Will the CSA take my new partner’s earnings into account?

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  1. Mario on September 7th, 2010 1:45 pm

    Will the CSA take my new partner’s earnings into account?

  2. julie on December 8th, 2011 10:48 am

    do csa take my partners earnings into account

  3. Darren on February 16th, 2012 12:16 pm

    The CSA will take the partners of the non-custodial parent wages into account, but they DO NOT take the partner of the custodial parent into account.

    Therefore….. my ex-wife could live with Sir Alan Sugar and nothing he earns is taken into account when working out maintenance money, but my current wife is on minimum wage and her salary is included in the CSA sums (although her salary is not calculated as a direct percentage paid, as is the parents salary).

  4. Brian on February 16th, 2012 3:53 pm

    Its all F**ked up and the misery is still going on.

    I was informed that my partners earnings are NOT taken into account as we have no children together. She lives with me and pays my mortgage etc, If your partner has children AND receives Tax credit or benefits then yes the CSA take this into account.

    So get yourself a very understanding, kind, rich partner and Don’t have children. Thta’s what the CSA are in a way advising.

  5. chall on February 16th, 2012 7:07 pm

    On CS1 (cases opened before 03/03/03) a partners income is taken into account.

    On CS2 it is ONLY the NRP’s income and NOT their partners.

    chall ~ afairercsaforall

  6. paula on July 23rd, 2012 2:45 pm

    Hi can someone please clarify then that if a claim was only made this year to CSA , they will not take new partners income into account?

    Thank you

    confused ;-/

  7. Michael - CSAhell.com staff on July 23rd, 2012 3:16 pm

    Hi Paula, no the new partner’s income won’t be taken into account.

    I believe there is a seldom used rule that applies if the NRP and their new partner run a company together and monies are paid between them, but that’s very hard to prove and enforce, hence hardly ever comes up.

  8. paula on July 24th, 2012 2:40 pm

    Thanks Michael, thats great. At least we now know. :)

  9. Andrea on August 3rd, 2012 5:04 pm

    I am still confused. My partner split up with his wife last July, and we met in October. From the day she moved out, he has paid her the required CSA amount every month, as was mutually agreed between them. They have no property or savings, as neither do I. I live with my mother and 21 year old son, currently pay half of the bills each with Mum, but he is moving in with me and will start paying her half.

    My concern is, will his ex be able to claim more from him once he has moved in with me because she will see him as having more expendable income!!

  10. Dan on August 27th, 2012 4:24 pm

    Can somebody please help

    If my ex wife goes through the CSA do they take her wages into consideration as well when working out a final figure?
    She earns more than me and also gets all Working tax credits, child benefits etc etc.

    All answers will be gratefully appreciated.

  11. lisa on September 4th, 2012 1:37 pm

    my partner has just rcently sorted out csa with his ex wife, she has now said she wants to take him to court for excess to the kids and wants me in court too as she wants to know all my finances. can someone please advise if this is correct if she has a right to do this?

  12. Sally on September 12th, 2012 9:48 am

    @ Dan – if your ex is the PWC (parent with care) who recieves child benefit then the answer to your question is no, the CSA do NOT take into account her income.

    @ Lisa – my understanding is that all CSA claims that were made before 2003 included the partners income, after that only the NRP’s income was considered so the answer to your question would be no, she cannot force you to go to court to gain access to your private financial information. It is absolutely none of her business what your financial status is!!

  13. cheryl on September 28th, 2012 1:02 am

    so is this right they take child tax credit in to account, which i no they do as they taking off me for my husbands kids, but if i worked can they take that is the question i need anwsering

  14. Lisa J on October 12th, 2012 3:10 pm

    My husband has a csa claim against him from about 10 years ago. He used to pay this regularly, however, unfortunately he went to prison about 6 years ago, so the payments obviously stopped. This all occured long before we knew each other. Now that he is out of prison, he has been contacted by the CSA for the balance of the money that was due. They have asked for my earnings details too, however, we are currently not allowed to live together due to the conditions of his license and we have a small 14 month old daughter of our own. Do I have to provide my earnings details in these circumstances ?
    Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

  15. Way... on October 29th, 2012 10:17 pm

    @lisa j. i believe you should call the CSA and claim against your partner… this would half the amount he has to pay to his ex…

    play the csa rules against them… your not living together so…

    My ex is taking my wages and kids income, me and my wife are considering “splitting”… and i would move into my dads ;)… we have two kids together, this means 25% of my wage (200) which is 50, this would be devided by three… 1/3 to ex, and 2/3 to wife…

    (hope you understand)

    the backdating balance? I hope that the csa took acount of him being in prison therefore a nil assesment for the six years…

    do not send info to csa. and say you are putting in a claim against him… CSA will not affect any benefit you are on,!!!

  16. Sally on October 30th, 2012 8:21 am

    @ Lisa, i’d have to agree with ‘Way… on’ – you should use your situation to your advantage as the CSA do not care about you or your child, they are only interested in the money the recieve. Claim child maintenance from your partner.

    @ ‘Way… on’ – There was a time I would have said you ‘splitting’ from your partner was wrong (if it was, to use the CSA rules against themselves), but after dealing with the CSA for almost 3 years, I now feel that it’s each man for himself. The CSA with their ludicrous rules and set criteria is forcing honest people into terrible situations and the most important part of all of this is that the welfare of the kids is not even being considered!!!!… You do what is right for you, your current partner and your kids :-)

    Good luck to you both!! :-)

  17. Caz on November 7th, 2012 9:49 pm

    Any one with information? It would be wonderful.
    My husband volunteered information to the CSA about a salary change, he is on the pre-2003 scheme. They then realised he had a partner and have now asked for my salary. How do they use my salary in the calculation? It is similar salary to my husbands, could this double his payment, or worse? Can they back date it?
    Can I refuse to give this information or do we end up with a fine/court if I do that?
    I’d really like to understand how my salary is used and can’t find the information anywhere! :)

  18. Ace on November 11th, 2012 7:46 pm

    My husband has a son from a previous relationship he’s paid maintenance for many yrs through the csa, however he lost his job in june and has been on jobseekers since i’ve recently been offered a job which i really want to take does anyone know if the csa would take the maintenance payments from my wage as my husband still hasn’t found work?

  19. Sally on November 12th, 2012 10:54 am

    @ Caz – my (limited) understanding is that because your partners case was pre-2003 your income (and household expenditure) is taken into account to calculate child maintenance payments.

    Chall will probably give you the correct information as mine is based on my experience, which is that my income was not included because the CSA claim was made post-2003.

  20. chall on November 12th, 2012 4:46 pm

    When working out net income, the CSA exclude the income of any partner living with the parent. But they do use a partner’s income when working out other parts of the amount of child maintenance that must be paid, such as protected income.
    They only take account of the income of a NRPP when working out protected income.

    A NRPP not legally obligated to disclose their finances.
    However, in some cases, it can be beneficial to the NRP for their partner to disclose such, especially if they are on a low wage or are a non-earner as the CSA will automatically assume that the NRPP can contribute to 50% of the bills/housing costs, thereby upping the NRP’s maintenance payments (as they are assumed to have more disposable income). If the NRPP is not earning, or earns a low wage, then they can’t contribute to the housing costs.


  21. angie on November 27th, 2012 1:50 pm

    my husbands ex has decided to stop him seeing his child but now he has re married she is claiming csa she has 4 kids to differant people including one to the guy she lives with he works full time and wants to adopt my partners where does he stand re csa

  22. jen on January 21st, 2013 12:44 pm

    my husband has been divorced from his wife for 16 years for 16 years he did not have to pay csa because of his wage his company was taken over and he had a slight payrise we do not get tax credits cause they keep cocking it up we have a mortgage coucil tax gas electric water etc like many others his payrise was an extra 100 pound a week csa now take 180 a week for arrears that they cant explain his pay differnce was over 3 months but say he has 4000 arrears how is this fair do they know what they are doing

  23. nikki on January 22nd, 2013 4:06 pm

    hi i am just wondering, i have been trying to get allowances from an ex for 5 years now and (apparently) does not work he lives with a gf for the last 2 years who has a really good income, and refuses him to work so he does not have to pay for his kids, would the csa take her wages into account instead then or not x

  24. wilf on January 22nd, 2013 7:06 pm

    Nikki:- No.

