CSA lets employer pay DEO late

44 thoughts on “CSA lets employer pay DEO late”

1. More importantly why should the employer be forced to be involved in this in the first place. Why should thay have the administrative burdern as child maintenance has got nothing whatseover to do with them …….

2. My Maintenance is never on time… Some months i don't get any. Its the crappy CSA. It terrible when you depend on it and end up getting late payment charges on bills but its just what i put up with. The CSA will tell you something different every time you call. Try not to take it out on your ex.. I know its difficult but otherwise you'll end up hating each other and its really not healthy.

3. we already hate each other so that dosent bother me at all. i just hate the CSA for screwing up all the time.

4. I have heard so many of these stories lately, my friend went horrendously overdrawn with the bank because the CSA's system didn't send her the money in time, she now owes bank charges because of this, but do the CSA care, NO of course they don't !!! Another reason to abolish this system they can't, & will never do their jobs properly !!!!

5. I note these comments are made by those who state…"DEPENDING" on CSA payments…… does anyone else notice the need of depending on additional tax free income????I dont make CSA payments to my PWC but my child has benefited from my not making payments and it appears to me… has never had the same benefit from the monies previously paid via CSA payments made as DEO…Does that make me a bad and irresponsible father?????

6. no it doesnt allan at all….. DEPENDING !!!!! shame

7. Same happened to me. They told me this bullshit about a week or so ago. Assholes. I hate CSA.

8. ohh my heart bleeds for your friend.Perhaps, if she managed her money better, she wouldn't go overdrawn! yawn .. if you dont have money, you dont take it out, thats it!

9. i.e. once the CSA has finished robbing me, i still manage to balance my finances! Simple really,

10. Once I stopped the CSA robbing me….. My child has been better off… had it been my PWC with the money… my child would not have the same benefit nor would he benefit more… although those monies would have been more than sufficient…. he never benefited as much as he does now… I dont make anymore CSA payments… shared care!!!!! wahoooo!!!! my child now benefits from my pocket and its not the PWC benefiting any longer!!!!Down with arrogant selfish greedy CSA and PWC's

11. Very true, so long as you contribute towards your child then there isn't a problem. The CSA should only exist to hunt down those that want to shirk their responsibilities completely. Taking financial responsibility for your child is your business, not the PWC's!

12. PWC's dont know how to finance a budget….. It's spend spend spend while NRP foots the bill….It's never the child who benefits… just the PWC and CSA, CSA benefit by holding the payments to gain interest and release the money after designated time… Its a tax for having male genitalia!!!!

13. When will the PWC see that the money is for the child and not for herself???? And why do PWC's feel the need to rip off the child for their own satisfaction of personal selfish greed and arrogance?????

14. well said allan the csa and the pwc are a lethal cocktail, only there to seek revenge on NRP'S

15. Only generalise and only stereotype PWC if you know every single one of them personally and their situation.

16. I know plenty of them,I have said before there are some good pwc but not many. They use the csa to seek revenge on their ex and second families.The csa was designed for the children NOT BITTER PWC.

17. Exactly!!!!!… we have no contact wiv my husbands x an the child as she left him for his brother when he was small… She cut all contact an through the shame my husband walked away he tried to have contact but they made it very hard an as we moved away from the area she said none was better!!!! 7yrs later the recession hits an now the letters from CSa have come, not just for 1 child but for 2 (she was pregnant apparently when they separated although the brother attended the birth)… We have to pay for DNA and she is still refusing us contact!!! Thanks to the recession my husbands work is none existent but csa want £40 per wk per child!!! We have 3 children mortgage etc nightmare and we can't even c the kids the tramp says it's been too long!!!! If we can't c um an never hurt her or them we shouldn't pay for um!

18. Sylvia… I generalise only about greedy, selfish arrogant PWC's…. Do you consider yourself in that catagory of PWC??… if not… why bother to make comment in reference to my comment that clearly refers to the selfish arrogant PWC??… or did you not bother to read all my posts????… common sense dictates that my comments are towards the selfish, greedy arrogant PWC!!!!… clearly you present your arrogance!!!!… do you also present yourself as selfish and greedy?????

19. Greedy my ass. I finished university with a 2:1 as a single mother cuz this muthafucka didnt want to contribute jackshit and I showed everyone my determination as a mother to raise my child decently without this bastard's help.

