How do I escape paying child support?

June 11, 2008

This is one of the things we keep getting asked here at CSAhell.com. How do I escape paying child support?

It’s not something we want to condone, we’re not here to offer advice and suggestions on how non resident parents can get out of paying for their children. We are here to offer advice and support on how you can pay what you owe, rather than what the CSA want you to pay.

Remember that if you have children you have an obligation to pay for them, to pay fairly for them. The CSA want you to pay as much as possible to them, when we want you to pay what is right to your children.

So rather than searching for information and help on how you can escape paying the CSA, you should be looking for advice on dealing with the CSA so you’re not blackmailed into paying too much.

This website has plenty of advice on dealing with the CSA.

Comments

59 Responses to “How do I escape paying child support?”

  1. Karl Parlane on May 14th, 2009 7:43 pm

    I am paying my ex wife for our 10 year old daughter that she wont allow me to have anything to do with. I have been to court 4 times and each time she has told the court i wont harm my daughter, She has told the courts that i love my daughter and she loves me BUT as long as i am married i will not have anything to do with her at all.
    All i want is to get out of this hell hole, I can try and live my life without my daughter in it but each month as a family we struggle to cope with bills mounting higher and higher, Bailifs calling etc etc.
    She lives very well in a 6 bedroom house in approx 9achres of land even boasting an in door swimmingpool.
    I have recently been approached by a company making me an absolute incredible offer, However its a waist of time as the CSA have already told me they will look to increase my payments.
    My step children dont have holidays anymore and hear that my daughter flys to and from America and europe several times per year. She has all she wants and never goes without unlike ours that went withthout anything for months.
    Because we gave them some presents for xmas we were unable to do a food shop for three months.
    I am now at breaking point and cannot see any reason to carry on. What can i do? We need help from this mess.

  2. anomynous on July 8th, 2009 6:17 pm

    kill her

  3. jhon myers on July 10th, 2009 4:52 pm

    well 3 judges 2 seperate caff cass reports a back ground of domesic violence , and years of not turning up 2 c him and not paying any csa payments for 6 years sounds like it was all your fault .so kill her is a crap response you dont no what your on about

  4. anonymous (Different one) on August 28th, 2009 5:24 am

    Seriously, the US “justice” system is so fucked up, kill her, srsly. (Btw, I take NO responsability on your actions, even if they’re influenced by this, or any other statments I make.) It’s the only way.

  5. kevin on September 7th, 2009 5:56 pm

    csa is gay we should only pay csa if we can see are child reguarly £32 a week duznt sound much duz it for one child but wen u dont here back from csa u start wurrying and u get an erge to call them and wen u do they say thers a hold up and u say how longs was it held up for and they say somthing like 2 months and they say ur in arreas now so that £32 for one child will become somthing like £122 a week am glad i didnt have twins i think it should stay at £32 a week no matter what duz any 1 no away to get out of paying atall ano my daughter i s my flesh and blood but cum on i think te oter perant should be forst to get a job to and we go halves thats better £16 aweek bit better and if she or he gets another partner make tem pay to csa are wankers

  6. marttin holden on November 26th, 2009 9:31 pm

    I earn £1000 per month and the CSA are taking £360 out of my wage.I pay my bills with the monies i have left, then i;m broke for 2wks. I’m sinking into the red fast. I’ve been diagnoised with depression since the CSA got there claws into me. I’ve tried appealing, my M.P. without any joy. The CSA are a law to themselves. they are wrecking my life.
    I have always paid for my children while being employed. by the way i’m on the old rules and don’t have the money to live on my own any more so have to live with my dad. i pay him £300 rent a month which isn’t taken into account. My son visits 3 nites per week and my girl comes when she wants so that isn’t taken into account. The CSA have taken away my right to enjoy time with my kids. I can’t afford to take them out anymore. What can i do. Please

  7. brandon on January 23rd, 2010 6:20 am

    i feel every ones pain, something needs to be done i make $14.50 an hour and when i work a full 40 hours a week my chesk is only $123 every friday, i work construction so hours are very low and vary during the winter months, another thing thats the check i get claim 9 on my taxes :( i am in a large amount of debt, have to live at home with my parents and still cant afford to pay my own bills, this country is rediculous, our president and government needs to look into this and fix it, it kills thousands of americans every year

  8. phil on February 3rd, 2010 9:57 pm

    i feel for u all as i am in the same position i have been paying the csa for the last 10 years at 400 a month.i am getting in to more debt due to the csa i was having my children on a regular basis now i am on sick pay and could not aforrd to pay the csa my ex has stoped me having my children intill i have paid the csa the money. to me my health and children are important as i have been advised by the dr that i may not beable to return work.and now my ex will not let me have my children what can i do can any one help i may have lost my kids and my job

  9. lisa on February 15th, 2010 11:32 pm

    hi just reading the comments im a mother with 3 kids and i dont agree with csa at all everyone deserves the chance of starting again even the fathers. with the csa its impossible for men!! to start new lives when they have had an old one as they cant afford it they cant afford to look after themselves,or enjoy life with another family,or start a new one for the csa its wrong and unfair!! they ort to look at both sets of familys ie look at the old family to see if they actually need the money!!! off the others. we have all sorts of problems with the csa its time they just got rid its a waste of money and causes stress,and suicides than anything else. i think men that have children are seen as an open wage packet for anyone!!! let everyone havea second chance in life. lets face it noone goes without anyway its just for some bizzare reason some familys can have fun and money and some carnt it needs to be equal.!!!!

