Contradictory CMS needs to be abolished

April 26, 2018

I’ve written a few things on this site before I have had the misfortune of being involved with Cms since 2014 From 86 per month on my yearly wage Reasonable Now 87.per week from my bank account from my overdraft Which their own guidelines state we cannot take monies from an overdraft

7 letters from my local mp over their oppressive and abusive practice

2 tribunials both rejected

Contact costs rejected

17 months on a doe greater than my weekly wage and I’m still arrears by their collect an pay system I had a fba in place agreed by Cms when they said I had to pay 9 x as a standing order I did that That also.was rejected and the first doe was 378 from 1000 Now 435 is 50% of my nett income and the statory taxes are 18% Then in two taxes That’s 68% of my nett income If I agreed to this unrealistic contract I would have had to work 80 hours overtime paid statory taxes not got my 435 back but my gross yearly income would increase and so would my child support payments by 100% Which is racketeering and profiteering practice which both are abusive practice Now Cms won’t answer me when I’ve said my income wasn’t enough but it had been for 22 years in employment so they can make a % charge Which was greater than my child support payments My contact costs rejected as the crow flies ?

No Google maps say it’s what it is

Not Cms we can reject because we can

10 months out of work because Cms cannot see that it’s abuse to not have a disposal income being denied independence a home contact a job a car Nobody would go to work for 50% less of their nett income It’s unrealistic unreasonable contract to be put into a dishonest company That just gives mis information or mis leading information false promises and is in Controdiction to their own guidelines and code of practice Cms might not see that the nrp and pwc are both customers of this system And consumer laws should be in place Because this is fraud And goverment stance on fraud is its fraud nothing else Being forced or priced out of employment because Cms need more and more Is dishonest As a parent both parents need to be assessed on yearly income taxing a single person to poverty is not the answer and not in my children’s best interests.

My children loved being in my car Cms it’s a luxury sell it an pay your child support When does duty and oblingation become financial abuse by cocersive control Just lacks common sense dignity equality diversity and it is child abuse If the nrp cannot have the disposable income how can he mostly he Afford to maintain a lasting relationship with their children So it’s another best of intentions gone lost in translation My child support payments are not 50% of my income So why have Cms said it was Pwc can give your children Xmas presents when they stole the kids Xmas money to buy presents for a surcharge

No this system needs to abolished Not about people or children it’s about tax on children And nrp is not a person just a non entity to be exploited at 50% of their income And use children as a comodity to justify that action Which part of human rights is missing in this system The loss of dignity mental stability a job transport and mostly contact Because the pwc can use this system as another weapon of hatred and by financial means Which is oppressive and abusive practice Just daft and not what the csa or the Cms was intended for The nrp low income has a national insurance number a tax number And a p60 Which states taxes paid Doe by the treasury did not show on that form So hmrc dwp and Cms are not woring together Because if they did they would have seen that it’s abuse to be denied an income or 68% in two taxes is excessive

Appeals dont work contact Cms that doesn’t work get hung up.on because they cannot give an answer Magistrates that didn’t work either To appeal against the ex cess I’ve doe Pwc won’t agree Then are hands are tied It’s just bullying and scare tactics Over money Now your on benefits it’s only 7 per week No your action has denied me an income only an allowance that wasn’t enough to.live on And the 7.50 Minium wage act states 7.50 should be enough to live on And how could I have 60% nett protected earnings if you wanted 50% from my bank account and from my overdraft Just lacks knowledge.

Dated CSA not fit for purpose by leaving fathers willing to pay with nothing

April 25, 2018

The CSA is out of touch and definately not on the fathers side. They only take into consideration what you earnt last year and not what your currently earning. They have increased my payment by £100 per month. They dont care that I have to pay rent , council tax and the fact im slipping into a hole. Not paying them isnt a option either as if you default they simply take the money directly from your wages and charge you £40 each month. I dont mind paying for my child but when Im not even seeing the child plus struggling just to live. I think the CSA is dated and not fit for purpose.They do not care and worse still over 50% of fathers pay nothing.

Not a level playing filled at all.

What gives the CMS the right to give out false information?

April 24, 2018

I have dealings with the csa and now the cms,they say i have a debt of £3974.there taking £630 pcm.which is just under half my wage.i have been ringing them every week for the last 18months.my debt has ranged from £46-£3974,different amount every time i ring.

