CSA said I should not buy clothes for my children, I should pay the CSA instead
October 24, 2012
The CSA are taking me to court for a Liability order.
They have conveniently lost all of my correspondence regarding my appeal against there highly erroneous assessment (£400 a week after tax!!!) so, as they have no trace of an Appeal, they can take me to court.
I spoke to Margaret Cooper today, in their Enforcement department. I challenged her on all the things I pay for my kids that don’t go through the mother, including the school uniform I bought as the ex refused to.
Mrs Cooper’s reply was: that was your decision to buy those clothes and we don’t take it into account.
Oh, so I should just send my kids to school naked in future, should I?
Would you care to run your policy past Social Services before making anymore utterly stupid comments?
The CSA.
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Quote William; They have conveniently lost all of my correspondence regarding my appeal against there highly erroneous assessment (£400 a week after tax!!!) so, as they have no trace of an Appeal, they can take me to court.
The CSA do not usually tend to suspend collection of arrears if a supersession, variation or appeal is pending.
1) Is your case old or new rules?
2) What date was the assessment of £400pw made?
3) Was the £400pw just for regular maintenance OR did it also include an amount for arrears?
4) What date did you appeal?
5) What date are on the Liability Order?
6) How much is the Liability Order for?
7) Did you initially comply with the CSA requests for your income details, to enable a proper calculation to be made?
8) Is you case subject to a penalty assessment?
9) Have you paid any child support via the CSA whilst they have been involved?
10) Have you kept copies of all the correspondence regarding the appeal so you can re replace such with the CSA?
Mrs Cooper’s reply was correct regarding clothes etc that you have purchased for your children.
Once a NRP liability has been calculated, that amount is due for the day to day living costs of the child/ren. Extra’s such as clothes, after school club etc are at the NRP’s discretion.
chall ~ afairercsaforall
I think his point he was trying to make about mrs Coopers reply was not about it being correct or incorrect.
His point is the csa don’t give a damm about the child….it’s track record and ruthless tactics to destroy hard working honest NRP’ s proves it.
At the end of the day it cares only about how much in taxes it can rob from parents using the child support chestnut as an excuse.its another tax to put back money into the treasury.damm all to do with helping the kids when it is willing to see a father on the streets because it’s taken the roof from his head.take sooo much money from a father and forcing him into poverty where he can no longer see his kids.Tell me and the rest of us Mr csa……where the hell do you actually help anyone apart from the treasury??
I’ll answer that one Gonk – NO!!! it only helps itself…
Gonk, I agree with you a 100%. I loathe the CSA with an absolute passion. We all know on here what this vile organisation do, how they lie,deceive, make up arrears and make threats.
Chall is purely explaining how the CSA operate with their one sided rules.
Ijust heard that the rules are changing and by 2014 the government are going ahead with their plans to charge people to have their lives destroyed by the csa. It will of course have yet another change of name and a new tax payer funded computer system but is still the same old scam. It seems they intend charging the PWC (often a mum trying to struggle through) (but also sometimes a dad) an amount of 7% to collect the money from the NRP. Meantime the NRP gets charged 20% if the csa are involved. (bit of discrimination going on there then!) I’m not sure but I think the NRP gets charged the 20% on top of the calculated payments and the PWC get the 7% taken out of the received payment!!! Talk about filthy crooked soul destroying scam, the civil servant who dreamed this up and the politician who signed it off should be caught, blindfolded and put against a wall, but thats just my view. (dont try this at home kids) In this way the government get a guarenteed income of 27% from each vulnerable family already going through what is probably the most traumatic time of their lives. Its disgusting and anyone who condones this is guilty by association. People should pay their dues but if they dont the matter should be dealt with on an individual basis by the courts. This is just a tax collection exercise by the government so they can conduct their dubious military campaigns in innocent coutries while creating jobs for the DWP in areas of high unemployment. Disgusting evil government policy!
Hi J
This is very disturbing and frightening news indeed and I wander how many NRP’s already suffering their financial ruin and torture will survive this new scam.
I can’t say on here what I’d like to do with the csa and the bottom dwelling pond life that work for them.
yes the CSA can take you to court for a liability order however if you take copies of your appeal to the Mags and a statement with a record/note of your telecon saying they have lost the appeal papers then you should ask the Mags to follow the House of Lords ruling in Farley v CSA viz they should adjourn or stay the action under section 54[?] of the Mags Act 1980.
If you show them clearly there is an appeal against the assessment they are trying to enforce they should adjourn [most will not grant a liability order against an assessment which is under appeal] if not you have grounds for appeal higher and
You should also write to the Tribunal beforehand saying that the CSA are trying to enforce the assessment you are appealing and ask for a stay on enforcement and write to the Chief Exec of CSA asking why he is ignoring CSA guidance. Be careful though as the Tribunal is often just an extension of the CSA as far as NRP’s are concerned as are often the Mags
this is quote from attachment of earnings order.
The magistrates’ court may not take the following in to account.
1.you cannot afford to pay
2 you do no believe the maintenance payments are correct
3 you have a change in circumstances
4 you have made voluntary payments
5 you have an outstanding appeal outside the liability order period
6 the amount of contact you have with your children
you just as well say you are not allowed to argue your case you have no rights what so ever period. There are no words to describe the csa they destroy more families kill more people than the worst virus on earth.
■steve on October 27th, 2012 11:53 pm
this is quote from attachment of earnings order.
The magistrates’ court may not take the following in to account.
1.you cannot afford to pay
2 you do no believe the maintenance payments are correct
3 you have a change in circumstances
4 you have made voluntary payments
5 you have an outstanding appeal outside the liability order period
6 the amount of contact you have with your children
you just as well say you are not allowed to argue your case you have no rights what so ever period. There are no words to describe the csa they destroy more families kill more people than the worst virus on earth.
Kinda rings a few alarm bells with the human rights act doesnt it? Very often your ex doesnt get the money, its delayed or just ‘vanishes’, its a bit like theft isnt it? Makes you wonder, this isnt a democracy at all, the uk government seem to be behaving like the nazis in 1939. Well mr ian duncan smith we all know what happened to the nazis dont we?