My son is about to be offered a football scholarship, should his father still be paying?

May 3, 2013

My son turns 16 in September and lives full time with me – his Mother – and has regular contact with his father but never stays with his Father. It seems highly likely that my son is going to be offered a scholarship with a football academy when he turns 16 – which means he will live away from home during the week but be home at weekends and out of football season he will be home too.

He will also be continuing education at a local college whilst in this programme. Apparently he will receive some payment whilst in this scholarship – although not a great deal. Will his Father still be obliged to continue with my maintenance payments in full until my son reaches the age of 19?

Regards

Carole Hood

Comments

32 Responses to “My son is about to be offered a football scholarship, should his father still be paying?”

  1. Lisa on May 3rd, 2013 6:05 pm

    I doubt if CSA will be able to chase his father if he doesnt live with you, child benefit wont be paid to you so it doesnt qualify your son as Qualifying child for maintenance payments

  2. Alice on May 3rd, 2013 8:44 pm

    As your son will still be in education you and you will most likely still be supporting him financially – you say the payments made to him will be small so I assume this will be similar to a bursary situation – then it is possible you may still be entitled to claim Child Benefit, the fact that your son will be living outwith your house during the week does not automatically disqualify you from, lots of kids live in college accommodation during the week and return home at weekends and holidays.

    You should contact the Child Benefit office to see where you stand with them.

    If you still qualify for Child Benefit you can still claim Child Maintenance for your son

  3. Melinda Bas on May 3rd, 2013 8:56 pm

    should his father provide for him, most definitely. Maybe you can find an arrangement between yourselves that doesn’t involve csa. Best wishes.

  4. Duncan Smith on May 3rd, 2013 9:07 pm

    Leaving full time education you get fuck all, skank just wants money

  5. Melinda Bas on May 3rd, 2013 9:12 pm

    There are many other ways to provide and support a child that don’t involve money x

  6. Alice on May 4th, 2013 8:46 am

    12 hours or more per week is classified as full time education, so as long as your son attends college for 12 hours as well as attending the football academy it is most likely that you will still be entitled to CHB – speak to the CHB office and give them the details of the course at college and details of the scholarship and they will be able to confirm whether you will or will not be entitled to CHB.

  7. Sally on May 4th, 2013 10:12 am

    You should try to come to some agreement with your ex and avoid the CSA all together… Alice is on here touting for business…

    DO NOT involve the CSA …. If you and your ex are on speaking terms you should discuss it with him and explain the situation…

    When you involve the CSA you, your ex and your Sons life will be turned upside down and that’s the last thing your Son needs at his age…. Good luck to him on his scholarship!! 🙂

  8. Macon on May 4th, 2013 10:58 am

    Alice

    There you go again trying to stitch up the NPR making the rules up as you go along surely if the kid is away for 5 days and only stays at the weekends this is not his main residence so meens the PWC only can get a 6 weeks extension !

  9. Alice on May 4th, 2013 5:48 pm

    I am not making the rules up as I go along, it has always been the case that if a child is at a college and stays close to the college during the week and comes hoome at weekends/holidays etc CHB can still be paid to the PWC, the fact is the mother will still be supporting the child through their education.

    My own mother was entitled to continue to claim CHB when I went to college which was 150 miles away from my home.

  10. Macon on May 4th, 2013 5:57 pm

    Alice

    Mite have guessed your mother was a benefit cheat too that is not allowed you know it claiming child benefit while your are 150 miles away is fraud.
    I would be really pissed off going to college and ending up working for the CSA a call centre worker !

  11. Macon on May 4th, 2013 5:59 pm

    150 mile away is not close its fraud , bet she got all the other benefits along with the child benefit !

  12. Alice on May 4th, 2013 6:07 pm

    Macon – my mother was not a benefit cheat – as I stated my college was 150 miles away from my home, which was too far to commute daily by bus/train – as such I stayed in college halls of residence, the cost of this was paid for by my parents, they also paid for my course books, and other stuff that I needed, they clothed me and provided money for other personal items etc … as such they were financially supporting me and as such my mother was entitled LEGALLY to claim CHB

    as for whatever else my mother/father claimed in benefits – quite frankly is none of your business … but because you are a bitter twisted little man you assume .. let me correct you – my parents raised myself and all my siblings, supported us all through non-advanced and then advanced education, they claimed NO benefits whatsoever.

    Claiming CHB for a child who is attending college and living on campus is NOT fraud – it is perfectly legal… as you claim to know so much about the rules perhaps you should clarify your thinking before you go accusing people of fraud etc

  13. Alice on May 4th, 2013 6:09 pm

    and for your information I am not a call center worker

  14. Macon on May 4th, 2013 6:17 pm

    Claiming child benifit when your son or daughter is 150 miles away for the majority of the week is fraud and you know it PS I have payed money every week for my kid it’s just after he left school at 16 years old the CSA JUNTA have assisted my ex receive maintiniance money under false pretences and this is a common occurrence ripped off for 3 years and the Csa assisted a benifit fraud !!!!!!!!

  15. Macon on May 4th, 2013 6:23 pm

    I will never lie down too those faceless imbeciles on the end of the CSA 0845 call centre they are the problem the common denominator in all this hatred !!!!

  16. Macon on May 4th, 2013 6:31 pm

    Alice

    Answer one question do the call center staff know what they are doing ?

  17. Alice on May 4th, 2013 6:52 pm

    I think you will find if you contact the Child Benefit Office and ask if it is fraud to continue to claim CHB for a child that you are supporting whilst they are in non-advanced education and living away from home the answer will be ‘no, it is perfectly legal’

    Is for your question as to whether the call center staff know what they are doing – as previously stated I do not work in a call center so I cannot answer that question for you.

