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CSA Avoiding Payment
Your website discusts me. My ex has his own business and pays himself over £4000/month ( I have seen evidence) yet he has managed to foil the CSA and his calcultion is £26.81/month. I am appauled you encourage such behaviour from NRPs who are immorally wrong. My ex has used any means possible to avoid payments. When he finally got this result he told my if “I call” off the CSA he will make payments privately.
I agreed, but he then moved the goalposts wanting to pay less than originally offereded. The CSA and sites such as this just give him power to play games. I left him as he was abusive towards me.
Organisations like you have just made that worse. I am sick with worry.
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Hi Catherine,
Sadly, if a NRP is of the frame of mind that they are going to be, for want of a better word difficult re payments, then no advice etc they receive from elsewhere will make any difference. I do agree, there are place such individuals can go that are biased and be encouraged – However, I don’t feel CSAHell meets that criteria.
Others are genuinely struggling as a result of agency maladministration and
errors and need assistance.
On the other hand, there are PWC who with hold contact for no good reason…
These situations are less than beneficial to the main party who will be affected – the child/ren.
1) Regarding the calculation, did you appeal the agencies decision?
2) Did you not make a mutually agreeable amount to be paid privately, before you cancelled the case with the CSA?
3) Have you remained with the private agreement OR have you returned to the agency?
-Your welcome to join us in the forum at http://www.afairercsaforall.co.uk
Im sorry to hear of your story.
I dont think you can accuse this website of the failings of the CSA and your ex. I have similar problem to you and I know its the fault of the CSA for not being set up to deal with ‘people’ like our ex’s and when they have evidence not using it correctly and basically not being fit for purpose and their imcompetencies, our ex’s just for being evil people who dont want to support their children and knowing they can use the CSA for this purpose. Unfortunately we can change our ex’s for being evil but we can try and get people to listen to us (remember its election year) to get the CSA to act in the best interests of the children and not in the best interests of the ‘people’ (i.e. ex’s) who do not want to support them, this doesnt discriminate against whether male or female whether NRP or PWC, Im a PWC and a mother but I know NRP and/or fathers have problems with their ex’s and the CSA also. We need to be focused on what the problem is and give blame to the culprits.
How dare you judge NRPs as being dead beats that don’t pay……..I have a lovely partner who has 2 children from a previous marriage, we have his children here every weekend, we buy things for them, he gives his son £20-£30 to do with what he wants, he pays for trips and things they need to go on these trips, as well as give her money voluntry, he does every thing in his power to make sure his kids still have a good life. It was his ex that ended the marriage, she threw him out, she didn’t want him there. I have been with my partner for three years we have a baby on the way, and because of this news the ex-wife has become a jealous, vindictive, evil woman and has reported him to the CSA, my partner loses £115 a week out his wages, he only earns £300 out of whats left we have to pay rent, council tax, and other bills aswell as try to provide for the new baby that is arriving in 5 weeks, After all this its actually his children that are suffering, simply because we can’t afford to do what we use to with them, hell we are lucky if we can afford to feed them. His ex earns over £400 a week that is without the CSA payments she gets, she has no rent to pay, no council tax to pay, that £400 is hers to go out and get pissed every week end. So yes sites like this are needed to protect the genuine doting dads from the vindictive evil witches that their exes can be.
my partners ex as got away without hardly paying towards his 3 children 4 nearly 10 years, but as a thriving business were he employs upto 5 staff.he now owns 2 homes 1 he can afford to just leave empty.his new home cost over 140.ooo.. yet he as told csa he only earns£122.00 a week were did he get 140.000 from.ive reported all this 2 csa and inland revenue and got nowhere. its not rocket science 2 know he must be on over 700 a week is staff are on 10 an hour and they work all the time.does any 1 av any suggestions.
On the other side, I have been denied any contact with my 3 children for over 5 years , so I have not oaid anything, only christmas and birthday presents. I have just been contacted by CSA who want £60/week from me, even tho I only bring home about £600 a month, due to disability. I would’nt hesitate if I was seeing my children, but I do object when my ex and the courts refuse. just to clarify I was not violent or anything, By the time I got to court(after 3 years) the court reckoned the children would be disrupted!
what happens if you been paying money than they put in for csa
4 weeks down the line my daughter chased theCSA to see how things were progressing only to be told her forms have been lost !!!! What hope do we stand.
Birth certificate had been returned with CSA compliment slip! Have now been told it can take up to 12 weeks to sort out. Useless – pity the person that returned the birth certificate was not brave enough to sign their name on that compliment slip. Perhaps this is something that CSA would like to address to end this messy situation of lost forms!!
