CSA claim money paid was voluntary payments
November 20, 2010
I HAVE COMPLAINED 3 TIMES to the CSA about the arrears my husband owes me BECAUSE IN 2007N WHEN WE SEPERATED I paid all household bills inc Life Ins Credit card and loans. I have provioded numerous invoices,account breakdowns and my bankruptcy paperwork to show the amount of debt my husband left us in. I complained to the agency when he was saying the money he was giving me had been agreed. I recently provided emails from him stating that he would pay the Mortgage,which I have been told is considered as voluntary payments. I was paying £900 a month fro debt and bills. I was also informed at the time that as long as the money was going towards bills then it had to count.Twice I have been awarded arrears and twice taken away. Andrew Northal was in complaint in 2007/2008 and had awarded arrears due to my ex husband lying about being made redundant and being sacked. In June Another Andrew (surname unknown)send me a letter on 14-06-10 saying I had been awarded £4262 so voluntary payments that were not used due to my ex husbands debt.
I sent some emails he sent me in 2007 saying he would pay the debt he owes me. The agency has had these figures 3 times and my bankruptcy notes showing debt. Emma in September worked on my case after my husband has complained and said only £35 arrears. She said there was no point looking into files from previous years as the paymentsa received were clarified by myself at the time. His previous employer even missed a months payment this year. She stated that the legal team said the payments received must be counted as CSA payments. My new case worker has said that this is the first time I complained and that there is no evidense to show I have in the past. My ex husband promised to pay half the bills when we seperated and what the CSA said he had to pay towards the children. At that time he did not want the marriage to end or for us to loose the house. As sson as the marriage was not reconsilable he told the CSA a different story..
Can you help please try to recover the arrears that were originally awarded to my children in June of this year after 3 years of trying. Because his email said the money was for the mortgage the CSA have said that are Voluntary Payments.
Regards
Steph
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Do I understand it correctly?
You wanted the marriage to end.
Your husband had to leave his home.
You still wanted him to pay half the costs of running your home and CM via the CSA on top.
Would you be paying these arrears to your creditors by any chance?
Sorry Steph, but the Csa are not interested in you. They are only interested in cases where they get to keep the money collected for themselves. You can keep trying with them but its unlikely you'll get anywhere with them. It's a problem case so they'll just put it on one side. Do a statement, as per court, as to what's happened and take it and the copies of the correspondence to your MP. Maybe he can make something happen. Otherwise what was the court order made for the divorce. Arrangements for contact and did it give you the option to return to court for maintenance. Have a word with the solicitor who handled the divorce, you may be better going back to court.
Write to your MP with this there is no logic to the CSA Just monetary targets happily fulfilled by ex IRA
I would consider any payments you recieved as a PWC are considered in the best interests of the child so long as those payments havent been spent on yourself…. PWC's complain because they cannot cover the bills…… should be that the child is clothed but you'v used the money for bills??????
About time I heard a man winning for once
Lucky man, wish it’d happen to more of them…
At the end of the day it is not about dad or mum winning its about children. I find these comments out of order as none of you know the history. .
Not all women are Gold diggers they just want the best for their kids future. It happenes the other way too. My partner had the same from his ex wife…Its all about spite and revenge and both women and men suffer because of the CSA. If there is joint debt or 1 party has debt then they should make arrangements to pay that debt.
Broken Father I wanted to leave the home for years but because of all the debt he left as it was his way of doing a runner…I wanted him to keep the house so the kids had a home. Joint custody of the kids is the best way as the kids have a mum and dad and a home. If this happens then the CSA do not need to get involved… Thats what would of been best for them,if I had left then I would of made sure I would of paid my way. It was not the running costs he owed but 100s of pounds that he owed people and had nothing to do with the home. He also owed friends money..
I feel that you are critising me because of how your ex wifes treated you..its not always fathers that are broken..But its always the kids that suffer. At the end of the day The CSA need to get their act together and the law to protect all of us from Spiteful Ex Partners.
Trying to be a help here as this is what this site should be about..If any of you have had bad experiences via the CSA contact your local MP. A;lways send correspondence to the CSA recorded delivery and there is a company called CSA Solutions that can give you advice. Its only a 15 minute call but they can help. Unfortunately if they represent you it costs from £12,000,and unless you have not been taken to the cleaners by you ex and you can afford it take the 15 minutes..
???so you think paying bills and keeping a house hold isnt for the child?? what would you want, a child living on the streets but its ok if they have lots of clothes to keep em warm.isnt providing a safe roof over childrens heads the priority!!!
..also if you pay anything to a partner then put it in writing and send recorded delivery to THE CSA..If you can get notification or a recipt from them do that also. I have read on here stories and the conclusion is the same. It works both ways..Partners say they have paid voluntary payments and some say the money was for other things. I think the CSA need to get their act together..UNLESS both parties have agreed in writing then mistakes will be made. Also where Child Maintenance for Child Care is concerned this is paid to Parent with Care via CTC and I dont think if a person receives this for a child should be paid for it again by a non resident parent. If a non resident parent is in debt this also must be looked into as at times the debt is left behind when they leave so the resident parent is left to pay it. If any of you have had this then again put in writing you should not pay for ex partners debt.
Partners say they have paid voluntary payments and some say the money was for other things. I think the CSA need to get their act together..UNLESS both parties have agreed in writing then mistakes will be made. Also where Child Maintenance for Child Care is concerned this is paid to Parent with Care via CTC and I dont think if a person receives this for a child should be paid for it again by a non resident parent. If a non resident parent is in debt this also must be looked into as at times the debt is left behind when they leave so the resident parent is left to pay it. If any of you have had this then again put in writing you should not pay for ex partners debt.
Just as I thought the CSA chop & change the interpretation of the term ‘voluntary payments’ when it suits !Come on be fair or you will lose all credibility! You couldn’t make it up …
The big point here that the CSA change the goal posts to suit themselves, the thing is if he was paying your house he should no way have had to maintainance, its either one or the other, some woman are well looked after where the CSA are concerned, its nice to see a dad winning for a change, to be fair its about time the CSA changed the rules completely and sort things fairly for all who use the service, its never going to happen, when CS3 comes into force next year both parents have to pay to use the service which isn’t fair either, this is suppost to be about the kids not giving more money to the treasury