20. My daughter will always have nice clothes to wear and good food to eat along having a roof over her had and warmth. We dont need this bastard. If he doesnt pay child support, good for him, I'll always make sure my daughter doesnt miss out on anything. Fuck him and fuck his uninterested family (grandmum, granddad and aunty, uncle). My daughter will always respect me because I was there for her when she was very very ill, when she needed food, clothes etc. And I never used her like a pillow on the sofa that if i wanted her she was there, if not then i went to f….. around with all kinda women.

21. Hi Nikki,

    Once an employer has made a deduction, they have until the 19th of the following month after the deduction was made, to make the payment to the agency.

    chall ~ afairercsaforall

22. Sylvia… If I choose to use my rights to the freedom of speech to stereotype and generalise about the selfish, greedy arrogant PWC…. then I shall……If you dont like my comments and you are offended by the comments I make by the using of that right… then I suggest you lobby to parliament to have that right removed… either that….. or you could well use your right to the freedom of remaining silent!!!!!

23. U can use ur rights to the freedom of speech but make sure u emphasise in every comment u only talk about nasty PWC and not the good ones included.

24. Sylvia… why be offended by a comment if it does not personally describe you????

25. I note sylvia.. you'v made the same comment previously to comments I'v made myself on this forum in reference to selfish, greedy arrogant PWC's… I have often replied in similarity to my above responses to your comment… still I await those replies……& still you remain silent to my questions raised to your previous comments on this forum….How is it you are able to exercise your right to remain silent then… but choose to be able to use your right to the freedom of speech in reference to my comments where you accuse me of generalising and stereotyping PWC's?????Clearly I do not generalise or stereotype all PWC's as is clearly evident in my comments and my defence against your unreasonable, unfounded, illogical allegations of generalising and stereotyping PWC's!!!!

26. I wonder if Sylvia now chooses her right to remain silent should be put to use??????

27. Sylvia… your comments indicate a large intense scale of anger and frustration, but if you read my posts properly intstead of skimming them and seeing only what you want to see, then you would clearly note that my comments are directed at the greedy, selfish arrogant PWC's… I suggest that prior to making such outbursts in the future that you attempt to curb your anger towards my comments as If I were to be your NRP… I have no need to swear like you do…. And trust me… I swear a lot in my normality of general conversation… specifically with the lads!!! Clearly you present your words with venom… and use that venomous attack in reference to your NRP not providing… your own comments are that you dont need him and your comment… good for him if not paying…. also suggest you dont need his money… but yet you continue to complain that you recieve nothing… I fail to understand the logic or reasoning behind your outburst…. please enlighten me!!!

28. I do not have to make my posts directly towards your so called NASTY PWC…. Most PWC's are nasty…In fact… my experience is that most women are nasty after a split even if no children are involved… at these times… most women want to hurt the mans finance… i.e. where a woman will comment.. I'll take him for everything he's got….( NOTE: WHILE NO CHILDREN INVOLVED)…. explains clearly the selfish, greedy arrogant ex…. out for the money, greed begets greed, much wants more….. Need I say more??????

29. It is best to keep all comments as neutral as possible unless you are putting across your own story.If you haven't interfered with the access/custody arrangements of the NRP and have tried to sort out a private arrangement then the CSA should be involved but only after you've tried to resolve the issue in a reasonable and fair manner.The CSA and the PWC are a lethal combination, why on earth they actually gave the PWC the power to interfere is beyond me. For the record, not all PWC's use it to that end, their kids interests in general come first!Well at least the raison d'être of the CSA has gone so hopefully soon enough, they will get rid of this institution…..

30. i take great offense to sylvias language on this site obviousley the truth hurts, very bitter, no need at all, i read all your coments allan and i applaud you straight to the point

31. I personally choose to be neutral in my comments but direct my generalised comments in regards to greedy selfish arrogant PWC's who collude with the CSA to financially destroy the NRP…. clearly a comment that offends Sylvia when she doesnt read my post properly…. maybe if she read my posts properly and if she aint the greedy selfish arrogant PWC then she will not be offended about my remarks about PWC's

32. Sylvia… in no way have I critisised about how you raise your child… I am pleased you have managed this but clearly you do indicate that you require financial help else you would have no complaint… but also evidently.. you comment that you do not rquire financial help…. there appears a contradiction to your own comments… I fail to understand your self contradiction… please enlighten me!!!

