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The questions I would want to ask on this is firstly why did your ex wife stop you seeing the children? If there was no legal reason for stopping contact then why did you not go to court for a contact order? Secondly how could she change their surname as you can not legally do this without getting the other parents permission?
U can change surnames by deed poll without consent. Maybe u are better off not working unfortunately this is what the csa make people resort to
You’re funny – REALLY funny!
” If there was no legal reason for stopping contact then why did you not go to court for a contact order?”
Errrr 10’s of thousands of (usually) men already HAVE existing court orders in place ORDERING contact, issued by judges, through a UK court and the mothers just ignore them (as advised to by their solicitors – sick legal scum) as judges don’t lock single mums up! The way to stop this CHILD ABUSE (denying contact with a parent IS CHILD ABUSE) is to start locking some of these abusive, selfish, vindictive, nasty, women up…a few hundred will make the news THEN we’ll see “justice” done – until then, please educate yourself or be quiet.
Martin can it work the other way round ? My ex moved away with the woman he left me for our 3 kids miss him so much all they want is to see him, is there a way I can force him ? I know that sounds bad perhaps even that I’m jealous but our relationship had been dead a long time I was relieved when it ended.
Martin instead of being so nasty and vindictive in what you have said to me and jumping to conclusions!! I am a single mum and have always given full contact to my children’s daddy despite what he has done to us! We now have a contact order in place and I would not dare violate the order as I have been told I would face serious concequesnces so I really don’t know why other women who have a contact order in place and don’t stick to it are not being penalised unless the reson they stop contact is for the safety of the children to which the courts would accept. So I would be very interested in hearing the resins of stopping contact when a court order is in place and the resins why a court has not enforced them?? So get off your high horse!
Karen Todd – is that true about changing names by deed poll? As everything I have read on the Internet clearly states you have to seek permission by the other parent?
Karen I have just looked up changing a name by deed poll and it clearly states is changing a child’s name under the age of 16 BOTH parents have to consent to it.
You do need consent of both parents however in terms of schooling they can be registered under anyname but it must be acknowledged by the school. Some have on their register proper surname followed by known as. And good for you Jill for not ignoring the contact order but I’m afraid u are in a minority.
Thanks Paul, I always put my children first. I don’t understand how other women have gotten away with ignoring contact order, I would be scarred stiff to break the law!!
Jill, I was being sarcastic because you stated something as if it were fact without dealing with the REALITIES – tens of thousands of parents (97% male) have contact orders in place that are routinely ignored day in day out, week in week out BECAUSE the judges aren’t prepared to send “single parents” to prison “just for stopping access” as its deemed more painful to children to have a parent locked up (for ignoring the law) than it is denying the child a relationship with the other parent. I’ve been in court when solicitors on the way out have simply told (usually the woman) “ignore the order, the judge won’t ever lock you up, if you don’t want him to see the kids just ignore the order or move away – and if he wants access he’ll have to go back to court, waste more money on another order to be made which you can just ignore”
It goes on DAY IN DAY OUT and I’ve grown tired of people talking bobbins on this subject – the sooner the population wake up to what is REALLY going on the better and if I come across as “nasty and vindictive” so what….I thinks its wrong that YOU don’t see the system as it truly is.
You come across very angry which is not a good reflection on you, I was just asking the question as my solicitor advised me strongly NOT to ignore court contacts so I really dont think you should judge everyone with the same brush. And if you reacted angrily like that in court then its no wonder your ex is refusing contact. You should be very careful how you react to people!
Jill just leave it !!
these men have a right to be angry due to their voices never being heard.
Your reasonable but your the minority not the majority.
Christina…I said this on a thread on another page yesterday….hopefully this will explain where I’m coming from
I’ve not had a bean in 5 years (from my ex for OUR children)….the ONLY people who will or can ever judge you are YOUR children….parents would do well to remember that. If you’ve done enough/as much as you can then you have nothing to “fear” when they judge/pass an opinion on you….
I’ll be “judged” by our children, just as she will and all other parents will – if they have a free mind and are allowed to make their own mind up then it is the children that matter – I have nothing to fear in that respect, nor do any “good” parents….there are “bad” dads AND mums and I have no time for either – I don’t care whether you are male, female, black, white, brown, pink…I simply don’t care.
