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Will the CSA take my new partner’s earnings into account?


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  3. The CSA will take the partners of the non-custodial parent wages into account, but they DO NOT take the partner of the custodial parent into account.

    Therefore….. my ex-wife could live with Sir Alan Sugar and nothing he earns is taken into account when working out maintenance money, but my current wife is on minimum wage and her salary is included in the CSA sums (although her salary is not calculated as a direct percentage paid, as is the parents salary).

  4. Its all F**ked up and the misery is still going on.

    I was informed that my partners earnings are NOT taken into account as we have no children together. She lives with me and pays my mortgage etc, If your partner has children AND receives Tax credit or benefits then yes the CSA take this into account.

    So get yourself a very understanding, kind, rich partner and Don’t have children. Thta’s what the CSA are in a way advising.

  5. On CS1 (cases opened before 03/03/03) a partners income is taken into account.

    On CS2 it is ONLY the NRP’s income and NOT their partners.

    chall ~ afairercsaforall

  6. Hi can someone please clarify then that if a claim was only made this year to CSA , they will not take new partners income into account?

    Thank you

    confused ;-/

  7. Hi Paula, no the new partner’s income won’t be taken into account.

    I believe there is a seldom used rule that applies if the NRP and their new partner run a company together and monies are paid between them, but that’s very hard to prove and enforce, hence hardly ever comes up.

  9. I am still confused. My partner split up with his wife last July, and we met in October. From the day she moved out, he has paid her the required CSA amount every month, as was mutually agreed between them. They have no property or savings, as neither do I. I live with my mother and 21 year old son, currently pay half of the bills each with Mum, but he is moving in with me and will start paying her half.

    My concern is, will his ex be able to claim more from him once he has moved in with me because she will see him as having more expendable income!!

  10. Can somebody please help

    If my ex wife goes through the CSA do they take her wages into consideration as well when working out a final figure?
    She earns more than me and also gets all Working tax credits, child benefits etc etc.

    All answers will be gratefully appreciated.

  11. my partner has just rcently sorted out csa with his ex wife, she has now said she wants to take him to court for excess to the kids and wants me in court too as she wants to know all my finances. can someone please advise if this is correct if she has a right to do this?

  12. @ Dan – if your ex is the PWC (parent with care) who recieves child benefit then the answer to your question is no, the CSA do NOT take into account her income.

    @ Lisa – my understanding is that all CSA claims that were made before 2003 included the partners income, after that only the NRP’s income was considered so the answer to your question would be no, she cannot force you to go to court to gain access to your private financial information. It is absolutely none of her business what your financial status is!!

  13. so is this right they take child tax credit in to account, which i no they do as they taking off me for my husbands kids, but if i worked can they take that is the question i need anwsering

  14. My husband has a csa claim against him from about 10 years ago. He used to pay this regularly, however, unfortunately he went to prison about 6 years ago, so the payments obviously stopped. This all occured long before we knew each other. Now that he is out of prison, he has been contacted by the CSA for the balance of the money that was due. They have asked for my earnings details too, however, we are currently not allowed to live together due to the conditions of his license and we have a small 14 month old daughter of our own. Do I have to provide my earnings details in these circumstances ?
    Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks

  15. @lisa j. i believe you should call the CSA and claim against your partner… this would half the amount he has to pay to his ex…

    play the csa rules against them… your not living together so…

    My ex is taking my wages and kids income, me and my wife are considering “splitting”… and i would move into my dads ;)… we have two kids together, this means 25% of my wage (200) which is 50, this would be devided by three… 1/3 to ex, and 2/3 to wife…

    (hope you understand)

    the backdating balance? I hope that the csa took acount of him being in prison therefore a nil assesment for the six years…

    do not send info to csa. and say you are putting in a claim against him… CSA will not affect any benefit you are on,!!!

  16. @ Lisa, i’d have to agree with ‘Way… on’ – you should use your situation to your advantage as the CSA do not care about you or your child, they are only interested in the money the recieve. Claim child maintenance from your partner.

    @ ‘Way… on’ – There was a time I would have said you ‘splitting’ from your partner was wrong (if it was, to use the CSA rules against themselves), but after dealing with the CSA for almost 3 years, I now feel that it’s each man for himself. The CSA with their ludicrous rules and set criteria is forcing honest people into terrible situations and the most important part of all of this is that the welfare of the kids is not even being considered!!!!… You do what is right for you, your current partner and your kids 🙂

    Good luck to you both!! 🙂

  17. Any one with information? It would be wonderful.
    My husband volunteered information to the CSA about a salary change, he is on the pre-2003 scheme. They then realised he had a partner and have now asked for my salary. How do they use my salary in the calculation? It is similar salary to my husbands, could this double his payment, or worse? Can they back date it?
    Can I refuse to give this information or do we end up with a fine/court if I do that?
    I’d really like to understand how my salary is used and can’t find the information anywhere! 🙂

  18. My husband has a son from a previous relationship he’s paid maintenance for many yrs through the csa, however he lost his job in june and has been on jobseekers since i’ve recently been offered a job which i really want to take does anyone know if the csa would take the maintenance payments from my wage as my husband still hasn’t found work?

