CSA demand Five Thousand Pounds from me
I’ve been fighting the CSA now for 16years.
My marriage broke up in 1991.
I’m a UK national, and became a victim of the CSA in 1993, when I received a simple enough looking form from the agency asking about my employment details, income, address, etc after the break-up of that marriage from which I have one son (who was 10 in 1993). Having nothing to fear, as I was still paying EVERY bill at the former marital home as if I was still living there (mortgage, food,Electricity, gas. household ins., car, petrol..the lot), I popped it in the mail and forgot about it while I continued to pay these bills as well as find/fund a flat for myself.
In December 1995..out of the blue…I received a bill from the CSA for some £5.5K plus an assessment that I should payan ADDITIONAL £400/month on top…this for a child who lived large parts of the week with me and, who ultimately LIVED PERMANENTLY with me. (It later transpired that I had come to the attention of the CSA because of a false claim made elsewhere in the benefit system by my (now ex) wife, ….despite her having THREE jobs herself. !)
From December 1995, there followed what can only be describedas the mother and father of wars of attrition on me by the agency, who at various intervals, calculated, re-calculated, then calculated again my “liability” for child maintenance…maintenance that I did not, do not, and never have owed. This period was compounded by the fateful Saturday morning post where I received not one, not two…..etc, but no fewer than 6(six) separate envelopes from the agency with EACH alleging child arrears (varying in amounts up to £16,000) and none of whom agreed with the other !!!!
One can by this time perhaps imagine the effects that the stress surrounding such ALLEGED debts …to a powerful and draconian government organ…was by now having on my health, both physically and mentally, but regardless of what I did ,said, or to whom I made representation at the agency, this mindless dragon of state was not deflected from it’d blind intention to steal my money.
I was of course by this time,engaging solicitors, writing to my MP etc in order to seek respite from the agencies claims, but in the interests of brevity, these came to be of no avail.
Nonetheless, and quite unexpectedly, a letter was received by me one day whereby the CSA actually recognised that their performance had “fallen short of standard” and that, as a consequence, and without any request for compensation from me, they arbitrarily AWARDED ME the sum of £100 for my trouble. This however, proved to be a false dawn, inasmuch as the CSA STILL contended (without proof) that I was still liable for a £16,000 debt for alleged child arrears. This merely resulted in my redoubling of my efforts to have the agency both “explain” both their calculations and their actions, and while engaged in telephone conversation with a member of their staff, I accidentally learned of their intent (never intimated to me) to “arrest” my salary from my employer. Now, quite apart from the financial difficulty such action would have begun, I realised that there would soon be a very serious question re my financial affairs such as would be difficult to explain to my employer who in the normal course of events trusted me, on a daily and on-going basis, with the safe management of literally MILLIONS of pounds worth of his money and assets…nonetheless, and by the skin of my teeth, I was able to persuade the CSA to defer their intended action. By this time, I was of course in receipt of some £100 of the AGENCIES money and, following discussion with my solicitor, we decided to pay the CSA the monthly sum of £10, along with an attendant monthly letter stating that such monies were being paid without ANY admission of guilt or liability, and without prejudice. These payments were continued by me up till and including January 2001, by which time my son was 18years old, and outwith the interest of the agency. I then advised the CSA that as far as I was concerned that unless I heard from them, I would regard the matter as being closed.
It was also clear that by this time, and purely on account of the huge stress placed upon me by this unwarranted pursuit, that my health was in serious decline and with the huge assistance of both my GP and a regular visiting psychiatric nurse, I narrowly avoided suicide on a number of occasions.
Nonetheless, it was clear to all who knew me both professionally an socially, that I was no longer fit to continue working, and by the end of 2001 my employer discharged me with a medical pension, and I have not worked since.
By now, my dealings with the CSA had seemingly finished, and I went about the task of slowly recovering at least SOME elements of good mental health, to the extent that, in 2005 I re-married, and ultimately moved to live in retirement in France.
Indeed that might reasonably have seemed to be the end of this sorry tale but, on the 5TH June 2009 and with NO COMMUNICATION OF ANY KIND WHATEVER from the agency in the preceding 10…yes 10…years, I again received from the agency a letter (dated 27th May 2009) informing me that they had in fact implemented a Deduction From Earnings Order on my monthly medical discharge pension, in recompense of the “alleged” debt to them of £950…a figure that figured nowhere in the dozens of calculations down these many years.
