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Yes. Your contact, or lack of contact, with your children has no bearing on your requirements to pay the CSA. In fact, by using a variations form, you can reduce your CSA payments by actually having regular contact with your children and claiming for the expenses incurred.
How come the csa still take payments from my wages even though my children are 18 and soon to be 19. I havnt seen them since the nineties due to the x, both have left school, collage and are now working says facebook. Surely they are adults now. I contacted the csa and they said it’s up to me to prove they are no longer in education. They said they tried contacting my x, who refuses to except there calls, can’t see why !!!!!!!! Any comments
i am in the same boat. i am paying for my son and he is not at college but the csa wont listen toe.
Help!! I pay CSA every month with out fail. I have my daughter every other weekend for 2 nights and 3 whole days. I am on my daughters birth certificate and have always been there for her when im aloud but 8 months ago my x stopped me seeing my daughter for 6 months and we went through mediation and an agreement was made i have her 2 nights every other weekend but resently my x has been stopping my contact with my daughter if i dont come running and get my daughter when she wants to go out to the pubs! and im working. I am unsure what to do and was wondering if there was any advice anyone could give me !! ??? would be soo greatlyfully appreciated thanks.
my ex refuses to let me see our son, he is now 10 nearly 11. i have had no contact with him see we split when he was 8 weeks old this is not my choice. i want contact with him. he doesn’t know who i am n is calling other man dad. she has know decided after all these years that she wants CSA. I have taken her 2 court a few times over contact other the past 9 years. she sticks to it 4 a little while and then disappears. i buy cloths and shoes and toy ect for my son n send it 2 my ex’s mother as i av no idea where she lives. i have now hear from CSA demanding payments do i have 2 pay this as i av no contact as the ex wont let me and no idea where she is with my son?
steve,
Regardless of whether you have contact with your child or not, you will remain liable to pay CSA.
The link below will take you to a CSA calculator, where you can gain a rough idea what your liability will be.
http://www.cmoptions.org/en/calculator/calculator.asp
Once the agency have made contact with you, your liability will start to accrue, it may be a good idea to put the amount to one side so you can pay the initial arrears once they become due.
Yes
Hi Steve
I believe that if the other man he calls Dad has adopted your child, you are no longer liable to pay child maintenance but I suggest you call citizens advice bureau as they will be in a better position to give you the facts…
Sally is correct that if a child has been adopted the biological parent is not liable for child maintenance.
If your child has not been adopted follow the advice given by chall
My husband as always paid for his children but his daughter as now left school and is working and doin a pat time course at college but we are still having to pay CSa is this right each time I ring CSa they say the same thing child benifit is still been paid even tho on several times I have report the mother for claiming benifits that she is no longer entitled to
Michelle, do you know how many hours your partner’s daughter is doing at college – 12 hours is classed as full-time
i have never been allowed to contact my child for 9 years now. I persued court action for 7 of the 9 years and I cant see where logically I have to pay csa the courts alays favour my ex. and I have never been listened to in court or especially by cafcass how can these payments be stopped? I last saw my daughter at 10 days old with the assistance of the police I suffered severe mental health issues regarding all this and I have no intention to fight a war that can not even meet you half way. can anyone help me on getting rid of this monkey on my back csa
i have been paying the x £84 through my account to the x is account also the csa know this as they use to take the money out my account but i and the x came to a agreement we will just sort it. i see my child every 2 weeks and sometimes more, the x has asked me if my child can stay overnight but as i live with a big famliy there is no room so the x has said she wont send her anymore and will tell the csa. can the csa do anything more to me in a sense take me court take money etc
i think it fucking ball shit me and my gf we ant seen the for 2 year and the fucking x as stop us seeing the but she want money i wish i neaver had them with it end off ……
Its crazy i pay 350 a month havent seen the kid in 5 years do to the mother i am so sick of it its not fair all fathers should get together and picket at the court house
Can someone please help me cause I’m not getting anywhere with the CSA! I’m actually the opposite to most of u as I am a mum who breaks her neck to provide for her kids while her lazy conning lying ex is getting away with not paying. I have let him see my kids every two weeks as agreed in our divorce and allowed him to school events and extra days out for his family! They have always been vile to me but I’ve taken the higher ground and allowed it as its up to my kids to make their own minds up about him. He has now not paid me for over 18 months but had 2 big holidays, bought new merc, new house, dripping in designer clothes and Jewels and now getting married abroad and still I have nothing! The CSA say they are chasing him and trying to help as they know he is working but I’m getting no where! My youngest is 8 and hates going and wants to stop. I am sick of getting mugged off and can’t find anyone to help me to tell me if I am within my rights to now stop my kids going! I lost my home and everything cause of him and hate that he is basking in money while his kids go without food. And yes it’s that bad!