  25. tina on January 26th, 2013 1:36 pm

    hi can anyone help please,
    my partner is paying CSA £200 a month and i am thinking of getting a part timejob as we are struggling with our rent and bills etc, we have children together and they are taking my child tax cedits into it but i do not want to get a job if also my wage will to as his ex wife is on about £600 a WEEK and does not work and gets help with her rent if not all paid as she as 7 childern only 2 been my partners i am so confused with it all thanks to anyone who can help x

  26. Ian on January 28th, 2013 10:31 am

    Can someone explain to me why is it the CSA are able to take into account the Child Tax Credits of a NRP and Partner if they have a child and give to the PWC that is already receiving full tax credits, is that not taking from one child to give to others that are already getting full payment.

    I do not mind supporting my children financially, but not at the cost of my other child. I think the CSA should re-think their criteria. My ex is working full time and married to her new partner, they are both earning around 40k per year between them and receive tax credits, child benefit etc…. I do not work as I am currently studying and my partner is working full time. We have one child together and my partner has three of her own.

    Will the CSA take only a small amount of money from the tax credits or will they take a large amount, as I don’t feel my partners other 3 should suffer because of me or our child. Would it be better for me to move out and pay her CSA payments as well when I am back at work??

  27. chall on January 28th, 2013 11:51 am


    At present, for child support purposes-

    Are deemed the income of the higher earner. If earnings are equal, they are split 50/50.
    Are deemed the income of the NRP.


  28. william on January 29th, 2013 3:26 pm

    can someone help with this? have a deo from csa for last 2 1/2 years .they take £110 per week ,they say £77 for the chid,and the rest to pay off over £40000 arrears,they claim i owe. totally stressed out, will not live long enugh to pay this off.on a weeks leave now,so next week ,my take home pay will be £127,as i work a 30 hour contract.got married 4 years ago ,and mived into my wifes house,which she bought 10 years before i met her. do the csa have any claim on this property,as i never told them about it? can they leave me with such a small amount to live on,or shud i dispute it?

  29. Sally on January 29th, 2013 5:01 pm

    @ Ian – omg…. what a terrible mess the CSA have put you in!!

    I cannot give you any CSA specific advice – if I could it would be to avoid them, however, what I do know is that the CSA has no claim on your wife’s property as long as your name is not associated with it (i.e. on the title deeds or mortgage payments)…. they would have if you owned it jointly (regardless if your wife bought it with her own money)… not much help to your i’m afraid but i’d definitely involve your MP if you can…

    good luck and I hope you keep us posted on how you are getting on!

  30. Sally on January 29th, 2013 5:02 pm

    @ William… my post to Ian was meant for you… sorry!!

  31. John on February 2nd, 2013 12:57 pm

    Hello, great link and some usefull stories here :)
    I have 3 children ( 2 with one ex, and two with another) and I am under the old terms. Recently 2 of them have come to live with me permenantly so when I contacted the CSA to inform them and gave them my updated details, I mentioned I live with my partner. They keep calling me and asking for my partners income details. Do I have to give them ? It seems unfair as I have only been with her a few months and she earns minimum wage and is a foreign national.
    Will they take money from her ? She says she will go home if they do as she earns so littel as it is and feels insulted that she is getting dragged into this, and then that will leave me in financial dire straights.
    Thanks People :)

  32. Michelle on February 2nd, 2013 8:26 pm

    My ex partner now lives with his new gf and due to get marriage this year and he’s dropped his hours to minimum to get out of paying much maintance they did the calculation and the day after receiving the paperwork he dropped his hours to pay less he now pays £40 a month and his new wife to b has up her hours so they aren’t losing out, makes me mad csa won’t take into consideration there joint income once they are married, can’t believe the lengths some people go to avoid paying for their child.

  33. paul on February 4th, 2013 11:45 am

    i am divorced from my wife 2 years ago & im now living with my partner & although i claim jsa she works 25 hours per week can my ex wife get csa to take payments from my partner

  34. Lou Jennings on February 4th, 2013 1:09 pm

    I want to get CSA from my ex but my new partner works he is self employed will they want all his earnings info as well as my ex partners only i don’t want to not be able to claim from my ex because my new partner earns too much. Please help xx

  35. lisa on February 13th, 2013 4:13 pm

    The CSA are not allowed by law to take NRPP earnings into account, nor are they allowed to take into account tax credits or child benefit either,

  36. Dave on February 14th, 2013 2:18 pm

    Few short answers required please,I have read all post above and im somewhat lost.

    1) My claim was only made against me in 2012, and I pay for my daughter no problems what so ever, I have met a new partner and she is going to move in with me, she has no kids and earns 15k a year. Can PWC take her wage into consideration?

    2) If i have a child with my new partner can PWC take my new partners wage into consideraton?


  37. Sally on February 14th, 2013 3:43 pm

    Hi Dave

    1) No the CSA do not take your partners earnings into consideration at all (i’m in the same position and for 3 years my income has never been included in child maintenance calculations).

    2) This is where im not so sure as I have read conflicting stories… I believe ctc and wtc may be/can be taken into accountbut your partners salary cannot – I’m not 100% sure to be honest, I have found the citizens advice bureau quite helpful…

  38. Dave on February 14th, 2013 3:54 pm

    @Sally, Cheers to be fair I dont think we will even be able to have wtc or ctc as i earn £37k and she earns 18k

  39. Sally on February 14th, 2013 4:06 pm

    In that case it should just be your salary that they use for the calculation… Have you used the calculator on this website to see how much the CSA say you should pay?

    My partners ex was wrongly ‘advised’ by an idiot from the CSA that my salary would be included in the calculations (we got together at the begining of 2010, 7 years AFTER the rules changed) and his ex made our lives hell trying to get it… I earn a good salary and she would have got an extra £400 each month if the old rule still applied…. :-/

    good luck and I hope someone gives you the facts around your questions 2… :-)

  40. lisa on February 14th, 2013 4:32 pm

    Hi dave, your partners income cannot be touched by law, yes the CSA will ask for them, you are not legally bound to provide them with any info apart from what you earn, if you get worknig tax credits and it shows on your wage slip that will also be used for calculation, dont tell them any other income otherwise you will end up worse off and your ex laughing because she has screwed you,

  41. lisa on February 14th, 2013 4:34 pm

    Sorry forgot to add, if child tax credits are paid into your partners account they cannot be touched by law, i was told this on the phone the other day by CSA, they cannot take CTC from one child and give to another,

  42. melv stewart on February 21st, 2013 6:33 pm

    CSA incouraged me to pay the ex direct in her hand,the last time i went round she destroyed my car,so i get others to drop off the money,when she has a bad day she gets on the phone to the CSA and tells them i havent paid,now on her say the CSA want to take me to court,they have no proof i havent paid,but this seems to be relevant,ive told them i want to call her as a witness to stand in court and say i havent paid,but CSA say this will not happen,and i will loose the case.
    Anyone have advice please

  43. claire on February 25th, 2013 4:23 pm

    can anyone help me CSA payment i have four children and my new partner has two children which he pays for, i receiver csa off my ex husband for my children, but my new partner ex wife wants to know my income and my tax credits and working tax credit information if he moves in with me, i work really hard to support my children she has never worked a day in her life and is due to be getting married in april this year is it right for her to know what i take home and can she take money that i earn worried if thats the case i will not move my partner in as i dont want me kids to suffer can anyone help me please

  44. zss on March 9th, 2013 9:57 am

    hi there.
    i was in the same rut as all of you guys..well kind of.
    my partner broke up from his wife 12 years ago.
    they had 3 children together.
    he then had a one night stand and the girl got pregnant but she told him it wasnt his so he feared nothing. his other 3 kids from his marriage were very well looked after.
    i had my son in 2005 from a previous relationship and carried on a single mum.i get 75p a week because my ex is on jobseekers and now has several children running around.

    i met my partner in 2007 and we had a baby by 2008. 10days after my daughter was born he was asked to do a dna test for the child who he thought wasnt his.the childs mother waited 6 years to do this even though she said it wasnt his.
    he was asked to pay £133 a month.
    his ex wife gets jealous that the one night stand gets money as opposed to EVERYHTING his other kids want and decideds she now wants to file for csa. they had EVERYTHING they could possibly want or need.new consoles…EACH and new phones EACH every christmjas and birthday. they were spoilt rotten but they all decided they’d rather have the money.
    this left us in a sticky situation. my kids were surviving on 11p noodles from sainsburys and my partner and i had any leftovers.but the csa didnt care. they just wanted to make sure that they got the money. in the meantime we faced losing our home because my partner had a nervous breakdown and lost his job as well as having heart problems.
    i had top leave my job because he was in such a state.we now only pay £5 a week between the four children,
    i contacted csa and asked if i work will it affect how much they get. their answer was “if i work it doesnt affect my wages but it will affect his household income which will then be taken into account and re-calculated to see how much csa he should be paying out” (so basically. my income IS affected.

    i then tried something else to see what they said.,

    i rang them again and said…
    my ex pays me 75p csa but he is living with a new girlfriend who is on a great wage.will i get more because they are now an item and living together and plus he lives the life of riley whilst i get 75p a week.
    their answer was ” no, you cant get anything from her income because its none of her business. he pays for his child and it depends on his personal income.she has nothing to do with it. the agreement is between me and him and nobody else”

    this is so frustrating because the csa dont make it easy. they screwed themselves over.by being so greedy in the first place and getting £133 a month, they now get £5 a week because they dont know their arses from their elbows. maybe somebody else can try our tactics and see what response you got.
    please share what answers you were given so it lets us in the loop.
    im desperate to work again but there is no way in hell im going to if it means my own children starve because i’ll be paying to feed someone elses.

