I am at the end of a long, hard struggle with the CSA
December 20, 2013
Today I feel terrible, yes suicial NO I WANT TO DIE!!!! Can someone help me kill myself!!!! This is killing me..why why!! Are they punishing me.
I truely am at the end of a hard long struggle with the CSA. Not only was I normal working man paying my private agreement as per our formal arrangement that was until the mother made abusive DEMANDS that I pay more. Which I genuinely could not afford.
NOW she went back to the CSA and this is what the CSA are doing. Now I have NASCSA reprsenting me and this is what they expalained.
I spoke with the CSA yesterday regarding your new assessment and for some reason it has been sent to Bolton to be dealt with clerically. She said they would be issuing you a new maintenance enquiry form and would take 12 – 26 weeks to process. She could not explain why it was being done clerically.
I argued this with her as the enquiry form was returned on 5th November so they have already had it six weeks so unreasonable for it to take a further 12-26 weeks to process. When I queried why they would be sending another form out when they already have the other one including the relevant payslips – she said that was a different centre and they need to send their own out.
She also stated that the effective date of the assessment would go from when you returned this second enquiry form and not from the November when the first one was returned. I would not trust that this would be the case but she refused to confirm this in writing so this is something I will keep a check on when they do eventually get the assessment sorted.
I have raised this argument to the complaints team and as you know we have to give them 15 working days to respond. As we are coming up to the Christmas holidays I would be surprised if we hear from them before the new year.
In the meantime, I calculated that your assessment is likely to be around £86 per week and if it does take the CSA this long to complete the assessment and backdate to either January or November then you will have some arrears. If you are in a position to may be start putting some extra money away so you can pay the arrears when notified or you may decide to work out a repayment plan once a balance has been verified.
sadly , this boils down to greed & to punish the nrp for leaving the relationship , the woman always gets her revenge…thanks to the csa
if u have prof of a private agreement u need to take to a lawyer and they send all info to CSA ( u cant do ti as they think it fake) even if it email of her saying about the agreement ect . they they can help u get CSA of ur back . even if u was paying less then want CSA would take a agreement is done that have to take it
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Your not the only one in this situation . That does not help but join the CSAhell.com Facebook page . Come the new year I think it’s time to get the press involved .
Isn’t it time something be done about the CSA? Just one father feeling suicidle because of their involvment is one too many. Reality there are thousands, I was once amongst them. They should back away when a father feels like this and a form of mediation should be put in place, by law. This is a hard time of year. CSA, take a holiday too. Preferably a perminant one.
the csa dont give a f**@ about dads they just take what they want dont look into how much you have to pay out to live and the mothers wage they left me broke whilst my ex is quids in in a brand new house tell me thats fair
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Adam that’s why organised bombardments of parliament , press and news should start .
But organised not just 1 or 2 stories but a proper demonstration about the hardships fathers are having.
General Election is looming the time is now to strike whilst the Iron is hot.
im with you on that the csa left me potless whilst my ex whos got a very well paid job said i was only a tennant in the house and got not a penny from it but the csa just said not there problem when i said tacking 40% of my wage was stopping me be a father to my kids they answered why dont you get a second job !!!!
All thank you for your responses, I’m at a lost completely.
Since I received that information from NASCSA and as you can clearly read the CSA staff are hell bent making life so financially difficult. I must leave my job now.
I’m told I’m not entitled to claim benefits and I’ve never claimed in my life, no wish to do so – I’ve worked hard always.
My MP has ignored my repeated requests for assistance. He keeps saying “did you pay her” “have you paid her”.
I went into pure panic and depression. I am still thinking that suicide is my only option. With NO VOICE then I like many others cannot be heard. We are all doomed.
I am told that the arrears mostly likely will be nearly £3,000 and I haven’t got a clue where I will get the money to pay it. On top of that my payments would be around £400 a month and I’ve never seen this child! How did the CSA sneak up into my life based on some girl’s say so~! without proper equal assessment.
How is that term “it takes two to tango” doesn’t also relate to “it takes two people pay also”. I know she is Polish on benefits and that’s a massive advantage for her given she has never worked here or paid taxes and yet I pay taxes! so am I not paying for the support of this child in some way? isn’t is better I work paying my taxes instead of screwing me to the ground until I cannot work!
