CSA is legislation only

January 6, 2014

Nothing in the United Kingdom is law until you have made a contract to it. CSA is legislation only. Legislation needs two parties to make an agreement and sign the paperwork,then and ONLY then does it become law.

The CSA Took me to court in 2010. I didn’t even have to appear. I won. Simply by sending into the magistrates a piece of paper called a Statutory Declaration. This removed all legal powers from the CSA.

The CSA are famous for lying and cover ups as well as forging docs and falsely signing “in house” liability orders which again is not legal.
Anyone facing court action cannot be charged or convicted until they have been heard. Its called a common law rights. And common law is more powerful and above all parliament, courts, MP’S AND JUDGES. Common law is the law of the land and has absolute priority!

Do not sign the assessment or post in your driving licence/passport, and you have “no agreement” which by law means “no contract” and without a contract no judge or court in the land can touch you!

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41 Responses to “CSA is legislation only”

  1. Paul Jones on January 6th, 2014 9:11 am

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  2. SkippyDo2 on January 6th, 2014 9:20 am

    RT @CSAHell: CSA is legislation only: Nothing in the United Kingdom is law until you have made a contract to it. CSA … http://t.co/e2ph9n…

  3. Karen Todd on January 6th, 2014 9:39 am

    Not sure I understand . Did they take you to court because u didn’t pay? N what exactly was the form for that u sent into court ?

  4. Harry Woods on January 6th, 2014 9:45 am

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  5. Leighanne Mingo on January 6th, 2014 9:45 am

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  6. Karen Todd on January 6th, 2014 9:48 am

    As far as I know signing a statutory declaration means you are agreeing legally that the child is yours in which case surely that’s actually helping the csa ?

  7. Andrew Jones on January 6th, 2014 9:59 am

    Ok then. Y are they taking my wages off me then. I dont want them to do it.but they are.

  8. Kayleigh Lexiyaz Mummy on January 6th, 2014 10:15 am

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  9. Craig on January 6th, 2014 11:12 am

    Do you have a template please?

    I sent them a Statutory Declaration but they ignored it

  10. Lisa on January 6th, 2014 11:28 am

    Have you any other information regarding this statutory declaration, did it get in the press? So many people suffering at the hands of the scum your help could be invaluable

  11. Tim Marshall on January 6th, 2014 12:00 pm

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  12. Kevin Nash on January 6th, 2014 12:00 pm

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  13. William Clark on January 6th, 2014 12:15 pm

    Im on the same boat been taken money from me for nearly two years I’ve never consented to this as its not law its an act of parliament and I have never consented tobbe governed by such an act so what can we do?????

  14. Sandra Macleod on January 6th, 2014 12:39 pm

    Scotland has diff laws the rest of UK. This explains the legal action the Child Maintenance Service (CMS) can take if the paying parent lives in Scotland, Asking sheriff officers to sell paying parents’ belongings, Freeze money belonging to, or owed to, the paying parent, Take away the paying parent’s driving licence or send them to prison, Even if the parent is disqualified from driving or sent to prison, they will still have to pay all of the money they owe, if u have made an arrangement between yourself and the mother the csa don’t get involved. It takes 2 to make a child therefore both should pay

  15. Sandra Macleod on January 6th, 2014 12:51 pm

    Scottish law is diff from rest of uk, watch what u post on f/b twitter etc I got a letter from them about the absent parent after asking the usual questions they ask if he is on any social networking sites, does he have an e-mail address, does he own a car, mobile phone, boat or pc???? all sorts of mad shit, I still had no info on him but they tracked him down and since last year I get a mthly payment of anything from £50 -£100 my son is 13 so for 12yr he paid nothing I haven’t signed anything. xxx

  16. Sandra Macleod on January 6th, 2014 12:53 pm

    If you have a child why shouldn’t you pay towards their upbringing????

