How to beat the CSA

The CSA, or Child Support Agency, claims to be putting children first and is interested in getting payments to children. This of course is not true, as the complaints about the CSA from both non resident parents and parents with care prove – complaints that can be read on this website.

Children would be much better off if the CSA were not involved and a private arrangement were made between parents concerning the payment of maintenance. This is in fact the best way to beat the CSA. If you are your ex can come to an agreement on how much should be paid, and how often, you can leave the Child Support Agency out of the equation, saving a lot of stress and heartache for all concerned.

Of course, you must be careful to record all payments and keep a signed agreement between you both. Never pay in cash, and always pay in a way that keeps a paper trail, such as a direct debit or BACS transfer.

This is one way to beat the CSA, but when some fathers ask how can they beat the CSA they mean how can they avoided payment to the CSA altogether. This isn’t advised because your children need your support, but there ways to reduce your payments so that the CSA doesn’t get as much as they wish.

For example, you could complete a variations form so that the CSA has to take your expenses involved with access to your children into consideration. You could become self employed so that your daily expenses are treated as tax deductable, reducing your declared earnings – or you could leave the country altogether, where the CSA has limited powers and generally will not bother with the hassle of pursuing you.

The CSA wants easy targets – NRPs in full time employment so they can issue a deduction from earnings order. Beat the CSA at their own game.


58 Responses to “How to beat the CSA”

  1. Sir Gordon on August 4th, 2016 10:54 am

    CSA is a disaster, from Day One. And I can’t fathom how the people that work there go home at night satisfied.

    There are wasteful individuals in our society using this system to their convenience, to steal hard earnings from good ad honest people, whilst claim all other level of assistance, working minimal hours and the rest. If you find yourself in a higher wage bracket it is +%%. So why should a “wasteful individual” who personally has a new home (with Claims), New car and goes as please when the child appears in poor attire, seconds and bargain bin offers. Feeding of another’s blood, sweat and tears.

    The CSA only bolsters those “non contributors” life style. We jail people in court for the same belligerence. Yet we punish the worker, the contributor and up standing person CSA / Child Maintenance. Clear the system has been created by “idiots”, very evident by is end result and outputs.

    I agree on a system, though the correct process must be in place with simple parameters and characteristics, The new 2014 20% punishment on the new scheme is a disgrace. The approver(s) should be shot. If the mother does not agree to a fair amicable amount within reason and goes for her on greed. The payer is then further punished with 20%. Even CSA staff voice there disgruntlement about this and are embarrassed.

    We “Mess” around with silly laws, break our economy, waste money on events rather than our infrastructure, but yet they cannot address correcting the CSA / maintenance topic with common sense and a system that is fair balancing equality of life.

    What ever happen to equal rights ……… but yet the Sherriff Clark can refuse on the basis “The child is too young to stay with his father” ….. after you blow 000’s to see your child breath. What a disgrace ….. the child’s father has joint responsibility and psychologically the child needs best of both equal to support a robust and stable upbringing. We live in a country where idiots place idiots in front of them and do not have the balls to do what is equally right, logically and balance equality.

    1. There should be a review (21st Century permits even a conference facility)
    2. There should be a cap at the current standard of living. If One exceed, then this at one’s own effort
    3. % applied if under the “Cost of Living”
    4. Divisible by Child
    5. Penalty to the non-agree’r providing there is a fair and amicable proposal

    I have no issue providing for my child, though I need to see him to do so for soft and hard purposes. Not because of a whim to say no, attempt to control and bolster greed.

    Proposal :

    If everyone likeminded donates and collaborates with justice for fathers in the UK, we can take the parliament to court repeatedly with queens councillors. The government will soon break, press will sound publish facts, All publish proof from there experiences and those people being buried under the poorest attempt of administration there is today will be heard. People are jailed for these outcomes in other circumstance or fired from jobs for these failures and poor performance.

    Its theft, its not equal, is poorly defined ………..

  2. Ian Watkin on September 1st, 2016 7:28 pm

    The CSA have ruined everything. Had an agreement with the Ex for payments, i got new girlfriend, the Ex then told CSA I had not made any payments for 92 weeks. I asked if hadn’t made any payments why would she complain now and not 2 or 3 weeks after missed payments started. This is regardless of the fact that I had been buying children things they need too (with receipts to prove to it). If I wanted to contest the 5500 alleged missed payments through the courts, I’ve been told it would probably cost me around £10 to £12 thousand pounds. It seems her drug habit, drinking habit and the importance of getting more and more tattoo’s didn’t even come into significance. Treated like a criminal. Now I have had to have an attachment of earnings because the ex won’t let me pay by D/Debit. I have had the privilege of earning to provide for my children taken away from me. The CSA have said that I have no legal obligation to provide a single thing for my children as my payments secure this. What good is that to me when the children are still asking me for things they need, not want, and I can’t buy it because I’m skint. But she’s still getting pissed and stoned. She has two previous children and gets small payment from previous Ex’s dole money. Can i be assured that my money is solely being spent on my children, can I bollocks. What an absolute fucked up, one sided, unfair system. My brother hung himself aged 33 because these fucking idiots wouldn’t listen to what he was saying.