  45. carol on March 9th, 2013 11:24 am

    See this is exactly it..the golden goose syndrome. They keep getting them golden eggs (extorionate unfair payment), but get greedy so kill the goose (simply cannot afford to work and pay living costs)…no more golden eggs (end up unemployed paying £5 a week which is ridiculous because it is not supporting our children and not helping the welfare deficit either) .

    This is not a ploy…it really happens. I dont know how as a single woman nrp manage to pay rent and living costs that come to 1100 a month, which a wage in my vocation as a carer would cover. But then the CSA whittle that down to leaving me with 800 a month if they decide to play nice and not spring arrears on me. Why should I work full time to be in debt 300 EVERY month, to end up not being able to run a car to get to my patients. When I start my job, i will be paid weekly, so the minute I run out of funds in order to get to work (ie one week) the next week, the csa will be getting notification of restarting on jobseekers, and will be making damned sure they know exactly why…their own flawed system.

    I did contact my ex to arrange to make payments to him direct, privately, so it would at least be better that £5 a week, more like £20 to £25 depending on hours worked…..but guess what….he outright ignored me. This isnt about money for him, entirely, he just doesnt want me to move on with my life, and rather see me suffer financially than put any regular money to OUR (not just his) child that would benefit our childs life in some way.

    I would have thought the government in their greed would see the financial fallout from this a ,long time ago, and start taking NRPs living costs into consideration so that ok, they may get lower payments, but overall it would keep nrps in work. Maybe they have same mentality of my ex where its not about the little children, or even the money, but some sick twisted kick in screwing people over and feeding off the misery…..

  46. wilf on March 9th, 2013 12:28 pm

    zss:- Sounds as though your partner is on CS1 where a partner’s income is used to determine household income and thus the amount a household can afford but your income will not be used to work out the liability only your partner’s income is used for that.
    So they will take it into account but probably will make no difference.

    When you made your second enquiry as a possible PWC you were informed about the CS2 system which would be a flat percentage of the NRP’s income with no need for the NRP’s partner’s income to be included. On CS2 they do not work out an affordable amount as many NRP’s will tell you.

  47. zss on March 9th, 2013 2:39 pm

    thanks for your input.
    its so frsutrating.ive worked since i was 12 years old and my partner since he was 14. we’ve both paid into the system. worked hard and bought a standard 2 up 2 down house with a small garden in an area we could afford. not our first choice but its a place where we could raise the children.
    we’re now in shit pit facing the risk of losing our home and the payments have to be made out from the date the children were bornincluding the child who was a one night stand who no1 knew about except the selfish mother who didnt do a dna sooner.
    she doesnt let him see the child but shes quick enough to take payment.
    the other 3 from his marriage had everything and their mum would send them here in old holey battered shoes because she knew we wouldnt let them walk around like that and it all seems like take take take.
    as for the mother of the 1 child alone. shes just gone and got herself a fancy new 11plate car whilst we’re struggling to make ends meet.
    its so cruel and so unfair that my children are hungry and yet the csa dont care about the greed.
    they dont take anything into account. all they care about is that the other children get what they are entitled to but what about the welfare of my own children.

  48. phil on March 10th, 2013 3:58 pm

    i am thinking of becoming a stay at home dad and my partner going out to work as she can earn more money than me and am currently paying 200 a month to csa,could they take money for my other child from my current partners wages as i wont get any as staying at home .

  49. zss on March 12th, 2013 1:08 pm

    hi phil.
    this is the current issue we are facing.
    ive been told they wont take her wages to make your csa payments HOWEVER they will take your household income into account. therefore you will have a half decent income and therefore it should go to the csa

  50. zss on March 12th, 2013 1:10 pm

    i also came across this website so hope it helps someone else. im going to give them a try:

  51. Emma on March 12th, 2013 7:54 pm

    Hi I am really at my wits end with the csa and my partners ex wife being such an evil woman!!

    My question is my partner has 2 children to his ex which he pays csa for, one is 9 and other is 11. She made him pay csa from when the oldest was born so that claim started in 2001 and the other was born 2003 so the next claim was made from then. We are desperate to live together (been with him since 2007) but we are scared to because i earn twice as much money as him nearly and we dont want my wage to be taken into consideration as he will have to pay more money (we already struggle as it is trying to pay debts back that we both have) so there isnt much disposable between us as it is. Does anyone know because we are only just moving into together will they still want to know my income and what legal rights do i have as i am not prepared to disclose my salary to them as its none of their business as these kids are not mine?? Any advice would be great, thanks

  52. lisa on March 12th, 2013 8:15 pm

    No under CS2 new rules they are not allowed to take partners earnings into account, personally tell the CSA nothing, give them the dads earnings and thats it, they will try to screw you for tax credits, tell them only what you have to, they take from one child and give it to another that already has tax credits so your in excess paying double, it pays being a single mum on benefits and csa these days, makes me so mad, good luck with things

  53. wilf on March 12th, 2013 8:36 pm

    Emma:- If the case is on CS1 and you move in to the same household the CSA will want to know both incomes in order to work out if the household can afford to pay the liability.
    The liability is worked out by subtracting the NRP’s exempt income (personal allowance + housing costs,etc) from his net income to get an assessable income, this is added to the PWC’s assessable income (net income less her exempt income) and split in 2 proportionally to arrive at the NRP’s liability.
    If the liability is greater than the affordable amount then it due.
    If the liability is less than the affordable amount then the affordable amount is due.
    If the NRPP does not wish to reveal their income then an interim assessment will be used which does not consider an affordable amount.
    If the case is on CS2 then the CSA will not need the NRPP’s income.

  54. Cat on March 14th, 2013 5:44 am

    Can someone please help, my husband doesn’t work nor does he received any income from job seekers he has 2 other children with 2 ex partners, I work full time and have 4 children of my own 2 are my husbands 2 from pervious marriage we get child tax credits, I’m currently paying £40 a month for child and £50 a month for the other as the same like most don’t want to see his children go without but I’m only on a low income myself and could do with cutting this down but if mentioned to the ex’s they go mad ” think they forget my husband does not work and its me paying” so was thinking about contacting csa to see what my husband should really be paying? But what I want to no is do they take child tax credits as his income? As don’t see why my children should go without as its for them not the other children when there mums already get this themselves!!!!!!

  55. Terry on March 22nd, 2013 10:48 am

    If I pay $753 per month to support my children, am I also obliged to pay any more money out ?

    Appreciate any answers.

  56. Lizzy on April 15th, 2013 9:16 am

    my partner and i want to get married, if we get married will the CSA take my wage into consideration so my partner will end up paying more to his ex wife.
    also was wondering if any inheritance that i get have any effect on my partners payment? They got divorced years before we got together

  57. wilf on April 15th, 2013 2:09 pm

    Lizzy:- Depends whether the case was started before or after 2003.

  58. flange on April 15th, 2013 4:16 pm

    Can anyone please help… My partner who is not allowed to see his child has just got a letter from the csa asking him to pay £230 per month… He only works 20 hours and gets a miserable £508 a month.. I have read all the comments above but am still confused.. We are not married andI have an autistic son.. Can the csa include my wage and my sons DLA and work/child credits.. Thank you

  59. Talli Mcallister on May 8th, 2013 5:51 pm

    Hi all,

    Wonder if you could help please. My Husband started paying CSA to his ex wife in 2011. He will shortly be made redundant from the Army, and will become a stay at home Dad to our baby (which is on the way) when I go back to work full time. He will therfore not be earning any monies, and I will earn around £1,900 a month. Will we still need to pay CSA for his children with his ex wife (who incidently he doesn’t see and has a hearing date at the end of the month for an acces order).
    My understanding is that as this is post 2003 my earning will not be taken into account, and as my husband will not be earning there will be no CSA to pay.


