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Ex uses CSA money for expensive holidays

My daughter was moved 200 miles away against her will. She said at court she wanted to live with me but was ignored. I now have a 400 mile journey to see her. On top of this expense I buy her clothes and food when she is with me. Almost 20% of my salary goes to the CSA. My ex’s last two holidays have been to Australia and Florida. I haven’t been able to afford a holiday in years.

My girlfriend has a son from a previous relationship. She hasn’t heard from her ex in years. He hasn’t seen his son in years. Guess how much the CSA have managed to get from her ex? That’s right, not a penny.

Just another typical story.

19 thoughts on “Ex uses CSA money for expensive holidays

  1. with you pal csa take 40% off my salary nothing i can do about it dont even see the child living off £6 a week nightmare

  2. My ex purchased a new car instead of spending the money on my daughter. Not going to be used as a second tax free income for him anymore.

  3. … perhaps your ex OR/AND their OH (if they have one) works?

    Did your case with the agency commence before OR on/after 03/03/03?
    Do you receive a reduction for shared care or contact costs.
    If your GF and you live together, do you receive a reduction for a relevant other child?

    It would also seem your GF could do with some assistance dealing with her case.

    chall ~ afairercsaforall.co.uk

  4. Here's another case of PWC greed and PWC abusing the rights of the child!Mid point meeting… depends how reasonable the PWC is…. will PWC meet half way or will the selfishness continue in the take take PWC attitude as many other PWC's choose to do?

  5. I agree with you David, it should be enforced and if PWC is non compliant, she should be penalised for it!!!! The CSA should also be penalised for going against court orders of enforcements too!!!

  6. Yes I'd definitely request meeting up half way, or maybe changing the pattern of visits so that you have her every other weekend but for longer, or every 3 weeks and then for the whole of half term? I wouldn't think that she is using all your money on expensive holidays…kids do cost a fortune and I can vouch for that, my child costs me about £450 per month direct costs on a standard month. Why don't you ask her to detail exactly what her costs are each month then say that instead of paying via the CSA, you will pay exactly 50%, so 50% of clothes, shoes, trainers, school dinners, pre-school/after-school and holiday clubs, school trips, parties/presents, half the cost of a reasonable holiday (or agree that she funds one and you fund one to make it fair) etc.. that way although you may end up paying a varying amount each month at least you can be safe in the knowledge that you are paying half and don't feel ripped off. (if she agrees of course – but as a reasonable parent if it was me I would agree).

  7. And the absent parent who is not paying for the child you look after with your current partner should be subject to enforcement action for not paying for his child like he should do.

  8. I'm not at court as yet… I have access but only if I go down there with all the expense that entails, I can't afford contact if I pay the CSA! I will be heading to court if my ex doesn't relent, My family would even pay for her to come up here but NO, I am afraid that she might come to regret her stance!

  9. Any PWC who refuses contact with the child is simply not being fair to the child involved, it may make the man or woman caring for the child feel that they have a bargaining tool, but kids should never be used like that. Why dont the CSA spend their money and use their resources on sorting out some kind of face to face mediation between the parents and mutual agreement (like a contract for care, support and access which is fair) between the parents when they first separate? This way they are more likely to come to a realistic and fair amount of support and can take indivdual factors into account (like private schooling for example). I'm sure that if both parents agree and get a good level of access and feel that the amounts are fair there would be a hell of a lot less arguing and bad feeling.

  10. I like your idea maxine, but think of the incompetence that CSA replay on many occasions, dya think the CSA could manage to get that right too?

  11. Excellent idea Maxine, any parent actually thinking about the best interests of the children would deal with it before a court or csa would need to be involved!

  12. I also told my ex that we should pay 50-50% towards our child's expenses, including food, clothes, furniture, childcare etc and he agreed but in reality he never paid for 99% of things.For example, we agreed that I'd buy a breathing detector&baby monitor 2in1 for 80 quid and he said he would pay half of it as promised. After I had it ordered instore ( I had to pay in advance) I went to his workplace and showed him my original receipt that proved I paid 80 pounds. Guess what, he NEVER gave me the 40quid and he pretty much never paid half of anything (clothes, formula, nappies) ,apart from half of the pushchair's price and that's it. So this 50-50% doesn't really work out with NRPs who are not willing to contribute at all.

  13. Maybe the CSA need to be taken out of the equation altogether and the government fund some qualified family solicitors instead who invite the parents in to have a meeting or a series of meetings to thrash it out/agree. Yes the cost may be high for a solicitor but they could probably achieve more in 1 – 3 meetings of an hour or two than many of the CSA employees achieve when they are dealing with your case for months or years, sending off for information from HMRC, getting court orders etc… At least you would be dealing with someone who has an understanding of law and can make both parents be realistic. My view is that both parents should be offered an option like this and encouraged to attend/commit, and then if there is a refusal on each part then enforcement action be taken. What annoys me is that you often deal with a different person each time who doesnt know your full story or your partners…at least a mediator can get to know you and your ex partners,your relationship, who cares for the children in the mix, and can apply something which works better for both of you with no favouritism to either party.

  14. I'd be happy with 50%, I'd be happy with 30% if after a discussion with a mediator that was what was deemed fair to all parties. My ex wont support my daughter despite having his own company, 2 personal cars and a house he rents out whilst living in another, hey ho!If on here we can as a group come up with something thats fair that would be good. Does anyone have any ideas of what sort of system would work and how it could be fair? Maybe we could come up with some ideas and put them forward as a group to the CSA?

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