Kim, you are perfectly within your rights to stop your kids going. That’s what the majority of ‘unreasonable’ mum’s do to hurt their ex’s, and almost always get away with it. (I’m not suggesting you are unreasonable, just explaining how the law works) In some cases the dad’s are really good people who do everything to try to see their kids, the mums break court orders, lie in court, commit perjury etc and the courts usually do nothing, they take the view that kids are better off with their mum and any distress to the mum is bad for the kids, so never punish mums. They aren’t bothered about dads’ rights, they don’t have any. They are treated like second class fools. We live in a matriarchal society and the courts almost never find against the mum unless it can be proven she is a danger to the child, which is almost impossible. Having said all that, I’m a dad who has been stuck in court for 5 years, my daughter is 6, I’ve paid well over the csa rate since my ex left six years ago. I’m desperate to have more contact with my daughter (and so is my son, her half-brother..), the mother does everything to frustrate contact and the courts do nothing. So I know. It’s a huge shame for the kids if they love their dad, but if he really is an idiot they’ll know without you having to tell them. If they really love him and want to see him, he can’t be that bad..so try to act in the kids’ best interest. The courts are now almost useless for private law, all funding has been removed so you need money to bring a case to court. If you’re still getting nowhere with the csa (and you can afford it) you can take him to court under Section 1 of the Children Act 1989. You’ll probably need to speak to a solicitor (money). I’m guessing if you stop the kids from seeing him, refuse any phone contact etc, he might wake up.. if he doesn’t, it’s his (and maybe the kids ?) loss.
Well said William.
I am a father of 3. I guess I’m here as it might be good to get a few things off my chest.
I have a great relationship with my eldest boy, live with my youngest but have no contact whatsoever with my middle boy. I fought and won my case in court to see him. It was a long drawn out process and cost me a fortune. She spouted a load of hurtful lies about me, things like I threatened to kill her and her parents and that was probably one of the more milder accusations. The court naturally had to take these allegations seriously but despite drawing a blank from any police report, it was still ordered that I had to have supervised contact initially. Why, I don’t know but as you say, the law sides with the mum every time.
Anyway, I eventually got to unsupervised contact and things were ok for a while, albeit only as little as 4 hours every other Sunday afternoon. It was still deemed necessary to take this softly softly approach.
Given what an evil vindictive whore my ex is, I have no doubt she has poisoned my son’s mind against me. It went from really building a relationship again to him just slamming the door in my face after a 50 mile journey to see him. This happened over and over till it got to the point where he was being quite rude to me.
It crushed me and I haven’t been the same since but I made the decision to walk away. No law can force a child to attend the contact and the last thing I wanted to do was upset or distress him in any way and as this happened on many occasions, I just couldn’t do it anymore. There’s not a day that goes by without me wondering how he is and how he’s getting on in school or what interests or hobbies he has. What he eats for breakfast, what movies he likes, what clothes he likes to wear. That’s all it will ever be now though, just a wonder, I will never know and I bet she doesn’t even care. I’m actually welling up writing this. What’s more he refers to someone else as dad too.
