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<title>CSA advice forum: Recent Posts</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:00:25 +0000</pubDate>

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<title>ProDelgado on "Should i tell them?"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/should-i-tell-them#post-550</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ProDelgado</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;At the minute, the only way they'd know about your second job would be if either you or your ex told them...if they get told where your other job is then they'll investigate your circumstances, and if they have no luck then they will contact Inland Revenue, who will tell them which company (or companies) make tax and NI contributions in your name.
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<title>ProDelgado on "on call payments (IT worker)"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/on-call-payments-it-worker#post-549</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ProDelgado</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Are you self-employed, or employed? How often are you paid, monthly?  The CSA will probably take an average of your income from the two months prior to your case being set up.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;You should really give them information about any of your income earned, they'll discuss any discrepancies with you, and may contact your employer to confirm any higher or lower payslips, but if you're up front with them you could also say that it's not guaranteed, and then if you stop getting on-call work then you need to call them as soon as it happens for them to reassess you.
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<title>jaynechunk13 on "Should i tell them?"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/should-i-tell-them#post-548</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>jaynechunk13</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;During a recent assessment,my caseworker advised me to quit a second job i have in an effort to reduce the amount i had to pay each month.I ditched the second job only to find the difference was minimal.I now find im going to be in financial hell if i cannot get more income coming in.If i resume the second job will the csa find out about it,or do they only know what we tell them about.This second job involves tax and national insurance on a payslip.
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<title>lolalola1234 on "on call payments (IT worker)"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/on-call-payments-it-worker#post-547</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 00:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>lolalola1234</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;hi guys&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;am in the process of sorting my csa payments out. im just wondering, i do on call, which nets me a total of 200 pound after tax for 1 weeks on call. i usually an on call week once a month. it is not a permanent fixture though, i may miss out on it. and obviously, i do not want the csa to take into account my on call payments which aren't fixed.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;do i need to declare this? if so how do i go about to get my best interets?
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<title>ProDelgado on "Ex Self Employed Non Payment"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/ex-self-employed-non-payment#post-546</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ProDelgado</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Self-employed cases are the worst possible, next time you speak to the CSA tell them that you would like to speak to someone with regards to putting in a claim for variations, as the NRP's lifestyle is inconsistent with his alleged income.  They will hopefully investigate things further for you.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>ProDelgado on "Contacting employer &#038; chaning offices"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/contacting-employer-038-chaning-offices#post-545</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ProDelgado</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;It's down to their computer systems, your case will first sit with a New Client Team, until the initial assessment has been carried out...after that, it will go to a Client Services team, who are generally responsible for the area where the NRP lives.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Best thing to do is work out roughly what 15% of your income is, and set it aside every week until the assessment is all made official.
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<title>ProDelgado on "Will the CSA tell me when my payments stop?"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/will-the-csa-tell-me-when-my-payments-stop#post-544</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ProDelgado</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;It all depends what your daughter's circumstances are, if she remains in certain types of education then you may have to continue paying up until her 19th birthday.  The CSA will only assess or reassess based on you contacting them, so if I was you I would call them now and say you're not sure if your daughter is in education or if she has left school...if she leaves school at any point after 16 then the case should close.
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<title>ProDelgado on "parent with care is overseas"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/parent-with-care-is-overseas#post-543</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ProDelgado</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;(I think the board ate my answer).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;How long are you going to be living in Egypt, do you intend to stay there permanently?  It's a bit of a grey area, technically the CSA can only deal with cases where the clients are habitually resident in the UK, they don't have jurisdiction elsewhere, so if you have moved to Egypt and are going to live there forever then there's a good chance that the CSA will close the case.
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<title>ProDelgado on "Future Gross Income Scheme - what is gross income?"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/future-gross-income-scheme-what-is-gross-income#post-542</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ProDelgado</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Unfortunately they've still not announced any information about this future scheme, so no-one knows how the maintenance calculation will be worked out yet.
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<title>ProDelgado on "change of income"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/change-of-income#post-541</link>
<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ProDelgado</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;They can't - they should have started a change of circumstances as soon as you called them, and will contact your employer, who can confirm that you have left them.  You may have to provide proof that you are going to Uni, an enrolment letter or something like that.  If they tell you that you have to pay for 20 weeks then call back and hopefully you'll get through to someone who knows their job, as the person who advised you that obviously didn't.
