Can’t afford the CSA payments
I had an agreement with my ex wife i would pay a nominal sum to her as she wanted nothing from me. if she wanted some help with school uniform school trips or just some clothes then we would go shopping.
I had to go to court to get an access order just for my daughter knows when she will see her daddy. the amount was asked by the judge then. that cost me a small fortune. she cant even keep to that so we are going back to court.
Now i have just been contacted by the CSA contacted me and want more money that i have. as i am in the building trade and there is not the work about my money is no where what they think it is and with all the rising bills it leave me with not enough to eat or feed my daughter. but no one cares about dads who really are struggling. in the end they think they are helping the child. in one hand they are but in the hand they are taking away. my ex wife does nothing with her children except sit on her arse and on facebook. get her rent paid council tax paid and many other benifits. she is sitting prity while i have to say to my daughter sorry we cant go swimming because mummy has taken daddys money so we cant do the things you like,
What make it worse id that she has 3 other children by her first husband and he has never paid a penny. She wont ever ask him. I feel dicrimated against
So when i lose my house who suffers because of these payments ???????
I dont mind paying but at least make it fair. The cost of living isnt cheap.
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If you ex is on benefits that the Government keeps most of what you pay the CSA I’m afraid.
They dont care how you afford to care for your child.
brokenfather, Since April 2010, there has been a total benefit disregard, meaning the Government now keeps NONE of the money paid in maintenance. (except if arrears were accumulated prior to such and are owed to the SoS)
Darren Garner, have you updated the agency regarding your income?
How old is your daughter?
– It may well be the truth and I can understand your frustration, but what do you feel you gain by feeling the need to say ” mummy has taken daddys money so we cant do the things you like”?
There are also plenty of examples on the inter net where P’sWC are slammed for telling their children that “Dad doesn’t pay maintenance for you”
I don’t feel children should be dragged into adult wars.
chall ~ afairercsaforall
Really?
I thought that the benefit receipient now had to instead declare the CM being received and that then reduced the benefits. So the government still keeps most just via a different method.
Welcome aboard comrade !!
Well as far as i understand she get all the money i give her as she now works part time. my daughter has told me how much i earn and how much i should pay. so i know that this has come up. so when she askes why cant we do the things we used to do what should i do…….lie?
i agree that children should not be brought in to adult wars but they always will be. like she is with holding telephone conversation which have been agreed. as i only get to speak to her once a week. my daughter has asked her mum if she can call and said her mum said no. i thought it was all about what the child wants not the perents. if my daughter wants to call her mum when she is staying with me then i would never dream of stopping her from calling. no matter how much i dislike her mother.
chall my daughter is only 5yrs.
Join the club! I went to citizens advice, I'm still waiting to hear back, that was a month ago!!
you will be in good company here friend they dont give a flying fuck about you or me or your children just as long as they get the money
Welcome to the land of make believe child abuse agency !
citizens advise ,, waste of bloody time Lee it's a unwritten rule they will not give rock solid advise on how to deal with the robin bastard agency ,, you may as well read the leaflets the CSA print themselves
It's just as informative… if not more…lol… use their own rules back at them….CSA are as corrupt as the selfish, greedy arrogant PWC's … PWC colludes with CSA… both are terrorists against NRP and the child The CSA allow the PWC control over the NRP's life but there are some things that can control the CSA's intervention… I no longer provide CSA payments and have shared care!!!!Welcome to the club our friend…. I hope this forum is as entertaining and informative for your requirements…. Have a look at some previous and recent posts… some have a very entertaining value…U'll see when you read em…lol
Here, here!…. 🙂
Go to your MP. We had a similar problem but with them leaving us only 115 a week to live on. The MP dealt with it within a week.
They are so blinkered to how they effect peoples lives. They dont give a shit and this has to stop, one way or another!
15% is that rule another lie and bullshit ???
looks like they have gone for the max they can not only see your mp but complain to chefif exec they have 14 days
Three years on and two MP's and they still not sorted my query. I only want to send an accountant in to audit my account due to errors in figures on both the Ombudsman and ICE report. They need to BURN!
CSA is clearly NOT acting in the child's best of interest. You told them your daughter started living with you, therefore they should REDUCE the amount of arrears with regards to that extra mouth that needs to fed. But guess what, they don't care. CSA is clearly a child abusing agency. I could bet you they are making good interest on all of us' money by sitting on the amounts for ages, holding back the money.
to be* fed
i have just been informed that i have to pay £176.00 pounds a month, i have no idea how this is going to happen when after bills i have £14 left, looks like i will have to move house and quit my job just so me and my little girl can eat, it sucks
My partner earns 9k a year he works hard and comes home late I work from home I don’t make a lot of money I was made redundant last year. We have a 3 year old, my partner has two children. His x is now married together their income is 76k she takes 15 % from us. When my partners children’s stay they have to sleep on sofas it’s been like this for years. No car no holiday dragging shopping by hand from Liddle. We have borrowed money from everywhere in order to try and cope which has just got us deep in debt. Her. 76k to our 12k crazy! ? what about our lives? what about my child? I have been close to feeling like we should split up because it’s so hard. He gave her the house and everything in it. The CSA should look at both incomes.
Why do the CSA take 15% off our family tax too? we only get that because we are poor as it is.
It’s crazy Kitty. The CSA doesn’t care about the lives it ruins, only that it follows its orders to the letter. Taking money off people like you to give to those who don’t need it is insane. It’s wrong, yet it happens all the time. There’s just no common sense anymore.