  10. Anonymous on June 17th, 2010 8:32 pm

    My life has been ruined for years now and I just get looked at like a piece of crap on top of it all because of child support. They took to much and after years I have given up. They took and took and took. They would take my license, which meant I lost my job then I would go to jail. Make a payment agreement to get my license back, find a job be late on the payment because I had lost my first job because they took my license because we had an unpaid holiday. It was a non-stop circle that I ran around for years. I am about ready to kill myself seriously.

  11. Anonymous on June 17th, 2010 8:34 pm

    I won’t really kill myself. So don’t anybody make my problems even worse by traching my IP and crap.

  12. Dawn on July 23rd, 2010 7:03 am

    I’M A FEMALE AND TOTALLY AGREE ABOUT HOW SCREWED UP CHILD SUPPORT IS. I HAVE 4 KIDS…2 WITH MY CURRENT BOYFRIEND AND HE HAS JUST BEEN ORDERED TO PAY $307 A MONTH TO HIS EX FOR HIS 10 YEAR OLD HE HAS WITH HER. THE CHILD DOESN’T EVEN STAY WITH THE MOTHER. THEY LIVE IN A BIG PLACE WHILE WE’RE STRUGGLING IN A SINGLEWIDE MOBILE HOME. BUT THE COURT DOESN’T CARE ABOUT THAT. I AGREE HE SHOULD PAY SOMETHING BUT IT DOESN’T TAKE THAT MUCH FOR ONE 10 YEAR OLD. CHILD SUPPORT SHOULD BE MADE TO GO ONLY THE CHILD NOT THE MOTHER. ALL SHE DOES IS SHOP AND GO OUT TO EAT ALL THE TIME. YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN HER FACE WHEN SHE CAME OUT OF THE COURTROOM. SHE HAD A SMIRK. BUT NOTHING WILL EVER CHANGE I GUESS.

  13. mike on September 15th, 2010 11:22 pm

    If you have savings put them in an offshore bank account outside the csa,s jurisdiction, also I think it maybe possible to pay yourself through an offshore ltd company.

  14. N on December 19th, 2010 7:47 pm

    Join the French Foreign Legion. You don’t have to pay during service, and after service, you might be able to get French Nationality and settle in France.

  15. p on February 10th, 2011 9:00 am

    why do fathers need to pay child support when they are not allowed to see there children due to the mothers saying no. and when you work and try and take these mothers to court it costs a lot of money that you dont have because you pay child support, also when you find out these mothers have been sly and fall pregnant on purpose to keep a man then it back fires on them and the man wont go back to a relationship that was not working. and the man still has to pay the law is unfair.

  16. Darryl X on February 26th, 2011 9:17 pm

    Women in the developed world want all the benefits of a free culture but none of the responsibilities. They need to be held responsible and accountable for their actions. The “income-shares” model of child-support does not do that. And no reasonable alternative is ever considered. The child support system in the developed world is simply a mechanism by which malignant narcissists may hold their children hostage for ransom and defraud the fathers of their children and abuse the children. Nothing more. We are truly an evil empire, if ever one existed. Makes Libya, Egypt, North Korea and Iran look like paradise.

  17. Darryl X on February 26th, 2011 9:22 pm

    The entire concept of child support is irrelevant since almost all fathers have historically supported their children the best they can. All child support has accomplished is to absolve mothers of any responsibility for their behavior and enslave fathers. Even if the income-shares model provided for a reasonable amount of child support, it would still be irrelevant and destructive. But it doesn’t even do that. This is how bad things are in the US and why no one wants the government taking over health care. Do you want the same people presiding over your health care who preside over child support enforcement? God, what a disaster.

  18. sarah on March 7th, 2011 10:45 am

    I am a partner of sum one who pays csa and I think it is a load of s**t. The ex gets everything off the goverment a house the full wak! And then money off a ex who lives wit me!
    I herd that if they re marry u dnt hav t pay them csa r is they live wit new partner? I wanted t know how true this was and any other ways t stop paying
    And if the cild wants t cum live wit u, how do u go about doin this. As I feel she is a un fit mam the states the child comes to ours in is minging and ther the house is a mess! How would any of u’s deal wit this??

