I got a friend to do the DNA test for me, but got found out

March 5, 2013

Please please help me,my problem with this unfair criminal organisation started back in 2001 my ex did close the case in 2007,not hearing a thing from the muppets from 2003 I thought nothing of it, fast track to 2007 a letter dropped saying I owed the state 22k in arrears my 2nd wife at the time and I had just adopted an 18 month old boy 12 months down the line our marriage failed due to the pressure of the csa debt so she left in 2008 to shack up with a so called friend but i found out she had been cheating on me for a good 9 months, I then met a new partner who is brilliant in oct 2008 that’s when these cheats started a liability order and placed it on my house!!

I have no equity what so ever!!I went to court in 2011 and the judge was or seemed to be on my side and was agreed I was to pay £100 per month managed this for just under a year but then my new partner fell pregnant which was brill I was to get another chance at being a dad as my 2 from the first marriage have been poisoned by there mother and wanted nothing to do with me.

So I stopped making payments due to the fact I,m that much in debt left by my second wife which has came to light :/ and with the pressure of my little one now 16 months old I just have no disposable income at all just like 98% of the uk, NOW for the next shock!!!!

2012 I gets a letter from these pillocks saying I,m the farther of another child so I disputed it, I then can recall after the split from my first wife it hit me bad so went on a drink and drug road trip, and did have a one night stand I can also just remember offering a termination of said child as there is no future for us at all, I then moved away in 2001 to my new house (the one im in now) with my 2nd wife (who has now peed off back to tamworth with her so called friend)

I heard nothing until 2012 so with me in debt and have no more cash to give I got a friend to do the DNA test for me, I got found out and I,m up in court on the 21st march 2013 for false DNA sample, and I,m so scared advice would be good or what will happen to me , the csa will not grind me down!! they have put me into depression twice, had one heart attack bought on by this corrupt organisation, I,m an honest hard working man and I know if I start paying for this mistake I made I will be bankrupt as I know she will just sit on here arse and not bother looking for a job and enjoy making my life hell, I,ve also not told my new partner about this as it will be devastating for her and would most certain be the end of us both.

So the CSA are good at wrecking lifes and families and also they have wrecked the relationship with my first 2 children. They don’t care about the PWC or the NRP just their greed, some times I do think about ending it all but then that’s the easy way, the csa/cmec need to be dispanded and shut down asap even with the order on my house I now understand they can not force you out but when I,m dead and gone they will be stealing from my children with the inheritance.

Any advice please


  • KMcQ80 says:

    So if you don’t pay for your child, who should?
    Others on this forum struggling with CSA payments?

    Always cover your assets.

  • Gonk says:

    It’s true
    We all hate this shower of shite outfit and I dare say if you had been I touch with how these bastards work you would have not missed payments or stopped payments just because you couldn’t afford them anymore..I understand where you come from mate…I really do but the csa scum don’t,and neither do they care.
    What you need to understand is this.I read on this site everyday about the misery and destruction they cause to lives and families….IT ABSOLUTELY AND 100% DOES NOT GIVE A SHIT about anyones lives it ruins and subsequently the kids.It only cares about the money it collects for the treasury pot to claw back what it pays out in benefits…it’s as simple as that…this is not rocket science..the csa is on the side of the treasury first and foremost and then the PWC…because the PWC is the umbilical cord feeding the treasury .
    I have had no bad experience with them YET but am sure my time will come.Some might ask why I post on this site then? Simple answer is, they are unfair to NRP’s and I voice my opinion of them on here.
    As Amanda says…..you are screwed…..you won’t get any help or slack cut from them.

  • lisa says:

    What can i say you got caught out, maybe should have been a little more discreet, they are definitly going to throw the book at you as you probably know, The CSA wont cut you any slack as amanda says above, the best thing you can do is plead total poverty and admit to being a complete idiot and hope for the best,

  • carol says:

    Gonk spot on…

    And OP, I can understand why you did it, and youve had a rough ride with some life lessons in there, so not going to lecture at all. 😉

    so…what a mess. First off, youre gonna have to be honest with that great gf of yours. She may stand by you…you can work around this, and through this.

    secondly, get your assets put into your childrens names and in a will state they be split between your children and whoever your partner/wife is at the time of death. Maybe that could work but I think the government are trying to get that overturned. (I knew of this as a carer where a patient was made to sell home, to fund for care, but even if they died two weeks into their stay, the government copped the lot, so people left it to their children whilst compus mentus and in good health, which government didnt like of course, hence why they went for overturning this law)

    thirdly, yes…accept that you will never be able to support yourself let alone your gf or children whilst the csa will take their 40% from you, if you remain in work. So either get round that with help of your gf or live life on JSA and all the BS that comes with that scenario. But how can you get to work when you cannot afford the travel expenses, let alone pay other essential living costs like making up housing benefit rent deficit for starters (because HB dont pay full rent that most rentals cost)

    If you dont wanna sit around all day, which I dont think you do, try volunteering doing some good back in this shite messed up world. You seem like a good soul who has had their own ups and downs, made mistakes as you posted, fessed up tho 😉 ….tbh…the best motivators and mentors are not them new age guru’s, its those who have fallen off the track a few times.

    Cant tax a volunteer 😉

  • lisa says:

    @ KMcQ80
    Really, this guy has come here asking advise for being an idiot, yes he knows he did wrong but who are you, You personally dont pay for is kids and he is now sorting things out,
    I really hope he does the DNA test and it comes back not his, best thing he can do is go bancrupt, start afresh, like carol said voluntary work is a start, shows willing, looks good on a CV, dont let the CSA bully you like they have others, play them at there own game, at the end of the day they want your money, nothing else, your just another number, a statistic they are making a show of by taking you to court, and probably in the end getting no where, becuse they are a whole department f idiots,

  • wilf says:

    lisa:- What are the odds that the DNA test proves negative when the poster has already sent in a substitute to take the test.?

  • carol says:

    Im guessing, that whoever took the DNA test had a criminal offence where their DNA was taken by police in the station and held on record…and when entered into the system, voila….another dude popped up!

    lisa you are right….they only want your money, nothing else, youre just a number. Numbers dont need homes or heat or food or a right to a life, let alone a lil happiness.

    I hope us numbers will be counted one day…..in the not too distant future because I am losing hope in life, as are many other NRPs treat in this disgusting way.

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