  60. Victoria Cooper on May 10th, 2013 1:12 pm

    My partner has 2 children with 2 exes! He has been paying double what he should for the past year in a private agreement with the pair of them but it has crippled us as we are also paying for the 3 children in our household (2 mine 1 ‘ours’) We have decided to go through Csa because we are broke but I’m now finding out that they can take the child tax credits which I receive for MY 3 children (which the government says I should receive!!!) and share it with his 2 other kids who already receive CTC!!! How is this fair??! We have no argument in paying a percentage of his wage or even off his wtc but I thought that the ctc money was for my kids???! He’s not even allowed contact with the kids because they don’t ‘like’ the fact he’s a relationship with me!!! This just all seems like a bad joke :(

  61. Fee on May 16th, 2013 5:11 pm

    My partner has a 7 year old daughter and we have a 2 year old daughter together.

    His ex was taking money from him for years and recently called csa saying shes never had anything from him.

    He is now paying £160 a month when we struggle enough does this money to straight to her? How is this fair when shes never worked a day in her life.

  62. mia on May 19th, 2013 8:18 pm

    my hubby of 7 years has always paid for his 4 kids even though he worked 60 hours a month to cover csa and mortgage of nearly £700 per month the day he got paid the day he money went straight out , it was crippling us , I am a carer and have my 23 year old daughter living with us and 2 of our own , I am allowed to earn a little without if affecting my carers allowance I was getting up at 4.30am cleaning offices mon-fri to keep our heads above water , my mum was turning up with bags of food, I quit smoking 3 years ago , don’t drink and even dye my own hair as I couldn’t afford the luxury of a hairdresser, I used to ring up crying to the csa as we had no money ,we were getting more into a mess maxed out on credit cards and got into a real mess , almost had a breakdown , the worst thing was his ex rang him before xmas saying I don’t need your money but I like seeing you poor , I was livid ,like kicking us when we were down , slagging us off to his kids that we didn’t get to see them very often it wasn’t that , we couldn’t afford to feed them , we did picnics in the summer , anyway csa decided that we owed arrears of £1500 don’t know how or why as never missed a payment . I had a fall in January in the black ice and im awaiting surgery on ankle and shoulder whilst having physio and had to give up my cleaning job . then in February my husband lost his job , and straight away it was like a relief as no more struggling for mortgage, csa , council tax was paid , I could have my inhalers and we both had fillings that we were in pain with but couldn’t afford to have done before , kids get free school dinners , help with uniform , free trips and after school clubs . my hubby has got to know his little ones as the hours he was working and coming in at 10.30pm he wasn’t seeing them . we have to pay £5 a week and have already been told unless he pays the arrears each month the minute he gets a job they will put an attatchment on his wages. we have both paid into our system as we are in our 40s and have worked from school , he does want to get back into work again but I think im going to go and work full time and he will take over as my daughters carer if that’s the only way we can survive so be it , the csa has nearly cost me my marriage so many times , I have a friend who has one son her ex pays her £260 a month she already says she doesn’t need it , mad needs to be assessed on living expenses not percentages , rant over.

  63. Nikki on June 7th, 2013 10:01 pm

    Why people think your ex partners new partners should be paying for your kids out of their hard earned salaries is beyond me.
    My partner has 2 children with his ex and 2 children with me. We have worked all our working lives and she has never done a days work in her life. My benefits pay for my childminding fees each week (and even the benefits dont cover all of the fees). So why on this earth should I pay for your kids when I’ve got 2 to pay for of my own, buy all your kids clothes because your claiming poverty AND all this why you sit on your arse all day and do sweet FA with your life??? It makes me sick!!!

  64. mrs cinders on June 11th, 2013 8:15 pm

    hi please can someone tell me if my husband is a carer for my son from a previous relationship and i have a daughter whos not my husbands either and we were on income support as i was claiming for my husband and csa were taking money from that for his 2 children from his first marriage but now im about to start work an be the sole earner we get child tax credits but do i have to pay csa for his children as they are my step children we have been together since 2009 and thats when csa started taking money from my husbands wages and now income support i dont want to start work if i have to pay for his children surely thats between the 2 parents only .

  65. marybeth on June 17th, 2013 10:29 am


    can my ex husband claim CSA maintenance from me? my son lives with his dad 5 days out of 7 and my ex earns a £1000 more a month than me

  66. Charlie on June 17th, 2013 11:34 am

    My partner has 3 children by his ex wife who he doesn’t see for the past 7 years,we have 3 children together and he’s self employed how can they work out how much he needs to pay? As at the moment the taking legal action against him as he owes £15,000 arreas. And they only leave him with £990 a month to live on and to support us as a family,rent etc? Why should he have to pay when she got the house,bank accounts,car etc he only left with the clothes on his back. Plus she doesn’t work either. Please help xx

  67. ian humphries on June 20th, 2013 6:49 pm

    my partner currently pays for 2 children out her income support . We are going into a joint jsa claim will we have to pay still ??????

  68. Julie on June 22nd, 2013 7:38 pm

    My Ex-Partner made a CSA claim last year for our daughter which I pay happily. I don’t work at the moment, I have a daughter with my current partner, but we live seperatly at the moment. We are thinking it’s time me and our daughter moved into his house. I am a bit worried though as, like I said I don’t work at the minute but my partner’s Net annual income is pretty high, so worried he is told he has to pay. I’m confused about all this works so any advice would be greatly appreciated.

  69. Anthony H on June 25th, 2013 6:48 pm

    Just a quick question, I have a house I can’t afford to live in anymore the mortgage is £1,500 and my salary is £1,700. needles to say if I sell the house I’ll never be able to afford to buy another one so I’ve rented it out and make up the short fall with my wages. I have moved in with my new partner and she is basically subsidising my life she has a child or her own… where do I stand with the CSA… I was out of work for approx. two years and only been working now for about 15 months they have contacted me to verify that I’m now employed and they are going to investigate my circumstances… what should I expect to happen….

  70. Gail Wilson on July 1st, 2013 2:31 pm

    Can anyone help, after 10 years I have requested a review, I have 3 children aged under 16 and have received under £200 per month, my ex husband earns approx. 40k. I have received info that his payments should double but a different department now want my wage details, mortgage details, life insurance I pay and council tax details. Will may earnings be taken in to consideration to reduce the amount he pays?

  71. Rob on July 9th, 2013 11:05 am

    Ive heard a rumour that as my ex wife has started full time employment my CSA payments might reduce? can anyone shed any light on this?

    Many Thanks

  72. Michael - CSAhell.com staff on July 9th, 2013 12:51 pm

    Sorry Rob, but that’s untrue. Your ex-wife could win the lottery or get a job as the Prime Minister and your CSA payments wouldn’t be affected. She could marry Richard Branson and you still have to pay the same.

    CSA payments aren’t means tested so a PWC will get the same for their child no matter their own personal wealth or poverty.

    Of course, if your ex-wife tells the CSA she doesn’t need the money from them now she has a new job and cancels the case, then your payments would stop – but how likely is that?

  73. elli on July 10th, 2013 10:09 pm

    The CSA has not been of any help to me. My ex has not paid a penny since we split up. In fact he has taken all our savings and all our assets leaving me and kids with nothing. I have struggled to feed them or pay the household bills. His new partner had the benefit of our hard earned money and yes before anyone asked i have worked all my life. She is now being treated to holidays nights out expensive gifts all financed by our money.
    The now have moved together and all of a sudden he claims he has no income anymore ( easy when you are the md that cooks your own books )
    I wish the csa could take her earnings into account because he benefits of all my money living the life of riley while my kids starve. Joke this system !!!!

  74. Millie on July 23rd, 2013 3:25 pm

    My partner is just going through the CSA process, he is the paying parent! However I have been signed off ill and on basic statuary sick pay long term. Will the CSA take this into account?

  75. Alan on August 2nd, 2013 4:30 am

    Hi, what an awesome site.

    Ok i need some help too here.

    I am disabled and only pay £5 per week out of my benefit straight to my ex who has my 18 yr old son who is at colledge doing a plumbing course.
    He will be 19 in March 2014, does the CSA stop when he’s 19?

    Also i have an inheritance of 57K coming soon, can they take that too??

    Any help would be much appreciated, thank you.

