No letters from the CSA, just deductions from earnings!

December 2, 2011

My husband stopped paying when his son left school at 16, only to be told some months later he was at college for TWO days a week which apparently means he has to pay again. He disputed this as the boy keeps getting disciplined apparently and we’re sure he rarely attends (he’s always in trouble).

Also, my husband wavered his share of the sold house proceeds and over the many years has never missed a payment. He has done everything right, payed for many holidays, expensive gifts, lots of extra essentials, visited regular as clockwork. BTW, I’ve never interfered, until NOW!

She has gone behind our back to CSA (boy is now 17) and told them my husbands work place and he has been deducted over £600 this month with another minimum £600 next month to go as well straight from wages!!!

This is theft surely! The CSA only ever made one phone call and that could have been her or her friends. No letters! Nothing! The ex is abit of a crook, apparently the CSA just take her word for it.

How can we find out if he’s even at college, or where? How can we find out if she’s receiving child benefit, I believe you must be in receipt of this to qualify for child maintenance??

Thanks for any response, my kids and grand child will suffer this Christmas while she has most of our money.

Comments

19 Responses to “No letters from the CSA, just deductions from earnings!”

  1. janet on December 2nd, 2011 2:52 pm

    If a dow order has been set up its unlikely it can be stopped until all arrears are paid up they can take a certain percent there should be protective level obviously the child in question mother is providing for him so unless child benfit is stopped then u have no other option maybe if u agree to pay as much off arrears plus regular maintenance they might remove it

  2. Dazzler on December 2nd, 2011 4:56 pm

    CSA contacted me in May 2011 stating I owe £5000 in arrears. They wanted £80 a month which I paid by Drect Debit. Then on 1 December 2011 they take 500 from my Bank without prior notice to me and state that they want £475 a month now and they state that I owe £18000.00 in arrears and they will allow me until 2024 to pay. My youngest will be 24 years old by then. Where the hell do these people get these ideas from and where do they get a £13000 increase in arrears from when I was paying what they requested all along. Questions need asked at government level as to why the CSA is such a F**k up!

  3. joanne on December 3rd, 2011 9:03 am

    Your situation sounds like ours, you need paperwork, contact your mp and write a letter of complaint to the csa, never deal with these assholes on the phone. If the boy is at college csa need to prove this, not you, might be worth giving child benefit a ring with your concerns, this is what we did and found out that the pwc wasn’t entitled to claim child benefit as my partners daughter went onto work and moved out…might need to do some investigation work yourself to back up your claims, we did and it saved us 614.00 a month! It’s horrible to think the pwc has had everything, like in our case, so its just greed….wish the pwc started taking some responsibility for her own life and stop sponging off the ex, its called get a job, when kids are old enough surely they can do this?

  4. janet on December 3rd, 2011 10:31 am

    Joanne I agree but where are the jobs, at the end of day them kids are with you forever you should be ashamed of yourself

  5. joanne on December 3rd, 2011 11:59 am

    Janet I was a single mum and I worked, I still work….if it meant me cleaning toilets I did it and my children 9 and 7!, I get no maintenance, so don’t tell me I should be ashamed of myself….yes kids stay your responsibility but when they are grown and child benefit stops then the pwc should be able to stand on their own two feet, not try and get it off an ex by use of false claims, where’s the responsibility then, using your child to get money…that’s shameful!

  6. joanne on December 3rd, 2011 12:42 pm

    And also, I like to think I teach my children, you want things in life, you earn it and get pride for doing so…thinks that’s my role as a mother that they will take with them….you say they are with you forever, but you are not with them when you go so have to teach them to stand on their own two feet.

  7. Miles O'Brien on December 3rd, 2011 1:11 pm

    Well said Joanne! There should be more decent folk around like you!

  8. janet on December 3rd, 2011 8:23 pm

    Haha I’m a single parent and I worked then lost my job took me over 18 months to find a job cause they were hard to come by don’t you listen to the news the unemployment rate is higher so don’t assume every one is lazy that is on benefits the MEN made the children so pay up

  9. joanne on December 3rd, 2011 10:17 pm

    Urmmm no….man and woman made children, which means both parents should provide….and don’t assume you know everyone’s circumstances…majority of men are paying up that’s the problem here…its the ones that are not paying that get let off! And like I said I took three jobs to support my kids so don’t ha ha me! And your missing the point, your saying in this case and like many others that its ok for pwcs to commit benefit fraud?