I pay child maintenance even though I don’t see him and now she wants more. Its probably true I pay less than I should as I haven’t had a review for a while but why the fuck should I give that low life scum bag of a woman more money when she’s done what she’s done?
I’m a great dad. You might think that’s a bit blowing my own trumpet but I think I am. I live for my kids and the time we spend together. We’re always out and about enjoying life, its just a shame my middle son isn’t part of it all as he’s missing and I’m missing out on so much. Not only is this hurting me but its also depriving my family of a nephew/half brother/grandson etc etc.
I was right, that does feel a bit better…
It does upset me that this seems totally against women. My ex husband beat me and was changed and pleaded guilty. My daughter was 18 mths we heard nothing from him til she was 8 and then he decided to take me to court for access.He was granted this albeit in direct to start with as there had been a huge gap. 1 letter in 9 mths she got which she did not want to read. He would not sign the divorce papers after 7 years. So cost my partner thousands and thousands for all the court stuff. So yeah I’m am willing to take CSA payments to recoupe the 9 and a half grand he cost our family to do naff all. So us women are not all like that and not are men but the system has to work across the board which I should imagine is extremely hard.
My ex took the kids to live in another country in the EU with out my consent do I still have to pay child maintenance even if we had a verbal agreement and I am out of work?
Why is it a womens world? Whats fair about my slag of an ex repeatedly beating me over the head with my girls? I have 3 kids my son with my wife and two beautiful daughters with the coniving bitch whos my ex. Shes threatened me, lied about me, Got her latest waste of space bf to think hes hard by bitching about me on facebook. Ive gone through hell and after 8yrs she still controls my life up until recently I had my kids half the time now im not allowed ive got to go to court for the access I want if things we’re the other way round the Dad would be strung up and burnt at the stake. Women as victims. MY ARSE!!!!!
my ex will not pay for his son or help out during school holidays i have had to go from full time work to part time so im there for my son who is 5 and when his father does decide to have him he will take the decent clothes i have dressed him in and bring him back in rags its more stress his dad being around i want to stop visitation but not sure what to do for the best
me and my ex split up about a mouth and a half ago and I was seeing my son for at most 4 hours a week if i was lucky and now she has stopped me sing him all together so i have got a team of family law solicitors and are most probably taking her to court for a contact order. I am still paying for the house and house hold bills. These are starting to stop and i am removing myself of the house next week so want to get things in place so i dnt look like the bad person. every time they ask for something for my son i provide it. do i need to pay maintenance for my son even if she isnt allowing me to see him at all ? This is my first child and really heartbreaking i am bening denied access and i m going to support him in every way i can
help needed please
Aaron…
As this is a CSA help forum I’ll assume that you’re asking for help with the CSA (maintenance and contact are two different issues)
Assuming that your ex puts in a claim to the scum, the good news is that you’re liability doesn’t start until the day that you receive contact from them, but that’s pretty much where the good news ends…
Some three years ago a work colleague of mine split with his partner (they had a young child together), and asked me the same question that you have asked, I told him that his liability started the day that the scum contacted him and not before, and to ask me for any more advice when they did.
Some six weeks or so later he told me that they had contacted him with the MEF, and that he had called them back the same day to clarify some things in their letter. Apparently he spoke to a “very helpful” case worker, who correctly told him that as from that day he was liable to payments, he also asked them how much he would be have to pay, and on giving them his take home pay to the nearest pound, he was quoted a figure, although he was advised that this figure was probably not 100% correct, as his payslips would be needed to work out the exact to the penny figure. He was also told that, as liability started from that day, and as it would take the them some weeks to work out his exact liability, he might like to start paying through his bank in order to avoid arrears building up. He did this the same day, setting up payments slightly above what he was told would be his likely liability to ensure no arrears…
Now you’d think that he’d done all he could to play it right by the scum, wouldn’t you?