  76. Kate on August 7th, 2013 5:27 pm


    I have recently moved in with my partner (his two children live with us 80% of the time as ex not capable). He only earns around 9k per year and so he was in receipt of tax credits and CHB. When i moved in tax credits stopped for him due to my income. Therefore I had to take on contributing considerable amount towards his children based on tax credits using household income.

    His ex in the meantime has married her new partner (they have no kids). CSA only considers her income and payment has now reduced from £190 to £68 per month as she has chosen to work part time as new husband earns very well. Therefore more contribution from me to top up as the ex refuses to pay for anything for the kids, my partner doesn’t have the money but still school uniforms, school trips, life costs needed…

    It seems crazy that the only one in this equation that has to stump up any money for the kids is me and they are not even my kids. Are we doing somehting wrong here and missing something.

    Thank you

  77. Marty on August 8th, 2013 10:50 pm

    I’m paying £330 a month for my ten yr old son who lives with his mother in my former home. The CSA payments are deducted direct from my salary as I am in the military.
    My question is when I leave the forces in five years time will the payments be taken from my military pension?
    Also will my payments reduce significantly if I have a child with my new girlfriend?
    Thanks in advance.

  78. Sandi on August 13th, 2013 10:22 pm

    I am confused what I can do to get support for my children from my soon to be ex.

    He was self employed. Now says his company is insolvent. Has no income due to the company not operating. Lives with his girlfriend and her 2 children and lives a very nice comfortable lifestyle (6 holidays this year so far, south africa, skiing, italy…) They are members of a health club, etc etc… while I am struggling to put food on the table and pay the bills.

    Is there anything I can do?

    I cannot reason with him.

    I work part-time and although I have retrained to try to get a full time job, I have not bee succesful yet.

    Thanks for any help given.

  79. Sandi on August 13th, 2013 10:37 pm

    p.s. Forgot to mention she is a high earner, also self employed. He has assets coming to him from our “pot”, whilst I have the home and no assets.

    I feel that I cannot afford to waste money on lawyers to advise or chase him up on this, as I suspect that I cannot prove he is being deceitful and they are playing some sort of tricks with money through her accounts.


  80. Mandy on August 16th, 2013 10:56 pm

    My husband has 2 children from previous and has paid on the dot through these muppets AKA Csa, every month for the last 11 yrs, he has recently had a promotion which the ex could not wait to inform Csa! They are now saying his payments are to increase from by £25 a week, although I have 2 children and we have a 2 ur old together, we have had to buy a bigger house to accommodate his children our outgoings have tripled yet because we work hard and claim no benefits we are an easy target! If we do not pay they say they will do a deduction of earnings! How can they suddenly say that an extra £100 a month is needed for these children when it’s quite obvious that its to fund the greedy mothers life style!
    This country and there unfair systems make me sick we are better off on the dole…you work hard and get sod all….can this be right?!?

  81. Mandy on August 16th, 2013 11:01 pm

    Oh forgot to mention that she has since re-married he is a high earner and she works from home, they have also today bought a nice big 4 bed property while they rent out my Husbands ex marital home that he gave her. There is no mortgage on it and its up for rent for £950 a month…..how is this fair?
    Taking money from one child to freed another what a discraceful society we live in!!!

  82. paul on August 22nd, 2013 10:35 am

    i have 2 kids with ex wife.been paying 5 pounds week through jobseekers.now stopped claiming as my new partner wkin full time.she has two kids and i live with them and we have a 7month baby between us both.as i dont recieve any benifits or other income will csa take any of my new partners income, thanks

  83. tracey on August 28th, 2013 10:46 pm

    hello ex partner hasn’t seen his son for the last 4 and a half years he gave up work to be stay at home dad so he didn’t have to pay for his son and his now wife work instead what can i do is there any way of getting csa. thanks

  84. ian w on September 7th, 2013 8:18 am

    I divorced in 2006. I have 2 children 17 & 16 who live with their mother. Divorce settlement stated csa guidelines to be used until they finish tertionary education. So nothing set up with csa just me paying her directly. She gets all the child ben and child tax credits.

    Last weekend she remarried. He works. I am going to be moving in with my partner very soon. My income is 50k. My new partner earns 8k and gets housing ben, work tax credits, child tax credits and child ben for her own 2 children that get no support at all from their father. Because of my income all her benefits will stop apart from child ben as my income is high. Thats fine. But my income will need to pay for the massive reduction in her ‘income’.

    So, my question, as my children now live with a new ‘daddy’ he can support my children, whilst my income will be required to support my new family. As no official csa arrangement was set up but were told to follow the guidelines as 2006, what can i do? Can i lower my payment to support my new family?

    Thank you for any help, ian

  85. Michael on September 8th, 2013 3:52 pm

    Hi, I have a couple of questions I’m wracking my brain over. I am living with my new partner and am in court battling to see my children. The PWC has made a claim. I do not work and the CSA want to take about £40pm. I don’t understand as I have no income.

    1) Can the CSA take money from me if I don’t earn anything? (I’m now £300 into an overdraft and it’s getting worse every month)

    2) I know my new partners wages are not taken into consideration but are her WTC/CTC? (both our names are on the claim but it goes straight into my new partners account)

    3) If my partner gives me an allowance to do the shopping and keep the house and car with, will that be taken into account?

    4) Lastly, does anything change when my new partner and I get married and/or have a child of our own?

  86. paul on September 11th, 2013 8:54 pm

    if i tell CSA that i am living with a new partner and we have a child will CSA take more money from me.

  87. Ellie Milao on September 12th, 2013 2:09 am

    My husband pays for his child to his ex.. When CSA sent the form to him in 2011 I had to provide my details of my income and also my child tax credits. I think this is outrageous as he is not my son. His ex refuses to let my husband have contact and as so far broken 2 contacct court orders. What gets me really mad though is the fact that the CSA are in effect penalizing my son by taking into account his child tax credits and now my new born daughter. His ex receives her own child tax credits for her son and gets a portion is my sons and daughter, hardly fair if you ask me. I think its totally scandalous that CSA are allowed to take into account any money I receive for mine and my husbands children.

  88. Fran on September 18th, 2013 9:21 pm

    Can anyone please help me with this.

    My children do not live with me they live with their father, so I guess that makes me the NRP. My new partner wishes to move in with me so we may live together. I am unable to work, he wishes to care and provide for me. He has children that do not live with him, for who he provides. If we live together will the CSA require him to provide for my children as well as for me? I couldn’t ask him to do that.

    I’m confused with the whole issue, but i’m sure i’m not alone on this.

    Many Thanks

    Fran x

  89. Sally on September 19th, 2013 11:06 am

    Hi Fran, if your CSA case was open before 2003 (CSA 1) your partners income will be taken into account, if it was opened after 2003 his income will not be taken into account.

    Hope this helps..

  90. Fran on October 2nd, 2013 5:48 pm

    I left my husband last year. Our son remained with his father. I do not work, or claim benefits but agreed to pay half the mortgage each month and match the child benefit. The ex now informs me, he is moving on to JSA (after being sick for 10 years!!!) and that there are questions on the on-line application, about maintenance…… I assume he is threatening me that the CSA will want to assess me…… my new partner works – if the CSA DO become involved, can someone please reassure me, that they won’t look at my partners’ income???? That they will see I am making payments and leave me alone????

  91. Numbnut on October 9th, 2013 8:28 pm

    Mine is a simple question……
    I live with my boyfriend – we both work
    His ex lives with his 2 kids, 15 & 18. We don’t see them and there has only be 1 overnight stay in the last 7 years……
    My boyfriend pays an amount of money each month (the correct CSA level) and also helps both kids out financially by paying into their bank accounts.

    Although my boyfriend works, his wages have dropped, so he wanted to reduce the amount due to his son now being 18. The ex has now said that if my boyfriend doesn’t pay a certain level, my wages can be taken into account too……
    Is this legal and true…..I’ve seen mixed messages on the internet and thought you guys might know the answer.


  92. Sally on October 10th, 2013 7:25 am

    Hi numbnut… If your partner and his ex have a CSA case open before 2003 then your wages will be taken into account. If they had a privat arrangement with NO involvement from the CSA then your wages will not be taken into account as it’s a new assessment.

    If you look at the calculator on this website you will find out how much he should pay based on his reduced salary.

    Child benefit is now payable until the ‘child’ is 20 ( absolutely ridiculous, I know!!!) if the child is still in education or works less than 12 hours a week… This criteria still confuses me so someone else may be able to give you more detailed guidance…

    The CSA is useless and not helpful to NRPs (I’m in the same situation as you, I’m an NRPP)….