I know this battle falls upon deaf MP ears, I know that the press BBC, SKY refuse to touch this subject unless it is about CHILD SUPPORT in a positive light. BUT PLEASE SOMEON HELP ME! HELP THE THOUSANDS of others who are being punished unjustly for merely trying to some fairness in this terrible mess.
These are normal people, hardworking people and only too willing to pay maintenance IF its done “fairly” “equally” and without “emotional bribery” such as PWC stopping access to the children. How does two people making a child GIVE only person full ownership?
NO RIGHTS
NO JOB
NO MONEY
NO DADDY
NO LIFE!
The press have been warned off the CSA, no paper will publish anything negative
Heard lots and lots of similar stories .
Something needs to be done the fathers are allowed a quality of life.
What evidence do you have Peter that the press have been warned off ?
State controlled media ^
Sally Armstrong its not just fathers i am a mother who is.in the same boat. Lost my home went to mp for help got no where filled a complaint got no where. What infuriates me is that the goverment says we need a certain amount to live on if we on benefit but if u work they dont care
Nothing is worth ending your life for!! Stay strong and seek help. I am sure fathers for justice can help with legal stuff, and there’s always the CAB. This is disgraceful, the CSA are supposed to act in the best interests of the child and as usual are doing the complete opposite!
Jolene I know more fathers below the bread line unable to afford their own homes .
Or rent or food and mothers then boot them further into poverty by stopping access.
I have no idea about your circumstances .
But the CSA was about absent fathers not paying .
It’s now about greedy mothers who are after destroying the fathers.
I totally agree Sally we need to make a stand against the CSA.. 2014 should be the year to do it.. Iv recently been in contact with my local mp n they say iv raised some very important points. I’m going to start working on my petition after new year. I’m also interested in protesting against the scum. Media need to be involved n perhaps someone like panorama
Let me make this clear to a lot of you – IT IS NOT JUST THE FATHERS THEY ARE CRUCIFYING. I have had the year from hell with these bastards and I also got to the point where I didn’t want to live any longer but please, please don’t let them win, they are not worth dying for seriously. I cannot understand how the PCWs can just sit there and let this happen to another human being – one that they have had a child with! They are the guilty party as much as the CSA who seem to delight in ripping families apart, destroying the NRP physically and mentally. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP!
Tracie, iv been sayin for weeks their not worth fighting individually, WE ALL NEED TO PULL TOGETHER AND FIGHT THEM AS 1. Protest, petitions media. In years gone by people would pull together and strike or protest against things that were unjust. These days many people don’t care. If it doesn’t affect them why bother and then there are others who will make a lit of noise about things but never follow throughbwith actions. This is why CSA are getting away with the poor treatment of NRO and also their new families. CSA don’t care
CSA don’t care about our complaints in words but if we all take action and show them we will fight them as 1 qith actions they will sit up and take note and so will the media
You feel suicidal for 86 quid a week? LOL
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Mel n tribe how sick are you? 86.00 a week if you cannot afford it is alot of any body’s money! You do not know this person’s circumstances or what has happened for it to come this far that he feels so helpless. Got nothing decent to say then say nothing at all. I certainly would not like to see another death because of the csa’s failings and lack of morals that follow it….how is that helping anyone?
The effective date applies from when the MEF is issued to the NRP not from when it is received back from the NRP.
So it would be a good idea to put something aside for the time when an assessment is completed so the arrears accrued can be met.
Mel I don’t find someone wanting to take their life a joke or a laughing matter. It may seem silly to you been over £86 a week but its more than just that its the financial strain not been able to provide for yourself. The fact that CSA want to put you into despair and poverty. If this man does tske his life then I hope the like of you feel like a bitch for laughing.. Trust me karma has a nasty way of biting you in the azz n you will get yours someday!!!
Skippydo
What a name
What I will say is that I have batted the CSA 3 years now. they are a stubborn foe. Ive no doubt that I ve got another 3 to go.
However to win against the csa its not about smashing them to bits, nor is it about putting one over on them. its about standing up to them. Its not even about winning. its about taking a stand and digging in like an oak tree. because you are right. All the while your standing your fighting. and while you are fighting someone in that office is getting a hard time
If you commit suicide then you are nothing more than one less problem for them to resolve. We then have one less fighter
Stay a problem.
Stick the fight when your hardest hit, its when things seem worse that you mustn’t quit
We have all reached that point and we have all overcome