Comments on: CSA demand Five Thousand Pounds from me http://www.csahell.com/csa-demand-five-thousand-pounds-from-me-190.html Child Support Agency Advice and Complaints Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:38:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Andy Vickers http://www.csahell.com/csa-demand-five-thousand-pounds-from-me-190.html/comment-page-1#comment-918 Andy Vickers Mon, 13 Jul 2009 09:26:16 +0000 http://www.csahell.com/?p=190#comment-918 I can only sympathise strongly with you in this matter, having had similar dealings with them , My first marriage broke up with the ex-wifes infidelity and our only daughter of 18months was awarded maintenance of £20 per week with no maintenance for her mother/ex wife.this was in 1991. This was as she was on all the benefits she could claim etc single parent family(her choice).This equated to £86 per month. any more would be deducted from her benefits.needless to say there were things purchased and extra monies given but without the knowledge of the DSS which suited her fine Then a letter dropped on the doormat stating that i must pay £86 per week~the CSA had gotten involved(still in its infancy stage) . nothing I could do or say could lower the amount infact every phone call resulted in stress and shouting and an increase of the amount! I tried paying less, they slapped a DEO on me, i changed jobs 3 times but they still DEO`d me. I was overseas for 6 months working and stopped paying them. as soon as i came back they DEO`d me again , The arrears mounted up to over £12k from their calculations~not even concerned now how they have worked it out it was hard work enough.The thing was a vicious circle in order to pay them and live and pay the debts left over from the marriage and the divorce costs/settlement etc (you get the picture) i was increasingly doing more and more overtime .I was paying over £550 per month for 12 months at 1 stage. The only thing i could do was to stop working extra, get the company to bank my overtime and extra pay for 3 months(at the start of the Tax year) so i had minimal earnings showing against my NI number and put my low slips in for a re-assessment. They only brought it down to the figure they initially wanted and i thought well thats better than I can get without stopping working altogether(i have always worked)So after paying their requirements plus an amount towards the arrears by DEO, after 7 years did i manage to convince them to remove the DEO on the understanding that i will continue to pay them...or else.....DEO..... This enabled me to move house as i could get out of my negative equity home(big in the 90`s) remarry and have some more children.......! I never managed to hold down a relationship for 12 yrs due to the CSA and stress /grief caused, I lost any contact with my daughter(21 in september) haven't seen her for 14 years again to the CSA. With the old system i was a complete expert on which payment of which part of the applied formula(at the time) enabled me to a reduction of the carer element, at different stages i.e. birthdays. At her 19th birthday i stopped my payment of £240+pounds a month, to be written to within a week saying a DEO was going to be applied......WOW at last some efficiency , i was really impressed. I rang them on my mobile to play the merry-go- round of which department, CAST team,which branch and who was finally allowed to deal with me to ......... They said that the payment would be carried on at the present rate to clear the arrears within 12 months..Ballcocks to that. I said that after i moved house and all the increased costs etc i managed to arrange the payment towards my arrears to £30 per month which they almost quite happily settled for because at the time they were being ripped apart by the media etc.. I had £5k remaining to pay off my arrears an offered to pay them in full with a clearing payment. They declined stating the policy is due to government blah blah. So i offered to pay th £30 per month and they would only settle for £60 per month minimum payment, the reason being the arrears would drag on...ha chuffing ha. Well after nearly 20 years of this crap you tend to become a little hardened and very cynical/sarcastic .either that or you get ill, go daft or in extreme circumstances ..well we know what they cause don't we. my final payment is Oct 09 , in the wise words of HOMER.....WOO-HOO!! My thoughts are with you and your family. The only way is to pay -it was a lesson i have learn`t the hard way Andy Vickers Telford Shropshire CSA Veteran 1991-2009 I can only sympathise strongly with you in this matter, having had similar dealings with them , My first marriage broke up with the ex-wifes infidelity and our only daughter of 18months was awarded maintenance of £20 per week with no maintenance for her mother/ex wife.this was in 1991. This was as she was on all the benefits she could claim etc single parent family(her choice).This equated to £86 per month. any more would be deducted from her benefits.needless to say there were things purchased and extra monies given but without the knowledge of the DSS which suited her fine
Then a letter dropped on the doormat stating that i must pay £86 per week~the CSA had gotten involved(still in its infancy stage) .
nothing I could do or say could lower the amount infact every phone call resulted in stress and shouting and an increase of the amount! I tried paying less, they slapped a DEO on me, i changed jobs 3 times but they still DEO`d me. I was overseas for 6 months working and stopped paying them. as soon as i came back they DEO`d me again , The arrears mounted up to over £12k from their calculations~not even concerned now how they have worked it out it was hard work enough.The thing was a vicious circle in order to pay them and live and pay the debts left over from the marriage and the divorce costs/settlement etc (you get the picture) i was increasingly doing more and more overtime .I was paying over £550 per month for 12 months at 1 stage. The only thing i could do was to stop working extra, get the company to bank my overtime and extra pay for 3 months(at the start of the Tax year) so i had minimal earnings showing against my NI number and put my low slips in for a re-assessment. They only brought it down to the figure they initially wanted and i thought well thats better than I can get without stopping working altogether(i have always worked)So after paying their requirements plus an amount towards the arrears by DEO, after 7 years did i manage to convince them to remove the DEO on the understanding that i will continue to pay them…or else…..DEO…..
This enabled me to move house as i could get out of my negative equity home(big in the 90`s) remarry and have some more children…….!

I never managed to hold down a relationship for 12 yrs due to the CSA and stress /grief caused, I lost any contact with my daughter(21 in september) haven’t seen her for 14 years again to the CSA.

With the old system i was a complete expert on which payment of which part of the applied formula(at the time) enabled me to a reduction of the carer element, at different stages i.e. birthdays.

At her 19th birthday i stopped my payment of £240+pounds a month, to be written to within a week saying a DEO was going to be applied……WOW at last some efficiency , i was really impressed. I rang them on my mobile to play the merry-go- round of which department, CAST team,which branch and who was finally allowed to deal with me to ………

They said that the payment would be carried on at the present rate to clear the arrears within 12 months..Ballcocks to that.
I said that after i moved house and all the increased costs etc i managed to arrange the payment towards my arrears to £30 per month which they almost quite happily settled for because at the time they were being ripped apart by the media etc.. I had £5k remaining to pay off my arrears an offered to pay them in full with a clearing payment. They declined stating the policy is due to government blah blah.
So i offered to pay th £30 per month and they would only settle for £60 per month minimum payment, the reason being the arrears would drag on…ha chuffing ha.

Well after nearly 20 years of this crap you tend to become a little hardened and very cynical/sarcastic .either that or you get ill, go daft or in extreme circumstances ..well we know what they cause don’t we.
my final payment is Oct 09 , in the wise words of HOMER…..WOO-HOO!!

My thoughts are with you and your family.

The only way is to pay -it was a lesson i have learn`t the hard way
Andy Vickers
Telford
Shropshire
CSA Veteran 1991-2009

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