  19. m davis on March 14th, 2011 2:53 pm

    my brothers ex [girlfriend] has two of his kids, she had several affairs during their relationship my brother was faithful to her, after her last affair SHE DECIDED SHE DIDN’T WANT TO BE WITH MY BROTHER ANYMORE SO HE [MY BROTHER] was distraught and left the house [that HE paid for]
    They sold the house He gave her half the money, 5 years later she is still screwing him anyway she can, she has married and has had another child, my brother has his children 2 nights per week minimum, my brother recently had to shut down his successful business, because this bitch has csa on his back for even more than he is already paying her because she says he has bought property [after she said she doesnt want him] and that she is entitled. I know for a fact that he was not required to give her half the money for the house that he paid for but did anyway. this bitch is no more than a thief in my eyes and uses the children as emotional tools and all the while has full backing from the criminal sluts association [CSA] Its down right disgusting, something needs to be dione now before more fathers kill themselves because they have been pushed over the edge…equality? what the fuck is that then?

  20. Thomas Owens on March 15th, 2011 6:54 am

    Yes, I have the perfect solution. I wrote a book on how to stop paying child support.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/49423814/Stop-Paying-Child-Support

    Once the system gets a hold of you, they will never let you go. You are their bread & butter. Millions of people would lose their high paying jobs if people stopped paying child support. Beside, no amount of money is ever enough for the women. They will always be whining and fine a need for more and more money. Your best bet is to avoid child support and let them whine to each other like here on this forum. Guess what we are going into a depression, and guess what ? your still going to have to pay child support and when things get better in 5 to 7 years, your still going to have to pay, plus interest. So get my book and be a man.

  21. anon on May 20th, 2011 7:11 am

    Wow..

    You all need to man up, and better yourselves so that you can support the kids that you brought into the world.. got a crappy job? work hard and get a better one.. yes your support goes up, but so does your take home. your support is going to help your child… now, and to go to school. Before you slam me, I am separated, have a daughter, that I have for half the time, and have to pay 700 a month in support and special expenses. This is what is required buy the law.. so I pay it. it pisses me off to see men, hiding income and trying to get out of paying child support.. you are giving men a bad name, and you are the reason agencies like the CSA have to exist. for every one man that legitimately has a beef with the amount of support that he has to pay, 10 are are just greedy and what what they consider their money.. your kids have a right to your money, like it or not.. Man up, stop making it harder for men to have equal time with the kids by giving us a bad name, and live up to your responsibilities.

  22. anne-marie parker on May 31st, 2011 8:32 pm

    i have a nine year old son for who i have had no support for from the father what so ever. we were in a relationaship when i fell preganant which incidently wasnt to trap him things just didnt work out between us. i tried to get him to have contact with his son but he didnt ant to know unless he was in a relationship with me. i have struggled as a single parent for nine years and never asked for a penny. i also work hard so am not sponging off anybody. i recently got a letter off csa saying they had an enforcemnet order on my sons father and i should be recieving some payment very shortly. i suppose all you people think this is wrong and i shouldnt get a penny. i have never stopped him ccontacting his son he shirked his responsibilities. opinions please

  23. pharaoh on June 19th, 2011 6:03 pm

    Anne-marie parker you are not wrong, he is being a dead beat… these guy’s are angry because they are getting there pockets raped by the system and they can’t see there children ! I know that feeling all to well my ex use my money to buy pain pills to get high and to get her nails done. Never did she let me see my children unless she wanted a baby sitter . she is very selfish. but you are doing what you need to do!

  24. jamie on June 22nd, 2011 3:22 pm

    ok I have a problem with the csa. on a avrage i take home £1000-£1200 a month the csa have just up there money to almost 600 pounds a month my rent is 320 pounds a mounth so that 920 pounds gone straight away. I agree i have to pay for him but i need money for clothes food and train fare to work witch the csa wont take in to acount i only have one son age 12 . and the back payment is only cos the mother was unsure who the father was(that why i left her) then she say it not mine,so got a dna test done when he was 6 years of age (so he mine) and before i even started paying csa i was in arrers cos the mum was unfaithful. i now have a girlfriend who i love she is devorced and has 2 kids one of 7 and one of 14. but i dont dere tell the csa cos if you have a girl friend they think you can live of her wadges(wrong). i have no life can not even take my girlfriend out for a drink . or buy my self train tickit to work and i have to walk 13 miles there and 13 miles back.

    I had enough of this im so depressed i have bills tom pay after my bills and rent and csa took a big chunk out my wadges i was left with 10 pounds to live on for a mounth. i told the csa i have a loan to pay off witch i got before i knew he was mine. and the csa told me i should thought about getting a loan before i had a kid(excact words!!) . The mother wont even let me see him but she let him phone up and swear at me down the phone. yes i agree i have to pay but not that much it wrong. she has i nice 2 bed house nice new car goes out clubbing getting drunk at weekends. why i go back to a room i rent with no t.v no computer just a bed. I think the csa was founded by women that hate men they need to know that it not just the men who are bad. some of the women are the ones that are bad i feel i being victumised. can any one give me advice or show me how to blow up the csa building grrrrrrr.