Apparently not…some two months later, he told me that not only had they taken his bank order, as the had done since he’d set it up, but they were now deducting money from his wages too, he immediately cancelled the bank order, contacted the scum, and was told that, as his payments through his bank were not his exact liability (he was actually paying more than his liability!), nevertheless, this gave them the right to set up a DEO on his wages!
And they also told him that he was now several hundred pounds in arrears!…
Hope this may have been some help to you Aaron, believe nothing that the scum tell you, they’re out to rinse you, not help you, but you’re not alone, my friend.
Hello
I’m working for a care agency so the work isn’t constant some weeks I may not work. Ive got a full time job starting possible January. My friend was in the same position and didnt tell CSA bout his agency work but did inform CSA when he started his full time job and they never noticed he had worked prior. So this makes it possible to avoid CSA payments for a while doesnt it?
I have been with my boyfriend for 2 and a half years, when we got together his ex was expecting his first child but her second. when the child was born I never stopped my boyfriend from seeing his son at any time and my boyfriend always tried to see him when he was allowed on her terms. since then things have gone down hill. she gave my boyfriend and ultimatium, leave me and go back with her, or never see his son again, my boyfriend said he was not going to let her dictate who he can and can not be with, so he stayed with me and has been trying to see his son ever since. they agreed he pay her £100 a month but when he wouldn’t leave me she demanded another £100 as payment for not choosing her, that’s what all this is about, he chose me not her. my boyfriend is lucky if he sees his son once a year as she wont allow it. me and my boyfriend now live together and are struggling financilay, I do believe in every parent should pay for their child but its not fair to make a parent pay when the ex wont allow access at all. my boyfriends ex has a child from another relationship, yet she demands nothing from the father of that child as he has nothing to do with him, so why does she demand payment from my boyfriend when she wont allow him the same? the law on this needs to be changed, if a man has to pay through csa then they should get their legal rights as the father and see their children weather the ex likes it or not, if she goes back on her word and stops access, then the payments should stop! when will the government realise that most people don’t want the money for their kids but for themselves, if that wasn’t the case then exs or the law would allow parents to have equal rights when it comes to contact
I’m 25 years old and in the army, me and my x split my little girl is now 4, I don’t see her that often due to my job commitments and being out of the country quite a lot with work, she receives 258 per month CSA payments, she lives with her parents has a boyfreind who also lives with them, he has attacked and assaulted me before, I returned from Kenya to a lot of problems so I sorted my own life out, Christmas day yesterday I went around to see my little girl, the x and boyfriend would not let me see my little girl and turns out they have a 4month old baby together too, they wouldn’t give my daughter the Xmas presents I had bought her a waste of £800.00, is my CSA supposed to go down now she has a child with another man, I begrudge paying all that money when its getting spent on another mans child, and how much will ic cost me to take her to court to get access???, thanks in advance.
Sean.
If you’ve fathered a child you should pay towards its upkeep and if a another man helps pay for your child you should be grateful.
Women should not use their kids as weapons and should enable their ex’s to father their kids; to have regular access.
Men should make sure they stay around for their kids and father them, rather than maintaining minimal, intermitent contact. Never give up on your kids.
