The CSA is the sponsored single motherhood association

August 14, 2013

My Lazy bone idle used me for a baby then pursued her planned career of benefits and maintenance to continue the avoidance of having to work for a living that she had been doing for years previous under the guise of having chronic fatigue syndrome and a mysterious fake heart condition. She doesn’t let me see my daughter for no reason other than spite, abuses the system, contributes nothing to society , never will, and even is audacious enough to think she is middle class and righteous , with endless criticism of others in society .

Mothers who got a raw deal, I feel for you , and the Csa helps you which is good. But the Csa solves one group of problems and creates a whole new segment of unjust society for others which is worse. The Csa literally makes broken homes pay for lazy bitter mothers. Children and nrp’s pay a high price so the few good mothers can get financial help. So enjoy your benefits where they are just, because for everyone of you there are many more suffering so you can have a free ride. The Csa is morally unjust, 15% is too much, and we now have a society of broken homes as a result . Children suffer because of this more than before the Csa. What a disgrace.

Leaving the UK is the only answer, and mothers who think I shouldn’t should remember they do not own the moral high ground here, most of them are the lazy scummers who created this situation.

Comments

  • Bella says:

    Couldn’t agree more. I work 12-14 hours days, 5 days a week to pay our bills because my partner has to give most of his money to his lazy ex ‘for their 2 kids’ (but really for her drugs and booze). He’s self employed and they assess him on his last tax year, so even though work has dried up and he’s only bringing in £129 per week they want £378 per month leaving him a hefty £39 per week for the mortgage, bills, car payments – and even a joint debt she left him with (but they won’t chase her for her half because she’s on full benefits).

    The kids turn up form weekends and overnight stays with just the clothes they stand up in, even for 5 day holidays, so i buy all of their clothes, shoes, toys etc.

    All the while she’s swanning about going for lunch, going out every other week night getting drunk, shopping etc. She gets full benefits, child support, council tax relief etc. She could work fullt time – we have the kids 2 nights per week and her mum has them at least 3. She’s just too lazy and has decided to make a career of scrounging.

    We’ve tuoyed with the idea of him giving up trying to bring jobs in and go on the dole just so the CSA stop screwing him over but he loves his job so it’s really unfair.

    People in this country complain about the welfare system discouraging people from working – in my opinion the CSA is far worse, it’s creating a generation of lazy, scrounging women who make a career out of popping out kids then demanding payment for it. They give them so much money as a reward that they can afford to lounge about at home, which by default makes them elibable for state full benefits!!!! it’s ludicruous.

    No money? No motivation to go to work? Call the CSA and they’ll help you steal all the hard earned money from some poor man!

  • Sally says:

    Well said Bella – for one successful CSA story (i.e. the innocent person being treated fairly) there are a thousand failures…. my partner became a student to avoid the CSA and his ex and all assets are in my name… that limits what they can do to us… but i’m sure they will come up with ‘additional legislation’ to try to get money from us….

    @ Mr Andy – you would be surprised at just how many women do that and then try to play the victim. those women should be charged and fined for entrapment… their punishment should be to provide financial support to the child alone and for ‘fathers name’ on the birth certificat it should state unknown (entrapment)… let the shameful mothers act be recorded for the child to see…..

  • John says:

    The CSA and politicians interfere with parents private lives and are causing more harm than doing any good whatsoever.

    The CSA system subscribes to benefit cheats, using flawed legislation, that no non resident parents have not consented to, or given permission for the CSA/government to impose made up/claptrap statute law, that is not common law.

    Important matters involving children belong in the courts with professional, qualified lawyers, and not ‘pen-pushing’ grade 1 office staff.

    My ex, ably assisted by the CSA, has creamed the benefit system, by providing false information regarding her circumstances, income and hours of work. Especially, self assessment tax returns. Hidden money in relatives accounts etc etc.

    Keep all paperwork as evidence for when the system is exposed as being criminal, and then we will all sue the ar-e off them!

  • brett says:

    Very true comments from Bella and Sally. Bella are you new to CSA Hell ?
    I got stitched up by the type of woman mentioned in the post and paying a lot more as I’m on CSA1 rules.
    The whole CSA system has totally messed my life up, allowing a pond life woman who has always claimed benefits and never done a day’s work in her life to ponce off me for 20 years.

  • Sally says:

    @ Brett… And the worst part of what you have said is that our government encourage woman like that…. It’s disgusting!!

  • brett says:

    I agree Sally, but the Labour government under Blair and Brown gave the CSA new powers and the Tories have allowed it to continue.

  • Bella says:

    @ Brett Yes I’m new to CSA Hell, although not the hell of the CSA! We went to court in 2010 to prove my partner wasn’t £10,000 in arrears like they claimed – he was ruled to only owe £700! We took his ex to court because she wouldn’t give him any access and spent £3,000 to win what he was entitled to. Now the CSA have come up with £1,000 of arrears because the PWC lied that we didn’t have the kids on our court ordered days. Why would we pay for court then not have them?! Apparently texts arranging drop offs are not considered proof, only her word.