&#60;/p&#62;</description>
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<title>Average Joe on "Will  C.S.A  Know if i have part time  job?"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/will-csa-know-if-i-have-part-time-job#post-540</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 18:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Average Joe</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;At the end of the tax year then yes. However, the CSA would likely very quickly find you through any NI, which you don't pay. As for tax, I'm not sure what information is recorded and so how soon they could find out off them. Do you not even want to pay the 5 pounds per week for your child?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Did you tell the Job Centre where you are starting work? If so, the CSA will find out off them if they want to.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Regards
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<title>tango on "contact details"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/contact-details#post-539</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 13:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>tango</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;does anyone know the email address for stephen geraghty (csa chief exec)? all my letters/phone calls are being ignored!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;please help!
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<title>cjp0349 on "Housing Allowance NRP"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/housing-allowance-nrp#post-538</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>cjp0349</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Can anyone out there give me an answer to this before I get into another endless round of unanswered letters. I have recently moved home to a house that although I am joint owner of and pay all the council tax and utility bills I am not on the mortgage because I still own and pay the mortgage on my previous home which is currently empty and up for sale. I have informed the CSA of this and other changes in circumstances which has resulted in them reassessing me as having no housing costs whatsoever and bunging up my payments accordingly.&#60;br /&#62;
Is this right and if so how do I &#34;get around this&#34; so that I can claim at least some allowance on my new home to help soften the blow until my old house sells and I can get on the mortgage at my new address.&#60;br /&#62;
Any advice will be greatfully received. I've been going through the nightmare of being an easy target NRP for over 14 years, it just gets worse and often feels that there is just nothing you can do about It. Hopefully I'll find some help here.&#60;br /&#62;
Regards&#60;br /&#62;
Carl
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<title>tom1sg on "Arrears Reinstated"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/arrears-reinstated#post-537</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>tom1sg</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Received a threatening letter from the CSA a few days ago. This was out of the blue as l had made all payments due to my daughter, who is now 29 years old. They are now saying that i owe them £1690.81 in missed child maintenance payments and need to pay what l owe now and threatening to take me to court. They also ask that l pay by credid/debit card over the phone.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There saying that this money is owed over a period going back to 1993- 1994. They claim that at the time this so called arrear was not collectsable at the time, however they have now decided that l must pay this amount. I have paid my Ex wife all the maintenance that was required of me without any trouble. In fact it was my Ex who contacted me to inform me that she had a letter from the CSA explaining that l owed this amount, she was disgusted and contacted me straight away stating that she would not be contacting the CSA asking for this money.
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<title>Nicolai on "Feel trapped and need help"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/feel-trapped-and-need-help#post-536</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Nicolai</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Indeego has already given you great advice - don't panic!!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The CSA will ask if you think you are the father, you say no, then they will offer you a DNA test and ask if you would be prepared to pay for it - say yes to both of these questions, get yourself to you local doctors and give a DNA sample - you may not be the father.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Try to look at the situation a little differently too - you say you have missed the opportunity to have the child aborted/adopted... In reality, you never had these options in the first place, as the child was inside another person, and she has a mind of her own - she clearly didn't want to get rid of the child did she?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Finally, if you are the father, stop this selfish talk of topping yourself, man up, treat it like one of lifes happy accidents, and become involved in your child's life - it may be the greatest mistake you ever made! And so what if you have to pay for your child, you should wear that as a badge of honour that you are able to love and support your child, giving it the best possible chance in life!
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<title>Nicolai on "HELP PLEASE!"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/help-please-2#post-535</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Nicolai</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi Mallyman,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm afraid this isn't going to be good news for you, however it needn't be terrible, you just have to understand what may happen..&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;First of all, if you are not sure the child is yours, you are going to need a DNA test, find out which office your case is at, then call and write to that office pointing out that you asked for a DNA test in the first instance, and you have moved address and not recieved the letters they sent (They will say you should of told them you were moving) This is not going to be easy, so you need to write to them and also send copies to the Chief Exec of the CSA, and the complaints department, showing that you mean business. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If the CSA still refuse to give you the DNA test as it has been 5 years since the case began, you need to speak to the mother and arrange it between yourselves, and pay for it yourself (About £300 as it needs to be with a company the CSA recognise, ie: Cellmark). Hopefully you can get your ex partner to agree to this.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;One final thing, if you are the father, you are going to have arrears back-dated to 2005, and that will be a whole different kettle of fish.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Good luck!