Anyone that “doesn’t want to see their kids” is plainly wrong, will live to regret it at sometime, but no you can’t (and shouldn’t force) them…..by the same token (and this is far more prevalent by mums than dads..) you MUST NOT STOP them either…and people do…based on anger, but usually money. We have no right to decide which parent our children see – end of story
Really? REALLY?? *I* should read and not judge everyone?? I am a full time single parent with sole custody – I’d love my ex to WANT contact!!! I don’t owe a bean to anyone nor do I owe idiots like you an explanation. You keep on trotting out your bobbins but don’t expect me not to point out your inaccuracies……its people like you and your continued use of “facts” that support the corrupt family court system. I attend court in a supportive role to other parents who are being abused in court by a corrupt system and I’m telling you that YOU are talking bobbins about court orders and you have a pop ate me??? As I said 3 hours ago – You’re funny – REALLY funny! but just because you’re funny and you say things doesn’t make it true. Wake up to the REALITIES of the Family Court system – get off your backside and go into court and see and feel the outcomes – do not judge people by your own “nice pink and fluffy” situation – for every “nice pink and fluffy” resolution there is a nightmare situation.
I’ll say one final thing – and if you have a male child you would do well to take it on board and educate yourself….people increasingly don’t stay together nowadays and if you have a male child he (and therefore you) have a VERY GOOD chance of falling foul of the system and seeing him being denied access to HIS child and YOU being denied access to being a grandparent – I’d suggest you seriously think about THAT before you trot out any more of your bobbins.
I think the problem here is that some people don’t appreciate the effect the system has had on thousands of Fathers and Children! Because they are selfish and live in their little bubble, they have no knowledge of or care about anyone else! To them it’s a simple case of Man vs Woman!
Not all woman I’m totally on the side of NRP male or female.
That’s why I’m always in the middle of spats on this page. X x
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That’s a Tad strong Ben! But I have to agree with you on many levels!
Just removed it mate, cant put up with the agro of backlash, lol. These stories are so sad. Some women seem to think they can use their children like weapons, and in most cases, not all, the law seems to come down on their side. My mother raised us alone, my father wasn’t allowed access correctly cause he was a prick. But why should that set the standard, plenty of dads want to be part of their kids lives and the women should be glad of this due to the positive effect it has on their kids. Women who withhold this right need to be put in their place. The law is far to one sided on this. Again before anyone starts having a go, I know not all women do this, one of the comments above is from a woman who allows access a clearly sees the benefit to her kids lives of this contact and hats off to her. Unfortunately she is the minority. Things go bad in a relationship then cut loose and stop making each other miserable, but dont make the kids suffer. Take it from me they will never forget.
Well said! I hate it when your right 😉
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15 years of hell my partner had with his ex, and she now thinks its water under the bridge, now his children have got in contact with him , well… one day i will tell them the truth what their mother done to him if he don,t… what an evil women
Have to take it a stage further than Martin to say the initial affect of vindictive mums causes 100’s of thousands of children to lose all contact with parents (overwhelmingly dads).
The knock on from this will be that millions of children will not know a Grandfather. It’s a sad reality.
I have been to Court 20 times, have 3 contact orders granted only to be made painfully aware they have absolutely zero standing and any excuse is a sufficient excuse to break contact. It could be as week as “i forgot it was his contact weekend with my daughter” and it will suffice.
The legal system is institutionally sexist against men. I’ve been reading up and supporting people going through divorce or contact in my local area and it is abuse on an epic scale being committed against men (which makes it ok). One bloke told me he had a house left to him in a will by grandparents, his ex wife forced the sale of the house, £70k it sold for quicky sale, Judge disregarded all matters and split £65k to ex wife and £5k him AND he was forced to pay her sols fees from it! He left with just over £2k for a house left solely to him. His ex still makes contact difficult. When she found out about him meeting someone she moved back to home city. He’s drove several times (3hrs each way) only for her to not show.
I can understand the genuine anger that people have because it is like having a limb removed emotionally.