It’s not just the women who can be like this I have problems with my x he has parental responsibility of my 13 year old son….my son went to live with him temporarily when he was 7 years old due to me being in violent relationship and suffering deep depression when my son went to live with his father I spiralled more into depression I did have contact through courts decision after a year’s contact my x started saying my son no longer wanted to see me and would not continue contact,as you can imagine this sent me on a very very deep depression.as I was really trying to sort my life out we went through court again and they favoured my x as he used my depression as an excuse aswell.after a lot of counselling sessions and anti depressants I started to get my life in order got my own little flat and got myself stronger I went to court again ( I still hadn’t had any contact with my son even though I had rang every week to try and speak to my son and any Christmas/birthday cards and money was always posted back but he would always except the CSA money that was paid to him) this time at court cafcas was involved they spoke to my son and he said he didn’t want to see me even though during this long ridden out court case my x let me speak to my son on the phone one time where he said he wanted to see me to where arrangements were being made until the day and my x told me my son had been to naughty and would of seen it as a reward seeing me this broke my heart….court still favoured my x and said I could write letters and my x should in the mean time try and encourage contact but 3 years on since all that my x has told me to stop writing and there will be no contact in the future my heart breaks everyday knowing my son isn’t in my life which now involves his 2 year old sister and loving fiancee I’ve also just started a new job but now I am getting really nasty letters off CSA because I haven’t informed them of my new employment but I’m thinking why should I… he won’t accept my letters cards or birthday/xmas money but will be willing to accept CSA I would prefer to set up a savings account instead for my son and eventually when he isn’t being controlled by his father he’ll have his own money to keep for himself and do as he wishes with it when he’s old enough. I feel it’s not my son who is refusing contact or the cards it’s my x who is the doing of all this he also rejects anything my mum and dad sends even though 6 months ago my son was stood in the bus station talking to my mum even asked her if she’d wait for the bus with him so I can’t understand how my son is supposed to be doing all this. I just don’t know what to do for the best anymore
Can anybody give me some advise…my sons dad was ok to start with but then once another partner things went wrong…..he once took me to court cause he wasn’t happy about how much he was seeing his son even though I give him free access and helped him out when he was in Uni by letting him stop paying maintenece, however he lost in court but we came to an arrangement about contact so I’ve stuck to that but he always messes it up but every few month says his not happy about to seeing his son so starts with the arrangement again, he got a job an started paying maintenece again, and now my son is now 11y and does not want to go all the time and just before Xmas he had a argument with his dad who told him to piss off and sent him home for Xmas, over the Xmas period I saw his step mum was selling my sons onesie that they let him pick and even some toys of his, and know because he has fallen out with his son he cancelled the maintenece that was due, I’m sure that even if he has fallen out with his 11yr old son he should still pay the maintenece…????….how does he think this is right ???? I never stop my son going I leave it up to him if he wants to go and I get advise from a solicitor last tear who told me because he is gettin to an age to decide for himself that a court would go with what he wants so if he choices not to go I shouldn’t force him just leave it up to him. I feel that his making it out like its me stopping him seein his son.
I get 5 a week csa off my x but he is due to marry his new partner will my csa increase do they combine income they get
Can someone please help!!!
How do csa work out payments to the mother if u only have the child stayin over one night every 2 weekends.
Wkend 1. At mums
wkend 2. At dads
wkend 3. at dads
Wkend 4. At mums?
Hi I don’t usually air my problems on the net but…
Today my ex is getting more money out of me! Even though I pay her without fail they have just decided to bump up the rate and say I now owe her more money on top! With out even letting me know! I haven’t seen my kid for about 3yrs she used to let me see him then boom she cut me off! And I’m now denied access by her and she has blackmailed my mother into banning me from her house when he is around? And to top it off she has another child with some a##hole who was beating her infront of those poor children and I wasn’t even informed! I had to hear with from my mother. I’m trying to move on with my life with a baby on the way atm but she constantly dangles visitation only to sweep it away from me. I can’t afford a lawyer or court costs. And yet she gets it for free…..I’m sure my rights are being denied…but I feel powerless…any ideas?
My partner is going through hell again his ex demanding csa he hasn’t been allowed to see his kids in years she won’t let him we can bearly afford to live as it is. I don’t know full story but he is amazing with my little girl who loves him (her dad doesn’t want to see her) and by all accounts is an amazing farther figure to her. This is going to be hard for him and I just want to help him but I don’t k ow how we can’t afford court any advice at all its not fair on the good dad’s out there
my husband has three children by 2 different mothers the oldest is 14 and we see her on a regular basis his youngest 2 he used to see until his ex married another woman, now they saying he has no rites to see them, as she has parental rights and been through court to change their name, without his permission he hasnt seen them apart from in passing for 3 years its killing him we got married almost 4 weeks ago he pays csa through his benifits but i work full time will he have to pay more now as we married although we dont see them or is there anyway we can fight to see them admitily they did have a bad relationship but he is a good dad.