I’ve payed nearly 12,000 pounds in court costs and solicitors fees in three separate court cases in order to get access to my son. All three court orders have been breached with no action been taken against my ex. My son has been abused on a regular basis by his mother and her countless partners, social services have been notified but will do absolutely nothing to help my boy. I have payed well over 10,000 pounds in to the CSA but can no longer afford the payments, even though my last court order states my son lives with me 30% of the time. Just recieved yet another bailiffs letter demanding 3000 pounds. I can’t afford my sons basic needs, let alone the rest of my familys! I really think i need to sell up and go on the dole. My time to be a social burden.
Just had a thought. Who pays when gay couples divorce. If it’s 2 lesbians do they get a mansion each? If its 2 gay men, do they both end up on a park bench with the child being taken into care?
My partner pays his ex (who works part time hours, gets working tax credits, child tax credits, child benefit, housing benefits and gets child maintenance) £170 a month, which will be reduced at the end of this month by £30 when we have our baby!! So our baby is in theory is entitled to £30 (3 tins of milk a month) where as his other child (6yrs) is entitled to £140 – (equivalent to 14 tins of milk)!! Plus we do not qualify for any benefits either!!
Plus we have to go and get him and pay the travel expenses (£20 a week- 6 buses)
Its making us think whether we should even bother going to work!!
i have had CSA on the phone for the past month asking me to pay for my daughter who lives with my ex who is on all the benifit she can get! i dnt mind paying for my daughter at all, but when is £165 a month when i have a house to keep up and running, its out of order and they dnt see the bad side of it, my ex has stopped me from seeing my daughter because she has a new bf, so i dnt understand why i am made out to be the bad 1 in all of this! CSA should change the way they do things and let so called mothers see there own kids if not, us dads shouldnt have to pay a thing!
I have just recieved a review from child support, my ex stopped wanting money from me and payments had ceased due to my health and benefits, but because of an internal review they have come back with avengance.
I am disabled but was in a lot worse state than I am now, still not well and having relapses but trying hard to get on with life. I have spent the last 3 years rebuilding my life and have started working again. what for?
I have had not access to my children now for 10 years!! My ex-wife ran off with another man. The following court proceedings were a waste of time with all of the decisions being ignored by my ex. Last resort would be a penal order resulting in the children going in to care whilst I the father applied for a residancy order !!! I was told by the magistrate that that would take at least 28 days and the kids would have to go to care while the ex spent 30 days in prison! – the whole thing was a waste of money. (money for solicitors who are already making plenty)
So I am a non resident father who has been denied every access to my children. I have paid child support for years. I have almost died with health problems. I have been severly disabled for at least two years. I am rebuilding some kind of life an whollop! Hammered again!
I have been told that because I get £960 per month that I have to pay 15%, ok I understand that and don’t deny my children. However, I also have to pay back money from when they made this decision at £384 per month – what ? !@!$!
oh and I only have a couple of months to pay that. – I do also have to live and pay a mortgage ?? dunno how..
My eldest child is now 17, I dont have to pay for him. My girl is now just shy of 16. Her wayward mother has encoraged her sexually and now she’s having a baby at 15 and left school! – child support don’t care about any of this. Proof is that I told them 1 month ago. The other day I told them again and they had no record of the first request for them to check in to it. You don’t pay for kids that have left school. The ex wife is on the fiddle – again!
I totally get they “pay for your children” attitude – but i dont get the lets make it so absent fathers have no rights, cant see their children, and well make it so you can live for the next 10 years and [punish you for your ex-wife’s behaviour – the csa attitude sucks!
Is it me or is it just all wrong – they treat you like a liar. Im sure some people are, but there are many of us who want to do the right thing also
I have found the only way to cusion the short fall in wages is to take a 2nd part time job cash in hand to replace what I am losing .. Have had to do this before I sank into debt because the CSA really do not care that you cant survive on what they deduct from your wages …. If you do find yourself giving up your job then having to look for another one …just be be honest at interviews and tell them you have a detachment of earnings order over your head and you will find they wont touch you with a barge pole ..they hate dealing with the CSA too ..and would rather not have the hassle in their wages dept having to mess about with attachment orders … you cant beat the csa but you can earn more on the side than they know about by doing other work such as buying and selling on ebay .. also get yourself a pre paid debit card and load extra money on it that way you dont keep money in one basket … you cant beat the csa totally but you can certainly have the last laugh … because there is so much you can do to warn extra from home … without them ever knowing … its working for me … all we ever want is to pay for kids and still live ..csa dont care so we have to be crafty ..its calaled self preservation … just hope one day the government will sit up and realise that the present system is crap and makes no sense destroying 2nd lives cant see what message that gives to children seeing parents struggling and homeless … SERIOUSLY HOPE THE COURTS OF HUMAN RIGHTS get involved now and sorts the CSA out … under this present system families are being torn apart by resentment and poverty on both sides of the family splits .. its just not healthy and a tremendous burden on the NHS too because of the ammount of depression cases hitting the surgeries…. by the way everyone … if you pay income tax into the system ,,and lets face we all do ..we are in fact paying anyway towards child benefits .. so dont let people tell you you are getting away with it ..because your not ,.. income tax pays for lots of children .. and benefit claiments … which you pay into by working …
My partner has three children one he has never met and knew nothing of him for 11 years he now owes £9,000 arrears and is still not allowed to meet the child!!! He also has two boys to his ex wife who he left 18 months ago leaving the house brand new car and a business he set up he was paying her £100 per week but she got greedy and went to CSa even we have proof of payment he’s being made to pay for the months he paid cash again! They’re now sayin he must pay £934 a WEEK!!!!! He earns £950 a week I have my own three children who my partner has taken on and provides for and yet my ex came out if work so he doesn’t have to pay CSa they now take £10 a fortnight for my three children the system is so messed up I understand when dads are just refusing to pay anything but my fella is but we need to be able to live too!!!!