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<title>Nicolai on "New Job after being on JSA"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/new-job-after-being-on-jsa#post-534</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Nicolai</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Just to add to the good advice from Indeego, as your partner is on a low wage, your maintenance payments will not be worked out on the basic 15%, 20%, 25% system. They will used what is called a reduced rate calculator. They do not disclose this as it is much more complicated and only confuses matters, but it will mean you will probably pay less that £20 per week. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;They will back date this to when your partner informed them he had started work, so you have done well to put away the money, because they will ask for it! It will not go back to the time he was on JSA.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Good luck!
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<title>Nicolai on "CSA issue"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/csa-issue#post-533</link>
<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Nicolai</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi there,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm not sure the average person on the street can just find out if someone has been adopted or not. The best thing to do is say to the CSA that you think the child has been legally adopted by the woman's new husband, and they will investigate further. If the child has been legally adopted, your friend will not have to pay, as he is no longer considered the legal father.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;However.. It is unlikely that he has adopted the child, what is much more likely is that they have married and the child has simply taken his name. In this case your friend will have to pay for the child, regardless of wether he sees the child or not.
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<title>Indeego on "what to expect"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/what-to-expect#post-532</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Indeego</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Okay this is all quite simple really.  Given your current situation and not changing anything that is currently in place with the standing order you will be paying for the 1 child through CSA at 15% of net after the child that lives with you is taken into account which means they will not use 15% (rising to 20% on birth of your new child as there will be 2 children living in your household) of your net as part of the calculation.  So CSA will calculate based upon £295.80 per week of your income, payment to the one child will be at 15% of £295 = £44.37 per week with that child staying no nights.&#60;br /&#62;
Other payments made out side of CSA will not come into the equation, nor will any other child being paid for be brought into the count. Essentially making this a simple one child calculation.&#60;br /&#62;
Also the payments will be from the day the claim has been made, not since the child was born, so there will not be 10 years of back pay.&#60;br /&#62;
You can continue with paying the one through CSA and the other two standing order.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;On the other hand you can pay all 3 through CSA (not sure if the mother of the other 2 has to make the claim or if you can put in for payment, bearing in mind that in this case the mother will be getting less, as explained below) which will work out currently at 25% of your net after the 15% is removed so in total for all 3 you will pay 25% of £295 = £73.75 per week (this is the top end figure and would be reduced with the number of nights having the 2 children, which is slightly more complex as it is not all children staying so CSA will advise on that).  This will go to the CSA and they will pay your first child at 1/3 of this ie. £24.58 per week and the other two at £49.16 per week (although reduced due to the number of nights they stay with you).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I hope that goes someway to clarifying your situation and please bear in mind these are projected figures and not 100% accurate, but to give a good idea of your position.
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<title>jango on "what to expect"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/what-to-expect#post-531</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>jango</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;hi folks, get comfy... make a brew...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;right here is my situation ... i have a child who is 10 with a girl who was a one stand, she wanted nothing from me and i didnt want to know at the time.... i then met someone and settled down and had 2 children with her... that relationship ended after her unfaithfullness after 7 years... i am now with my present partner and she is due to give birth to my fourth child in 2 weeks time , she also has another child from a previous marriage that lives with us who is autistic.... now i currently have my 2 children from my previous relationship stay with me at least twice a week and they also stay with my mum once or twice a week (still in the care of my family not hers)... we have an agreement between us in that i pay her £250 per month for the kids (which is half of the rent on her house so the kids have somewhere to stay)... this is done via a standing order and is completely traceable... now today i have found out that the mother of my first child has now decided to contact the csa after finding out i have another child on the way.... i have not had contact with my first child regularly for basically 10 years, she never wanted anything from me and was happy that i wasnt in his life ... but she did contact the csa when he was born when things were really bad between us...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;so basically what im looking for is how much im looking at paying ?&#60;br /&#62;
10 years worth of backpay?&#60;br /&#62;
and what will i pay for normal payments based upon my circumstances with a £348 a week wage after tax etc.&#60;br /&#62;
will my other children be taken into account and will i have to pay for them through the csa aswell now they are involved, even if we have a traceable agreement ?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;i know this all sounds like something from the jeremy kyle show... but its all real life... iv never been on benifits or anything like that and always worked and paved my own way... just that things are already really tight financially and i just want to see what im gonna be looking at.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;iv tried the csa's online calculator thing but it doesnt give enough options to cover my situation&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;thanks for any help and advice in advance
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<title>shelbygt on "CSA issue"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/csa-issue#post-530</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>shelbygt</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;A friend of mine is going through this situation,Ive tried googling information about it but have come up with nothing.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Basically, my friend got someone pregnant about 8 years ago,the mother of the child said she wanting nothing to do with him and refused to let him see his child. Cut off all contact with him. Now fastforward to a few months ago, she comes back into the picture stating she now wants him to pay her CSA but is still refusing to let him see the child. however, there is reason to believe that her new husband has adopted the child since the child is now going by her husbands surname. In the UK, if the birth father has no parental rights or doesnt see the child,the mother does not need to get permission from him for the child to be adopted by the new husband.&#60;br /&#62;
I've been trying to google records to see if the child was adopted but cant find anything. Does anyone know how my friend can obtain these records?&#60;br /&#62;
The CSA keeps harassing him,he feels he should not have to pay CSA for a child that he isnt allowed to see and a child that is possibly adopted by another man. Anyone know where he stands on this?