I’m yet another victim of the CSA.
after a series of events, I had no choice but to kick my ex out of the house. within 2 months, she stopped me seeing my two kids. £25,000 later in court, I am not only at a stage where I have only been able to write letters and send pictures to them. (following a series of false allegation – which have all been proven to be false)
Anyway… thats not the story…. but…..
I have a reasonably well paid job with a company car and maximum pension payments per month.
I am looking at changing my job, but will recieve a salary (as usual) but I will get a car allowance. I don’t mind paying to bring up my children, but there SHOULD be a limit as to how much it costs per child at a certain age!
My ex is fully aware that… the longer I dont get to see the kids, the more money she gets from me and puts into her new boyfriends failing business – which she has openly told mutual friends.
The thing is…. I don;t really have to work right now, as I have no debt and live with my fiancé.
The choices which I have available to me now – Set up my own company and do the self employed thing, or quit work, get benefits and live off my girlfriend (which would be as bad as my ex’s boyfriend.)
If I get a new job with Car Allowance, she will NOT only get 20% of my net, but also 20% of my car allowance too….. or am I wrong?
I terms of a variation, I have tried to claim back my fees for traveling to the courts while filing for access (I live 50miles away from the court where the children are living near to)
Anyone any poiinters??? I suspect I know that I cant get a variation, and I will lose 20% of everything if I get a new job…..
Ange
I feel for you. Im going through EXACTLY the same thing. My ex had no interest in my son until i got myself a new partner. I took my boy everywhere with me. i took him football, i took him martial arts. My son lived with me and visited his dad regular until i got with my new man. My son went to see his dad for a week and was never returned. that was 8 months ago. My boy has decided to stay with his father as time has taken its toll and he has now become settled in his new environment. I have not been allowed contact in all this time. The reasoning for this is simply revenge and money. I always worked and supported the family and paid the bills. His father REFUSED to work sitting back in his chair on the computer all day while i worked two jobs as an engineer week days and waitress weekends to keep the family fed. I even had to cook every day and walk the dogs when i got home from work. Eventually i had enough so we parted. Things were ok ish until my new man arrived on the scene and jealousy took over. My son has been brainwashed by his father and calls his dads new girlfriend mum which is so hurtful. Neither of them work. My son is 13 so no baby sitting required there. The £ signs lit up when he realised that my partner is comfortable financially. He now relises that he can get paid for sitting on his arse at my expense AGAIN. What a loser and my son is going to learn this bad behaviour from his lazy useless father. Bitch women have been doing this crap to men and getting away with it for years.
Is there any point as nothing will change? Luckily I bought my own home b4 I met the father of my 14yr old son. We had our gorgeous son & my partners mother was dying of cancer, so my family & myself paid out thousands on a wedding, we married in the june & his mum died in september & he left us in november to go boying it round town & never looked back. our son was just turning 2yrs. To begin with they said he owes me around 7000. 12yrs on csa have never got a penny out of him, even tho I find out where he’s living & working. They said nowt they can do, they’ve taken him to court many times. For the judge to aww poor bloke, not nuff evidence & throws it outa court. He now got another baby & getting married again soon. My partner now of 2yrs is the other way around & they have 4 kids, his wife of 20yrs slept around behind his back, whilst his dad was dying of cancer. She left, but he let her back in the house as didnt know what to do, he left & slept rough for a while. Then when his dad died moved in with his mum. His ex claims every penny she can is engaged to another man, who lives in my partners house, but wont buy him out unless we prove he’s staying there. My partner has lost his job thru stress & the devorce & has been quite depressed, which resulted in him callapsing at my house, rushef to hospital & a 1hr opperation took 5hrsvto remove his gallbladder. Csa still keeping on at him, ring every wk, talk to him like s..t & he just cant get his head up to get a job as has no money. Any pennies he had was in his house, anything in his pocket went on the divorce which also put him in debt. Csa dont care, his wife canceled things at the bank without him knowing which nearly got him black listed & in more trouble. His ex plays games with his twin girls of 8yrs,his older kids he has paid 3 yrs over what he shldv & csa said tough. There attitudes stink!! He has dealt with sooo many csa people that dont read his case & say different things to him & lie to him. Its a circus & a disgusting ddisgrace. Iv also wrote letters to The mp Tessa munt to get no reply. Poor f…ing show!!
