pissed off
Member
Please be aware http://www.afairercsaforall.co.uk was set up by two people who worked for the csa.they contradict themselves.when giving advice to the nrp they say one thing and when giving advice to the parent with the children they say something else.I belive they are in it for themselves.
afairercsaforall.co.uk
Member
LOL, oh dear 'pissed off' where have you got your info from?
I can categorically state, it's incorrect!! But, please feel free to publish your evidence - Im sure we are ALL interested.
Quote; 'I believe they are in it for themselves'
Really? Perhaps you think we make a fortune out of all the membership fee's and contributions that we DO NOT charge !!
pissed off
Member
i have been into your forum via a coleague.What i found was alot of contradictions.Dont get me wrong anyone who is fighting the csa is doing the right thing but i wasnt particualy impressed with your site having checked out everything thats on the web.I think the thing that turned me off the most was your attack on another organisation.i found it inappropriate bearing in mind your both fighting the same battle.I can accept your opinion on tactics but to be honest the only thing that changes gouverments minds are extreme measures.Take the pole tax riots for example.I cant see that your site gives any real hope of changing most nrp situations.i accept its good for people to feel there not alone but what most victims want is the belife that there is some real hope that they can get out of the situation theyre in.Surely if their tactics work it is a good thing and if they dont, then at least they tried.The one thing you cant deny is the amount of corruption they have found in the csa and the court system and i belive its only a matter of time before that knowledge becomes mainstream.I would of found your site much more appealing had that attack not been on there.Also you say that nrp could rack up alot of debt by trying these untested methods.This could be true but i would be inclined to think that most nrp have enougth intelligence to make that assumption themselves.Thats presuming they could meet the payments in the first place!!!.There is alot of information on the web about your site and it mostly was negative im afraid.Of course this is only my personal opinion.I would hope that people looking for help would do what i did and scour the web for information and decide for themselves but i stand by my comments in my previous post especially concerning the contradictions.
afairercsaforall.co.uk
Member
Obviously your entitled to your opinion. Im my opinion the initial post here, coincides with the detrimental posts made about Michael on CSAhell.
The site you refer, just like yourself, make unfounded accusations and comments against AFCSAFA founders, which despite standing by, never offer anything as proof! Also perhaps go even further, as they slate others also, including NACSA and CSAhell have also been slated and recently from another party - all connected? I would say so! and very much of a muchness of the site you defend.
Personally, I find a majority of parents, whether NRP's or PWC, who come looking for help, wish for their cases to be dealt with by the agency in a correct, lawful manner - obviously those that want to be part of biased 'extreme measures' WILL need to go elsewhere, as AFCSAFA does not exist for such purpose.
Hopefully, if you decide to spread anymore vindictive rumours, you will back it up with solid proof - otherwise what success do you expect, your trying to make a point!
Michael - CSAhell.com staff
Anti-CSA Warrior
What did he say about Michael on CSAhell? I missed that one.
afairercsaforall.co.uk
Member
pissed off
Member
you seem a little paronoid.The post about michael on csahell is something of which i know nothing of but ill check it out.Do you not find it hypocritical that you dont like things put out about your site yet you blatently slate others.As for defending a site i dont belive i am.Im not affiliated to any site i simply have looked at all the facts and information before me and come to my conclusions.For a group representing nrp and pwc you seem naive when you say that most people prefer to have there case dealt with by the agency in a correct lawful manner.As you should well know this is not happening,Which is why your site exists.The csa and court system acts in an unlawful and discriminating way.Why do you call others extremists?. They are not letting off bombs or causing riots or acts of violence.They are simply trying in a lawful way to bring the csa to book.How are they extremists??Why dont you let everyone here know your credentials.Tell us in your words what your doing for nrp or pwc.Seems strange as well that you posted nrp problems on this site as if someone was asking for help but is in fact yourselves.Very strange thing to do.You either did it to advertise yourselves or perhaps you really dont have any answears.One final thing dont try to smear me by saying about this michael thing on csahell as i know nothing about that but i am aware that your organisation does do alot of smearing.I would advise anyone reading this to have a look around on the net and your see what i mean.Theres also the contradictions i was talking about saying my accusations need proof and clearly not liking it but at the same time making accusations yourselves without proof.
afairercsaforall.co.uk
Member
Quote 'pissed off'; Why do you call others extremists?.
5th line down in your last post you stated 'extreme measures' - I quoted you!
Well 'pissed off' I really havent got time for this, my listening ear and caring heart have ceased to be interested. I have little time for those that mis quote - Perhaps when you've made up your mind when, where and what our job roles were when we supposedly worked for the CSA, you would be good enough to let us know.
BTW - founders of both AFCSAFA and DBDA, all started off on the same CSA forum approx 3yrs ago, looking for help and advice with their own cases. SO, perhaps you dont know quite as much as you believe you do and are maybe a little mis guided.
Michael - CSAhell.com staff
Anti-CSA Warrior
And yes, missed that. Thanks. 'pissed off' definately isn't flint on that page. 'pissed off' can spell, flint is a moron.
pissed off
Member
How can saying extreme measures make me an extremist.What a ridicolous thing to say.I am a law abiding citizen who has no criminal record.Nor would i wish to ever have one.Again why do you call others extremists when they are acting within the law and as for the poll tax riots its fact that the gouverment sat up and took notice.It doesnt mean i agree with it though.I personaly would only be involved in anything that was lawful.Thankyou admin i only wish my spelling was as good as it used to be.
markeymark
Member
original post is a load of crap, ive had lots of useful advice and help whilst on afairercsaforall
cant praise them enough
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