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		<title>By: Gordon Clifton</title>
		<link>http://www.csahell.com/i-was-not-working-but-still-csa-wants-money-1278.html/comment-page-1#comment-12023</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Clifton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 23:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To sapman: the CSA always play the &#039;out of time&#039; card. If you can show that they made a mistake at the time (used wrong data etc) you could be in with a chance. The out-of-time rules are there to limit the time in which new evidence can be brought to bear. It is not there to protect them against their mistakes which you have to discover within a certain amount of time. In a long running case (alleged arrears dating back 8 years) which I am now concluding I discovered their errors only when I received all personal data under the Data Protection Act 1998. The case is now with the independent case examiner. Good luck - it can be a long battle but it&#039;s winnable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To sapman: the CSA always play the &#8216;out of time&#8217; card. If you can show that they made a mistake at the time (used wrong data etc) you could be in with a chance. The out-of-time rules are there to limit the time in which new evidence can be brought to bear. It is not there to protect them against their mistakes which you have to discover within a certain amount of time. In a long running case (alleged arrears dating back 8 years) which I am now concluding I discovered their errors only when I received all personal data under the Data Protection Act 1998. The case is now with the independent case examiner. Good luck &#8211; it can be a long battle but it&#8217;s winnable.</p>
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		<title>By: sapman</title>
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		<dc:creator>sapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 18:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have the same case i have arrears THEY HAVE DUG UP from 17 years ago , when i told them i was unemployed they said prove it, i did after a 6 month process( data protection etc special request to inland revenue etc) and now they are saying sorry you should have told us 17 years ago and you only had 28 days to appeal ! so you appeal is rejected cos ur 17 years too late...... wtf are these morons on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have the same case i have arrears THEY HAVE DUG UP from 17 years ago , when i told them i was unemployed they said prove it, i did after a 6 month process( data protection etc special request to inland revenue etc) and now they are saying sorry you should have told us 17 years ago and you only had 28 days to appeal ! so you appeal is rejected cos ur 17 years too late&#8230;&#8230; wtf are these morons on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Clifton</title>
		<link>http://www.csahell.com/i-was-not-working-but-still-csa-wants-money-1278.html/comment-page-1#comment-2958</link>
		<dc:creator>Gordon Clifton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 01:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Harassment - if you check the Harassment Act 1997 and subsequent revisions you will find that government departments pursuing terrorists, debtors, nefarious persons etc are exempt. This accounts for some of the appalling behaviour of individuals in, for example, the CSA, HMRC, Social Services. These people see themselves as beyond the law until, of course, they are pulled up short by victims who are sufficiently tenacious and knowledgeable. The situation is made so much worse by the apparently limited intellect of such individuals and their amoral approach to their working lives. As an advocate for vulnerable people I feel a great sense of accomplishment when I am able to get to grips with bullying state employees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Harassment &#8211; if you check the Harassment Act 1997 and subsequent revisions you will find that government departments pursuing terrorists, debtors, nefarious persons etc are exempt. This accounts for some of the appalling behaviour of individuals in, for example, the CSA, HMRC, Social Services. These people see themselves as beyond the law until, of course, they are pulled up short by victims who are sufficiently tenacious and knowledgeable. The situation is made so much worse by the apparently limited intellect of such individuals and their amoral approach to their working lives. As an advocate for vulnerable people I feel a great sense of accomplishment when I am able to get to grips with bullying state employees.</p>
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		<title>By: martin dell</title>
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		<dc:creator>martin dell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 21:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brokenfather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brokenfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is a fact that there is an actual law called FATHERS RIGHTS!&quot;

No there isn&#039;t. You have been mis-informed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is a fact that there is an actual law called FATHERS RIGHTS!&#8221;</p>
<p>No there isn&#8217;t. You have been mis-informed.</p>
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		<title>By: Noush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant leaving posts not emailing. No one is attacking Fathers, people are attacking CSA and NRP that get out of paying for their children. It is a fact that there is an actual law called FATHERS RIGHTS, out there, which means CSA dont push NRP to pay incase they get taken to court for harressment. An actual call centre operative at CSA told me so. Im not against fathers or NRP having rights at all, I just think that both parents should have equal rights in court and with CSA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant leaving posts not emailing. No one is attacking Fathers, people are attacking CSA and NRP that get out of paying for their children. It is a fact that there is an actual law called FATHERS RIGHTS, out there, which means CSA dont push NRP to pay incase they get taken to court for harressment. An actual call centre operative at CSA told me so. Im not against fathers or NRP having rights at all, I just think that both parents should have equal rights in court and with CSA.</p>
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		<title>By: Brokenfather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brokenfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noush.

I am not emailing anyone, I am simply commenting on a public internet message board.

Why would you lie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noush.</p>
<p>I am not emailing anyone, I am simply commenting on a public internet message board.</p>
<p>Why would you lie?</p>
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		<title>By: Noush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 11:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Message to Broken Father - It is Fair. If a Single Parent, who gets benefits, gets a job or their part time job increases, they have to declare this to the DWP, otherwise payments get back dated for them too!! Its a fact. Deal with it and stop emailing everyone that fathers get the rough end of the deal. Its the children that are suffering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Message to Broken Father &#8211; It is Fair. If a Single Parent, who gets benefits, gets a job or their part time job increases, they have to declare this to the DWP, otherwise payments get back dated for them too!! Its a fact. Deal with it and stop emailing everyone that fathers get the rough end of the deal. Its the children that are suffering.</p>
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		<title>By: Noush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 11:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CSA would only say your in arrears if you were not on job seekers allowance, otherwise they would have recalculated it. Im not by any means sticking up for CSA, i think they are rubbish. But I know that when my Ex has been out of work for real, they simply take £5 per week from his job seekers allowance, via the Job Centre. So surely you must have proof your out of work, ie your papers that prove you were on job seekers or disability allowance. They should only work out arrears, if you were working and they base that about on 15 percent of your net pay! You need to reguarly keep in touch with CSA with updates, payslips, benefit details, its not just a service for the Resident parent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CSA would only say your in arrears if you were not on job seekers allowance, otherwise they would have recalculated it. Im not by any means sticking up for CSA, i think they are rubbish. But I know that when my Ex has been out of work for real, they simply take £5 per week from his job seekers allowance, via the Job Centre. So surely you must have proof your out of work, ie your papers that prove you were on job seekers or disability allowance. They should only work out arrears, if you were working and they base that about on 15 percent of your net pay! You need to reguarly keep in touch with CSA with updates, payslips, benefit details, its not just a service for the Resident parent.</p>
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		<title>By: Brokenfather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brokenfather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 12:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just another example of the discrimination against fathers imposed by the CSA.

If your income increases and you fail to tell them your increased liability is backdated.

If your income decreases and you fail to tell them then your decreased liability is not backdated.

Where is the fairness in that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just another example of the discrimination against fathers imposed by the CSA.</p>
<p>If your income increases and you fail to tell them your increased liability is backdated.</p>
<p>If your income decreases and you fail to tell them then your decreased liability is not backdated.</p>
<p>Where is the fairness in that?</p>
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