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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.csahell.com/new-csa-advice-forum-33.html/comment-page-1#comment-418</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been a member of the aforementioned forum now for little over a week. In that time I have found it to be fair and not biased in any way. I was so impressed with them and their attitude that I am now helping them set up a main site. I believe if any group is going to make change its us. Therefore anyone else who is also dedicated to this goal, I would urge you to join us.

www.afairercsaforall.co.uk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a member of the aforementioned forum now for little over a week. In that time I have found it to be fair and not biased in any way. I was so impressed with them and their attitude that I am now helping them set up a main site. I believe if any group is going to make change its us. Therefore anyone else who is also dedicated to this goal, I would urge you to join us.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.afairercsaforall.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.afairercsaforall.co.uk</a></p>
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		<title>By: chall1964</title>
		<link>http://www.csahell.com/new-csa-advice-forum-33.html/comment-page-1#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>chall1964</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*****Red Letter Day*****02 July 2008*****

Hi Everybody,

Our site is now 11 weeks old, we have in that time been busy helping, NRP, PWC and NRPP, with the CSA.

As a group, we have decided the time is right to begin our first stage of action.

With the kind help of the friends and members of ‘afairercsaforall’, we have prepared a letter for anybody wishing to take part in the *Red Letter Campaign*.
on 02 July 2008.

Hopefully, all those parents who have issues with the CSA will unite for a common cause and join us.

I would like to say a big thankyou to everybody for their involvement with the site.

Chloe and I, would appreciate feed back and ideas from ALL parents, feel free to pm either of us on the fairer site.
Please remember that unless you use your voice it cannot be heard. Be involved and lets go forward together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*****Red Letter Day*****02 July 2008*****</p>
<p>Hi Everybody,</p>
<p>Our site is now 11 weeks old, we have in that time been busy helping, NRP, PWC and NRPP, with the CSA.</p>
<p>As a group, we have decided the time is right to begin our first stage of action.</p>
<p>With the kind help of the friends and members of ‘afairercsaforall’, we have prepared a letter for anybody wishing to take part in the *Red Letter Campaign*.<br />
on 02 July 2008.</p>
<p>Hopefully, all those parents who have issues with the CSA will unite for a common cause and join us.</p>
<p>I would like to say a big thankyou to everybody for their involvement with the site.</p>
<p>Chloe and I, would appreciate feed back and ideas from ALL parents, feel free to pm either of us on the fairer site.<br />
Please remember that unless you use your voice it cannot be heard. Be involved and lets go forward together.</p>
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		<title>By: Chloe</title>
		<link>http://www.csahell.com/new-csa-advice-forum-33.html/comment-page-1#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>Chloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 18:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guy&#039;s just a quick update the forum is now quite busy 130plus members. You will be pleased to know our moderators now consist of 1 NRP, 1 PWC and 3 NRPP and PWC. NACSA Chair has moerator status on NACSA related forums. Thanx for your support</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guy&#8217;s just a quick update the forum is now quite busy 130plus members. You will be pleased to know our moderators now consist of 1 NRP, 1 PWC and 3 NRPP and PWC. NACSA Chair has moerator status on NACSA related forums. Thanx for your support</p>
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		<title>By: PWC</title>
		<link>http://www.csahell.com/new-csa-advice-forum-33.html/comment-page-1#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>PWC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Michael, i would agree with  your sentiments, its a shame that chole cannot take constructive critism and work with it, instead she hits back with verbal abuse , i have been watching the parentscentre forum and note whats going on in there, i would like to tell chole that she has got it all so wrong, im neither of the people she is naming both via unsubtle hints in PF and in public on her own forum, im also not &quot;iamnotpaying&quot; it seems the list of people she has abused is long, it will interesting to see if she listens to her own forum members and takes on board their comments about it being run solely by NRPP;s , yes she does get it wrong but the problem is she will never agree to that comment, a simple apology now and then for her rants at PWC who post would be a start, maybe with the advent of this new forum of hers she has changed but i very much doubt it, she needs to prove to people that she is unbiased and is working towards uniting PWC &amp; NRP against the CSA, and while she works towards gaining peoples respect she has to be aware that people are waiting and expecting her to revert to her usual attitude to PWC, she has to earn that respect, not demand it !, i as the name implies am a PWC, i had problems with the NRP and posted a long time ago and was the victim of her backlash, I now use the forum for other matters but watch her comments, and feel sorry for the PWC&#039;s that she has attacked. hence my post.