I completely agree a sit titled ‘CSA Hell’ in itself is going to naturally appeal to ‘deadbeat dads’ who portray a picture of the so called ‘doting father’ (normally coupled with the ‘doting’ new partner to help foster resentments in the father about the mother of his children and her “vindictiveness”) yet when you get passed all the falsites and pretences they are trying to avoid paying for their children. I just do not get how disgusting some fathers and their new partners can be when stating the same old about the mothers: claiming that their just using their children to beat the dads with, what crap! Have you ever stopped to wonder if you are the vindictive ones, using non-payment of your biological children to beat the mother with? of course not hey? For the most men (and partners) using these types of sites, even to look up how they can stop paying or minimise payments etc is in itself despicable and morally wrong! symptomatic of a profile that is increasingly being recognised with such dads (i.e. ‘batman groups and payment whingers) i.e. manipulative, controlling and abusive (look up the different forms). These men go on to meet women who for whatever reason no matter what they want people to believe are just fostering these disgusting traits and actions in favour of themselves, and no doubt their own children and the future children they go on to have with these pathetic ‘doting’ (what a joke) manipulative damaged men! Wake up and smell the coffee, anybody that tries to justify non-payment for their own flesh and blood is wholly WRONG! The courts and other are getting wise to these cases and increasingly the government are coming down harder on such disgusting men! And for the women who seem to think it is ok for the man not to pay the Reisdent parent money for their children, have you ever stopped to think that it’s you also with the vindictive agenda’s, coupled with jealousy of the fact these pathetic men have children with another woman, and you too are joining forced to use somebody else’s children to beat the mother’s with?? Of course not, after all you are just so doting,m sweet angelic doted step mums hey??? This site will attract one kind of person, the ‘deadbeat’ kind!
i have found them fantasic i had to wait for the payments for 5 months as my ex is in the army n has not paid in 10 years!!!!!!! but was reassued that i WOULD get paid!! he now pays the arrears n the weekly payment but refuses to see his kids hahaha he did try n stop them even change it to lower weekly payments as he just got married n bought new car thank god CSA put him straight on this one! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK CSA i have faith in you n thank you for all the help you have given me why should my kids suffer his pathetic ways!!
all u mums are happy takeing the money from the dads but how would you feel if payments stopped unless you gave us fathers rights to see our children,,im working nearly 70 hrs a week ,,i pay the csa 140 a week!! and im left on 220,,and cant see my children,,its a joke!!
Hello all,
my ex wife who did not have a UK Passport married me for one and when married told me she was on the pill. Then she had our child. Made lies up about me to the police to get a passport under domestic violence. She is now hiding some where in the UK so I can not see my son but gone to the CSA for money. There are some very clever witches who use the CSA just to milk honest fathers like myself. Its disgraceful. There was a court order I pay £200 monthly but now she has gone to the CSA. Yes, the CSA is hell.
i know how you feel.. my partner has not paid a penny for nearly 15 months i was only getting £20 monthly before that.. yet he has a large amount in bank,, baught a brand new caravan,2 new cars, why he needs two baffles me… and claims he has nothing,,yet its all in his name… its a disgrace to the children who dont even see him any more, something should be done for these children. yet i know several people who gets a wage from their exs,and they aint as well off as some of these men..they should all be ashamed there are some really good men out there n praise them for taking care of their own,but too many daddies know how to fool the csa,, even better than us mams,who are left to do it alone…
I haven’t seen my beautiful little girl for 15 months (she is 7).Ex has the judge lapping out of her hand and meanwhile daughter desperately misses her loving father. Her solicitor mentioned a few months ago I hadn’t payed any maintenance. (she is a nurse) Yet she hid my daughters new address and deliberately stopped me from having contact . Mother has forced me to pay thousands of pounds in legal fees all of which would have been my daughters money. Whats the point of that? I told her as we were splittng up after 19 plus years that I would give my daughter everything she needed and more, yet her personal bitterness to deny me access to break our bond (and kill me) has meant up to now It has cost my daughter over 100,000 pounds through her stupidity and bitterness and the courts are telling me they have the childrens interests at heart. so by the time the csa get involved there will be nothing left and the judge is looking at me as I am the problem. ( Oh and by the way the reason we split up was because I stepped in to protect my daughter from her abusive mother)
Some dads are genuine, some are not. Some mums are genuine, some are not. Sometimes the CSA works, sometimes not. My 3 yo autistic son does not even get an xmas or bday card from his dad. He would fail to show up to see him and fail to even give me a fiver so i went to mediation 3 times and he never showed. He has 6 kids by 6 different women – none of which he sees apparently – which i had NO idea about until after and it has made me feel sick that my little boy has siblings and a dad he will never know about. Tried everything to get a relationship going. Want the best for my son! But he is not remotely interested and its heartbreaking. But i dont think all dads are the same! and some mums DO act selfish! Just because my experience is horrendous doesn’t mean they all are. xxx
me and my ex had a child while we were 15 and still at school i never stopped him seeing our daughter when we split up and he contacted the csa to make payments i was awarded £80 per month then when my daughter was due to leave school he sent her home with a message saying iv had all im getting out of him im not getting another penny but he still had to pay as our daughter was staying on at school so i contacted the csa and they told me he had never had a review since 1999 so they did one baring in mind for the past 4 years hes had his own buisness which is doing quite well he employs 3 staff he has a sports car and a work van and hes took over his mothers morgage payments and has homing pigeons which are quite expensive and the csa decided i was entitled to £80per week and he appealed so they dropped it to £64per week but i can only have it owed from september 2011 now hes appealed again and my payments have been dropped to £15per week that is less than i was getting before the review how can this happen his pigeons are now getting more spent on them than his own daughter he has never had anymore children and he is not in a relationship and still lives with his mam can anyone give me some help and advice please