My advice to combat the CSA after a 20 year battle

April 20, 2018

I was going to put my sorry case on this site. I’ve read countless stories on here that all amount to the same thing.

I’ve been fighting with the CSA for around twenty years and at times ive used a solicitor.

Here’s my advice:

Whatever the CSA state that you owe, do the very best deal that you can with them and just pay it.

With all the will and knowledge in the world, you will not beat them. It doesnt matter how honest you are.

You need to understand this:

The CSA have free rein to do as they please. Nobody you know can touch them. The most you can hope for is to come on these sites and vent.

Here’s the clincher; If you do get the chance to appear in front of a tribunal. The Judge will F**k you over anyway. He/She will dismiss your evidence, bully you, double count, basically anything they want to do, they’ll do. If you appeal, the same judge will reject it . If you appeal to the upper tribunal, you will be F***ed over again.

Solicitors: forget them, They’ll wring you for a few grand and in the end, they’ll shrug and tell you that you have a case but theres nothing more they can do.

I’m in talks with a paper, not about the CSA but the tribunal judge that acted illegally in his own court.

Failing that i’ll be donning a batman costume and climbing onto a motorway bridge.

While we all sit moaning on here, nothing will ever change.

Comments

5 Responses to “My advice to combat the CSA after a 20 year battle”

  1. Peter Andersom on April 20th, 2018 3:53 pm

    No, they must prove any arrears. Csa has a very long history of inventing arrears. Indeed the invention of arrears on father’s accounts is so bad, over 3 billion, source the National Audit Office, that Csa is being closed down due to false accounting. Says it all. And Cms are using the same methods to invent arrears. The difference is Csa left it for years before trying to collect these arrears,even waiting until the cases were closed, whereas Cms try to collect much sooner

  2. Billy the Kid on April 21st, 2018 1:15 am

    I do not agree, if you cannot afford to pay what they are demanding 99.9% of the time is unaffordable and most of the time the arrears are grossly inflated and without doubt fraudulent. You must make a Formal Complaint – I myself had 12k of false arrears, I had already paid over 6k before I realised they were fraudulent. I made many complaints and eventaully after a fight with the idiots I had 5k of false arrears written off. Many others have also done the same as I and have had thousands of false arrears written off. Do not stand for being bullied by these pieces of shit, stand your ground, make your complaints and provide factual evidence where you can and of course demand they explain how you owe the alleged arrears. As I said 99.9% of the time the arrears are highly inflated and fraudulent . They always seem to attack people who are already paying voluntarily and have private arrangements. They are too spineless to chase after those who refuse to pay – here s a very interesting article https://www.express.co.uk/comment/columnists/ann-widdecombe/583292/Ann-Widdecombe-Agency-failings-dads

  3. tony perrin on May 27th, 2018 10:36 pm

    Thanks for your responses. Let me explain my post.

    my last tribunal was in 2012. it was for the period 2008 and was the result of a claim by my ex wife, encouraged by the CSA, that i was living beyond my means. I wasnt.

    what the CSA had to prove was that there was a big difference between my income and expenditure. That would be be so called income that i was hiding.

    I was in front of a Judge Ponting. He was intent from the outset that he would build up my expenditure.
    His first subject was my mortgage. it was a self certificating mortgage through a broker. The broker talked me through what numbers and income i had to declare to secure the mortgage and i was successful in securing it.
    From this judge Ponting came to the conclusion that i was not to be trusted and that any evidence i gave would probably be unreliable.

    Amongst other things, The judge decided that a truck loan repayment was under the wrong heading and as such, could not be treated as an expenditure in my balance sheet.
    This is where it becomes interesting. the repayments , if they were being disallowed, should have gone back into my gross income and through to my net income. However, Judge Ponting stated that the payments should go on to my expenditure. Thus raising the difference between my income and expenditure . That is double counting.
    I also produced evidence of around £7,000 in drawdown from my flexible mortgage but Judge Ponting dismissed it , even though nobody countered the evidence provided.

    I appealed the decision and surprise, Judge Ponting turned down the appeal as he warned me at the tribunal.
    I applied to the upper tribunal and was refused permission to appeal as the judge, in the upper tribunal’s opinion, had acted reasonably.
    The end result: i was deemed to have earned £24,000 in 2008, some two and a half times my actual earnings and another bill for £12,000
    Just to add a touch of irony the judge at the upper tribunal was Judge Edward Jacobs, The Judge that wrote the book on tribunals that other judges follow.

    That is why i state that judges are a law to themselves. I know i was shafted and the upper tribunal do too but there is no way they would do anything other than back the first tier tribunal judge to the hilt.

    During this time i did use a solicitor to the tune of some £3,500, That was money wasted as he said that although the judge acted illegally in many ways, the upper tribunal would close ranks and he was right.

    So i’m paying the money at £100 per month. My son is 25 and still happily holding his hand out. As far as im concerned, its his premature share of my will. my ex wife still lives in our house that i signed over only to find that the CSA lied to me about it being part of the settlement and i am 55 and skint.

    Your fighting talk is very noble but i have had my fight and lost because of a judge that abused his position. You cant fight that

  4. Barney on September 14th, 2018 12:41 pm

    So this is your way of admitting that you were wrong and they were right…

  5. tony perrin on September 28th, 2018 4:34 pm

    Hi Barney,
    If you had read my posts , you would have clearly seen that i know that i was and am still, right.
    I am at a loss as to how you came to your conclusion.
    The one thing that i might add is that i have a sneaking suspicion that my ex partner is actually putting the payments into her own pocket, rather than passing them on to my son.
    If i find that to be the case then i will obviously write him back into my will.

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