chole, prove to everyone im wrong, and i will be happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Michael, i would agree with  your sentiments, its a shame that chole cannot take constructive critism and work with it, instead she hits back with verbal abuse , i have been watching the parentscentre forum and note whats going on in there, i would like to tell chole that she has got it all so wrong, im neither of the people she is naming both via unsubtle hints in PF and in public on her own forum, im also not &#8220;iamnotpaying&#8221; it seems the list of people she has abused is long, it will interesting to see if she listens to her own forum members and takes on board their comments about it being run solely by NRPP;s , yes she does get it wrong but the problem is she will never agree to that comment, a simple apology now and then for her rants at PWC who post would be a start, maybe with the advent of this new forum of hers she has changed but i very much doubt it, she needs to prove to people that she is unbiased and is working towards uniting PWC &amp; NRP against the CSA, and while she works towards gaining peoples respect she has to be aware that people are waiting and expecting her to revert to her usual attitude to PWC, she has to earn that respect, not demand it !, i as the name implies am a PWC, i had problems with the NRP and posted a long time ago and was the victim of her backlash, I now use the forum for other matters but watch her comments, and feel sorry for the PWC&#8217;s that she has attacked. hence my post.</p>
<p>chole, prove to everyone im wrong, and i will be happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, if everyone&#039;s upset over the type of content on that forum, you can use the one on this site instead. It&#039;s just been setup so doesn&#039;t have any arguments in it (albeit yet).

If you have a username on this site you can log straight in.

Try our CSA forum here: http://www.csahell.com/forums</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, if everyone&#8217;s upset over the type of content on that forum, you can use the one on this site instead. It&#8217;s just been setup so doesn&#8217;t have any arguments in it (albeit yet).</p>
<p>If you have a username on this site you can log straight in.</p>
<p>Try our CSA forum here: <a href="http://www.csahell.com/forums" rel="nofollow">http://www.csahell.com/forums</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chloe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I just give a public apology in naming Lizzie as the culprit, a little more investigation and it turns out she too was a victim. The PWC posting on this site is Debbi and her friend kibex. Now girls if you want to keep on arguing lets take it off this site thank you. 

This site is to give genuine advice to genuine people in need, not a place to have personal vendettas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I just give a public apology in naming Lizzie as the culprit, a little more investigation and it turns out she too was a victim. The PWC posting on this site is Debbi and her friend kibex. Now girls if you want to keep on arguing lets take it off this site thank you. </p>
<p>This site is to give genuine advice to genuine people in need, not a place to have personal vendettas</p>
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		<title>By: mykidscash</title>
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		<dc:creator>mykidscash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a PWC who is a member of the site in question, (under a different username to the one I use here, and on parents centre) - I have the right to voice my say. The site has been no use to me whatsoever. It&#039;s been no real use to anyone, be it NRP NRPP or PWC. 

That&#039;s because the site has only just started, give it a chance to get off the ground. I&#039;m sure as it grows, it will be an invaluable source of support from both ends. Fact is, Chloe could have done what another member of the otherside did and open a site purely for NRPs/NRPPs. She didn&#039;t. She opened a site for both sides, as she realises that it takes a united front to fight it. ONLY a PWC know&#039;s a PWC&#039;s view and vice versa for NRP&#039;s/NRPP&#039;s. Just because she opened a site for both sides, doesn&#039;t mean she has to support a PWC - that&#039;s why it&#039;s an open site, to take support from each other as members. Chloe recognises that PWC have a rough ride too, but yes she gets frustrated at times when a PWC seems to be taking the buscuit and it is easy to get it wrong. How often have we been wrong in the assumption that all NRP&#039;s are like our ex&#039;s - deadbeats who don&#039;t give a damn? Pretty damn often from my end, and though I realise not all NRP&#039;s are like that, I occasionally slip up, as has Chloe. It&#039;s not unsupportive, it&#039;s human bloody nature to get things wrong.

I am a single parent with care, I have no NRP living with me and am therefore no NRPP, my boyfriend who does not live with me has no children so I don&#039;t get it from that end either. Not that I have to justify myself to anyone on here. Just putting the point across that I have no real involvement with any NRP, but I do see what they go through.

I don&#039;t believe for one minute NRP&#039;s have it worse than PWC. But neither do I believe that PWC all have it worse than NRP&#039;s either. Some caseworkers seem to pick who they choose to favour, and lets face it the only cases we are truely interested in are our own - that is the sole reason we join these forums, to gain support and advice to help our cases.

The only negatives I can truely see in the site is that all moderator privelages happen to be NRPP&#039;s as well as PWC. Perhaps if there were more mods who were sole PWC or sole NRP/NRPP&#039;s, this would give a more balanced view of the site, more people would be comfortable in posting/joining.  (Note to Chloe: don&#039;t ask me, no interest in being a mod lol, but think it would be a better site if there were more balanced mods) I also note that there is a NRP room, NRPP room and a PWC room. What happened to having a PWCP room? They are part of the CSA fiasco too. This is a new site, it is still in the early days. 