  19. @ Caz – my (limited) understanding is that because your partners case was pre-2003 your income (and household expenditure) is taken into account to calculate child maintenance payments.

    Chall will probably give you the correct information as mine is based on my experience, which is that my income was not included because the CSA claim was made post-2003.

  20. When working out net income, the CSA exclude the income of any partner living with the parent. But they do use a partner’s income when working out other parts of the amount of child maintenance that must be paid, such as protected income.
    They only take account of the income of a NRPP when working out protected income.

    A NRPP not legally obligated to disclose their finances.
    However, in some cases, it can be beneficial to the NRP for their partner to disclose such, especially if they are on a low wage or are a non-earner as the CSA will automatically assume that the NRPP can contribute to 50% of the bills/housing costs, thereby upping the NRP’s maintenance payments (as they are assumed to have more disposable income). If the NRPP is not earning, or earns a low wage, then they can’t contribute to the housing costs.

    chall

  21. my husbands ex has decided to stop him seeing his child but now he has re married she is claiming csa she has 4 kids to differant people including one to the guy she lives with he works full time and wants to adopt my partners where does he stand re csa

  22. my husband has been divorced from his wife for 16 years for 16 years he did not have to pay csa because of his wage his company was taken over and he had a slight payrise we do not get tax credits cause they keep cocking it up we have a mortgage coucil tax gas electric water etc like many others his payrise was an extra 100 pound a week csa now take 180 a week for arrears that they cant explain his pay differnce was over 3 months but say he has 4000 arrears how is this fair do they know what they are doing

  23. hi i am just wondering, i have been trying to get allowances from an ex for 5 years now and (apparently) does not work he lives with a gf for the last 2 years who has a really good income, and refuses him to work so he does not have to pay for his kids, would the csa take her wages into account instead then or not x

  25. hi can anyone help please,
    my partner is paying CSA £200 a month and i am thinking of getting a part timejob as we are struggling with our rent and bills etc, we have children together and they are taking my child tax cedits into it but i do not want to get a job if also my wage will to as his ex wife is on about £600 a WEEK and does not work and gets help with her rent if not all paid as she as 7 childern only 2 been my partners i am so confused with it all thanks to anyone who can help x

  26. Can someone explain to me why is it the CSA are able to take into account the Child Tax Credits of a NRP and Partner if they have a child and give to the PWC that is already receiving full tax credits, is that not taking from one child to give to others that are already getting full payment.

    I do not mind supporting my children financially, but not at the cost of my other child. I think the CSA should re-think their criteria. My ex is working full time and married to her new partner, they are both earning around 40k per year between them and receive tax credits, child benefit etc…. I do not work as I am currently studying and my partner is working full time. We have one child together and my partner has three of her own.

    Will the CSA take only a small amount of money from the tax credits or will they take a large amount, as I don’t feel my partners other 3 should suffer because of me or our child. Would it be better for me to move out and pay her CSA payments as well when I am back at work??

  27. Ian,

    At present, for child support purposes-

    WORKING TAX CREDITS;
    Are deemed the income of the higher earner. If earnings are equal, they are split 50/50.
    CHILD TAX CREDITS;
    Are deemed the income of the NRP.

    chall

  28. can someone help with this? have a deo from csa for last 2 1/2 years .they take £110 per week ,they say £77 for the chid,and the rest to pay off over £40000 arrears,they claim i owe. totally stressed out, will not live long enugh to pay this off.on a weeks leave now,so next week ,my take home pay will be £127,as i work a 30 hour contract.got married 4 years ago ,and mived into my wifes house,which she bought 10 years before i met her. do the csa have any claim on this property,as i never told them about it? can they leave me with such a small amount to live on,or shud i dispute it?

  29. @ Ian – omg…. what a terrible mess the CSA have put you in!!

    I cannot give you any CSA specific advice – if I could it would be to avoid them, however, what I do know is that the CSA has no claim on your wife’s property as long as your name is not associated with it (i.e. on the title deeds or mortgage payments)…. they would have if you owned it jointly (regardless if your wife bought it with her own money)… not much help to your i’m afraid but i’d definitely involve your MP if you can…

    good luck and I hope you keep us posted on how you are getting on!