  93. Twinkletamba on October 10th, 2013 11:03 am

    I agree that partners income of NRP shouldnt be taken into account when working out maintenance – but if thats the case the partners children from a previous relationship shouldnt be taken into account either. My ex earns a decent wage and lives with his partner who earns alot more – her income isnt taken into account but she has one child who is worth more to him moneywise according to the CSA than his own.Yet this childs own Mother and Father ate already both supporting him financially and my ex too although he cant support his own child!
    To make it fair – if the new partners income is taken into acxpunt

  94. Twinkletamba on October 10th, 2013 11:04 am

    I agree that partners income of NRP shouldnt be taken into account when working out maintenance – but if thats the case the partners children from a previous relationship shouldnt be taken into account either. My ex earns a decent wage and lives with his partner who earns alot more – her income isnt taken into account but she has one child who is worth more to him moneywise according to the CSA than his own.Yet this childs own Mother and Father ate already both supporting him financially and my ex too although he cant support his own child!
    To make it fair – if the new partners income is taken into acxpunt include then by all means include the child(ren) in the assessment too. But if not taking into account partners income only resident childrensharing the fathers or mothers bloodlines should be included?

  95. Sally on October 10th, 2013 10:19 pm

    @ Twinkletamba… The whole CSA system is unfair and wrong… Both parents income and expenditure should be included when assessing child maintenance. This includes what the the PWC receives as subsidies I.e child tax credit, working tax credit, child benefit… So TOTAL income of both parents are included….

    It should be both or no new partners incomes that are included in the assessment, it’s unfair to include the NRPs partner but not the PWCs partner and finally the CSA calculation should NOT take from one child to give to another via child tax credits from new families….. The children are the pawns/victims in all of this… And the CSA are abusing those pawns/victims and use the parent emotions to do so….

    Both mum and dad should pay fairly and equally but the CSA encourage PWCs to use them by promising them more money… It’s al wrong…. :(

  96. Wayne on October 14th, 2013 9:17 pm

    Can I please check that I’ve understood correctly…
    I am NRP, Csa case was raised in sept 2012 I’m working and not receiving any tax credits and have no arrears with CSA. If my partner moves in with me I am under no obligation to divulge her income information to the CSA as I’m on a CS2 agreement?

    Fantastic site, thanks in advance

  97. taroct on October 20th, 2013 1:46 pm

    If my new partner moves in do I need to déclaré this to csa and will his earnings be taken into consideration? Could this impact on csa payments from my childs dad?

  98. confused by CSA on October 21st, 2013 1:19 pm

    My partner has asked me to marry him, it is very sad but before I give him my answer I would like to know how this might affect his CSA payments. If he sells his house and moves into mine? I earn more than he does my children are grown up although one at uni. we won’t have children together. Ideally we would like to buy another home to let out and happily pay a percentage of the income for maintenance but I have read somewhere that his ex partner can claim 15% of anything over £65k. if he sells his house this would make buying another house to expensive. Also if we both inherit from our parents can this be claimed as well? My health is not good so I am always unsure how long I can go on working for hence not wanting another mortgage. Anyone out there can help me?

  99. confused by CSA on October 21st, 2013 1:28 pm

    Oh just to add his house is in a poor state and needs so much spending on it that we can’t just rent that out. My partner does have contact although it is very much dependant on how his partner feels. We have been to court twice now and both times have a contact order in his favour which she will not honour. I have never met his son (7years old) but really looking forward to a time when I can. His ex partner is the sort of person that lies and will try everything to get what she can this is why I am hesitating. She does not know about me although they split up long before I met him he is still worried about what she will do when she finds out.

  100. stacey on October 25th, 2013 7:55 pm

    Hi my ex has just got a big sum of money from compensation, i recieve csa from him for our 20 month old son that he doesnt see, if i inform csa of his comp am i entitled to any of it for my son, im a single parent n struggle but yet him and his new gf are expecting another child y shu tht child get everything n mine gets nothing please help

  101. gary on November 10th, 2013 1:59 pm

    do i have to pay my partners ex csa. am work with minimam wage my partner doesend work she has got 3 kids with him 2 that stay with him and one that stays with us as well as my own one

  102. matt on November 12th, 2013 1:35 pm

    i have split up from my wife and have paid child maintance my point is we all move on and by ‘screwing’ me for it when i am trying to move on with my life and new partner is wrong she has my kids, I have to work to live she gets full benifits live with no worries with her new partner while i have to scrimp and save to get by! it should be done over what you can afford not 15% etc… i feel for dads/mums who have had this burdon on them i think MY money that i EARN should be spent on them how i see fit , my kids are always dressed dirty and it upsets me to see them in too short cloths and filthy whuile she has 3 horses that are spotless!
    my point is rather than trying to ‘DO’ your ex over try to understand it from there point

  103. Michael on November 19th, 2013 12:56 am

    Hi, I have a couple of questions I’m wracking my brain over. I am living with my new partner and am in court battling to see my children. The PWC has made a claim. I do not work and the CSA want to take about £40pm. I don’t understand as I have no income.
    1) Can the CSA take money from me if I don’t earn anything? (I’m now £300 into an overdraft and it’s getting worse every month)
    2) I know my new partners wages are not taken into consideration but are her WTC/CTC? (both our names are on the claim but it goes straight into my new partners account)
    3) If my partner gives me an allowance to do the shopping and keep the house and car with, will that be taken into account?
    4) Lastly, does anything change when my new partner and I get married and/or have a child of our own?

  104. Mike on November 19th, 2013 11:26 am

    I am an NRP living with my fiancee for 8 years. My CSA case goes back to 2001.
    I was made redundant 3 years ago and struggled to find work since. So it was decided between my fiancee and I that I would study to gain the current knowledge and experience. i.e. no income. We haven’t claimed any benefits. My fiancee earns royalties from writing work in Europe and has a recent inheritance in The Netherlands that supports us whilst I get back to work.

    My fiancee is a Dutch national, holds Dutch residency and all royalties come from NL. The CSA called today stating they they need her income details. She refuses, even I don’t know all her financial details and nor do I want to.

    Thre CSA stated that is is legislation for them to ask for it. Does my fiancee have to provide details? The CSA refuse to write to her directly.

    If I don’t find work, then I will be a stay at home Dad to our new 3 month old daughter and my fiancee will pursue work in mainland Europe.

    Help please?

  105. Helena on January 25th, 2014 7:00 am

    Hi I’m a parent of 2 boys 17 & 15 they both live with there dad he has recently after 9 years taken me to csa for £300 but the money is going into his account and not giving my boys no money is this right ?? As i feel I’m working to pay for him and not my kids please help :(

  106. mo on January 26th, 2014 10:59 pm

    My husband and I r going through a divorce.we have been seperated for 2 years now.he has not paid any child maintenance so told him to take him to the csa.he said of I do he will take me instead… is this possible. I have 2 children.he is selfeemployed and said i won’t b able to get any off him as he juzt tell csa he doesn’t earn much. I know he is not giving real figures to Hm revenue as a lot of jobs get done cash in hand…..will I get any csa and can he claim it on me…..

  107. monique on February 2nd, 2014 9:08 am

    my husband has 2 children with weekly access to them both and he pays around 200 a month csa to his kids. my childs tax credits is taken into consideration and we dont get help with any bills and dont qualify for working tax credits. i have 3 children and were struggling with bills so i want to get a job too but will i be liable for maintenance as well from my wages ? help is needed

  108. Sam on February 16th, 2014 10:48 pm

    I’ve been married now for 8 years, and all of a sudden his ex wife has popped up, now I knew he had kids and made it clear from day one I’m not paying for something which isn’t mine, simples. Now CSM are involved and now want £225 pm , his child is 16 and still in school till June, what happens then ? Does he still pay ?
    Also I think I’m right in saying the CSM do not take my wages into account ? Because I’m certainly not giving any details on that one, also we rent this house we are in no info has been given to the CSM , so what bills do they take into account ? Need info as can’t ask anyone else. Thank you

  109. Josy on March 4th, 2014 12:23 am

    My ex husband (self employed, declares he earns pittance, but pays mortgage , holidays new cars etc etc out of business so not declared as earnings to c.s.a.) has paid bare minimum for his 3 children for the last 10 years, the eldest son has just turned 18 but is still in full time college, however he has stooped paying, how can I get him to keep paying and will he need to backdate it ?

