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@CSAHell thats because they’re useless fucktards who don’t know what they’re doing
Hi, I have a link saying all CSA cases will be dropped in 2014. Does this mean my arrears will also be dropped??
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-18924166
If you report a change of circumstances due to an increase in your income the change may take a while to be processed but the new MC will be effective back to when the change was reported, or when the change occurred, as such arrears may have been incurred meanwhile.
In respect of all csa cases being dropped by 2014, this is not accurate. The new 2012 scheme has started and all cases currently on 2003 scheme which the PWC wishes to remain open will be moved over to the new 2012 scheme by 2014. Cases moved over will take existing arrears with them, cases which the PWCs want closed will have arrears collected unless the PWC does not want them.
I’ve been getting this. It is insane. They clearly can’t work out their own calculations, or are blatantly ripping people off.
I initially was on too little income to pay anything. Then when I earned enough, by the time they completed my initial assessment, I owed them a reasonable amount of arrears. I was asked to pay £40 per month, which would see me pay off most of the amount over the expected 15 years. When the law at the time said that I was paying the maximum I should pay, paying the maximum I should pay plus £40 per month, seemed unfair but I couldn’t get them to agree to a lower amount or take it from me at the end of the payment period.
I continued paying by DEO, at my request, and all the payments were taken from my earnings at a level set by them.
I didn’t pay for a few months 5 years ago, as I changed to a lower paid job for health reasons and couldn’t afford the higher amount. I thought this was all above board as I understood I had to provide 3 pay slips to get them to re-assess me.
When they re-assessed me, they said that not only did I have to pay arrears but all my arrears had to be paid back over 2 years. I really could not afford this but paid and just got deeper and deeper in debt.
After paying at the level set by them for 2 years, they still sent me another demand for £85, saying that they previously hadn’t done a complete calculation. This was 3 years ago, and they continued to take money from my earnings at a level set by them.
In June 2012, my son left education and they just then moved me onto 2003 legislation. They continued to charge me, but now in Jan 2013, not only are they continuing to charge me after I have any requirement to pay, but also, they are charging me an additional £60 arrears. I rang and they say they hadn’t factored in me continuing to pay after June, despite them being the ones who are managing the DEO. I (apparently) owe them £61 and they are going to re-calculate, by which time, they might owe me overpayments, but the woman on the line was adamant that I had arrears…despite a £2000 overpayment since June, and them having leveled my arrears 3 years ago (supposedly).
During all of this, I have lost contact with my son as I couldn’t afford to maintain the costs of contact and I’m still unable to help him in his first steps in his career, as they are still charging me and (along with unscrupulous family law solicitors) have run me into significant debt.
They really don’t know what they are doing and have no interest in the child’s wellbeing whatsoever.
im thinking of going selfemployed,how well csa work out my paymments ?
My husband pays CSA and has done for 12 years. Approx £36k has been paid. We are both hard workers and have a son. His ex is a cleaner claiming every benefit going.
Due to the endless errors and mis calculations we have paid thousands in arrears. We are in debt due to this and I have tried two suicide attempts as I have had enough. I am trying to get better and my husband is travelling 1000 miles per week in order to work.
The CSA are all for the parent with care and never look into there circumstances. However always look into our affairs and treat us like dirt. They are a disgrace. We have always ensured his child is cared for but we are not there to fund her lifestyle.
I can’t see an end!
Michelle are they endless errors or mis calculations or as Karl says are they blatantly ripping people off ?
Despite never missing a payment, I got stitched up with over £11.000 of arrears, with the CSA saying it was owed to the Secretary of State ? Can someone explain what thats all about ?
Hello Brett
The secretary of state means that they are basically stating that your partner is claiming benefits, so there for the secretary of state claims the money you pay to recover what is or has been paid to your partner.
They tried that with me until I told them that no my ex partner wasn’t on benefits and had always worked and I had proof of this.
So they just simply change to saying that your money isn’t being paid to the secretary of state but direct to your partner and you know yourself you cant prove it either way.
So the bottom line is it doesn’t matter what you say they just twist it
As for are we being ripped off I would say that its nothing more than the c.s.a just fixing everyone’s file so basically rigging the out come of everyone’s case.