  25. ken normington on July 6th, 2011 5:10 am

    all i can say about the csa is there a set of tossers the lot of them

  26. justine on July 6th, 2011 4:01 pm

    There are clearly a lot of flaws in the CSA system. I am just wondering if the people that can not afford to pay the maintenance set by the CSA have considered working less and having the children more therefore allowing the resident parent to work more sharing the cost and care more equally. Of course when I suggested this to my ex he told me he could not afford to work less..But of course I can, even though I have an extra mouth to feed….In his opinion anyway!!

  27. wendy on August 24th, 2011 11:44 pm

    have seen both sides of the story i don,t dissagree with the csa but i think it sould b under different reasons my husband payed for the depoist on his house his girlfriend at the time was not working she carried on at the time when my husband came home from working abroad she didnt even worry about it it the police came to the houise and told my husband he had 30mins to get out the csa are a joke they don,t give a monkeys about the second family the go on about child povity and they put most of them in povety it is a joke

  28. wendy on August 24th, 2011 11:52 pm

    i forgot to say i have disabled daughter but that dosen,t matter to the csa they dont care as long as they have money for the first family

  29. wendy on August 25th, 2011 12:00 am

    forgot to tell u that my husband payed the money for the house she did,nt work at the time . he payed 38,000 for it and now she is selling it for 90,000 odd so where is the justice in the it is a jokje

  30. Jonathon on September 19th, 2011 5:49 pm

    Guys listen, i’m in a library in Louisiana, for guys who want to get out of support, Run, me and others run, we move a lot and have met others who run too, we are posting these messages for men who are on the brink, sadly my best friend committed suicide over paying child support and was going broke. so like others, i took up running. unless your in our shoes, you have no idea what it’s like. Men start running, people who know your running will help, we have camps and hide away places and safe houses. Society wants you to take up support so you can line the pockets of CSA with cash. i was paying for two kids who are not mine but because i was married and she cheated and conceived two kids with this man and tricked me into signing the certs. btw for female responders, in louisiana, if the child is born while your married to the spouse who gave birth to the child, no matter what, its your child. RUN Guys RUN, ” Run fast and run in the shadows for the csa has eyes on you”

  31. wadaguy4u on October 26th, 2011 2:57 am

    The answer is very simple once you accept the fact that men have no rights as fathers in America. The entire Child Support Agency is staffed by angry and bitter women, that are more then willing to use unethical actions in order to criminalize fathers. Many people say to kill your wife, but that won’t stop the racketeering in the system, and your ultimate destruction. The only way to turn the problem around is to make the civil employees in the system live in fear, then they will begin to think twice about their corruption and the direct consequences. Real fear is a great motivator for change. So if your thinking of ending it all, at least go out making a difference for the rest of us victims…besides there’s thousands of them to choose from and only one wife that leads directly to you. Of course I’m only referring to legal actions…lol.

  32. emy on November 2nd, 2011 7:45 pm

    you spineless pathetic bunch of cowards and idiots…….how dare you all even try to compare yourself to someone left with children….and all of you women defending all of these fuc…rs i hope and i wish one day you will be in such a convenient position as single mother. now F…K YOU ALL!!!!

  33. Fandango on December 21st, 2011 4:00 pm

    Thank you for all your comments. It was quite amuseing to hear different views and opinions. I myself am tied down with the CSA. My Ex wife is a very angry and shallow women. I dont see my children and i am struggling just like the rest of you to make a new happy life. Seriously i agree that we should put up and just try to move one. But what happens when you have tried and put yourself out only to find heartache from the suffering and hurt that the new people in your life who love you have to endure along with you. My wife had an affair and that how we broke up. i forgived her but she wouldnt let this other person go. We got a divorce and gained three quaters of the profit from the house. thanked me for being very reasonable and said that i was such a nice guy and its a shame that she isnt still in love with me. She said that she would never take me to the CSA for all that i had suffered and all that i had done. Afew months later after blowing all her money and not wanting to work she took me to the CSA. It hurt me, our children and my new partner and her children as they take an amount that leaves us really struggling. I am a nice guy, i’m sure that most of you guys are too. We can’t give in and the people who have commented with just accept it are the people that cant finf or dont want happiness and have already give in. If your child was constantly being bullied you wouldnt say ‘just accept it ‘and then ignore it. We need to stand together and work together. Communicate and understand each other. Everyone has the right to live and there is no reason for either party to be unhappy. It only takes a small compremise. The problem is some people cant get shut of their anger and just want to cause there existing partner pain. The Threat is the CSA, they’re unreasonable, inhumane and very arrogant. Unproffessional and unsincere. They need to be stopped and something has to be done. If we as parents who have lost the chance to live just lie down, then we are lying down for all those that are constantly being bullied, lying down for the week people on this planet who cant defend themselfs and we are not doing what makes us human. To stop caring and to stop believing is giving up all rights to be human. If you are reading this and have any idea’s legaly on how we can change the way of practise and make afew lifes better or less painful, please feel free to email me with your idea’s. Chin up people, ignore the negative comments on this site and concentrate on putting your next actions to good will. Take care, [email protected]