Please can any one help me??
My daughter leaves school this June I pay CSS direct from my wages, I have no contact with my daughter and do not no if she is going on to collage, how will I find this out?? And when will my payments stop.
CSA and the legislation behind it (it is not law) is simply not fit for purpose. They have created a system where there is only one way traffic in regards to the way the system works and that is against the nrp. You would think in any civilised country you would need to be proved to be wrong but the CSA can act without any form of due dilligence and actually encourage fraud. As a warning to others do not believe the propaganda about personal agreements unless you have a notorised copy of an agreement. If you make any bank transfers make sure it is clearly labelled child maintenance payment and record everything. I am now in the position that because I paid directly to the pwc she has been able to claim I have not paid anything and the csa want to extract 20k from me despite the fact I can show 35k worth of payments, can get sworn affidavits to back up my claims, there are records with the dwp from myself dating back yeaes declaring the fact i was paying and she is a convicted benefit fraud. This organisation and its employees are the lowest form of life on the planet and lack any form of integrity. Regardless of any argument you have you will not win the only option is to hope the ex dies a sudden agonising death or to move on to pastures new. Too many families have been destroyed by this company (and it is a company registered at companies house) too many nrp have committed suicide because of the relentless destruction of their ability to provide and i the end cope. The only way it will change is if all nrps and pwcs make a stand for a fair system or every nrp in the country refuses to pay. For anyone who is going through the horror of dealing with these inhuman monsters you have every bit of sympathy I can muster you have a long and possibly fruitless fight on your hands regardless of how responsible you have been. Also I would love someone to explain to me how, given the stakeholders in the csa (judiciary, law society, cab, payroll association) that any decision given by them be lawful as it is simply collusion of the highest order amongst governmental organisations. Hopefully both I and my son (who even lives with me) will soon depart these shores never to return and as soon as I am naturalised I will be renouncing my british citizenship as I no longer want to be associated with a country that screws the responsible to pay for the feckless and idiotic. Unless there is a revolution of course in which case ii do have an axe to grind and then bury in someones head
do you still have to pay csa if you dont have PR at all ?
trying to find out
becuase i am over 400 miles away from him cart get down to see him/ dont have the money to as csa seems they like to take as much as they can do
I live 400miles away from my daughter and see her for 2days a month. When I do visit her I have to pay for a hotel for both of us to stay in. I’m currently not going through CSA because me and the ex have arranged an amount but ex is threatening me with them. Was wondering does the CSA take in account distance travelled(cost) and other special arrangements like hotels??
I have read all of these posts and we too are in the same boat with my husbands ex wife… shock. We took her to court and of course she got this on legal aid (before they changed it) and we had to pay £200 for the court action. We put the lot in. Prohibited steps, custody etc etc as its covered in one payment. So Its worth filling in all the paper work or you’ll need to pay another £200.00.