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<title>Indeego on "Help,new to CSA 2 kids 2 mothers"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/helpnew-to-csa-2-kids-2-mothers#post-529</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Indeego</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Easiest and cheapest way is to go through the CSA for both. Basically for 2 kids you will pay 20% of net = £68 and the CSA will split that evenly between the two kids so each will get £34.  If you pay one by private agreement and one with CSA, the CSA will not count the amount you pay by private agreement, so you will be paying say £30 to one parent and then will be charged 15% of net for the one other child = £51, which is a total of £81. Also the amount with CSA may be reduced if you have the children overnight, but that depends on how often.&#60;br /&#62;
Her income from benefits will not be considered in any of this, nor will it be affected.  On another note if she is working cash in hand that is tax evasion and benefit fraud no matter what goes on with the CSA and maintenance payments.&#60;br /&#62;
Providing you are honest with the CSA and give them all the details they should come back with the weekly amount and if you are paying regular as required you should not have any hassle with them.  The horror stories you hear are when they start to mis calculate (which happens a lot) and rack up arrears.&#60;br /&#62;
Best of luck.
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<title>tels on "Help,new to CSA 2 kids 2 mothers"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/helpnew-to-csa-2-kids-2-mothers#post-528</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>tels</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Another thing also.She doesnt really work and is on benefits and basically milks the system and im wondering if her income comes into it ? as i know she works every weekend for cash in hand and i dont wanna bring that up but if she is gonna screw me then it may be my only option
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<title>tels on "Help,new to CSA 2 kids 2 mothers"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/helpnew-to-csa-2-kids-2-mothers#post-527</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>tels</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi,i have a 6 year old son to an old partner who i have payed £50 per week without fail every week since he was born.I have just split from my last partner and we have a child who is 3 and because she knows i was paying my ex £50 per week sh has demanded that too,which i have been paying for the last 6 weeks.But i am looking for a new place to live and just cant afford to pay £100 per week eg £400 per month for both these kids.&#60;br /&#62;
So i told them i was going to have to put the money down to £30 a week at least until i get myself back on my feet.My last partner actually agreed to this and understands my situation.However GROTBAGS my 1st partner is having none of it and has the CSA onto me.I am on £340 a week net pay and im wondering how much i will be deducted and if its better to have one with a private agreement or both go through the CSA ??? As i need to do the cheapest option,i dunno maybe someone is on the same boat as me and can help as im getting really really stressed as all i seem to hear is horror stories about the CSA.&#60;br /&#62;
Any help would be of great help to me
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<title>madman99 on "Will  C.S.A  Know if i have part time  job?"</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;After 2 yrs of hell on the dole i have finally landed a small  part  time  job that pays 100 quid a week.  Hooray!!&#60;br /&#62;
Anyhow,because i was a self employed roofer before hand i wasnt entitled to JSA  (bastard gov) so my girlfriend has supported me through all  this  hell.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Anyhoo.....the main point is....now i earn 100 quid a  week will i show up on the CSA  radar?  because my earnings are so low i dont pay any income tax of national insurance.....so any info would be greatly apprieciated.
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<title>Indeego on "change of income"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/change-of-income#post-525</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Indeego</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I do not see why they should ask that you continue to pay the set amount when you are not earning? I would keep pestering them for justification for such things, particularly why it should be payment for a further 20 weeks, it is not uncommon for them to &#34;bully&#34; people into payments in order for them to keep their targets up. Get them to provide the guidelines or policies for such circumstances, as if your income were to go up as of tomorrow the change would take effect immediately, so why should it be any different when going down?