  17. William Clark on January 6th, 2014 1:18 pm

    I totally agree with you I dont mind paying for my son what I didnt like is that we both had a kid and when we did split we came to an agreement which I paid her directly via standing order for many years and one day she decided that she wanted more money I said what the csa calculator says I should pay thats what im sticking to as well as all other gifts etc now I have a deduction on earnings all because she said I didnt pay problem was I proved I was paying but didn’t make a difference I never wanted the csa involved

  18. William Clark on January 6th, 2014 1:23 pm

    And also she actually gets less from csa than she did me as greed got the better of her but I’d still not deal with the csa

  19. Sandra Macleod on January 6th, 2014 1:36 pm

    The problem is it’s the main provider/carer that gets to apply to go through CSA they should have contacted you, if u already had an agreement with her they take nothing to do with payments, at the end of the day she lost out and the main thing is u are there for your son that’s what he will take with him as he grows up not what the CSA take off of you xxx

  20. Sandra Macleod on January 6th, 2014 1:46 pm

    At least if the payments are going through the CSA it’s proof u pay child maintenance with standing orders it’s her word against yours that the payments were for your son xxx

  21. Sally Armstrong on January 6th, 2014 2:13 pm

    Woman should not be allowed to use the CSA as a weapon.
    If a private agreements are in place they should be kept that way.
    If the woman for whatever reason or the PWC gets the arse and wants more money they should go through the courts.
    The CSA was set up for fathers who didn’t pay not for fathers who do who have unreasonable ex wives who want to just punish for the sake of it

  22. Sandra Macleod on January 6th, 2014 2:15 pm

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  23. Tracie Shafie-Nia on January 6th, 2014 2:15 pm

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  24. Pete on January 6th, 2014 2:23 pm

    I find that this is a very interesting post, and I am not saying that this post is just fictional or really did happen. Would be very grateful if the person whom put this post up could share which court and when this was achieved. I am not saying that this person is telling porkie pies, am merely looking at the bigger picture. I have searched many court listings and not found. If this is true and he was successful I fear that this has been silenced or covered up to stop the flood gates opening for further potential wins. I do hope that the person whom posted does not take offence at my comment. But would be ever so grateful if you kindly would share which court and the date
    Regards

  25. William Clark on January 6th, 2014 3:24 pm

    Csa is a weapon and does get abused every father or mother should pay equally my point is was paying my fare share then csa get involved contact my employer then so called arrears appeared should be a fair system for both parents

  26. Adrian on January 6th, 2014 4:14 pm

    Some of your facts are right. But look at it like this. You do not have to sign any document for it to be legal and binding.
    One instance of this is wonga.com. Where by you accept the agreement by simply clicking I agree
    Another one is your gas bills. Electric bills. Tv licence.
    Now goverment agency’s. Such as national insurance. Tax. Council tax. Has anyone in the land if the living ever signed a document to say yes that’s me and I will pay you x amount. No is the answer
    The last I heared the csa was at court was for breaking human rights.
    If the state say you owe money then you owe money.
    Your guilty until proven innocent and I’ve yet to see a high street solicitor take in the csa and win.

  27. Ptolemy Edwards on January 6th, 2014 4:34 pm

    Well I have a standing order for every week, thank god I’ve not been evolved with the CSA
    . But that does not stop my ex stopping me seeing my son. Or in truth. Stops my son from seeing his father and the experiences and days out with his father. I asked my ex who would learn him too swim. We were going regular. She said that she would pay for
    Someone too do it is it me or she doesn’t get it?

  28. Sandra Macleod on January 6th, 2014 4:45 pm

    She has obviously said that u hadn’t paid anything towards raising your son it’s people like her that sicken me I would be happy if my kids dads wanted to be part of their lives the money means nothing to me, I never contacted the CSA for any of my kids they got in touch with me xx

  29. Sandra Macleod on January 6th, 2014 4:46 pm

    Totally agree

  30. Ptolemy Edwards on January 6th, 2014 4:47 pm

    He’s five years of age. Not 21 or something wierd.

  31. Sandra Macleod on January 6th, 2014 4:50 pm

    That’s why I say go through the CSA then there is proof u pay, a standing order can be for whatever she says like u owed her money etc x

  32. Ptolemy Edwards on January 6th, 2014 4:53 pm

    Didn’t know that.