  110. Michelle on March 22nd, 2014 10:23 pm

    I have 3 kids and there dad is a waste if space, we made an agreement that he would pay 300 a month but without fail every other month he would give me an excuse that he couldn afford it. So I went to the csa and they said he should b payin 320 a month plus arrears with takes it to 400 a month. I work full time and provide everythink for the kids 2 being teenagers and a 10 year old these can be very expensive as they want wat ever the friends have, I try my best work full time to do as much as I can and get them wat I can, with the 320 a month like he pays this give the kids less then 30 a wk which I give to them as it’s there money but my ex complains every time that he pays to much. I’m disgusted as if it was me paying for the kids I would do it without moaning as I would want them to have the best but he dose not. However he is having 2 holidays this yr, I am struggling to get a holiday for me and the kids but he just swans off I’m so angry and disgusted that they can expect them to live with wat he pays. Yes I work full time but I don’t have a whole house to run on my own bills and I hsve to run a car to get the kids to school. I hate the fact he is living a good life he dose not bother with vists and he dose not have the kids or even but them any birthday presents. My question after my rant (sorry) is can I make they re calculated or force him to pay more as it’s clear he can afford more and he didn’t pay a penny for many years as I felt sorry for him and let him off.

  111. Sally on May 23rd, 2014 10:35 pm

    Hi – lots of interesting info here – my questions are :-
    1… I am NRP and pay every month direct to my ex-husband – my children are 17 and 16 – Am I correct in understanding that I have to pay CSA until they are 20yrs old ( if they are at Uni or they work more than 12 hours a week), ?? also ….
    2. I am planning to re-marry – will my new husbands income be taken into account – we will be selling his house and he will be moving into mine.?? hope someone can help / advise many thanks

  112. Sally on May 23rd, 2014 10:44 pm

    and another question – sorry – when my children leave home to go to Uni – can I pay them the CSA money direct ??

  113. sarah on July 25th, 2014 8:20 am

    Why are the questions no longer getting answered?
    I really need to know if I marry my partner will my assets be taken into account for maintenance payments.(order made in 2010) N.Ireland

  114. Bill on July 27th, 2014 12:12 pm

    CSA have not looked a partner’s income since CS2 started in 2003.
    Only those people still on CS1 ( introduced in 1993 ) have to declare a partner’s earnings to determine protected income for assessment calculation purposes.

    When a QC goes to university child maintenance is no longer due.

  115. Twizz on August 23rd, 2014 1:32 pm

    Really looking for some advice please. I am a mother with 2 children aged 20 and 16. My ex husband pays privately for my two so this is all good
    I have remarried (5 years now) just over a year ago his 2 children aged 12 and 8 came to live with us on a permanent basis as their mum didn’t want them anymore basically so we are now a combined family of 6
    My 2 step children’s mum now pays us £80 a month for them both but she has recently moved in with her new rich boyfriend and there are conflicting answers as to if we can claim maintenance through his wages also as she is the non resident parent and her new partners children are grown up adults and moved away

  116. Bill on September 2nd, 2014 11:47 pm

    Twizz- You can only claim against her income her partners is not relevant as they are not his children.

  117. Steve on September 23rd, 2014 5:26 pm

    I pay the Csa for my 3 children and always have. I recently settled down with my fiancé and have now got ourselves a house but Csa payments are proving difficult to pay due to my outgoings. If I rang Csa to explain this would payments go down + would they take my fiances wages into consideration and put them up? Bit confused.com

  118. michael on September 29th, 2014 8:44 am

    need help please,

    I have a five year old son with my ex, payments are going through ok.
    But I am now paying a mortgage and getting married next year with another child on the way. Money is very tight at the moment due to the mortgage and bills.
    question is, will the CSA start taking more money that there will be my partners income as we will be married? and will they take into consideration that I have a mortgage to pay as it is in my name not my partners?

    many thanks

  119. Bill on September 29th, 2014 4:24 pm

    Michael:- As your case opened after 2003 they will not look at a partner’s income or mortgage payments. They will however make an allowance if there is a child resident in your household.

  120. Peta Wilson on October 5th, 2014 4:24 am

    My partner is paying so much maintenance because he works that we can’t afford to put food on the table for my 9 year old child and so I’m for ex to degradingly rely on food vouchers on which I’m told you can only get help with twice and that’s it the system for struggling fathers is all wrong and they don’t give a flying F because it’s a money spinner for the gorilla run government we have

  121. zss on October 17th, 2014 1:10 pm

    hi everyone.
    i’m not sure if this helps but ALL csa payments between now and 2017 will be moved to a complete new system. that system is the child maintenance service (CMS)
    as you will see from my previous posts I have had much difficulty getting an answer like yourselves however after recently making a phone call..everybody should soon be on the same page.
    good news for us wives/ partners of NRP and also the amounts taken are set to be more reasonable. although if you have more than one child it will get more expensive but there is an online calculator to work out how much you will be paying.
    you can ask to switch to the cms straight away before you get letter ( I belive this will work in your favour).
    it will cost the resident parent £20 and for however much you pay them, CMS will take a certain percentage.. yup..they’re still greedy but nevertheless, the payments are more realistic…hopefully causing less suicide rates for the NRP and being able to live realistically. all that being that yes, im sure you’ll probably have to cut down a bit but hopefully because all of the old rules being completely scrapped and new rules are same for everyone, it might make it a bit easier for people to be understood rather than being tossed from pillar to post, losing their jobs, homes, familes.
    ive been keeping up to date for some time now. look forward to your responses, Good luck to all of you NRP and wives/partners
    kind regards,

  122. Holly on October 22nd, 2014 5:08 pm

    Hi my partner has 3 children aged 9, 8 and 6 with his ex girlfriend. They were together for 11 years they split up three years ago and she has contacted the C.S.A saying that my partner owes £7,000 in arrears (this was from a period where he couldn’t afford to pay due to debts and having to pay a morgage on his own. She is on the morgage as joint tennant but has never paid a penny towards it) For the past year my partner has been paying maintenance directly into his ex’s bank which is what they have verbally agreed. I myself am now 9 months pregnant with my partners child and fear that we can not afford to pay back the £7,000 arrears. my partner has asked for a breakdown of the payments from the C.S.A. I am at a loss as to what to do as never been in a situation like this before.

  123. Maria on November 18th, 2014 12:03 pm

    Ok, I’m feeling rather fed up & cannot get my head around the csa’a logic. I have 4 children, all under the age of 18. Their father and I seperated several years back and we have agreed amicably an amount he pays me in child support (he would be paying a lot more if I went to the csa). However, I have since remarried and my husband has a daughter (now aged 18) from a previous marriage. He is not amicable with her mother and subsequently pays for her via csa. What upsets me is that when working out how much he should pay they use my child tax credit, for MY children as part of the income figure! I don’t work so how can they justify taking money for my kids to pay for his? We are paying for one child double what I receive from my ex for all four of mine! The girls mother has also remarried and they live very comfortably with no mortgage and several holidays a year which I feel my kids are basically paying for. I’ve worked out via the csa calculator that if my husband wasn’t with me he would be paying over £100 a month less than what we pay now! I would understand if I was working but I am not and it really gets to me that my kids go without to pay his ex wife.:(

  124. Andy. on November 18th, 2014 10:38 pm

    Hi All.
    Just the usual story of life…With all the hatred out there. I am a father of two…having gone and still not finished my ex partner has decided to call in the CMA. I am not living in the house I moved out due to the environment for the children.
    Having undertaken the cost of paying half the mortgage currently £275.00 and contributing a amount of £240.00 support for the children and this was not a CMA calculation just a amount offered by me to comply? I now have to bear this in mind. Firstly I am still a joint owner of the house and secondly will the CMA still demand any payments or other as back pay whilst I am paying a mortgage and contributing to the financial support as stated before.
    I will say this her father has been the driving force to this end and a friend of mine has commented that your marriage was doomed right from the start of 14 years by the way.

  125. Andy. on November 18th, 2014 10:47 pm

    Apologise I pressed the submitt button.
    All I need to know is can the CMA support such a claim if I am still paying half the mortgage and on this note I have been informed that if I directly speak to the CMA they are approachable and will take this into account until all financial decisions are finalised.
    This is new to me and I will just give you a insight to the types of family I have stupidlgot involved with. 6years ago her so called idiot father sent a letter describing how I was not right for her daughter and other suggestions such as if he had his way he would of changed the locks and all the rest of the crap that can be written. Then recently he writes again also his daughter mx soon to be ex… Basically both are behind the issues raised but it will turn nasty.. Has any one got any advice in my support as at present it seems all is in favour of the ex wife and as for me nothing.. Am I going nuts here.I do still see both girls so no loss but this may change…haha.
    Any ideas,,, please…

  126. Nath on December 6th, 2014 3:50 pm

    speak my Mind!!!!!!!