33. For a person who claims themself to be a Uni grad woth a 2:1…. I note your comments appear very Council Estate and Chavvy orrientated… unless you are the woman that comes under the catagory were comment refers to….you can take the woman out of the Estate but cant take the estate out of the woman……………. I do not expect those sort of comments that you present ..from a Uni grad with so much intelligence!!!Does anyone else?????

34. I note also that sylvia responded quickly to the comment of greedy…Greedy my ass was the first approach in one of Sylvia's posts…. This being a possibility that Sylvia assumed that the comment was directed at her rather than to her in reference to my questioning of greed and selfishness…. clearly she has not objected, refuted or opposed my comment of her arrogance in any shape or form!!!!!

35. i have always paid wot i owe wen told even though i ended up wit bank loan n broke. my babes r not a responsability their a joy n light of my life n though evry time i call csa i get spoken to like im scum the tone of voice the threats if i dare ask questions n y do i have arrears wen am upto date wit evry penny they ask for????? And the ammount of errors or lack of info they supposed to giv me lands me in more arrears!! Now latest is they want to check my income ova past yr or more coz again i giv them info on status change they dont listen then wen it finally sinks in and they realise their screw up they say sorry but stil put blame bk on me n demand cash Now!!! Worst of all till recently my kids didnt even see half of wot i was payin. Fortunately now ex has agreed to let me pay her direct which they can do sweet fa about lol though not without them again threatenin me " u will pay this at this time or else" we'l b bk n tryin to talk the ex out of it!!!! Asses!!! But for now a slightly quiter life wooohooo CSA sherman tankers. Piss up n brewery say the least

36. This has nothing to do with the NRP or their employer.
    I am both a NRP and my Company pay clerk.
    Recently CSA contacted me claiming I was 3 months behind in payments.
    I checked the Company bank statements to find that all 3 cheques had in fact been cashed by the CSA.
    They had lodged the cheques into their account without considering which NRP the cheque was from and to which PWC the money should go.
    The sooner all parties dealing with CSA realise their gross incompetence the sooner we can get an impartial ombudsman who will actually deal with the culprit in a manner which reflects private business.
    Anyone this incompetent in private business would have been dismissed

37. George, if you are paying direct, is the CSA case closed? Why are they still harassing you?

38. On the subject of my friend, she left her ABUSIVE, ALCOHOLIC husband when her youngest was only a year old, because he started on the othe 2 kids !! She went overdrawn because the CSA didn't pay her the money in time for her to pay for the KIDS bus fares to their secondary school, and had to find extra money for THEIR school lunches !!!The only benefit she gets is housing benefit, works full time and will do her upmost to keep her kids from her ex husband who, is still ABUSIVE towards her and the kids, he still drinks, he locked one of their kids in a cupboard last Christmas just for being there !! And he can't understand why his kids don't want to see him ??Just for the record, she didn't start getting the CSA money until earlier this year when the CSA put a DEO on her ex…….7 years with nothing, for 3 kids adds up……and then they messed up, so I think she is justified to be a bit annoyed the money didn't come in on time !!

