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Hi I am really at my wits end with the csa and my partners ex wife being such an evil woman!!
My question is my partner has 2 children to his ex which he pays csa for, one is 9 and other is 11. She made him pay csa from when the oldest was born so that claim started in 2001 and the other was born 2003 so the next claim was made from then. We are desperate to live together (been with him since 2007) but we are scared to because i earn twice as much money as him nearly and we dont want my wage to be taken into consideration as he will have to pay more money (we already struggle as it is trying to pay debts back that we both have) so there isnt much disposable between us as it is. Does anyone know because we are only just moving into together will they still want to know my income and what legal rights do i have as i am not prepared to disclose my salary to them as its none of their business as these kids are not mine?? Any advice would be great, thanks
No under CS2 new rules they are not allowed to take partners earnings into account, personally tell the CSA nothing, give them the dads earnings and thats it, they will try to screw you for tax credits, tell them only what you have to, they take from one child and give it to another that already has tax credits so your in excess paying double, it pays being a single mum on benefits and csa these days, makes me so mad, good luck with things
Emma:- If the case is on CS1 and you move in to the same household the CSA will want to know both incomes in order to work out if the household can afford to pay the liability.
The liability is worked out by subtracting the NRP’s exempt income (personal allowance + housing costs,etc) from his net income to get an assessable income, this is added to the PWC’s assessable income (net income less her exempt income) and split in 2 proportionally to arrive at the NRP’s liability.
If the liability is greater than the affordable amount then it due.
If the liability is less than the affordable amount then the affordable amount is due.
If the NRPP does not wish to reveal their income then an interim assessment will be used which does not consider an affordable amount.
If the case is on CS2 then the CSA will not need the NRPP’s income.
Can someone please help, my husband doesn’t work nor does he received any income from job seekers he has 2 other children with 2 ex partners, I work full time and have 4 children of my own 2 are my husbands 2 from pervious marriage we get child tax credits, I’m currently paying £40 a month for child and £50 a month for the other as the same like most don’t want to see his children go without but I’m only on a low income myself and could do with cutting this down but if mentioned to the ex’s they go mad ” think they forget my husband does not work and its me paying” so was thinking about contacting csa to see what my husband should really be paying? But what I want to no is do they take child tax credits as his income? As don’t see why my children should go without as its for them not the other children when there mums already get this themselves!!!!!!
If I pay $753 per month to support my children, am I also obliged to pay any more money out ?
Appreciate any answers.
Terry.
my partner and i want to get married, if we get married will the CSA take my wage into consideration so my partner will end up paying more to his ex wife.
also was wondering if any inheritance that i get have any effect on my partners payment? They got divorced years before we got together
Lizzy:- Depends whether the case was started before or after 2003.
Can anyone please help… My partner who is not allowed to see his child has just got a letter from the csa asking him to pay £230 per month… He only works 20 hours and gets a miserable £508 a month.. I have read all the comments above but am still confused.. We are not married andI have an autistic son.. Can the csa include my wage and my sons DLA and work/child credits.. Thank you
Hi all,
Wonder if you could help please. My Husband started paying CSA to his ex wife in 2011. He will shortly be made redundant from the Army, and will become a stay at home Dad to our baby (which is on the way) when I go back to work full time. He will therfore not be earning any monies, and I will earn around £1,900 a month. Will we still need to pay CSA for his children with his ex wife (who incidently he doesn’t see and has a hearing date at the end of the month for an acces order).
My understanding is that as this is post 2003 my earning will not be taken into account, and as my husband will not be earning there will be no CSA to pay.
Thanks,
Talli
My partner has 2 children with 2 exes! He has been paying double what he should for the past year in a private agreement with the pair of them but it has crippled us as we are also paying for the 3 children in our household (2 mine 1 ‘ours’) We have decided to go through Csa because we are broke but I’m now finding out that they can take the child tax credits which I receive for MY 3 children (which the government says I should receive!!!) and share it with his 2 other kids who already receive CTC!!! How is this fair??! We have no argument in paying a percentage of his wage or even off his wtc but I thought that the ctc money was for my kids???! He’s not even allowed contact with the kids because they don’t ‘like’ the fact he’s a relationship with me!!! This just all seems like a bad joke 🙁
My partner has a 7 year old daughter and we have a 2 year old daughter together.
His ex was taking money from him for years and recently called csa saying shes never had anything from him.
