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I wonder if you have ever in the last 14 years thought about the reason why your ex leaves employment when CSA catch up with him? A lot of NRP’s are pushed into cold hard poverty by the extortionate amounts that the CSA calculate must be paid – especially if they have second families to support. In alot of cases when the CSA has taken their chunk of NRPs wages there is nothing left to live on and there you have it in a nutshell. The government has made it so, that NRPS are better off on benefits than working for a living when they actually come out with less than they could potentially get on the dole.
In my opinion the government should decide a blanket figure that it takes to raise a child and apply this to all CSA cases, regardless of income. This may dissuade PWC’s from applying to the CSA in the first place if they could get more money via a more fair and privately agreed agreement between both parties (where the Dad could decide to pay more than the basic if he chooses) I think maybe higher rate tax payers NRP’s should be assessed differently and made to pay more, but the average Joe on the street should be given the opportunity to still have a life, make a life and enjoy it!
Why is it that the Dad cannot benefit from working overtime or taking a second job to help meet CSA payments? As they then get reassessed and have to pay more CSA rendering it pointless and still living on the poverty line, theres nothing you can do to help yourself at all, you earn more – they take more – only your first child and your ex benefit from you working yourself into the ground, what about the second, third and fourth child? What about them? Is it right they suffer as the first born has priority? Would you be comfortable with the fact that your child is eating/clothed/warm when, in effect, another child may be paying the price for this? Sometimes you have to take all circumstance into account and things may not always be black and white as you think, talk to your ex and maybe settle on a figure that is FAIR, not take him to the cleaners to get all you can because the government says you can.
Here’s an idea …. Get a job!
@ corryn
You say it all and very very well. Fantastic analogy and summing up of this vile organisation.
gonk
Well I say to that man WELL DONE! the fact that 99% of the time they contact the csa when the man moved on with his life and found someone else. some women want to collect money but refuse visitation and spending time with the kids. csa can’t help you with that but they want to collect money. so well done this guy 4 more yrs to go and you’re free at last.
Thankyou Gonk man!
Wouldnt it be interesting to find out just how much the PWC spends on the child/children on a monthly basis and compare it to the NRP payment. They should have to prove where this money goes and being spent and if they refuse money stops. Maybe the CSA might not be as popular if the money couldnt be spent on themselves, no incentive for personal gain, as they wouldnt benefit. I also think that it shouldnt be called CSA, as the NRP is still supporting the ex which greedily accepts this help, what about calling it Ex-Leech support!
@ corryn
Indeed,this is one of the main reasons I despise this agency with a passion. It does not hold the pwc to account and ask for evidence/ proof that the money robbed from me each month is actually spent on my daughter. It just does not care.
I’m forced to pay my ex £320 a month for my daughter and I am not entitled to ask any questions….just hand it over…makes my blood boil to know that she is in no way spending that money entirely on my daughter, but instead only a small percent of it is whilst the rest subsidices her benefit booty and her partners income, and her other daughter, who’s father by the way pays no CSA, sweet f**k all.
I object bitterly to topping up their household each month and all because the mother could not keep her legs closed to other men and then takes my daughter away……this legal robbery each month is my reward for her wrong doings…..bitch!!!!
Gonk
I first became involved with the CSA 12 years ago when I approached them as my ex wife wouldn’t sign for any money that I wanted to give her for our 4 children. Immediately, even though I contacted them, they treated me like a common criminal. They also took 18 months to arrive at a figure that they plucked out of thin air, and at this point they also told me that I owed nearly £4,000 which I hadn’t realised was accruing whilst they ambled along aimlessly. During this time I telephoned constantly for updates only to have to explain my circumstances from the start each time because my file never seemed to get updated. During this time I met & married my new wife and with her support began to better myself through hard work, advancing up the ladder which meant an increase in salary.
Each time I got a raise, ex wife got me reassessed. She only returned to work 3 years ago, for the first time since 1993, when the Government changed it’s laws regarding parents losing benefits if they didn’t return to work when the youngest child reaches 11. Roll on to this year and I got the chance to work in Brazil along with my wife. We’ve been here 2 months and guess what? Yes, reassessment again and as I’m paid out of the UK the CSA will be able to take directly from my employer £16,000 p.a. This is more than my ex’s salary for God’s sake! How can this be right that I work to better myself, provide myself with a pension pot and she can just continue to cream off the top of my wages whilst choosing to only work part time so as not to affect her benefits! Is this actually allowed under EU law? To make matters feel worse only 1 of our 4 children is of school age with the other 3 having nothing to do with me due to the clever manipulation of their Mother.
Why do I bother trying to get on with my life? Is there a point?
you know being a dad I could never stand back and watch my kids do without , reading some of the above some need taken out to a quiet lane and disposed of . Bottom line is these are your kids and shouldn’t need a government agency chasing you , and if you owe money pay it from the start , you know it’s not hard to work it out . No simpathy for these dead beats who spend more time avoiding there responsibility……. As for the child support lol , if you could call it that , as they spend more time looking into helping these dead beats avoid payments while
asking the resident parent to take cuts ….. As it stands the child support system is un fit for purpose charging resident parents to chase after money they seem never to get , it’s about time a rocket was put into this department rather than having rockets that haven’t a bloody clue in how their own system works … oh and as for what the resident parent spends it on , well you lot don’t have a say , now do you . Pay it if your a parent who cares .