  33. Sally Armstrong on January 6th, 2014 5:37 pm

    Ptolemy Edwards why not put on the standing order child maintenance.
    Stay away from the CSA they are vile .

  34. Garry Roe on January 6th, 2014 6:06 pm
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  36. William Clark on January 6th, 2014 6:34 pm

    Ptolemy Edwards as long as you put childs name and c maintenance as ref to ex partners account

  37. Author Chris Jones on January 6th, 2014 9:32 pm

    Sandra Macleod what you say about csa about keeping track of monies is how it shud be however the csa are disgusting and terrible they only target dads who do pay they make up arrears they harrass and bully you and if you offer to pay them then they take it that ur easy and keep putting payments up then wen its too much they take direct from wages add further arrears then tell ex dont let him see kids and you will get more from him. Some mothers don’t even recieve the money and the csa lie lie lie then lie some more just before they lie again they once took 600 a wk off me ex got 400 s week it got me n ex at war she denied wat I was paying so I showed her psyslips wat was being taken she phoned csa and they still said they were taken 400 from me and lied however I was also on phone to csa at the same time in the same room as my ex and they told me that 600 a wk was going straight to ex so me n ex swopped phones csa on both lines did not know wat to say. The csa are liers n crooks if only it was as easy as you say but wen I asked for a statment I was 9000 in arrears. They harrassed me for months to pay it until I did some digging and they admitted the arrears were only 200. Big drop eh. Csa avoid at all cost

  38. Sandra Macleod on January 6th, 2014 11:09 pm

    If your name is on his birth lines then u have equal rights with his mother as long as he was born after 2003 which he obv was

  39. Mike Hunt on January 8th, 2014 12:46 am

    William Clark I was the same as you.. They all get too greedy.. When they find out they will get less the next step is to stop you having overnight contact.. They then claw back a few extra quid.. Pathetic.. You only accrue arrears if any from when the CSA first contact you… They can’t say “you separated ten years ago therefore you owe maintenance backdated for ten years” . They shouldn’t either issue Deo as long as you pay regular maintenance.. Did you have thousands of pounds of arrears? The bunch of them are liars and criminals.. They don’t chase absent fathers because it’s too much like hard work.. The CSA also have collection targets to meet so why do you think they invent arrears and chase all the nrps who already pay?. Collection bonus.. KERCHING… They have no redress.. Ice, ICO, phso, solicitors, the national press, appeal judges they are all in this together.. They are untouchable..

    How do we expose these scum for what they are?, for ruining so many lives, for plunging second families into poverty… Answers on a postcard please….

    If you are reading this how can we bring these oxygen theives down??

  40. ronaldd mcdonald on January 8th, 2014 9:26 pm

    Sandra you really annoy me, My ex broke up with me 6 months before my son was born and moved to Scotland from england, I have paid every month since he was born and I have paid more than the csa amount, I have also only seen him 4 times even though I got a job in Scotland (near no freinds or family) and moved to be close to him, now 6 months later decided to go through csa because she doesnt trust me even though I HAVE NEVER MISSED A PAYMENT AND SHE HAS LIED AND BROKEN HER PROMISES MULTIPLE TIMES

  41. Adrian on October 9th, 2016 12:16 pm

    I dont think peeps here are getting it are they. Many guys here saying “It takes two to make a child” and you should pay… Err yes correct. So why cant both parents grow up and sort out their own issues, stop acting like children yourself. However, what has the CSA got to do with your personal and private business? Would you like it if I came intervening in your private family affairs telling you what you can or cannot do? Well this is the problem of the CSA. Its not about the welfare of the Child in question, they do it to rake in revenue for the Government. Lets not be small minded here guys.

    They are a third party interloper who has no right trespassing over your property, family or children. You didnt need the CSA to get married, live together and have a child did you? no. So why anyone accepts them in difficult times? Anyone who wishes to use the CSA is simply putting more £££ into governments pockets so we can afford to go to war. It really is that simple guys. You are being fooled by ideological warfare and the fact that kids live in poverty. What a joke.

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