He is now paying £160 a month when we struggle enough does this money to straight to her? How is this fair when shes never worked a day in her life.
my hubby of 7 years has always paid for his 4 kids even though he worked 60 hours a month to cover csa and mortgage of nearly £700 per month the day he got paid the day he money went straight out , it was crippling us , I am a carer and have my 23 year old daughter living with us and 2 of our own , I am allowed to earn a little without if affecting my carers allowance I was getting up at 4.30am cleaning offices mon-fri to keep our heads above water , my mum was turning up with bags of food, I quit smoking 3 years ago , don’t drink and even dye my own hair as I couldn’t afford the luxury of a hairdresser, I used to ring up crying to the csa as we had no money ,we were getting more into a mess maxed out on credit cards and got into a real mess , almost had a breakdown , the worst thing was his ex rang him before xmas saying I don’t need your money but I like seeing you poor , I was livid ,like kicking us when we were down , slagging us off to his kids that we didn’t get to see them very often it wasn’t that , we couldn’t afford to feed them , we did picnics in the summer , anyway csa decided that we owed arrears of £1500 don’t know how or why as never missed a payment . I had a fall in January in the black ice and im awaiting surgery on ankle and shoulder whilst having physio and had to give up my cleaning job . then in February my husband lost his job , and straight away it was like a relief as no more struggling for mortgage, csa , council tax was paid , I could have my inhalers and we both had fillings that we were in pain with but couldn’t afford to have done before , kids get free school dinners , help with uniform , free trips and after school clubs . my hubby has got to know his little ones as the hours he was working and coming in at 10.30pm he wasn’t seeing them . we have to pay £5 a week and have already been told unless he pays the arrears each month the minute he gets a job they will put an attatchment on his wages. we have both paid into our system as we are in our 40s and have worked from school , he does want to get back into work again but I think im going to go and work full time and he will take over as my daughters carer if that’s the only way we can survive so be it , the csa has nearly cost me my marriage so many times , I have a friend who has one son her ex pays her £260 a month she already says she doesn’t need it , mad needs to be assessed on living expenses not percentages , rant over.
Why people think your ex partners new partners should be paying for your kids out of their hard earned salaries is beyond me.
My partner has 2 children with his ex and 2 children with me. We have worked all our working lives and she has never done a days work in her life. My benefits pay for my childminding fees each week (and even the benefits dont cover all of the fees). So why on this earth should I pay for your kids when I’ve got 2 to pay for of my own, buy all your kids clothes because your claiming poverty AND all this why you sit on your arse all day and do sweet FA with your life??? It makes me sick!!!
hi please can someone tell me if my husband is a carer for my son from a previous relationship and i have a daughter whos not my husbands either and we were on income support as i was claiming for my husband and csa were taking money from that for his 2 children from his first marriage but now im about to start work an be the sole earner we get child tax credits but do i have to pay csa for his children as they are my step children we have been together since 2009 and thats when csa started taking money from my husbands wages and now income support i dont want to start work if i have to pay for his children surely thats between the 2 parents only .
Help!
can my ex husband claim CSA maintenance from me? my son lives with his dad 5 days out of 7 and my ex earns a £1000 more a month than me
My partner has 3 children by his ex wife who he doesn’t see for the past 7 years,we have 3 children together and he’s self employed how can they work out how much he needs to pay? As at the moment the taking legal action against him as he owes £15,000 arreas. And they only leave him with £990 a month to live on and to support us as a family,rent etc? Why should he have to pay when she got the house,bank accounts,car etc he only left with the clothes on his back. Plus she doesn’t work either. Please help xx
Hi
my partner currently pays for 2 children out her income support . We are going into a joint jsa claim will we have to pay still ??????
Hi,
My Ex-Partner made a CSA claim last year for our daughter which I pay happily. I don’t work at the moment, I have a daughter with my current partner, but we live seperatly at the moment. We are thinking it’s time me and our daughter moved into his house. I am a bit worried though as, like I said I don’t work at the minute but my partner’s Net annual income is pretty high, so worried he is told he has to pay. I’m confused about all this works so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Julie
Just a quick question, I have a house I can’t afford to live in anymore the mortgage is £1,500 and my salary is £1,700. needles to say if I sell the house I’ll never be able to afford to buy another one so I’ve rented it out and make up the short fall with my wages. I have moved in with my new partner and she is basically subsidising my life she has a child or her own… where do I stand with the CSA… I was out of work for approx. two years and only been working now for about 15 months they have contacted me to verify that I’m now employed and they are going to investigate my circumstances… what should I expect to happen….