39. Denise… your story is heard… we can only take your word that your comments are the truth and if it is true.. we can only sympathise with your friend… but clearly you comment that it is your friends situation…. Is your situation similar or different to your friends situation… and please comment in what way different or similar!!!!!There a several NRP's here who have PWC's make allegations to the family law courts and CSA (in regards to finances) similar to the information you just provided in reference to your friends situation….. and these NRP's have been denied access to their children when the allegations were totally untrue!!!!! The PWC has stated there was violence, abuse and in some cases have alleged rape against NRP!!!! These are the type of PWC who use every available opportunity to abuse the law in order to have control of the life of the NRP… surely you can appreciate that there will be several doubts raised!!!My reasons for saying this is…. it is a fact, we can only summise as to what happens behind closed doors and you can only say what you have been told…. no 1 really knows what happens behind other peoples doors… I know this from being a child… suffering physical and emotional abuse at the hands of my father.. a PWC… my mother was my NRP…..My father presented himself as an upstanding, religious, law-abiding.. human being!!!! his actions I now see being totally contradictory… yet everyone who supposedly knew him would not believe what I was actually suffering nor would they believe that my father could do what he did!!!!You'll see it on jeremy Kyle show… allegations, accusations to friends…. It comes back later such allegations were lies…….. enabling accuser to play victim and be a martyre!!! Oh look at poor me… I'v suffered this and that!!!!! how many NRP's have had PWC make such allegations to draw support to prevent contact between NRP and child in order to get more money from the NRP..?????..Both NRP and PWC are responsible for supporting the child… equally…Its not about NRP must support the child financially though is it?????Why make NRP suffer financially to attempt to get one over the NRP… and the NRP is going to have to pay!!!…????the responsibility….. financially also….. is to be shared Equally!!!!note: EQUALLY!!!!!!!!It shouldnt be about the battle of the sexes either…he did this she did that…. too many PWC's abuse this CSA power and the power of the law!!!!Call me a chauvanist if you like but femenism is just as equal to chauvanism…. Feminism is not better than chauvanism… they are equal….. Equality in the battle of the sexes…. Equality in the raising of a child….. Why should it cost the NRP more than it costs the PWC to raise a child?????????… It should be equal!!!!!!!The NRP should have the right to support themself and their new partner/family and their children financially… (new and from previous relationship with PWC)!!!!! not the PWC being supported by NRP.. NRP's new partner/family and children from previous relationship with the PWC!!!!!Just an example of what several NRP's are accused of so that the PWC gets more money!!!!!Why should the NRP suffer financially?????????? What right has the PWC to demand the CSA financially cripple and destroy the life of the NRP!!!! cripple and destroy your NRP's life… you also cripple and destroy your child's life!!!!! FACT!!!!!If the NRP suffers… so does your child!!!!! FACT!!!!!!Lets hope your friend's story isnt as fake as the stories many PWC's make to cost the NRP of a life and their child!!!!

40. lee have just sorted direct payments n they are in the process of closin it but wen i told them wot was agreed wit pwc the reaction was " u will pay ….. On …" or else n tryin to talk the pwc out of it. After she spoke to them even she agreed their tone n actions were out of order!!! Shock is she agreed pmsl

41. Alan, My story is I am married to a NRP who is appealing against the CSA for arrears he doesn't owe with regard to his youngest daughter he has not seen for two years because his bitch of an ex-wife made false allegations against him !! This was proved without any reasonable doubt by the Police !!So I have seen first hand what the CSA can & will do to a NRP with regards to taking money he can't afford, they reckon he owes over £10000 in arrears not only for this child but another daughter who is now 19 and out of education. The CSA have messed up big time with his case, they took nearly 2 years to re-assess him when he left his wife despite him telling them he had left her after a month had passed. They have written evidence stating this, yet insist he didn't tell them this fact. They are now telling him he should have been paying CSA for his youngest since Sept 2008, despite there being a private agreement in place that he paid half the mortgage until the house was sold, they say this should not have been passed, despite them having it in writing from the court stating the facts.The ex has lied and made fraudelent claims against several court orders, which we have now passed information about to the CSA to investigate, our case worker has stated it is in the process of being passed to a Policy Team with regards to to legal implications in our case, we have no idea what this means but have had to send copies of the court orders that were in place showing that my husband was fulfilling his part of the court order and she has in fact breached it..My friend is telling the truth with regards to her ex, her kids have confirmed what he is capable of and now don't want anything to do with him, my friend ancouraged contact and never stood in their way if they wanted to see him but her middle child who is 12, stated I never wnat to see my father ever again after he locked me in that cupboard……….what kind of parent could even do that to a child !!I sympathise with anyone who has the misfotune to be picked on by this organisation they need to be abolished and a more fairer system put into place.I also have 2 children from a previous marriage, my ex pays me privately and I just hope this continues as it suits both of us and the kids get what they need when they need, I am one of the lucky few I know but that doesn't stop us having it hard.. Because the CSA don't take my husbands outgoings into account when they re-assess him, they think because the money is there on his pay slip we must have it to pay out. We live in rented accommodation because we can't get a mortgage, due to his bitchy ex-wife, and just about scrape by after all the outgoings are taken into account.

42. denise… wish you the best of luck getting things sorted!!!

43. Thank you Allan, Our fight goes on !!

44. Alan Morrell what a nasty, ignorant excuse for a human being you sound like…