  31. Hello, great link and some usefull stories here 🙂
    I have 3 children ( 2 with one ex, and two with another) and I am under the old terms. Recently 2 of them have come to live with me permenantly so when I contacted the CSA to inform them and gave them my updated details, I mentioned I live with my partner. They keep calling me and asking for my partners income details. Do I have to give them ? It seems unfair as I have only been with her a few months and she earns minimum wage and is a foreign national.
    Will they take money from her ? She says she will go home if they do as she earns so littel as it is and feels insulted that she is getting dragged into this, and then that will leave me in financial dire straights.
    Thanks People 🙂

  32. My ex partner now lives with his new gf and due to get marriage this year and he’s dropped his hours to minimum to get out of paying much maintance they did the calculation and the day after receiving the paperwork he dropped his hours to pay less he now pays £40 a month and his new wife to b has up her hours so they aren’t losing out, makes me mad csa won’t take into consideration there joint income once they are married, can’t believe the lengths some people go to avoid paying for their child.

  33. i am divorced from my wife 2 years ago & im now living with my partner & although i claim jsa she works 25 hours per week can my ex wife get csa to take payments from my partner

  34. I want to get CSA from my ex but my new partner works he is self employed will they want all his earnings info as well as my ex partners only i don’t want to not be able to claim from my ex because my new partner earns too much. Please help xx

  35. The CSA are not allowed by law to take NRPP earnings into account, nor are they allowed to take into account tax credits or child benefit either,

  36. Few short answers required please,I have read all post above and im somewhat lost.

    1) My claim was only made against me in 2012, and I pay for my daughter no problems what so ever, I have met a new partner and she is going to move in with me, she has no kids and earns 15k a year. Can PWC take her wage into consideration?

    2) If i have a child with my new partner can PWC take my new partners wage into consideraton?

    Thanks

  37. Hi Dave

    1) No the CSA do not take your partners earnings into consideration at all (i’m in the same position and for 3 years my income has never been included in child maintenance calculations).

    2) This is where im not so sure as I have read conflicting stories… I believe ctc and wtc may be/can be taken into accountbut your partners salary cannot – I’m not 100% sure to be honest, I have found the citizens advice bureau quite helpful…

  38. @Sally, Cheers to be fair I dont think we will even be able to have wtc or ctc as i earn £37k and she earns 18k

  39. In that case it should just be your salary that they use for the calculation… Have you used the calculator on this website to see how much the CSA say you should pay?

    My partners ex was wrongly ‘advised’ by an idiot from the CSA that my salary would be included in the calculations (we got together at the begining of 2010, 7 years AFTER the rules changed) and his ex made our lives hell trying to get it… I earn a good salary and she would have got an extra £400 each month if the old rule still applied…. :-/

    good luck and I hope someone gives you the facts around your questions 2… 🙂

  40. Hi dave, your partners income cannot be touched by law, yes the CSA will ask for them, you are not legally bound to provide them with any info apart from what you earn, if you get worknig tax credits and it shows on your wage slip that will also be used for calculation, dont tell them any other income otherwise you will end up worse off and your ex laughing because she has screwed you,

  41. Sorry forgot to add, if child tax credits are paid into your partners account they cannot be touched by law, i was told this on the phone the other day by CSA, they cannot take CTC from one child and give to another,

  42. CSA incouraged me to pay the ex direct in her hand,the last time i went round she destroyed my car,so i get others to drop off the money,when she has a bad day she gets on the phone to the CSA and tells them i havent paid,now on her say the CSA want to take me to court,they have no proof i havent paid,but this seems to be relevant,ive told them i want to call her as a witness to stand in court and say i havent paid,but CSA say this will not happen,and i will loose the case.
    Anyone have advice please

  43. can anyone help me CSA payment i have four children and my new partner has two children which he pays for, i receiver csa off my ex husband for my children, but my new partner ex wife wants to know my income and my tax credits and working tax credit information if he moves in with me, i work really hard to support my children she has never worked a day in her life and is due to be getting married in april this year is it right for her to know what i take home and can she take money that i earn worried if thats the case i will not move my partner in as i dont want me kids to suffer can anyone help me please

  44. hi there.
    i was in the same rut as all of you guys..well kind of.
    my partner broke up from his wife 12 years ago.
    they had 3 children together.
    he then had a one night stand and the girl got pregnant but she told him it wasnt his so he feared nothing. his other 3 kids from his marriage were very well looked after.
    i had my son in 2005 from a previous relationship and carried on a single mum.i get 75p a week because my ex is on jobseekers and now has several children running around.