Can anyone help, after 10 years I have requested a review, I have 3 children aged under 16 and have received under £200 per month, my ex husband earns approx. 40k. I have received info that his payments should double but a different department now want my wage details, mortgage details, life insurance I pay and council tax details. Will may earnings be taken in to consideration to reduce the amount he pays?
Ive heard a rumour that as my ex wife has started full time employment my CSA payments might reduce? can anyone shed any light on this?
Many Thanks
Sorry Rob, but that’s untrue. Your ex-wife could win the lottery or get a job as the Prime Minister and your CSA payments wouldn’t be affected. She could marry Richard Branson and you still have to pay the same.
CSA payments aren’t means tested so a PWC will get the same for their child no matter their own personal wealth or poverty.
Of course, if your ex-wife tells the CSA she doesn’t need the money from them now she has a new job and cancels the case, then your payments would stop – but how likely is that?
The CSA has not been of any help to me. My ex has not paid a penny since we split up. In fact he has taken all our savings and all our assets leaving me and kids with nothing. I have struggled to feed them or pay the household bills. His new partner had the benefit of our hard earned money and yes before anyone asked i have worked all my life. She is now being treated to holidays nights out expensive gifts all financed by our money.
The now have moved together and all of a sudden he claims he has no income anymore ( easy when you are the md that cooks your own books )
I wish the csa could take her earnings into account because he benefits of all my money living the life of riley while my kids starve. Joke this system !!!!
My partner is just going through the CSA process, he is the paying parent! However I have been signed off ill and on basic statuary sick pay long term. Will the CSA take this into account?
Hi, what an awesome site.
Ok i need some help too here.
I am disabled and only pay £5 per week out of my benefit straight to my ex who has my 18 yr old son who is at colledge doing a plumbing course.
He will be 19 in March 2014, does the CSA stop when he’s 19?
Also i have an inheritance of 57K coming soon, can they take that too??
Any help would be much appreciated, thank you.
Hi,
I have recently moved in with my partner (his two children live with us 80% of the time as ex not capable). He only earns around 9k per year and so he was in receipt of tax credits and CHB. When i moved in tax credits stopped for him due to my income. Therefore I had to take on contributing considerable amount towards his children based on tax credits using household income.
His ex in the meantime has married her new partner (they have no kids). CSA only considers her income and payment has now reduced from £190 to £68 per month as she has chosen to work part time as new husband earns very well. Therefore more contribution from me to top up as the ex refuses to pay for anything for the kids, my partner doesn’t have the money but still school uniforms, school trips, life costs needed…
It seems crazy that the only one in this equation that has to stump up any money for the kids is me and they are not even my kids. Are we doing somehting wrong here and missing something.
Thank you
I’m paying £330 a month for my ten yr old son who lives with his mother in my former home. The CSA payments are deducted direct from my salary as I am in the military.
My question is when I leave the forces in five years time will the payments be taken from my military pension?
Also will my payments reduce significantly if I have a child with my new girlfriend?
Thanks in advance.
I am confused what I can do to get support for my children from my soon to be ex.
He was self employed. Now says his company is insolvent. Has no income due to the company not operating. Lives with his girlfriend and her 2 children and lives a very nice comfortable lifestyle (6 holidays this year so far, south africa, skiing, italy…) They are members of a health club, etc etc… while I am struggling to put food on the table and pay the bills.
Is there anything I can do?
I cannot reason with him.
I work part-time and although I have retrained to try to get a full time job, I have not bee succesful yet.
Thanks for any help given.
p.s. Forgot to mention she is a high earner, also self employed. He has assets coming to him from our “pot”, whilst I have the home and no assets.
I feel that I cannot afford to waste money on lawyers to advise or chase him up on this, as I suspect that I cannot prove he is being deceitful and they are playing some sort of tricks with money through her accounts.
Thanks
Help
My husband has 2 children from previous and has paid on the dot through these muppets AKA Csa, every month for the last 11 yrs, he has recently had a promotion which the ex could not wait to inform Csa! They are now saying his payments are to increase from by £25 a week, although I have 2 children and we have a 2 ur old together, we have had to buy a bigger house to accommodate his children our outgoings have tripled yet because we work hard and claim no benefits we are an easy target! If we do not pay they say they will do a deduction of earnings! How can they suddenly say that an extra £100 a month is needed for these children when it’s quite obvious that its to fund the greedy mothers life style!