  34. a.bailey on January 3rd, 2012 6:31 pm

    open a pension scheme paying just a little more than c.s.a take off you, cancel it after you recieve your 1st statement then inform c.s.a that you have now got a pension for future finansial reasons

  35. John on January 9th, 2012 6:44 pm

    I have 2 children with my ex. They are 13 and 16. Their mother receives 1200 a month from me for child support. She lives in a home fully paid off worht $400,000. Sje earns 90,000 a year. She has redone her home in many ways, takes 2 to three vacations a year and has a very good bank account. I am re-married and am struggling to pay a mortgage and take care of my wife (hasn’t worked in 6 years) and 5 year old child. We have a home with a mortgage I can barely pay. Roof leaks and can’t afford a new one. Haven’t had a vacation in over 7 years and can’t even afford cable television. My wife is from another country where her parents live. They are old and in sick health. My wife wants to move there to take care of them. I need to stay here and work. I will be separated from her and my 5 year old for who knows how long because I can’t leave my job. I’m from NJ and they will not reduce or stop child support for any reason just about. If I leave illegally and just stop paying they will take it from my SS when I am able to retire. Then, I won’t be able to retire. When I divorced, I gave my ex the house to have child support at $50 a week. When she petitioned the court 4 years later to ask that the support be raised, the judge didn’t even care about the divorce agreement and just raised my support to the max. Each year they raise it a little more and you can’t even fight it. I’ve felt like a prisoner since the divorce. I haven’t seen the kids much and they always seem to have something planned on the weekends, scouting, dance, karate, whatever. Child support is a scam for good people. I have always thought of the kids never missing birthdays, christmas, graduations, etc. and have tried my best to be a father. But the court system makes it more than unbearable. It’s a joke, but I could have killed her many years ago and been out of prison by now. This way I have at least 8 more years of the prison of child support. What a shit world we live in.

  36. Brian on January 19th, 2012 9:34 pm

    EVERYONE GET YOUR MP involved!! NO matter what.

    Regardless send them a copy of every letter you send to the CSA. You’ll be amazed how many NRPs together we can get better, improved, group response. Don’t let the MP do nothng! Stand up and get the MP over worked with local CSA cases guaranteed to piss them off and force the issues directly with higher CSA bods..please pass this message on.

    CSA will only take notice if an MP gets pissed off ;-)

    Thanks
    Brian

  37. mike on January 29th, 2012 3:20 pm

    first of all every female on here pretty much says that men need to man up….well first of all it takes TWO to make a child now that being said it should be down the middle and fair but women just wanna stick it to hard working man to pay half his check so she can spend half of it on her new man while the kid is at her parents house…..but women drag you into court trying to milk it for all its worth and turn the screw on man the system we are under isnt fair to any man and half the time a man is a better parent and provider….PRIME EXAMPLE; KASEY ANTHONY!!!!

  38. mike on January 29th, 2012 3:27 pm

    like i said it takes two you wouldnt have been able to make a baby if she didnt spread her legs first right duhhhh so why does it always fall on the man instead of women trying to live off the govt or a man try to get a freakin job be an adult responsibilty goes both ways

  39. Anon on February 2nd, 2012 8:09 pm

    What is an MP?

  40. king p ck that what they think on March 9th, 2012 5:54 am

    well have been running for 15 years just got bill for very little good run been sending bank letters to the bank branch for 14 years they found it last year 6 moths after finding it they tried to do final charging order to the bank how have found me from the dvla best way to hide is not use your middle name makes it very hard to find
    next tip before you run get it to the min then run to hide cash in paypal and gold if you what a home buy it and but in new wifes name get her to sign a rental to you for free for the next xx years …. use expat shield and internet to phone them if you do have not payed any tax and going to pay then soon use c card and when to tax comes go bust then f them all well he will 19 soon

  41. ELJ on March 18th, 2012 10:57 am

    I am just getting done over by the CSA I see my boy etc he has everything but her mothers benefits have stopped now she is just getting greedy etc. So help to avoid it would be good in my oppinion because some times the woman is at fault and fathers have no rights or say in anything when it comes to CSA so they deserve fuck all depending on your cirumstances.

  42. StevenK on March 24th, 2012 10:23 am

    You’re all morons.

    Why do you think your partners / ex partners should pay for the children solo!!? $50 a week is nothing for food rent and bills and clothes and god knows what else for children.

    Didn’t want to pay for them? Can’t afford them? Wear a fucking condom.

