my girls once a fortnight his choice not mine I would let him see them more but he doesn’t want this .
The thing is it’s not just men paying Csa it’s women also and it’s seems self employment is a way out of paying your responsibilities . We all have different scenarios and hurling abuse at others scenarios is just stupid , we are all entitled to our opinion and comments , just lets not become bitter and twisted about our own exes and stop branding each other with our exes shit sticks ! Good luck to you all and hope you all solve your problems . Look at it this way , your kids love both parents unconditionally they know who raises them every day , who pays for trips , lunch money even a packet of sweeties be proud of who and how you raise your kids if the nrp doesn’t provide for them…. tough , know you’ve done this single handedly or with your new spouse who takes on your ex hubby or ex wife .
So, what your saying is that for 20years you HARRASSED somebody else constantly via proxy instead of concentrating on building a new life you tried to intefere with your ex’s instead
And now – you realise that you shouldnt have ditched that guy because he’s made his way in the world whilst you are stuck in the past and struggling – well BOO HOO!
you get no sympathy from me! idiot
To WIJJIKA
Who are you referring to in your post?