Unless you frequent there and see exactly what they are doing and how they are making it better, you have no real cause to comment other than to criticise someone&#039;s hardworking efforts just because you have a personal feud going on with them on another site.

Grow up, you&#039;re worse than the kids involved with the CSA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a PWC who is a member of the site in question, (under a different username to the one I use here, and on parents centre) &#8211; I have the right to voice my say. The site has been no use to me whatsoever. It&#8217;s been no real use to anyone, be it NRP NRPP or PWC. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s because the site has only just started, give it a chance to get off the ground. I&#8217;m sure as it grows, it will be an invaluable source of support from both ends. Fact is, Chloe could have done what another member of the otherside did and open a site purely for NRPs/NRPPs. She didn&#8217;t. She opened a site for both sides, as she realises that it takes a united front to fight it. ONLY a PWC know&#8217;s a PWC&#8217;s view and vice versa for NRP&#8217;s/NRPP&#8217;s. Just because she opened a site for both sides, doesn&#8217;t mean she has to support a PWC &#8211; that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s an open site, to take support from each other as members. Chloe recognises that PWC have a rough ride too, but yes she gets frustrated at times when a PWC seems to be taking the buscuit and it is easy to get it wrong. How often have we been wrong in the assumption that all NRP&#8217;s are like our ex&#8217;s &#8211; deadbeats who don&#8217;t give a damn? Pretty damn often from my end, and though I realise not all NRP&#8217;s are like that, I occasionally slip up, as has Chloe. It&#8217;s not unsupportive, it&#8217;s human bloody nature to get things wrong.</p>
<p>I am a single parent with care, I have no NRP living with me and am therefore no NRPP, my boyfriend who does not live with me has no children so I don&#8217;t get it from that end either. Not that I have to justify myself to anyone on here. Just putting the point across that I have no real involvement with any NRP, but I do see what they go through.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe for one minute NRP&#8217;s have it worse than PWC. But neither do I believe that PWC all have it worse than NRP&#8217;s either. Some caseworkers seem to pick who they choose to favour, and lets face it the only cases we are truely interested in are our own &#8211; that is the sole reason we join these forums, to gain support and advice to help our cases.</p>
<p>The only negatives I can truely see in the site is that all moderator privelages happen to be NRPP&#8217;s as well as PWC. Perhaps if there were more mods who were sole PWC or sole NRP/NRPP&#8217;s, this would give a more balanced view of the site, more people would be comfortable in posting/joining.  (Note to Chloe: don&#8217;t ask me, no interest in being a mod lol, but think it would be a better site if there were more balanced mods) I also note that there is a NRP room, NRPP room and a PWC room. What happened to having a PWCP room? They are part of the CSA fiasco too. This is a new site, it is still in the early days. </p>
<p>Unless you frequent there and see exactly what they are doing and how they are making it better, you have no real cause to comment other than to criticise someone&#8217;s hardworking efforts just because you have a personal feud going on with them on another site.</p>
<p>Grow up, you&#8217;re worse than the kids involved with the CSA.</p>
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		<title>By: PWC</title>
		<link>http://www.csahell.com/new-csa-advice-forum-33.html/comment-page-1#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>PWC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahh use same name but lower case, clever things these NRPP&#039;s . if you look on the other forum that these NRPP&#039;s frequent you will see how biased she is, she told a PWC that mothers have no right to seek support from the father they should just &quot;move on&quot;  now is that trying to help them seek a fair and just result ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahh use same name but lower case, clever things these NRPP&#8217;s . if you look on the other forum that these NRPP&#8217;s frequent you will see how biased she is, she told a PWC that mothers have no right to seek support from the father they should just &#8220;move on&#8221;  now is that trying to help them seek a fair and just result ?</p>
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		<title>By: PWC</title>
		<link>http://www.csahell.com/new-csa-advice-forum-33.html/comment-page-1#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>PWC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes his site has no hint of bias and he also has launched his won forum

http://www.csahell.com/forums/

i would advice &quot;peeps&quot; to use that one rather than the NRPP run one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes his site has no hint of bias and he also has launched his won forum</p>
<p><a href="http://www.csahell.com/forums/" rel="nofollow">http://www.csahell.com/forums/</a></p>
<p>i would advice &#8220;peeps&#8221; to use that one rather than the NRPP run one.</p>
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		<title>By: pwc</title>
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		<dc:creator>pwc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a  member of the fairer site. I am a pwc. I have found the site a source of help and information. I dont think it biased. Thankyou.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a  member of the fairer site. I am a pwc. I have found the site a source of help and information. I dont think it biased. Thankyou.</p>
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