This country and there unfair systems make me sick we are better off on the dole…you work hard and get sod all….can this be right?!?
Oh forgot to mention that she has since re-married he is a high earner and she works from home, they have also today bought a nice big 4 bed property while they rent out my Husbands ex marital home that he gave her. There is no mortgage on it and its up for rent for £950 a month…..how is this fair?
Taking money from one child to freed another what a discraceful society we live in!!!
i have 2 kids with ex wife.been paying 5 pounds week through jobseekers.now stopped claiming as my new partner wkin full time.she has two kids and i live with them and we have a 7month baby between us both.as i dont recieve any benifits or other income will csa take any of my new partners income, thanks
hello ex partner hasn’t seen his son for the last 4 and a half years he gave up work to be stay at home dad so he didn’t have to pay for his son and his now wife work instead what can i do is there any way of getting csa. thanks
I divorced in 2006. I have 2 children 17 & 16 who live with their mother. Divorce settlement stated csa guidelines to be used until they finish tertionary education. So nothing set up with csa just me paying her directly. She gets all the child ben and child tax credits.
Last weekend she remarried. He works. I am going to be moving in with my partner very soon. My income is 50k. My new partner earns 8k and gets housing ben, work tax credits, child tax credits and child ben for her own 2 children that get no support at all from their father. Because of my income all her benefits will stop apart from child ben as my income is high. Thats fine. But my income will need to pay for the massive reduction in her ‘income’.
So, my question, as my children now live with a new ‘daddy’ he can support my children, whilst my income will be required to support my new family. As no official csa arrangement was set up but were told to follow the guidelines as 2006, what can i do? Can i lower my payment to support my new family?
Thank you for any help, ian
Hi, I have a couple of questions I’m wracking my brain over. I am living with my new partner and am in court battling to see my children. The PWC has made a claim. I do not work and the CSA want to take about £40pm. I don’t understand as I have no income.
1) Can the CSA take money from me if I don’t earn anything? (I’m now £300 into an overdraft and it’s getting worse every month)
2) I know my new partners wages are not taken into consideration but are her WTC/CTC? (both our names are on the claim but it goes straight into my new partners account)
3) If my partner gives me an allowance to do the shopping and keep the house and car with, will that be taken into account?
4) Lastly, does anything change when my new partner and I get married and/or have a child of our own?
if i tell CSA that i am living with a new partner and we have a child will CSA take more money from me.
My husband pays for his child to his ex.. When CSA sent the form to him in 2011 I had to provide my details of my income and also my child tax credits. I think this is outrageous as he is not my son. His ex refuses to let my husband have contact and as so far broken 2 contacct court orders. What gets me really mad though is the fact that the CSA are in effect penalizing my son by taking into account his child tax credits and now my new born daughter. His ex receives her own child tax credits for her son and gets a portion is my sons and daughter, hardly fair if you ask me. I think its totally scandalous that CSA are allowed to take into account any money I receive for mine and my husbands children.
Can anyone please help me with this.
My children do not live with me they live with their father, so I guess that makes me the NRP. My new partner wishes to move in with me so we may live together. I am unable to work, he wishes to care and provide for me. He has children that do not live with him, for who he provides. If we live together will the CSA require him to provide for my children as well as for me? I couldn’t ask him to do that.
I’m confused with the whole issue, but i’m sure i’m not alone on this.
Many Thanks
Fran x
Hi Fran, if your CSA case was open before 2003 (CSA 1) your partners income will be taken into account, if it was opened after 2003 his income will not be taken into account.
Hope this helps..
I left my husband last year. Our son remained with his father. I do not work, or claim benefits but agreed to pay half the mortgage each month and match the child benefit. The ex now informs me, he is moving on to JSA (after being sick for 10 years!!!) and that there are questions on the on-line application, about maintenance…… I assume he is threatening me that the CSA will want to assess me…… my new partner works – if the CSA DO become involved, can someone please reassure me, that they won’t look at my partners’ income???? That they will see I am making payments and leave me alone????
Mine is a simple question……
I live with my boyfriend – we both work
His ex lives with his 2 kids, 15 & 18. We don’t see them and there has only be 1 overnight stay in the last 7 years……
My boyfriend pays an amount of money each month (the correct CSA level) and also helps both kids out financially by paying into their bank accounts.