  18. Macon on May 4th, 2013 7:04 pm

    That’s a cop out , you know most of them are undertrained and don’t have a clue your mother is still a benifit cheat an you know it ,you have let everyone know where you have came from !!!!!!

  19. Alice on May 4th, 2013 7:18 pm

    well if thinking that keeps your little mind happy then you carry on thinking it – personally I know that I am right and you are wrong – but you carry on declaring that you know the facts when really you don’t and keep yourself content with making assumptions about everyone else
    have a nice evening

  20. Macon on May 4th, 2013 8:29 pm

    Alice

    has lived away from you for more than 56 days in any 16 week period
    is expected to live away from you for more than 8 weeks
    is expected to be in hospital or residential care for 12 weeks or more because they’re ill or disabled, and you will not be regularly spending money on them

    Taken off the child benifit site your mums a benifit cheet and you know she is you are a fraud just like your mum !!!!!!!!!!

  21. Sally on May 4th, 2013 11:44 pm

    @ Macon… You are wasting your time…. ‘Alice’.. He, she, it, is not being honest in ANY part of her/his response… She/he has admitted to working for the CSA and as a result there is nothing worth listening to… Alice will say what ‘she’ has to say… To attract custom..l and keep herself/himself in a job…

  22. Macon on May 4th, 2013 11:55 pm

    Sally

    It pisses me off as Alice is a civil servent us tax payers pay her wages and now I have just found out us tax payers have also payed for her shit education threw child benifit fraud 🙁

  23. topper on May 5th, 2013 1:51 am

    Like it or not, the mother will still be able to claim maintenance because, A ‘person With Care’ is the person with whom the child has his/her home and who usually provides day to day care.
    To count as providing day to day care, a parent must provide care for at least 104 nights per year on average.

    In this instance the poster of the thread states that the child will be home at weekends and during out of football season, plus the child is still attending college and by so doing the child is still in some form of education.

    So I’m afraid to say that I am going to have to agree with Alice on this one.

  24. Macon on May 5th, 2013 7:24 am

    A NRP can have his kid for 104 nights over the year and only gets a small discount off his maintenance Topper how is this fair ?

  25. Sally on May 5th, 2013 7:58 am

    Topper, what Alice says may be true but my main point is that she and other CSA workers lead people who come on here for advice, to believe that the CSA will help them…. The CSA do nothing but cause turmoil and upset because the idiots who work for it don’t have a clue what they are doing and are NOT interested in the children!!

    The author should try to come to a private arrangement with her ex and keep well away from the CSA!!

  26. Sally on May 5th, 2013 8:08 am

    P.s. @ Alice… I went to university and had two jobs to help me through it…. Both my parents worked but couldn’t afford me to stay in halls of residence so I had to share a flat with 3 other girls.

    Society today allows people to believe they should be subsidised…. It’s all wrong!!!

    EVERYONE should pay there way and kids should be encouraged to get jobs as soon as they turn 16 regardless if they stay on at school or not…. Our government is breeding a society of lazy spongers who don’t want their kids to work so that they can get as much money from the NRP and government as they can!! It absolutely disgusts me…

  27. topper on May 5th, 2013 10:00 am

    @ macon…………..I never said that it is/was fair, I can only tell you what in my humble opinion the rules are, in this case as I have said, I have to agree with Alice.

    @ Sally, again in my humble opinion there are some good people at the CSA and there are some not so good people, some know the rules and regulations, some do not, some there will help the people that they talk to and some unfortunately do not.
    As for Alice, it is up to this particular person as to what she (going by the name I have to guess that Alice is female) does in her spare time?
    I have read in other forums the alleged intention by the CSA to have employees scour the internet to find forums such as this one, so as to drum up trade,
    personally I do not see it.

    I agree that the best way forward for any PWC NRP is to have a private arrangement and not involve the CSA at all, I do believe that this forms the basis of the new CS3?

  28. Macon on May 5th, 2013 7:00 pm

    Topper

    I got my info of the child benifit web site 56 days in 16 weeks do the maths very easy it means a average of 3.5 day per week that works out at 182 days per year not a minimum of 104 nights !

  29. Sally on May 5th, 2013 7:25 pm

    I’m not sure that CS3 is set up for that reason Topper, a PWC was on this website telling us that an idiot at the CSA told her to start paying through them as they could get her more money!!!! This was just this month!!!

    The PWC had an innocent question about travel arrangements between her and the NRP!!! More money is an incentive to everyone and the CSA know it!!

    As usual, they say one thing and do another!

  30. Macon on May 5th, 2013 8:08 pm

    The CSS 3 was set up to make it a easier calculation for those numptys in the Csa as it goes for the gross pay witch in turm means about 80 % of the NPR will pay more money !

  31. stuart on May 5th, 2013 10:27 pm

    Alice on May 4th, 2013 6:07 pm

    Macon – my mother was not a benefit cheat – as I stated my college was 150 miles away from my home, which was too far to commute daily by bus/train – as such I stayed in college halls of residence, the cost of this was paid for by my parents, they also paid for my course books, and other stuff that I needed, they clothed me and provided money for other personal items etc … as such they were financially supporting me and as such my mother was entitled LEGALLY to claim CHB

    What a let down for your parents to know they wasted all that and you turned out how you did Alice. Working for a company with appalling human rights record and it is all so bad you feel the need to keep spouting your nonsense on here to try and justify your role, you are a liar and a fraud and fool no-one.

  32. Marina on October 5th, 2015 9:51 am

    My sons doing a football scholarship and doing math and english but not doing that at college can i still claim chikd tax credits

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