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<title>Indeego on "How to stop my ex wife to play CSA system  on me"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/how-to-stop-my-ex-wife-to-play-csa-system-on-me#post-524</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Indeego</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I have some experience of what you are talking about, I did indeed sign over our large house to my ex through the threat of if not she would be moving away with the children, and unfortunately it forms no part of the calculation for maintenance unless it was part of the court divorce proceedings tied in with many other things.&#60;br /&#62;
Unfortunately and I do feel for you here is that once CSA is in touch it is payable, the only means of reducing the amount is by your ex cancelling it and agreeing to a private arrangement of a lesser amount (sounds unlikely) or you earn less.  Maintenance is not means tested, so even if your ex was a millionaire and you earn minimum wage, you would stil be paying the set amount, and it does create difficulties.  In terms of the distance that is also difficult, but that can be used in requesting a variation of the amount of maintenance, in that it costs more than £10 a week in travel in order to see the children, which is the first thing to do with the CSA, let them know this and apply for a variation, which will reduce the amount. Unfortunately the CSA is not there for the support of parenting by both parents, but apparently is to protect them from child poverty, which means the concerns of not being able to see your children due to the cost and distance of travel will fall on deaf ears.&#60;br /&#62;
I know there may seem to be many unfortunatelys in here, but it would seem applying for a variation is the only means of reducing the amount short of reducing your overall income.  I will also say though please take heart in the fact you are certainly not alone in your plight and there are many many more like you, and use various websites for support and strength which can be very helpful ongoing.&#60;br /&#62;
Best of luck
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<title>Indeego on "New Job after being on JSA"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/new-job-after-being-on-jsa#post-523</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Indeego</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;You may or may not have had your proper calculation but based on what you have said the situation may not be as dour as you may think.&#60;br /&#62;
The basic rules for calculation are based on the number of children involved which in this case is 1, so they will take only 15% of net income, BUT there are currently 2 and as of February will be 3 other children in your household, that means that currently the first 20% of net income will not be considered, rising to 25% when the third child arrives.  What this means based on £12k a year which is about £230 a week gross, and based on an average of 25% of that going to income tax and NI there will be about £173 per week net income, currently of which 20% should not be included which leaves £138 for calculating, and at 15% for the one child is £20.70 a week. (Please note these are theoretical figures based on general tax info for demonstration).&#60;br /&#62;
All these calculations should be provided to demonstrate how the figure is obtained.&#60;br /&#62;
As for back pay, if the minimum amount of £5 was being taken from JSA every week I do not see what arrears there could be, they can't claim £40 week back pay when earning only JSA at the time.&#60;br /&#62;
It sounds like your partner has been honest throughout and you have been sensible with putting aside some money, so I do hope you are now all sorted and/or this is of some sense and support so best of luck.
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<title>Indeego on "Question on csa"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/question-on-csa#post-522</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Indeego</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi, unfortunately the £10 fee for release of data is the norm and I would consider paying via postal order, but it should provide you with details you are asking about such as their reasons for considering you the father. At the same time and again unfortuntaly you are in fact guilty until proven innocent, the CSA can and do assume parentage based on the word of another, best thing to do is go for a DNA test and verify for sure if you are or are not the father.&#60;br /&#62;
As for the manner and dealings of the CSA, I'm afraid that is them through and through with only the very occasional reasonable dealing/person.
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<title>Indeego on "Feel trapped and need help"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/feel-trapped-and-need-help#post-521</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Indeego</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Okay, first off don't panic.  Best thing to do is verify you are the father, this can be done via a DNA test, which is payable unfortunately, but if it does come out that you are not the father then that is the end of it and you will have nothing more to pay or need dealings with the CSA.&#60;br /&#62;
If you are the father then the mother is entitled to claim for CSA, but the back payment is only calculated from the date the CSA received a claim from the parent with care, not from the date the child was born, so if it is a case of the claim only just arriving to CSA on Monday that will be the start date.&#60;br /&#62;
If it is proven you are the father and have to pay maintenance, please do consider your options rather than considering this is the wort case scenario, if you are the father consider obtaining contact with your child and be part of their life perhaps.
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<title>jaynechunk13 on "Question on csa"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/question-on-csa#post-512</link>
<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 17:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi everybody ,can anyone tell me this.If i work a second job apart from my main job,will the csa know about it through the tax system.Or will they only know about it if i declare it.
