CSA constantly moving the goalposts

December 6, 2010

Been paying £500 a month towards my son since 2000 . Thats £60k income to my exwife and my son has seen very little of it. As I have fought the Gestapo that is the CSA over this they have kept changing the rules for when my payment would stop.

They said on his 16th birthday ….then when he was 16 they changed it to when he left full time education ….when he left in June they said they couldnt do anything until Sept ….In Sept I called and they said they still couldnt close it …..7 weeks later they tell me a new rule about a 20 week extention to child benefit claimants if the person who left college is registered with connexions….and she is still claiming child benefit ….totally being fleeced and feel totally powerless ..theymake the rules up as they go along .

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12 Responses to “CSA constantly moving the goalposts”

  1. Brokenfather on December 6th, 2010 5:50 pm

    I don’t think they move the goalposts.

    It’s more like they started the game and nobody bothered to tell the players the rules and there is not referee.

  2. Vikki JackDaniels Lomas on December 6th, 2010 9:21 pm

    unfortunately that is how child benefit works, so long as she is claiming CB you have to pay CSA, go onto direct.gov.uk and under child benefit pages it will tell u what the rules n regs are. CB stops in the sept after the child turns 16, if they go to college it continues till the sept of that year, the parent can apply for an extention which ur ex seems to have done, but at least u wll no f there is another step. we have just had all this with my step daughter. it's stupid but what the government says goes (unfortunately)

  3. Naomi Barnes on December 6th, 2010 9:49 pm

    Screw the good guys, ignore the gits, yes very typical.

  4. graeme on December 7th, 2010 8:01 am

    Or it is more likely their game, their football, their rules, their pitch and they didnt tell the opposition the time, date and place for kick off therefore forcing the opposition to admit defeat so they can claim the three points by default !!!!!!!

    Standard Gestapo tactics.

    Graeme

  5. chall on December 7th, 2010 10:05 am

    Hi John,

    This link may be helpful

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/childbenefit/keep-up-to-date/when-child-aged-16/leave-education.htm

    chall ~ afairercsaforall.co.uk

  6. Lisa Hunter on December 7th, 2010 10:10 am

    so so true Naomi!

  7. John on December 7th, 2010 10:16 am

    This corrupt lot would fit in nicely at FIFA, and should have been involved with Englands World cup bid! It just sums up how ridiculous this system is!

    E.G. You can be a non resident parent for a new born baby, and want to take financial responsibility until a reasonable age (which I believe is 16 and not 19). You may arrange a private agreement with the PWC and the agreement goes well for 15 years. Then this dreaded lot get involved and make up arrears and the NRP gets stitched up with thousands of pounds of arrears. This lot then say that the arrears are owed to the ‘secretary of state’!

    They have you ‘any which way they can’, on the pretence of raising children out of poverty!

    1) What of taxes all ready paid by the NRP. That money all ready pays for benefits, education and the health service. Is this taken into account? Why, are you being asked to pay twice?

    2) Why, as a payee of child support are you not informed of the PWC’s benefit claims? You are paying for it! What is the big secret?

    3) £3.77 billion pounds remains uncollected/owed by NRP’s. If this system is as good as it is made out to be why are 30% of NRP’s not paying any money whilst 70% are?

    Finally, I personally have paid into the system by way of taxes for 37 years, through hard work. Lets raise this ‘taboo’ subject! There are some who have never worked and never paid into the system. There are some who may have paid some taxes and then there are the ‘professional benefit claimants’ who ‘play’ the system and know how to play the rules. The more responsible and hard working that you are, the more of a law abiding citizen that you are…………..the worse you get treated by UK authority, who take you for granted as a ‘cash machine’, commodity, to be stripped of your hard earned cash. What do I claim? ‘naff all’ , and if I do come to claim at any stage, ‘you can bet your bottom dollar’ that I will be interrogated for hours or questioned repeatedly or should I do as the pro’s do and get straight down to the solicitors office with ” I’m entitled to this, I’m entitled to that”!…………. Benefit claimants rule okay! I have no problem with genuine claimants!

    This system is ‘not fit for purpose’ and is riddled with unfairness and inadequencies for all! It is a complete shambles!

    In fact I all ready had arranged my childrens’ inheritance, but all that has now changed. My non resident children will now be worse off as adults, because I have withdrawn my plans for their inheritance, because of this disgraceful shambles! I have told them to question the CSA as to why they have lost their inheritance? It is for me to make financial arrangements for my children NOT a Politician, NOT an Executive earning £300,000 per annum plus bonuses and NOT a grade 2 office clerk!

  8. Lorraine Moore on December 7th, 2010 5:31 pm

    Indeed Naomi..!

  9. Lee Hughes on December 7th, 2010 5:38 pm

    Well, it's never really been about the child, all about the money!

  10. Maxine Knowles on December 7th, 2010 9:04 pm

    Blimey, £500 is a lot to pay for one child. The CSA dont seem to calculate the amounts fairly…if there is one child being supported it's amazing how many different amounts fathers on here say they are paying. The amount that fathers should pay and mothers should receive really should be more in line with how much it costs to keep/look after a child than on the absent parents income, as the current system is SO inconsistent.

  11. Peter Anderson on December 7th, 2010 9:36 pm

    But how much of the 60k has actually been given to her? Any of it? That's why the ol Court system with everything that was wrong with it was still better. At lease a Judge could demand to see receipts showing that the money had been spent on the children! This is what the CSA should be required to provide!!! No receipts – no money, Deny contact – no money! In the end, the only thing that can work is where BOTH PARENTS LOOK AFTER and PROVIDE for their children! Default Shared Residence, no problems with contact, no necessity for a CSA!

  12. Steve Holmes on September 14th, 2011 9:46 pm

    I have paid over £82,000 to the CSA over the past 14 years to one child. I have fought since 1993 to be put onto the new system of where i would certainly pay less. Unfortunatley the csa say that they can’t (or won’t ) do this due to there systems not being able to cope.
    I complained to everyone even to my local MP and the parliamentary ombudsman. No one was interested !
    My son has reached his 18th birthday now and I have been told that I will have to keep paying until he reaches the age of 20. I am convinced that he is not in fulltime education, but when I mention this to the CSA they say that it is not there resposibility to investigate this. Although they collect the money
    They gave me the number for the child benifit agency. I contacted them and they said that it is not their department that deals with this as the CSA take the money from me.
    One big roundabout and you never no when your going to get off !!
    I have no problem about supporting my son. But what teanager in their right mind is going to settle for £54 a week from income support when he can get nearly £500 a month through the CSA ?????
    This is what annoys me esspecially that I have twins who are five years old and are just starting out in their education. This money would be better spent on them and 17,18,19 year old teanagers should be out trying to find work and supporting themselves

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