    You’re all the type of men that girls get taught to stay clear from. Shame they never learn.

  43. Steve on April 2nd, 2012 11:33 am

    Absolute outrage! I have been paying (as ANY father should) for my daughter since the day I found out she was mine. My ex was sleeping around behind my back whilst I was at University and got pregnant.

    I had to take her to court to get a DNA test done, go to court for access, go to court for Parental Responsibility and the RIGHT to be on her Birth Certificate ALL OF THIS AT MY OWN COST! When she sat there in her FREE home, with her FREE solicitor in her FREE time! I had to pay over £1500 in expenses, court fee’s/DNA testing/Time off work. If the shoe was on the other foot, she would have had all of this FOR FREE as she does not work, has no intention of going back to work as she has it too cushty due to the stupid British Gov’t!

    I contacted the CSA off my own back, it costs me over £200 a month which I believe is outragous. I get paid £1000 a month, I pay taxes/National Insurance and have to pay rent/bills/council tax/travel expenses to get to work which amounts to around £700 then add food to that bill takes it to around £900. Tell me how it is fair that I have to find £100 per month from somewhere or struggle to feed myself when she gets everything free!

    Essentially, I am better off not working and becoming another statistic of young unemployed graduate in the UK sponging off the Gov’t. Mothers get a free ride, I hate the way this country is run.

  44. ELJ on April 4th, 2012 2:48 pm

    Steve I feel your pain my ex is going to be using my money to feed her mothers gambling addiction!, I have had a painsteaking ride today of how they are taking more money off me then I earn etc. Mothers get it free women have more rights then men and it will always be that way as far as I am concerned there is lack of support for single fathers and csa talk to you like dirt on the phone well the WOMEN do.

    Get used to it.

  45. the real deal on May 7th, 2012 9:41 pm

    just fake your death and go on the black market for a un used social security

  46. Carmen on May 9th, 2012 5:25 am

    You are all either a bunch of fools or never got passed third grade if you honestly believe that child support is actually suppose to be for the child. It is a way to punish fathers for having children and also a way for “MOMMY” to make her car payments, get a good tan, get her hair and nails done and buy that nice new dress for her “night job” as an escort or hooker.

    Fathers are punished for having children, while mothers are praised for being vindictive and having affairs as well as destroying the lives of their ex-husbands and children in the process. Men are required to pay child support or go to jail. Women are allowed to never let the father see the children and still force the fathers to pay child support.

    Family Courts and Judges don’t care about the best interest of the child and they sure as hell don’t give a damn about fathers. They are in it for the money and to help women destroy the American Society and family values. Judges hand over their balls to the women’s advocacy and victim’s assistance groups when they get to the bench.

    If you truly want to destroy a country, you don’t threaten them, you use the court system to screw everything and everyone all up until you take everyone’s rights away from them and then you can simply take over the country. You don’t have to be smart to be a Judge.

    I live in the USA and can honestly say as a father, I have fewer rights than someone living in a communist country. I have someone not even related to me, the ex-wife’s’ boyfriend that kidnapped my child, threatens my life as well as told me that he will see to it that not only will I pay child support, but he will personally see to it that I never see my child ever again.

    To this day, he has done just that as well as the ex-wife has had her many free attorneys win every case, regardless how unethical they did it. They twisted all of the facts, added extra lies without facts or evidence and were able to assist in giving direction on how the mother and her boyfriend were to break all of the laws and legally get away with it.

    Just knowing a man that boast about being a pedophile and child molester, kidnapped and is raising my child and telling me that my child has no idea that I am the father and does not even know about me, while the child calls the pedophile “Daddy”, make me sick to my stomach. Yet this man tells the courts that my child is “fucked up” because of me, a father that has not seen his son since the child was molested and kidnapped, four years ago by this sex offender that is raising him.

    I admit that I must be really stupid in believing that a vindictive mother along with a pedophile might be the reason why my child is supposedly so messed up. Yet they tell the courts that it is because I had my son for three weeks of his life and that messed him up.

    Should a father that desperately has tried for four years to find any way possible to be a part of his child’s life and was deliberately refused all contact by the ex-wife and her boyfriend be forced to pay child support and go to jail even when the mother tells the court that she will never allow the father to have any contact with the child?

    Why does a self-admitting pedophile that boasts to the police and judges about being a child molester be allowed more rights to a child of another man? Why is this man allowed to not only commit sex crimes against a small child, but kidnap and hide the child as well as raise the child as his own and continue to threaten the real father of the child allowed to go free?