I’ve dealt with them now for twenty odd years and when I compare my case with everyone else’s, strange when a pattern starts to emerge.
Assessments paperwork is requested by c.s.a, its posted but disappears ,this allows arrears to rocket.it has to disappear for you to be classed as not co operating.
you complain to case examiners, he sees that it was requested & you failed to produce it, this being the paperwork that disappeared.
You pay what your supposed to pay yet accumulate arrears, when you complain your told you were notified yet nobody ever has any paperwork or knowledge of being notified, & as usual the case examiner always happens to have the only copy going, when he makes his report,
Then you receive a summons out of the blue for thousands in arrears which has been ticking away in the back ground but remember you were notified.
and we are all told no need to go to court as they have the liability order on you. Courts are supposed to be innocent till proven guilty, but the c.s.a know that on the day you are at court it is to collect a liability order (ONLY) for arrears that are high enough for an automatic liability order to be granted, yet we go under the impression that we are there to fight our case, this is why your told not to show up.
Why do the c.s.a not take you to court earlier to collect arrears, simple because anything less than the magic figure and it wouldn’t be granted.
These are but a few ways that the c.s.a fix the out come of all our cases leaving us with not a leg to stand on as there is |(ALWAYS) the huge time lapses between contact leaving you under the impression that your case is being dealt with or your paying what you were told to pay so think that you cant accumulate any arrears as your co operating fully with them
Before I go I don’t mean to spoil anyone’s day but my daughters are now 30 & 27 years old & I’ve never missed any payments over the years and have suffered the same problems as all you and the c.s.a are still taking £60 out of my bank every month.
Yes I’ve phoned them twice last year each phone call about an hour long and they cant even find my files so basically I don’t exist, so figure that one out.
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Gary, thanks for info. Ive been in the CSA system since it was first set up and I can relate to everything you mentioned.
No doubt I’l get a phone call sometime in the future from the CSA, saying I owe thousands to the Secretary of State and asked to pay the debt with my credit card over the phone. I’l then be threatened with baliffs and a Liability Order.
Seen and heard it all before from that vile organisation.
Hello Brett
Yes this is what I mean about our files are being fixed by the c.s.a
When it comes to c.s.a mistakes we all have the same symptoms which basically confirms that this is what they are doing,
The Royal Mail mail deliver world wide yet as soon as its addressed c.s.a it appears that its, the only place on the planet the postman can’t reach.
with arrears we are all told we were notified yet you just have to read everyone else’s case and compare them to your own to find that not one of us has either knowledge or paperwork of being notified about payments being changed, so strange how the case examiner always has the only copy.
Arrears, where else can you run an arrears bill of thousands without knowing anything about it, the answer to that has to be absolutely nowhere except the c.s.a.
Which again points the finger at the c.s.a rigging the out come of all our cases.
Phoning the c.s.a, we’ve all had problems in this department where we say one thing over the phone then not long later we receive a legal letter off the c.s.a agreeing to our offer of having increased our payment of which we know that no such offer was made.
Independent case examiners: we all at some point have received the replies to our complaints as the following.
Even though the c.s.a have made mistakes you failed to produce paper work when requested,…….the paperwork that disappeared that is
Even though the c.s.a have made mistakes you failed to act when your payments were increased…….This being the we were notified when we know we weren’t.
Our case’s are being fixed doesn’t get any clearer than this.
We all know that this can’t be the work of any lone rogue staff on the desk but has to be from instructions from the highest level for to get away with this fraudulent behaviour, especially seen as liability orders and other legally bounding orders are placed on us as a result of this file fixing.
I’m just about done with the c.s.a now but then again considering the ages of my daughters this should have been wrapped up years ago, but it honestly makes my blood boil coming on here and reading what they are doing to others by there criminal behaviour and knowing they are getting away with it and peoples lives are being ruined as a result of it.
my children are 30,28 and 25, i payed from day one untill the youngest left school recently i received aletter saying owe 60000 in arrears? how can this be possible
my children are 30,28 and 25, i payed from day one untill the youngest left school recently i received a letter saying owe 60000 in arrears? how can this be possible?