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<title>muttley on "doesnt claim benefits and the tax man says he's not working!!!"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/doesnt-claim-benefits-and-the-tax-man-says-hes-not-working#post-511</link>
<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 01:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;is my ex living on thin air? After taking 5 years to get a penny from him through the csa, he stops working and goes on benefits. He stopped getting benefits earlier this year so what do they think he is living off as the tax man says he isnt paying tax so cant be working?? Another cash in hand job I guess. So now I wait for yet another pointless Liability Order.They say that because he hasnt informed them of a change, his assessment is still at £39/wk SO HOW HAPPY AM I TO BE GETTING THIS IMAGINARY AMOUNT EACH MONTH?!!&#60;br /&#62;
They didnt even bother to tell me he had stopped working, the only letter Ive had from them this year is to say he was on long term sickpay (his name on the letter was DEFINATELY not my childs fathers name)&#60;br /&#62;
He refuses to answer their security questions when they call him so they cant even ask him what he's playing at....skip the security and tell him what I think of him plz
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<title>Trapped on "Feel trapped and need help"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/feel-trapped-and-need-help#post-510</link>
<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 02:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;I had been involved with a girl last year in january. A few months later the girl ended up pregnant(I don't remember the exact month). I had stopped seeing that girl the third week of january, so I was pretty confident I wasn't the kid's dad, but I asked her just in case we needed to make plans for an abortion/adoption. Girl said it wasn't mine, and to &#34;do the math&#34; regarding the months. I no longer have this email she sent as I thought it was over. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Fast forward to a few days ago, she has someone contact me through email as I cut off all traces of contact with her. This leads to a heated confrontation that comes to a head yesterday where the girl has this other person send me an email saying I'm the kids dad, and that she's coming after me for back child support for refusing to help her. I got into it with her over the phone(she sent her number for me to call her), and she mocked me saying even if I refused to pay I'd just end up in jail and she'd get &#34;her money&#34;. She gave me the child support agency case worker's number to call them, and I called that lady named Sydney, and she told me I had to wait until monday for the girl to submit the application, but she told me even if the application is submitted that doesn't automatically mean I'd be forced to pay support, and the case could still get thrown out.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm just freaking out about this as if I am the dad she would have robbed me of the chance to get an abortion or set up an adoption, and then get back child support from me for being a &#34;deadbeat&#34;. What can I do short of offing myself if worst comes to worst and she's able to get the child support?
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<title>mallyman on "HELP PLEASE!"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/help-please-2#post-509</link>
<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 23:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi All,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I am trying to sort an issue out with the CSA as they claim that I'm a non compliant parent.  In Dec '05 they sent me a letter advising me a claim has been placed that I'm the father of a child.  I instantly called them and disputed the claim and asked for a DNA test as well as confirmation of the name on the birth certificate for the father.  The CSA agent in 2005 said this would need to be checked and they would come back to me with any further action required from myself if they need to proceed.  It reached June '06 and nothing came from them and I moved out. Having not heard anything from the CSA I assumed that the issue was finished.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I am now told that I am classed as non compliant as they now decide to contact me again but now claim to have had no communication initially so won't assist with a DNA test or look into the birth certificate details.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I attempted to speak with the Citizens Advice Bureau about this and they say it is beyond their remit of support and that they won't help.  As you can imagine, I am struggling to see a way to get help as the CSA only want the money and go back on their word, CAB won't help as it's too much for them and I can't afford to organise a solicitor.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I keep getting swapped from person to person at the CSA and keep explaining my story and each person changes on what they say my options are. The most positive I got from one phone call was to be told that if I could prove when I left the old house that they would look on me as not ignoring their letters and would help me sort out DNA testing. I went away and got the proof paying the letting company for a copy of my records and rang CSA today to be told that this wouldnt help me.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Can anyone offer any words of advice or offer any advice from experience?  It would be much appreciated.
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<title>orderforsale on "HELP ME PLEASE 13th JULY ORDER OF SALE  - TOMORROW"</title>
<link>http://www.csahell.com/forums/topic/help-me-please-13th-july-order-of-sale-tomorrow#post-508</link>
<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 15:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>orderforsale</dc:creator>
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<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi&#60;br /&#62;
Just read your post - sorry this is late.  How did you get on?&#60;br /&#62;
I used a solicitor for this - you can lose your home if not.  Even if they made the order, get in touch with this chap, his firm is the only one in the country that defend these actions: &#60;a href=&#34;mailto:kalvin.chapman@atmsolicitors.com&#34;&#62;kalvin.chapman@atmsolicitors.com&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;good luck
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