For those who can’t afford a solicitor you can do this yourself or go to the CAB as solicitors are required to do pro bono work. We were rejected as they thought we were doing a good enough job but in the end it paid off. We read loads of legal advice off the net and he challenged everything they said. The Judge was brilliant and shot her pitbull down when he said he too was a father and couldn’t imagine how my husband was feeling. It started with Supervised contact orders which you have to pay for then it went back to courts and finally we have her over night.
Expect to accused of doing things in front of your children and expect to have visits blocked at every chance they get. My advice is to record every pick up and drop off and store them – we have and its paid off. Only talk through email or text messages – this paid off in court when he was accused of doing something and in fact she had asked for it. That text message caused many red faces and the judge did not respond to well to her.
The CSA have been really good and they to have found the ex a bit difficult to deal with. They take distance into consideration and now they charge the parent a fee of £20 if they want to use them but if the paying parent is difficult they will slap an 20% extra fee on top of your monthly payments so be warned.
Be proud you are paying for your child and remember once that child finds out what has been happening god help the parent who is causing it. We felt like most of you guys and I still do now – Bitter. With our payment to her and her benefits etc she gets almost what I do in my monthly wage before she’s even done a days work – thank god they no longer take the partners salary into consideration.
New CSA will soon be rolled out to N R Fathers…..
I will tell you how it will affect me & you may be able to compare?
Firstly I have seen my two sons for 4 years in August 2014. Yes went to court & lost my custody battle.
Old CSA payments
Right My current CSA is £450 per month never missed a payment………
New CSA rules (If i CAN get a family based agreement)
I will pay £152 pounds per week or £658 per month…
New CSA rules if i CANT get a family based agreement)
I will pay £182 pounds per week or £788 per month.
Under the new CSA rules if the CSA administer the payments it will cost me a whopping £338 MORE…..
Thanks CSA
Hi James,
We have never missed a payment either and yet we do not pay anymore than what we used to under the old setup. Did your payments go up?
They told us that they wanted my husband and his ex wife to make an arrangement outside of the CSA and if she doesn’t comply then they would call her directly and ask why but if it failed they wouldn’t apply that additional to charge on that basis.
I like how the CSA do not take the paying parent’s circumstances into consideration before they decide on what should be paid.
I split with my ex two years ago arranged child payments between us then started asking for more and more I signed the house over to her when we split because I new she would struggle if we sold it for the kids sake I agreed to take nothing just clothes now she is going to go to csa,fed up not the word!!!
Hi
I am a farther with a family of my own, 2 children and due to marry,
A letter came through the door saying I have to pay csa to a child I’ve never seen from 10 years ago…
I don’t even know if it’s my child to start with.
What do I do?
My partner is seeing a solicitor next week. My partner has to pay £100.00 to the solicitor for a letter as my partner wants a DNA test on his son. The solicitor will then do a letter on your behalf,so it’s litigate and your back is covered.
I had been paying my ex for maintenance after going to court to obtain access to my son after we separated. this continued for about 16 months until I went to collect him one day and my ex denied me access saying I was mentally unstable. she had heard from my employer that I was suffering from depression and was suicidal. Shortly after that incident, I went to collect him again to find she had moved house. Since 2010 I have not seen my son. I had declared this to the CSA and they insisted on taking payments from me. Eventually after a work incident, I left my job as a police officer, I lost my house and was made homeless. I have been living with family and friends and also on the street.
I now have a small job working part time, three days a week which pays about £725 a month, enough to survive on.
The CSA have now sent me a letter saying I owe them 8K and they are considering taking me to court for non payment, despite having advised them that I have secured employment and my earnings. I supplied this information via the telephone and ensured that the call was recorded by the CSA.
The situation at work and by extension, in my life is looking better but I am still unable to see my son.
I have no chance of making the £8000 that the CSA are demanding and as such have no idea what to do now.
Any ideas welcome.
Could someone please tell me what you do if the ex won’t accept her court summons to attend child contact hearing? She didn’t accept the first one and now there is a second one awaiting her acceptance. Does this keep going until she does or do the police then take action