    Hi i am a Dad, but my Daughter lives with me and has done now for 7 months, what i can’t understand is why i am still paying CSA to my ex wife while she laughs at me every month and the CSA are such a bunch of twats, i have just about had enough of them, why is it so hard to sort out. when i spoke to them for the 22nd time i got the good old classic. Im sorry Sir but the department you need don’t take calls I’m afraid sir. Why that????? Be cause they don’t.

    I could go on all night about the CSA and how rubbish you really are, not once have the CSA asked me if i want to claim CSA, why because I’m a man,

  127. Chris on December 16th, 2014 6:32 pm

    The CMA have disclosed by letter a breakdown of my salary to my wife which I have been separated for the last 2 1/2 years. Are they allowed to do this?

  128. Dineo on January 6th, 2015 10:29 am

    My ex doesn’t pay maintendance and my child is 13 yrs old I don’t. I don’t have his details how do I go about making him pay the maintendance ?

  129. Dineo on January 6th, 2015 10:31 am

    How do I get my ex to pay maintandance for our 13yrs old I don’t his details?

  130. jason on January 16th, 2015 3:11 pm

    I’m looking for a bit of help from ppl if us can! I live with my partner an 3 children in Scotland. I only have 1 child with my current partner the other 2 children are from a previous relationship. I stay at home an care for children while my partner works. What I’m wanting help with is my ex partner,whom is the ‘mother’ of my other 2 children. She as since married an had another child with her husband. However getting finiacial help from those 2 is like pulling teeth! I am wondering if it is worth me going through cms to try and get help to get some kind of maintenance. As far as I am aware my ex doesn’t work but her husband does,but that’s not to say she working on side!I can’t prove that though.do cms take her husbands wages into consideration for payments. All help greatly appreciated.

  131. Ben on January 23rd, 2015 6:04 pm

    Having seen all the above comments could somebody please confirm for me….

    CSA will take into account my partners earnings (NRPP) only if my case was before 2003?

    As my CSA case was way after 2003 then they cannot take into account my new partners earnings.

    I am worried that my payments could increase now that I have remarried. From what I can gather above I should not be worried as my case began after 2003 ???

  132. Andrea on February 12th, 2015 4:59 pm

    My husband is on ESA its a joint claim and currently pays 5pound a week to his ex wife for 1 child, iam thinking of starting work as my husband cant, so if i did he wouldnt have any income. Iam i right in thinking that csa cant take my earnings into account. his case began after 2003

  133. zss on March 1st, 2015 11:16 am

    Ben, under csa1 they can take earnings into account, under csa 2 they cant take earning into account for your partner but they can take any tax credits you may have as it comes under an income.
    has anyone on here joined csahell on facebook or csa rip offs on facebook? I have joined and since found out lots of information. csa ripoff admin team are lisa Roberts and pete Roberts. they’ve helped loads of people who have come up with mysterious arrears and bullsh*t figures from csa.
    I recently had some advice… move out of your family home for a few weeks and ask your current partner to move you to contact cms and ask for payments via them. once the case has been opened any previous cases will be moved from csa 1 or csa2 to cms, making it 1.easier to understand(as everyones on the same page) and 2.payments should be more fair, and they cant take any tax credits from your partner or your kids that live with you into account.
    its really worth looking and joing the facebook pages. lisa Roberts is brilliant

  134. dave on March 11th, 2015 6:21 pm

    glad its all over for me, i was hounded by them even when over 900 pound in credit.and when my son came to live with me and i rang them to claim the other way they would not even return calls so had no help. sexist i think so.

  135. RS Man on April 22nd, 2015 1:30 pm

    I am a contractor operating a Ltd company as Director. When I dont work (sickness or holiday) I dont get paid. Despite sending records to the CSA confirming my unpaid time they still wanted paying for a 5 week period when I recieved no income. How does that work?
    My ex is getting £900 a month (CSA2) for 2 children off of me whilst pleading poverty & screwing every penny out of local charities and council departments for every benefit and donation going claiming benefits and not working/ earning a penny for herself. She even had the cheek to get a charity to buy her a new cooker and washing machine despite my payments.
    During this time she wont let me have the girls overnight as this would reduce her income from me and has rejected my application for variance (reasonable travel costs) as i have to drive 140+ miles each way to see them. I just get sporadic daytime only offers. I am considering signing my company over to my wife (NRPP) and drawing a minimum wage. Is that a) legal & b) going to reduce my payments. I have no leverage at all for my ex to agree to a contact order. She has refused mediation and rejected a contact offer from my solicitor. Taking her to court is going to cost £1000 in fees and costs that she does not have to stick to. Her bitterness is stopping my daughters having a relation ship with me.
    I hope to give her money tree a shake as the CSA dont care abiout the NRP what so ever.

  136. Andy G on July 5th, 2015 7:56 am

    I can only conclude that the NRP is left to rot.Yet as you all notice,CMS promote themselves as a equal and supportive agency…what a load of crap..
    you loose your house.you loise your job.not worth having a job anyway..
    CMS then hound you for any earnings you get.you are accused of abuse court orders and costs that are implimented for you trying to see your kids for about one
    hour a week..then after all that ex changes at will any contact..
    back to court only to find the judge supports the mother as she puts on a award winning performance infront of the judge….and it goes on…
    so in essance to it all dont get a job.live off benefits..
    the kids will loose out but she will only reduce contact any way..the winners in all this are solicitors..just see it know, shall I write another letter to your ex..yea great,thats £100.00 please…
    Is there any true forums for challenging CMS..
    I read all the supportive forums for dads etc and basically they are all a load of crap…

  137. marion on July 30th, 2015 12:02 pm

    It works both ways. My ex moans of paying a percentage of his earnings to support his two children. We divorced , he cut his payments due to claiming he was supporting his girlfriends two kids even though they get supported by their fathers through csa & this was allowed. So even though his gf kids are already provided for , he can take of ours to give them even more. It makes no difference theirs is a two income house & mine is only one. His is top wack wage mine only minimum. I’m a working mum which all of my income goes into providing for our children , how can he moan only part of his does ?? I left him & as I couldn’t afford court he kept our house, pensions & now spends them on his gf soon to be wife & his own children get less because his gf has two kids how is this fair. Its definately taking off my kids to pay for hers when hers are also being paid for by their dads ??

  138. kelly on August 19th, 2015 10:19 am

    my partner pays 207 month including arrears… He recently had a fulltime job and pays that’s much.. He doesn’t see the child at all because all his ex cares about is money money money…. We all know it’s goes on fags and £1 microwave meals for her child she recently had he child taken off her but then had her back few months later of social services… We had to move house to a cheaper one because we couldn’t afford all this on one wage.. I think it’s horrendous to think ctc is taken in to account when it’s your own hold money my husbands e’s child is nothing to do with me or my kids she had her own income support and her own tax credit … csa is one fucked up company single mums with kids r Laughing on benifits and getting an extra couple hundred a month .. that worst thing is she doesn’t claim of there other ex for the other child she has even tho that dad doesn’t bother .. its mad they only claim of one dad and not the other kids dad…. utter jeliousy I think…

  139. Alan on October 26th, 2015 10:04 pm

    Csa or cmo should take into account the nrp rent or mortgage, fuel, food, utility bills! I am all for fathers supporting financially but they should not be left under financial strain while the pwc has handouts left right and centre and way more than they need! I am 33 and if I was single I would have to live with my parents until my kids were 18 before I could have a place of own! Sick!

  140. ang on November 10th, 2015 4:25 pm

    I would just like to know if my partners earnings will get taken into acct when i calculate what weekly maintenance i pay to my ex? I cared for my son for 16 yrs and battled with my ex over maintenance he shud pay every month/yr. This yr my son wanted to go to college where his dad lives so weve agreed to let him stay with his dad for this period. Now his dad wants the same level of maint as he gave me in the last yr which is nowhere like what he paid me in 10 yrs and as i am only 16hrs working at min wage, the maintenance service calculater says i shud pay £10 a week. I actually pay this already and extras up to £60 a month. Im under the understanding my partners earnings wont gettaken into consideration as it is after 2003 and its a private agreement but i need to be sure as my ex is a total unintelligent bottom dweller that wont stop at anything in making my life difficult despite me trying to be fair for all of us including my son.

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