I now find myself battling in the Scottish courts (whereI last lived in the UK) to have the CSA’s theft of my money returned to me. This of course results in a return of all the stress to which I was subjected all those years, and involves me in a great expense (and with money I do NOT have) to engage again solicitors to represent me (and my own travel and sustenance costs from france to Scotland) in fulfilling my serving a warrant on the CSA for the rightful return of all monies illegally seized by this government department.
The case will be heard in early August 2009, and I am full of dread and concern, not at the justice of my case (my conscience is clear on my actions in this matter at every stage) but at the possible return to those black, black days when my will to survive these allegations and actions will be tested yet again. Frankly, I have fears that should I fail, I will not any longer have the mental strength to recover again.
Will any /all fair -minded people out ther wish me well??……..or am I destined to be merely the latest victim of that long list of those who have fallen victim tomost evil and draconian of government bodies, with huge powers that mean they are in many ways ABOVE the law for the rest of us.
I hover between hope and despair….and will go to my grave secure in the knowledge that I am NOT GUILTY of any offence surrounding the financing of the care of my dear, dear son who, above all, gives me just a trace of a spark to go on and see this ordeal through to conclusion.
For anyone still reading thus far…my sincere thanks for your forbearance…and please help in any way you are able to revoke the evil powers f this unjust and unnaccountable government body.
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I can only sympathise strongly with you in this matter, having had similar dealings with them , My first marriage broke up with the ex-wifes infidelity and our only daughter of 18months was awarded maintenance of £20 per week with no maintenance for her mother/ex wife.this was in 1991. This was as she was on all the benefits she could claim etc single parent family(her choice).This equated to £86 per month. any more would be deducted from her benefits.needless to say there were things purchased and extra monies given but without the knowledge of the DSS which suited her fine
Then a letter dropped on the doormat stating that i must pay £86 per week~the CSA had gotten involved(still in its infancy stage) .
nothing I could do or say could lower the amount infact every phone call resulted in stress and shouting and an increase of the amount! I tried paying less, they slapped a DEO on me, i changed jobs 3 times but they still DEO`d me. I was overseas for 6 months working and stopped paying them. as soon as i came back they DEO`d me again , The arrears mounted up to over £12k from their calculations~not even concerned now how they have worked it out it was hard work enough.The thing was a vicious circle in order to pay them and live and pay the debts left over from the marriage and the divorce costs/settlement etc (you get the picture) i was increasingly doing more and more overtime .I was paying over £550 per month for 12 months at 1 stage. The only thing i could do was to stop working extra, get the company to bank my overtime and extra pay for 3 months(at the start of the Tax year) so i had minimal earnings showing against my NI number and put my low slips in for a re-assessment. They only brought it down to the figure they initially wanted and i thought well thats better than I can get without stopping working altogether(i have always worked)So after paying their requirements plus an amount towards the arrears by DEO, after 7 years did i manage to convince them to remove the DEO on the understanding that i will continue to pay them…or else…..DEO…..
This enabled me to move house as i could get out of my negative equity home(big in the 90`s) remarry and have some more children…….!
I never managed to hold down a relationship for 12 yrs due to the CSA and stress /grief caused, I lost any contact with my daughter(21 in september) haven’t seen her for 14 years again to the CSA.
With the old system i was a complete expert on which payment of which part of the applied formula(at the time) enabled me to a reduction of the carer element, at different stages i.e. birthdays.
At her 19th birthday i stopped my payment of £240+pounds a month, to be written to within a week saying a DEO was going to be applied……WOW at last some efficiency , i was really impressed. I rang them on my mobile to play the merry-go- round of which department, CAST team,which branch and who was finally allowed to deal with me to ………
They said that the payment would be carried on at the present rate to clear the arrears within 12 months..Ballcocks to that.
I said that after i moved house and all the increased costs etc i managed to arrange the payment towards my arrears to £30 per month which they almost quite happily settled for because at the time they were being ripped apart by the media etc.. I had £5k remaining to pay off my arrears an offered to pay them in full with a clearing payment. They declined stating the policy is due to government blah blah.
So i offered to pay th £30 per month and they would only settle for £60 per month minimum payment, the reason being the arrears would drag on…ha chuffing ha.
Well after nearly 20 years of this crap you tend to become a little hardened and very cynical/sarcastic .either that or you get ill, go daft or in extreme circumstances ..well we know what they cause don’t we.
my final payment is Oct 09 , in the wise words of HOMER…..WOO-HOO!!
My thoughts are with you and your family.
The only way is to pay -it was a lesson i have learn`t the hard way
Andy Vickers
Telford
Shropshire
CSA Veteran 1991-2009