Although my boyfriend works, his wages have dropped, so he wanted to reduce the amount due to his son now being 18. The ex has now said that if my boyfriend doesn’t pay a certain level, my wages can be taken into account too……
Is this legal and true…..I’ve seen mixed messages on the internet and thought you guys might know the answer.
Cheers
Hi numbnut… If your partner and his ex have a CSA case open before 2003 then your wages will be taken into account. If they had a privat arrangement with NO involvement from the CSA then your wages will not be taken into account as it’s a new assessment.
If you look at the calculator on this website you will find out how much he should pay based on his reduced salary.
Child benefit is now payable until the ‘child’ is 20 ( absolutely ridiculous, I know!!!) if the child is still in education or works less than 12 hours a week… This criteria still confuses me so someone else may be able to give you more detailed guidance…
The CSA is useless and not helpful to NRPs (I’m in the same situation as you, I’m an NRPP)….
I agree that partners income of NRP shouldnt be taken into account when working out maintenance – but if thats the case the partners children from a previous relationship shouldnt be taken into account either. My ex earns a decent wage and lives with his partner who earns alot more – her income isnt taken into account but she has one child who is worth more to him moneywise according to the CSA than his own.Yet this childs own Mother and Father ate already both supporting him financially and my ex too although he cant support his own child!
To make it fair – if the new partners income is taken into acxpunt
I agree that partners income of NRP shouldnt be taken into account when working out maintenance – but if thats the case the partners children from a previous relationship shouldnt be taken into account either. My ex earns a decent wage and lives with his partner who earns alot more – her income isnt taken into account but she has one child who is worth more to him moneywise according to the CSA than his own.Yet this childs own Mother and Father ate already both supporting him financially and my ex too although he cant support his own child!
To make it fair – if the new partners income is taken into acxpunt include then by all means include the child(ren) in the assessment too. But if not taking into account partners income only resident childrensharing the fathers or mothers bloodlines should be included?
Grrrr….
@ Twinkletamba… The whole CSA system is unfair and wrong… Both parents income and expenditure should be included when assessing child maintenance. This includes what the the PWC receives as subsidies I.e child tax credit, working tax credit, child benefit… So TOTAL income of both parents are included….
It should be both or no new partners incomes that are included in the assessment, it’s unfair to include the NRPs partner but not the PWCs partner and finally the CSA calculation should NOT take from one child to give to another via child tax credits from new families….. The children are the pawns/victims in all of this… And the CSA are abusing those pawns/victims and use the parent emotions to do so….
Both mum and dad should pay fairly and equally but the CSA encourage PWCs to use them by promising them more money… It’s al wrong…. 🙁
Can I please check that I’ve understood correctly…
I am NRP, Csa case was raised in sept 2012 I’m working and not receiving any tax credits and have no arrears with CSA. If my partner moves in with me I am under no obligation to divulge her income information to the CSA as I’m on a CS2 agreement?
Fantastic site, thanks in advance
If my new partner moves in do I need to déclaré this to csa and will his earnings be taken into consideration? Could this impact on csa payments from my childs dad?
My partner has asked me to marry him, it is very sad but before I give him my answer I would like to know how this might affect his CSA payments. If he sells his house and moves into mine? I earn more than he does my children are grown up although one at uni. we won’t have children together. Ideally we would like to buy another home to let out and happily pay a percentage of the income for maintenance but I have read somewhere that his ex partner can claim 15% of anything over £65k. if he sells his house this would make buying another house to expensive. Also if we both inherit from our parents can this be claimed as well? My health is not good so I am always unsure how long I can go on working for hence not wanting another mortgage. Anyone out there can help me?
Oh just to add his house is in a poor state and needs so much spending on it that we can’t just rent that out. My partner does have contact although it is very much dependant on how his partner feels. We have been to court twice now and both times have a contact order in his favour which she will not honour. I have never met his son (7years old) but really looking forward to a time when I can. His ex partner is the sort of person that lies and will try everything to get what she can this is why I am hesitating. She does not know about me although they split up long before I met him he is still worried about what she will do when she finds out.
Hi my ex has just got a big sum of money from compensation, i recieve csa from him for our 20 month old son that he doesnt see, if i inform csa of his comp am i entitled to any of it for my son, im a single parent n struggle but yet him and his new gf are expecting another child y shu tht child get everything n mine gets nothing please help