    i met my partner in 2007 and we had a baby by 2008. 10days after my daughter was born he was asked to do a dna test for the child who he thought wasnt his.the childs mother waited 6 years to do this even though she said it wasnt his.
    he was asked to pay £133 a month.
    his ex wife gets jealous that the one night stand gets money as opposed to EVERYHTING his other kids want and decideds she now wants to file for csa. they had EVERYTHING they could possibly want or need.new consoles…EACH and new phones EACH every christmjas and birthday. they were spoilt rotten but they all decided they’d rather have the money.
    this left us in a sticky situation. my kids were surviving on 11p noodles from sainsburys and my partner and i had any leftovers.but the csa didnt care. they just wanted to make sure that they got the money. in the meantime we faced losing our home because my partner had a nervous breakdown and lost his job as well as having heart problems.
    i had top leave my job because he was in such a state.we now only pay £5 a week between the four children,
    i contacted csa and asked if i work will it affect how much they get. their answer was “if i work it doesnt affect my wages but it will affect his household income which will then be taken into account and re-calculated to see how much csa he should be paying out” (so basically. my income IS affected.

    i then tried something else to see what they said.,

    i rang them again and said…
    my ex pays me 75p csa but he is living with a new girlfriend who is on a great wage.will i get more because they are now an item and living together and plus he lives the life of riley whilst i get 75p a week.
    their answer was ” no, you cant get anything from her income because its none of her business. he pays for his child and it depends on his personal income.she has nothing to do with it. the agreement is between me and him and nobody else”

    this is so frustrating because the csa dont make it easy. they screwed themselves over.by being so greedy in the first place and getting £133 a month, they now get £5 a week because they dont know their arses from their elbows. maybe somebody else can try our tactics and see what response you got.
    please share what answers you were given so it lets us in the loop.
    im desperate to work again but there is no way in hell im going to if it means my own children starve because i’ll be paying to feed someone elses.

  45. See this is exactly it..the golden goose syndrome. They keep getting them golden eggs (extorionate unfair payment), but get greedy so kill the goose (simply cannot afford to work and pay living costs)…no more golden eggs (end up unemployed paying £5 a week which is ridiculous because it is not supporting our children and not helping the welfare deficit either) .

    This is not a ploy…it really happens. I dont know how as a single woman nrp manage to pay rent and living costs that come to 1100 a month, which a wage in my vocation as a carer would cover. But then the CSA whittle that down to leaving me with 800 a month if they decide to play nice and not spring arrears on me. Why should I work full time to be in debt 300 EVERY month, to end up not being able to run a car to get to my patients. When I start my job, i will be paid weekly, so the minute I run out of funds in order to get to work (ie one week) the next week, the csa will be getting notification of restarting on jobseekers, and will be making damned sure they know exactly why…their own flawed system.

    I did contact my ex to arrange to make payments to him direct, privately, so it would at least be better that £5 a week, more like £20 to £25 depending on hours worked…..but guess what….he outright ignored me. This isnt about money for him, entirely, he just doesnt want me to move on with my life, and rather see me suffer financially than put any regular money to OUR (not just his) child that would benefit our childs life in some way.

    I would have thought the government in their greed would see the financial fallout from this a ,long time ago, and start taking NRPs living costs into consideration so that ok, they may get lower payments, but overall it would keep nrps in work. Maybe they have same mentality of my ex where its not about the little children, or even the money, but some sick twisted kick in screwing people over and feeding off the misery…..

  46. zss:- Sounds as though your partner is on CS1 where a partner’s income is used to determine household income and thus the amount a household can afford but your income will not be used to work out the liability only your partner’s income is used for that.
    So they will take it into account but probably will make no difference.

    When you made your second enquiry as a possible PWC you were informed about the CS2 system which would be a flat percentage of the NRP’s income with no need for the NRP’s partner’s income to be included. On CS2 they do not work out an affordable amount as many NRP’s will tell you.

  47. thanks for your input.
    its so frsutrating.ive worked since i was 12 years old and my partner since he was 14. we’ve both paid into the system. worked hard and bought a standard 2 up 2 down house with a small garden in an area we could afford. not our first choice but its a place where we could raise the children.
    we’re now in shit pit facing the risk of losing our home and the payments have to be made out from the date the children were bornincluding the child who was a one night stand who no1 knew about except the selfish mother who didnt do a dna sooner.
    she doesnt let him see the child but shes quick enough to take payment.
    the other 3 from his marriage had everything and their mum would send them here in old holey battered shoes because she knew we wouldnt let them walk around like that and it all seems like take take take.
    as for the mother of the 1 child alone. shes just gone and got herself a fancy new 11plate car whilst we’re struggling to make ends meet.
    its so cruel and so unfair that my children are hungry and yet the csa dont care about the greed.
    they dont take anything into account. all they care about is that the other children get what they are entitled to but what about the welfare of my own children.

  48. i am thinking of becoming a stay at home dad and my partner going out to work as she can earn more money than me and am currently paying 200 a month to csa,could they take money for my other child from my current partners wages as i wont get any as staying at home .

  49. hi phil.
    this is the current issue we are facing.
    ive been told they wont take her wages to make your csa payments HOWEVER they will take your household income into account. therefore you will have a half decent income and therefore it should go to the csa

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