2014 i was on lo g term sick receiving ssp,the did 2 deduction of earnings leaving me nothing for 2 months running.no explanation why.

2016/2017 they upped my payments for this debt i have paid over £1400 back to them,no explanation where tge debt came from.the rest of this yr saying i still have a debt so agreed to pay an extra £50 pcm till sorted becasue the debt was £1700 after the anual reveiw november 2017.

feb 20l8 payments put up to over £600 pcm,no explanation where debt is from or why so much.i dont eat somedays or have eletric so my daughter can stay at weekends.all they seem to say is when you ring is i cant see all the case but will put a note on the person who is looking into it and they will be in touch in 24hrs….still waiting for 6 call backs 4 from last yr.

i havent seen my 2 youngest kids in 5 yrs due to the mother or knows where she lives but the cms told me 3 times they can send a form to my ex to see if we can swap numbers so i could make contact.complete and utter lies.what gives them the right to give out false info like that.the cms is a joke and run by staff who dont ni what there doing.im ready to give work up and my house as i cant afford to live.getting in debt just to get by.

All I want is financial support for my daughter

April 18, 2018

I’ve never had payments from my daughters dad. I left my abusive partner in 2007 when my daughter was 3. She is now 14. He is of gypsy nature and tends to dodge the system but recently heard that he is supporting his other child so maybe he is working. Saving the sob story, this man is illusive and controlling and dangerous and all I’ve ever wanted is for him to help out financially. I’m self employed and a single parent and could always do with his support financially. Please help.

CMS are putting a huge strain on my family

April 8, 2018

So when I was 19 I found myself in a relationship. I was young and stupid and didn’t really know where my life was heading. Between drinking and party’s I got my short term girlfriend pregnant. She wanted to keep the child and I was dead against it. However after a lot of consideration we had a daughter and I stood by her. We continued the relationship however I did not love her and found myself getting in a very awkward situation. After trying I finally plucked up the courage to tell her how I felt and we agreed to separate once she had found a place to live. In the coming weeks she was very loving and looking back enticed me into the bedroom.. I was 19 and very dumb!

Well she got pregnant again and had our son.

I really tried to make a good dad however after a few months again found myself looking in the mirror feeling very confused..

I was working at the time and struggled to pay all the bills. One day she asked me to leave saying that she knew I wasn’t happy and that she would then automatically get a council house..

I left and moved in with a friend which gave me a few weeks to get my head together. About a mouth later I went to see the children only to find that she had moved and had changed her number. Nobody wanted to talk to me and my family turned against me.

Over the next two years I flurrished. I really got my head together, found a good job and met a lovely woman who I married. I was happy but still had no contact with my ex, my children or my family.

My wife and I then moved away and had a son together. From the moment he was born I promised I would be next to him my whole life trying to make up for the children I had lost.

2 years later I was contacted by the CSA. They told me a claim had been made and I agreed to pay what ever was needed. Over the next ten 12 years I paid, never argued and was happy to pay. This totalled around 72k.

These payments did however have a massive effect on my home life. My wife and I constantly struggled to pay all our bills and feed our son. In 2015 I was contacted by the CMS and told they had now taken over my case and would be re assessing it. They increased my payments by 50% and I found them a nightmare to deal with. I contacted them and told them I had never missed a payment etc and asked why it had gone up?.. I also explained that the increased payment should would put a massive strain on me and my family. They told me to contact my ex and come to an agreement. So after 14 years I had to find my ex? How? I eventually got her number via the csa after she agreed for them to pass me it.

I then telephoned her and engaged I the most awkward phone call ever.

We spoke, she told me that she was now married, very well off and all the money I had paid over the years was sitting in a trust fund for the kids?? I felt a bit peeved but thought it’s not my place to get angry at this.

I asked her about setting up a direct payment to which she refused saying that she didn’t want anything to do with the claim and that I must go with whatever the CMS said. Just like that.

I have now paid over 80k into a trust fund for two children I lost 18 years ago. I don’t mind paying but it is painful when my wife or son asks me for things we can not afford. When we argue the CMS payments always come up, I nearly at the end but would lying if I said I hadn’t contemplated suicide. The CMS processes is cruel, if you are just going through this get some help, I done it alone and it is so tough.