  3. Darryl on September 6th, 2016 6:43 pm

    Omg Ian Watkins, everyone, this is a disgrace I know this pain only too well, being used for cash to feed the exes new partners crack and drinking habit, been to local mp, got nothing, pleaded with them got no where and they are at it again now,I need to know something…does my boss have to acknowledge I work with his firm, I still feel very unsure where they are aloud to get information from, my old boss said I didn’t work there and they went away but I’ve changed job now they want more, problem I have is my eldest now lives with me and they still want money for arrears and another child,what do I do for Christmas, birthdays, holidays, days out, while her fuck up mum who buys her £30 of shit from a catalogue, every special occasions,..whilst I’m sending her £80 a week with arrears, then second child who I don’t get to see because her free loading cheating manipulative mother decides to up sticks one day without a fucking goodbye gets on the blower and joins the bandwagon, thing they only do it out of spite and that’s what sucks I could go on,but I’ve told those cunts overseas a few times I hope they rest well in their beds knowing they are putting a father of two and a plus 1 out of work, utterly immoral and a damned disgrace… I do apologise for the language but this is a very stressful and emotional and live changing topic…somebody help the children

  4. Chris on October 10th, 2016 8:00 pm

    The new cms “arranges” the amount I’m forced to pay each year. The system is a disgrace the staff are rude and clueless. I have my son a third of the time, I tried for 50% but being a father the court wouldn’t give that of course. So I’m forced to pay almost £4000 per year that’s about £24 per night she has him over me. She receives full benefits for him while I get not one pence from anywhere and she provides nothing. She openly laughs about using the money for soliciters to stop me seeing my son. Fathers and children should be treated fairly, the system is welfare for women and a fine for fathers.

  5. Mick McKinney on October 12th, 2016 12:54 pm

    My CSA arrangement came to an end on 30th September. No surprises, the ex, decided to start a CMS claim, meaning her £294 a month that I pay, will rise to £460. I have 3 young boys at home and that is roughly 25% of my net income. Now she is also lying about the days I have my daughters which is easily 110 days a year, so that she can get the even higher band of £560 a month, even though I have told her that £560 will screw me and my family financially. To be clear, I am happy to pay £460 a month….CMS said that if they have to ultimately decide they will take her word for it and not mine….f******* outrageous. A few years ago, she was in a car crash (her fault) put my kids in hospital……..a month after coming out of hospital, she put a new claim in and bought a car to replace the one she had written off. She has now jacked her job in to go to college, doesnt need to work with the money she;s getting off me.. I get absolutely no say in my daughters upbringing, education etc and has told me only to ever contact her if it’s an emergency………….I f****** hate her, thank god I only have 3 years left…..the system definitely favours the receiving parent (99% women I reckon) rant over

  6. Gavin briscoe on October 16th, 2016 12:49 am

    What happened to equal rights. In my eyes this ismore sexest than anything ever the law needs to be changed

  7. Luke on October 18th, 2016 10:31 am

    I am absolutely disgusted by the way they treat fathers in this “organisation” meant for “Helping” people. I had been contacted through a Deductions from Earnings Order to my workplace which first of all caused a huge amount of embarrassment but most importantly the letter itself had been addressed to an old address which I had never received, nobody had contacted me about this whatsoever.

    The fact I hadn’t even known about my daughter for the past 8 1/2 years apparently is beside the point in their eyes, the fact i’m not on the birth certificate is irrelevant to them also and that my current outgoings are far mar than the amount they are demanding that I pay, £364 p/m.

    The miscommunication is absolutely staggering considering the extremely precious circumstances surrounding the situation. Nothing more than bully Debt Collecters disguised as “advisers and mediators”. The law is completely biased in favor of the mother and the power ultimately lies with her. I now face being made homeless, jobless and with no means to support my own child that I had known nothing about for the past 8 years or so.
    This is an absolute joke and they are easily contributing to a suicidal increase in males, me potentially being one of them, and they seem completely unwilling to listen or reason to anything.

    I eventually came to a Family Based Arrangement with the mother which was settled amicably and peacefully with prospects looking good, that was until CMS contacted her and completely misled and construed the information that they had and this ultimately lead to the relationship and arrangement breaking down. I have spoken to 7 different people in CMS, one person named Rachel categorically telling me that the case was settled and everything would be removed from my employer, I requested that she contact the Mother to let her know this has all been settled and then all of a sudden I receive a torrent of abuse from her telling me that CMA have told her something completely different.

    Not only have I now paid her £164.00 as agreed upon a Family Arrangement, but CMS are now telling me they are still continuing with the Deduction from Earning Order which is going to leave me in a crippling debt. I cannot pay my rent or my living bills. I have no extravagant expenses and yet they couldn’t care less.

    I have also been researching everywhere to see where a Father can go for advice and low and behold, nothing. Mothers advice is in abundance, but fathers? Think again!

    This whole system is absolutely corrupt, tarring every dad with the same brush of a few that do in fact do runners. Sexist springs to mind quite heavily. If I was to treat someone in a religion the same way they treat Males it would be spread all across the news and be absolute uproar.

    This law needs to change, and fast. I will be doing everything I can to appeal this and also seek legal advice on how I can take this further through the courts. Equal Rights? I think not.

  8. P mann on October 24th, 2016 7:56 am

    Fathers moaning and groaning about how much you pay to support your children. You are deluded. When your child lives with mother and is sick do you lose a days or weeks money taking time off? No . You always have it easy! If you share a child you should share your wages and Stop complaining!!!

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