  47. Anon on May 9th, 2012 7:57 pm

    I am a single mom and since we broke up my x has fathered more children. He now uses the new family as an excuse as to why he cannot contribute regularly to our child. Whatever money I earn is split between me and my child i provide everything without the CSA I have no way of getting any help from my x as he ‘can’t afford it’ CSA is necessary for some fathers who wish to avoid their responcibilities. Maybe there needs to be a system that gives fathers access to their children without the expensive court costs. And to the women who think CSA is a load of rubbish you should try being in the other single mothers shoes and remember that if you start a relationship with a man you take on his past too which means responcibilities he is not just a single guy

  48. Mel on May 14th, 2012 7:48 pm

    i am not sticking up for PWC nor NRP. I have a case with csa to collect money off my ex partner for my 2 children that i had with hin when we was in a relationship, at first we had a private agreement but he paid money for our children when it suited him and spent the rest of the money on his new girlfriend and her child taking them out etc.. that was in 2009 when i setted up a claim at first he he stuck to the payment schedual that was worked out by csa untill he decided in 2010 that he didnt want to have a stable job and pay csa so finished his stable job and went on agency book doing work here there and everywhere, but never told csa about his new job aspect of working for agencies where he quite easily eart upto £600 pounds a week. to top it all off he got a new girlfriend and mover her into his rented house with her 2 children and supported her and her family not even thinking about helping his own children out and was only paying 5 pounds a week for his children, by this point csa was chasing him through inland revenue and the appropriate channels to find out where he lived etc and his wage details whilst he ignored everything from them letters etc. then in 2011 they caught up with him and worked out that his payment would increase to 12 pounds a week, but my exparner did not like this and canceled his direct debit to csa in feb 2011 and since then has not paid anything at all and been earning at least 400+ a week in wages from what csa been calculating through his employer.he is now still ignoring every bit of contact csa try to get in contact with him and his arrears just keep mounting up and he owes over £3500.00 now. and finally csa can take him to court to get a liability order and get the money he owes our children. just to let you all know this person has managed to get married, have a child, have noumerous holidays and cars, but no money for his kids since feb 2011. when ever i speak to his wife she keeps saying it all sorted and they cant afford to pay for my children with my ex partner and my current partner should pay for everything as i have 2 children with him and as he lives with me it is his responsibility.All they keep saying is csa is the problem but my ex partner has not supplied any information to csa that they ask for on nourmerous occassions since the criminal compliance team went out to his address in 2011, sorry tell a lie he contact them in december 2011 to complain about how many nights he had the children for was wrong on the assesment, but wasn’t. so in my oppinion not all fathers are innocent but not all mothers that have care are innocent cause i know some women do work the system. all i ask for is that my children get the same as his children with his current partner gets but that seems impossible.

  49. john on May 17th, 2012 8:48 pm

    Your child is your child whether you get to see them or not.

    Any useless excuse for a man who wants to dodge supporting his own child should be castrated or shot or both.. you may not get on with the mother any more but that is no excuse to deprive your own child.

    If me and my other half go our separate ways the CSA won’t need to make me support my child. I would go out of my way to make sure he got everything I could provide and to make sure he grows up well. And I wouldn’t roll over so easily on the access as some of the crying wimp fathers who don’t pay child support do.. “oh she won’t let me see the child”.. so he gives up without a fight.. waste of space. To anybody like that getting hot under the collar reading this here is some advice..

    grow a set of balls and be a man. Stop hiding behind excuses, get your act together and be someone your child will respect and be proud of when they look back at it all.

  50. john2 on May 20th, 2012 1:26 pm

    @john
    “Your child is your child whether you get to see them or not.

    Any useless excuse for a man who wants to dodge supporting his own child should be castrated or shot or both.. you may not get on with the mother any more but that is no excuse to deprive your own child.

    If me and my other half go our separate ways the CSA won’t need to make me support my child. I would go out of my way to make sure he got everything I could provide and to make sure he grows up well. And I wouldn’t roll over so easily on the access as some of the crying wimp fathers who don’t pay child support do.. “oh she won’t let me see the child”.. so he gives up without a fight.. waste of space. To anybody like that getting hot under the collar reading this here is some advice..

    grow a set of balls and be a man. Stop hiding behind excuses, get your act together and be someone your child will respect and be proud of when they look back at it all.”

    You piece of shit man-hater. We will see how big you talk when it happens to you, you little internet coward. You are a traitor to your gender.

  51. Jeorjette on May 31st, 2012 5:34 pm

    I don’t understand why you are all complaining. Some women are indeed taking advantage of the CSA to take some extra money for themselves, but if there would be an agreement between the ex partners it would be much easier. Also men in this position barely offer economic support, let alone educational or moral. Children don’t need only money, they also need to have the presence of fathers, paying a ridiculous amount of child support will not compensate the lack of love from a father. It’s possible the laws have been created like this due to the lack of responsibility from most fathers. When I see some guys complaining that their step children get less amenities than ur biological children it makes me feel sick. If you lived with the mothers you would have to pay about the same amount of money but since you are separated you resent the idea. I don’t know what kind of woman would use their child to get revenge on the fathers, but I bet the percentage of them is significantly less compared to that of the irresponsible fathers.

