Chloe says:

Could I just respond to the above comment as the accussed.

Firstly can I say we have many PWC members who ARE treat with respect. The forum is in no way bias one way or the other.

This comment was obviously wrote by a member Lizzie from another forum, who thinks it is fine to leave NRP’s destiute, and infact finds it funny some are having to sell their homes, due to this current and illegal 2 year rule.

I believe both parents should support the child, as she kindly quotes my case, my ex does not pay CS, but pays into bank accts for university, it worked for us.

I am a NRPP, but not under any CS pressure, therefore no axe to grind. The website was set up simply cos there was demand for it.

The website is 8 days old and has approx 80 members, and 800 posts, it is obviously working for some.

Just a footnote to this…….. The PWC or her friend is currently in reciept of £300per month CS from the NRP for 1 child, though that is not enough she wants £700.

The 2 her and her friend gang up on people on the other forum, and so was told she was not welcome on ours, as we will NOT tolerate bullying. I guess this is a case of sour grapes

I would ask everybody to visit the site before making an assumption based on this posters view, you will be given a warm welcome assured,

lee says:

if it wasn’t for a fairercsa forum i’d be dead now!!!. thats all i have to say realy!.
no one else cared what the csa were doing to me or the pressure they were putting me under for no apparent reason. it was unbearable stress, now its just stress. i was alone and these people cared and gave some excellent advice and encouragement. they also showed me that i wasn’t the only one being threatened by the csa in this way and that i wasn’t alone. they could explain what was going on because they had at least taken the time to note other peoples situations and use that to try and help others. they were not just interested in their own problems!!!. the csa wern’t even explaining things. they just told me i’m doomed all the time basically. i had nowhere to turn to. chloe was in fact 1 of the first and main ones to jump to my screams for help when i found them. i may have a light at the end of this csa tunel at the moment after a long fight and its 50% my m.p. and 50% these understanding people that are getting me through this and have gave me the strength to not just curl up and die. without them i would never even had the strength to try and help myself and probably wouldn’t even be here now. that is the gods honest truth!!!

chall1964 says:

Hi everybody

I am jointly responsible for ‘afairercsaforall’ , along with chloe. The two of us have worked our socks off, to create an unbiased support website, as the pair of us truely believe the CSA fail both PWC, NRP and the children involved.
We have a good mix of PWC and NRP who are already members.

I am a PWC who receives no financial support towards my child, my NRP plays the system like a fiddle, I am also a NRPP, who’s partner is the victim of CSA errors and maladministration, his PWC blocks contact to his children – both sets of circumstances bring along their own set sof problems, which I can fully understand from either direction.

It is such a shame, that an individual is willing to post and be so arguementative and damning – I suppose we expected it to a certain degree, we exist and aim to support ALL of those that the CSA disgracefully fail – quite obviously our very existance and motives will displease some…..

Please take up chloes offer, come and take a look you are more than welcome. x

NB : ARE YOU IN ARREARS DUE TO CSA MALADMINISTRATION/ERRORS

If you are willing to give the BBC your case study for research on a programme, can you please call Chloe Brown at the BBC on 0208 752 6626.

You have to phone her by midday tomorrow 25th April. That is her deadline.

She needs a clear cut case of arrears where payments have been made consistently.

Please help her if you can.

Chloe says:

Right lets get one or two things clear here……….

This site is here for advice, not for anyone to use it to bad mouth another, so I shall refrain from your playground games……………..

We have NRP room, a NRPP and guess what a PWC room. These rooms have been there from the onset…………

It was a PWC who approached this site, to create this link, i thank her for it, but tell me why would any PWC want to advertise the site

All peeps are welcome, but we would not tolerate the bullying and ganging up. …..

This site has been created to help people caught in the CSA hell of it all. Please respect the owner, by not using his hard work to air your personal snipes…….

Thank You

pwc says:

I am a member of the fairer site. I am a pwc. I have found the site a source of help and information. I dont think it biased. Thankyou.

PWC says:

ahh use same name but lower case, clever things these NRPP’s . if you look on the other forum that these NRPP’s frequent you will see how biased she is, she told a PWC that mothers have no right to seek support from the father they should just “move on” now is that trying to help them seek a fair and just result ?

Chloe says:

Can I just give a public apology in naming Lizzie as the culprit, a little more investigation and it turns out she too was a victim. The PWC posting on this site is Debbi and her friend kibex. Now girls if you want to keep on arguing lets take it off this site thank you.

This site is to give genuine advice to genuine people in need, not a place to have personal vendettas

PWC says:

Thanks Michael, i would agree with your sentiments, its a shame that chole cannot take constructive critism and work with it, instead she hits back with verbal abuse , i have been watching the parentscentre forum and note whats going on in there, i would like to tell chole that she has got it all so wrong, im neither of the people she is naming both via unsubtle hints in PF and in public on her own forum, im also not “iamnotpaying” it seems the list of people she has abused is long, it will interesting to see if she listens to her own forum members and takes on board their comments about it being run solely by NRPP;s , yes she does get it wrong but the problem is she will never agree to that comment, a simple apology now and then for her rants at PWC who post would be a start, maybe with the advent of this new forum of hers she has changed but i very much doubt it, she needs to prove to people that she is unbiased and is working towards uniting PWC & NRP against the CSA, and while she works towards gaining peoples respect she has to be aware that people are waiting and expecting her to revert to her usual attitude to PWC, she has to earn that respect, not demand it !, i as the name implies am a PWC, i had problems with the NRP and posted a long time ago and was the victim of her backlash, I now use the forum for other matters but watch her comments, and feel sorry for the PWC’s that she has attacked. hence my post.

chole, prove to everyone im wrong, and i will be happy.

chall1964 says:

*****Red Letter Day*****02 July 2008*****

Hi Everybody,

Our site is now 11 weeks old, we have in that time been busy helping, NRP, PWC and NRPP, with the CSA.

As a group, we have decided the time is right to begin our first stage of action.

With the kind help of the friends and members of ‘afairercsaforall’, we have prepared a letter for anybody wishing to take part in the *Red Letter Campaign*.
on 02 July 2008.

Hopefully, all those parents who have issues with the CSA will unite for a common cause and join us.

I would like to say a big thankyou to everybody for their involvement with the site.

Chloe and I, would appreciate feed back and ideas from ALL parents, feel free to pm either of us on the fairer site.
Please remember that unless you use your voice it cannot be heard. Be involved and lets go forward together.