I want to pay for my child, but CSA makes it hard to get by

April 6, 2018

Ive aways payed the csa never falled behind in paymenys . But what i do find very hard is that i relay on the overtime i do at work . Which pays the extra that i need but then each year the csa aways take extra off this and finding it hard each time . Single person on me own have me morage to pay try and have a good relatioship with my child . But it like this year they put the cost up again, when you try and come to arrangement with my childs mother so its fair on both partys and the only responce you get . I qoute ( theres a reason i go throught the csa , if you have a problem see them about it ) personal i dont have a problem paying the cost to help my child but when thats cost is hard for me to live off its not . So now my self thinking is it worth work at all, whats the point.

In the pass the csa was very hard to talk too now its change over still help full but i dont think is fair.

Can be very presured trying to live with the little i have when the other party just wants to take as much as they can off you.

What also do fine how to work out what they charge. Make it so hard.

CSA treat dads like criminals regardless of circumstances

April 2, 2018

Child maintenance have treated me like I am scum of the earth my x partner would not let me see our child and went to csa they originally took 178 pound a month wich stopped because I had an illness on and of for 4 years I have been paying car the amount always changes they never ever rung me even when they claim they have tried calling me I get letter about every 5 months dated for the 5 months I get them all in one hit it should be illegal how they treat dad’s they think we choose not to pay and go of that alone when that’s not always the case.

CMS upped payments and won’t offer any kind of solution

March 30, 2018

I have been paying child support for a good number of years at £350 which is hard. I had reall trouble finding a job and I ended up taking a job in London which costs me over £400 to get to and from. The CMS have now told me I need to increase my payments to £480 which I just cant afford. I’m being crippled by financial worries and this is just adding to them. I have tried to talk to the CMS who seem completely unwilling to help and just say ‘have a word with your ex’! my ex wants as much money as she can get her hands on and wont budge.

Is there anything I can do?

Ex stole child away from me and now wants to bleed me dry

March 23, 2018

When my son was 8 my ex decided to just steal him!! He dragged me through the courts said I was a junkie. prostitute and an unfit mother. My son had lived happily with his Master’s Degree Mum happily and was well rounded and gaining well at school. He forced me to have a hair strand test for drugs at my expense which I did – it was clear!

My ex was awarded custody by a misogynous male magistrate and I have not seen him since. I do not know where he lives, I have tried to trace him. I am heart broken and now have quite severe PTSD. I work hard still and I am a very respected Social Worker of 18 years.

Two year ago I receive a letter from the CSA telling me they are deducting monies at source. I was absolutely shocked, I haven’t seen my son for years and now I have to pay money.

All because my ex is a non-working layabout that I now need to fund.

How can I stop them? Is there any test law that ha gone through the European Courts yet? Don’t get me wrong I will pay for my son I’m his mother but he possibly doesn’t even see the monies I pay. I also cannot comprehend how they deduct 12% of your gross earnings without even looking at your outgoing expenses. Sometimes I cannot heat my home because of the amount of monies I am paying for a son I cannot see.

What can I do? I have heard some people declare a nil income. Then I would just save him money every month until he is 16 which is this year.

I am confused and a bit furious about it all. I have even considered becoming unemployed as they are bleeding me dry.

thanks for listening to my rant.

Fathers who try to evade CSA by emigrating should have passports taken off them!

March 9, 2018

It’s not true REMO and the MEBC can enforce a non-resident parent that lives overseas to pay maintenance. I did it with my ex but you need to keep pestering them. Eventually the foreign court depending on where the person lives through The Hague Convention has to enforce maintenance. my ex thought he could escape by moving to Australia sadly for him he now pays twice the amount of maintenance he paid in the UK , lol!!! That’s after a year of badgering by me though. That bastard never got away with it nor should any other non-resident parent . You were there 50 percent to make the child in the first place . I don’t even think 15 percent is enough at all. They should have their passports taken away and be forced to have contact with their children. he doesn’t want to see his until she is eighteen . I just think that’s his loss he is missing out on a lovely daughter he could have known. I have him every opportunity to have a relationship with her and he just didn’t want it or possibly his new wife. I think that’s extremely sad and pity him.

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