  52. Paul Mcandrew on June 8th, 2012 2:25 pm

    CSFOO2 Form dropped through letterbox today. What do I do!!!!!!!!! NO MONEY, NO JOB, and NO CAR.? My current wife has taken everything. We had a good life and I do love her. She left will the children on the 13th Feb. Sold our car(15K), sold a jointly owned EU apartment(60K), spent over (100k) during 2011. Now I have to fill a CSA CSFOO2. Any one got any good ideas?

  53. David on July 10th, 2012 6:53 pm

    The court supposedly is gender neutral in basing its decisions on custody. The child’s interest is supposedly paramount. However even if the man earns more, can provide a better environment and education, the custody still goes to the mother, unless you can prove she’s a danger for the child! So even if tehre are 2 children, the mother will still get both. Where’s father’s rights? Is the Justice System gender neutral really? Is a father merely a paying machine? A slave to a disgruntled woman?

    Having read all these and much more elsewhere, I’m now nearly fully convinced I’ll never get married [not to any self-centered, individualistic skank in the UK or anywhere else in the Western world] and will be extremely careful sleeping with 30+ yrs/o women! I’m still young and don’t want to be a slave for the next 20 yrs of my life in a system that spoon feed women and demonise fathers. I’ll donate my sperm to a fertility clinic for the sake of propagation of the species. If my 30+ gf wants a baby, I’ll tell her fertility clinics are opened for business! It’s sad that things have to come this way, but there’s no way around. I wouldn’t mind paying for my child but the way this is being done is pure harassment.

    It wouldn’t be a bad idea to omit saying your last name or even lie about your name when sleeping with a woman given the current situation men are being put under. Men are guilty by default, women are always innocent until proven guilty! Now I understand why in many communities, why the black man simply flees and have so many illegitimate children by different women. I meant you might as well; reading some here, I think out of desperation I’d be tempted to do the same thing until I can no more be charged anymore and end up in jail! It wouldn’t be an exageration to say that many of you must have thought about giving it all up; it wouldn’t take much to imagine how such initially functional law abiding men could easily crumble down. You could leave or loss your job, claim benefits, loss your house, end up on the street or in prison and ultimately turning into real criminals!

  54. Viv on January 30th, 2013 2:32 pm

    My partner has three kids with his ex who gets all the benefits under the sun, goes abroad twice a year, has a council house and has never worked in her life. She refuses to allow him to see his kids and has moved and hidden her address so he cant find them, even though he has a court order allowing him to see them. It would cost him about £400 in travel a day to go to the part of the UK they live in to see them, even if he did have their address. Yet he still has £360 a month ripped from him, the useless courts not doing anything and the even more useless mother spending all of the money on herself. Both myself and my partner work long hours every day and for what? We are skint and have no life while these devious hussies get everything. Time to change the law methinks

  55. gardenweed on February 21st, 2013 12:50 pm

    csa is a load of shit. how the fuk can any 1 keep robbing peter to pay paul? peter is getting pissed off about now. if the childs mother would let me see the child i would happly pay for the child. but as the mother. free house, free money, and the right to free everything. and they dictate to us they know if we work were not intytled to any support we have to pay solisotors fees and the csa bill im not refusing to pay the bastards im just saying if i could have regular contact with the kid. without her being there i would pay. if i waned to see her all the fucking time i would have stayed with her.

    if your a dad and they wont let u see the kid then the kid is not your responsability as she is the mom and knows best

  56. Helphelp on May 14th, 2013 10:12 pm

    I pay 1800 a month for two kids.
    I can’t pay my bills at all, hire a lawyer and my credit score has taken such a huge impact.

    I owe 5000 dollars in arrears and soon will be evicted.

  57. Arandom Persona on July 20th, 2013 8:52 pm

    There are several more ways any disgruntled fathers can use to take their bargaining power back with the courts that aren’t covered in this article but are covered extensively in this new book on how to avoid child support – http://www.getoutofchildsupport.org

  58. amanda on September 10th, 2013 10:54 am

    My BF has 2 kids and his ex was already married to a Swiss National. my BF works only for his own non profit business which he doesnt have monthly income currently in belgium. now his ex is asking her euro 1700 for i dont know which basis did the govt of swiss decided.. and she even not happy of what she is rcvng.. now my bf has debt to swiss govt. damn her.. btw she is not working and all the time bitching.

  59. sandra on September 24th, 2013 10:46 am

    I am the wife who is fed up with the CSA – we have been paying an incredible sum of money to my husband’s ex for 18 years and we are still paying even though he is now at university! We had not had any contact with the kid ever and the mother hasn’t worked for over ten years – she hasn’t had to – we are paying for her!!! I have two jobs so we can afford to live and pay for our own son, who is disabled…. we go without all the time because of the fat lazy ex -and the CSA won’t help – they just continue taking the money – the mother is now fruadulently claiming child benefit so we are still paying maintenance – this seems like it will never end,…

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