    They want him to pay £378 per month even though he’s self employed and has struggled for much work since last December.

    And that’s the short version ;o)

    Of course his ex is on full benefits, despite being convicted of benefit fraud before (are there no rules when it comes to hand outs?!) who lives to make our lives hell in any way she can! Standard.

    I have never in my life come across such an incompetent, biased organisation.

  • Bella says:

    I should point out I love my step-kids more than anything and pay for clothes, shoes, holidays, toys, trips out etc when they are with us. If I thought they would benefit from child support payments or were losing out I’d hand over cash in an envelope myself.

    They don’t see any of it though, her mum buys all their clothes and has them on half of her days. She spends our payments on premium vodka, creosote (allegedly its fake tan) and and endless parade of outfits that should be a size bigger!

    On top of that she mentally abuses them.

    And yet the CSA take her side regardless of the facts and are actually hostile to us in every call. I once got lectured about how men should take responsibility for there children by a bitter sounding Scottish woman when I rang up to MAKE A PAYMENT! They are venom filled single ladies with cats.

  • John says:

    Try again.

    I have no problem people getting benefits, where it is justified. However, my ex has played the system good style, ably assisted by the DWP and the CSA in order to plunder my income.

    Nobody asked me if she deserved or warranted any benefits? She has thousands in other peoples bank accounts.

  • daveycrockett says:

    I agree completely with this sentiment. My girlfriend back in 1984 told me ,after she
    became pregnant, that she had stopped taking the pill because she wanted a family. She did not work when we where together and to the best of my knowledge she has never lifted a finger since. I foolishly married her for the sake of the child but it only lasted a few months.
    Now, 27 years later, the CSA have come along with threats, liability orders and a DOE to the tune of £150 per month.
    My daughter is, of course, 27 years old. The money they are taking is not for child benefit or maintenance. It is not to keep my greedy ,lazy ex-wife in shoes. It goes to the treasury. They say I owe the secretary of state who has authorized the CSA to collect this supposed debt.
    Of course what they are doing is illegal. They know it and I know it. I paid £10 to get my case file. What a revelation this was. Full of lies and fabrication.
    For example in 2002 they state that I was collecting benefits from Stockton on Tees DSS and then later that year I was collecting benefits from Peterborough DSS. The problem is i have lived know where but in West Yorkshire all my life.
    They even have a list of all my postal addresses since 1993! which clearly contradict what they say.
    When I questioned the errors in my case file they say they are satisfied that it is correct even though their own records show the opposite.
    They are criminals acting with impunity because the greedy conservatives (Ian Duncan Smith minister for Work and Pensions) have manipulated the law to get their hands on money from a soft touch taxpayer like me.

    The sooner I can leave this shithole country the better!

  • Joanna says:

    I do find the posts above very ironic. (Intentionally so?) Who exactly is bitter? A lot of judgements made. Maybe not unfairly to your personal experience but you can’t say that about everyone else you have no experience of. I do find it hilarious people think single Mums live the life of luxury on benefits. Certainly not my experience, without my daughters payments whilst I was trying to sort work after redundancy I wouldn’t of been able to feed her, house or clothe her. As majority went on rent (because surprise surprise majority aren’t just given a house straight away). Working pays far more than benefits ever so it is an absolute myth. People who stay on benefits or think that are just plain ignorant or stupid.

    Author of original post, you debate not giving your ex money. The only sufferer will be your children. Even if she does spend money on other things she will have to pay for them also. You laid down with her knowing it has a possibility of children so are equally responsible.

    My daughter’s father wants nothing to do with her and has said some terrible things about her. Although CSA are a pain in the arse, I would have absolutely no financial help for my daughter.

    The new system coming will absolutely screw both sides.

  • Sally says:

    Hi Joanna – why do you think the aorementioned comments are ironic?? Don’t you believe that there are women out there who use men to have children??

    We all have experiences we bring to this forum but the predominant factor regarding the CSA is that is very bias towards the PWC and while I agree that the new system will ‘absolutely screw both sides’… it’s going to be screwing the NRP for 13% MORE than it is the PWC….

    I have the same opnion now that I had when the CSA came into my life because of my partners ex greed…. not all PWC are decent mothers who put the needs of their children before their need for revenge and money… not all NRP’s are trying to avoid paying for their children, the majority CANNOT AFFORD IT and pay bills at the same time…

    Mothers and fathers can be equally bad but as you said to the OP “You lay down with her knowing it has a possiblity of children so are equally responsible”… I could say the same to you…. you had sex with and CHOSE to have a child to the father of your child… did you know him well enough to decide that he was going to be a decent father who WANTED a child with you??

    When I read the original post, I got the impression that he was tricked by a female and then shafted by the CSA, I also got the impression that he was sympathetic towards some PWCs (who, like him, got a raw deal)… his second paragraph says it all….

  • anon says:

    The comment from Joanna

    “”My daughter’s father wants nothing to do with her and has said some terrible things about her. Although CSA are a pain in the arse, I would have absolutely no financial help for my daughter”.

    tells me all I need to know about your attitude to child welfare and upbringing.

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