  10. joanne on December 3rd, 2011 10:32 pm

    Urmmm no….MEN and WOMEN made children…so both parents responsibility, not just one!! Why should it solely fall down on the man, not all men choose to leave the kids behind and they deserve to have a life too. And if you read the above, like many other cases on this site MEN are paying for their children, and being hounded for more! And I did 3 jobs, I wasn’t picky! And when a child reaches adulthood pwcs should start looking after their own affairs, leave the ex alone…this person doesn’t believe the boy in college and has the right to know this information, pwcs shouldn’t claim child benefit illegally, and that’s the point I was trying to get across, you think that’s right??

  11. janet on December 3rd, 2011 10:45 pm

    Well aren’t you an angel!! Obviously u had to work 3 jobs as you couldn’t get a high paid one! Who said that the men should solely provide? Its obvious that the mum provides as well don’t they? If the child goes to college twice a week the nrp will still have to pay end of!! And uf the woman is committing fraud then she will get found out my point was about u making out you are miss goody two shoes cause u cleaned toilets? Well done you

  12. Rachel on December 4th, 2011 1:19 am

    Janet, let me just point out to you that it takes TWO to make a child. That’s right, a man AND a woman. They should BOTH be financially responsible for their child; not JUST the man. Why should Joanne be ashamed of herself? Because she made a very valid point that the pwc should take some responsibility financially for her child/ren, and not rely on her ex anymore once their children have left full time education? Why should she be ashamed of herself because she said that? Of course the children are with them forever, but children grow up and there’ll come a time when they can fend for themselves. Why would the PWC still need child maintenance when the child is perhaps in a job earning their own money if they aren’t studying? Joanne is right in her parenting choices; setting her children good examples by working if they want things. Don’t call her for wanting to work, no matter what job she chose to do! I also wouldn’t class that as being a “miss goody two shoes”. I’d class that as being an honest human being who does what normal people do and that entails NOT scrounging off everybody else!!

  13. janet on December 4th, 2011 2:53 pm

    And your point is!!

  14. John on December 5th, 2011 10:29 am

    Why are they called a child aged 19?

    I was working at 16 and paying keep to my parents. To me that is the age when maintenance should stop (16), irrespective of further education, which is used to prevent young adults joing the dole queue!

    If there are monetary needs after the age of 16 for education, both parents should pay their fair share.

  15. John on December 5th, 2011 10:30 am

    …and I went onto to further education, finishing work at 5pm and going to night school at 6pm until 9pm 3 night s a week for two years!

  16. janet on December 5th, 2011 10:10 pm

    They class it as a child if the child is still in college or full time education

  17. John on December 6th, 2011 9:56 am

    My point being that, they are no longer children aged 16. They are young adults!

    They are ‘classed’. as children in order that the government can continue in their hate campaign against absent parents, and fill the government coiffeurs up to repay child benefit, for young adults who remain in some aspects of further education, and this trend is set to continue, because there are no jobs for many young adults!

    It suits the government down to the ground, as they can continue to recycle benefits!

  18. David on December 6th, 2011 1:45 pm

    Oh my god there are some very nasty,ruthless acidic females about are’nt there,going on some of these posts,the reason being,because they have the full backing of a government backed authority to claw money from many innocent fathers,its a licence to print money,for both the government and these nasty women.

    I would like to know why the fathers are targeted in this way,as I have said many innocent,and the parents that put children into care,collectively have no financial penalties,the bill is picked up b y the tax payer,and these rotten to the core parents get off scot free?

  19. karen on December 7th, 2011 11:17 am

    i have a child from a previous relationship and one from my current marriage … my ex doesnt pay a penny to me but treats my daughter like a princess on the times he sees her which is how it should be. we were both happy to have a child together at the time and he has never turned his back on his responsibilities … however my husband had a one night stand when he was younger the girl never got in touch untill months later when he recieved a letter to pay child maitenance to a child he knew nothing about… he was given no contact details for this child or the mother but the csa dont need to follow data protection at all and can just take wads of cash out of our near empty bank account for a child he has no rights to… now we have a letter saying we owe 1000 when we are paying the monthly money by direct debit that the csa have worked out … we ignored this request as no matter what the csa dont listen, you owe what they tell you end of …even if we are now in debt consolidation…. i think he was daft to have a unprotected one night stand but at the same time if a woman decides to bring a child up out of a relationship with no communication to the other half involved then she should have the pride to pay herself…its child support not skank support!!!!!!

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