CSA are overcharging so that the ex won’t kick up a fuss

July 23, 2014

I phoned and told the csa that my wages had been reduced and that I had my children 2 nights per week instead of 1, 14 month later and I contacted them again asking why no changes had taken place in my payments.

They didn’t know why nothing had been altered, but knew I had contacted them, so I’ve overpaid for 14 month, yet they will not reduce my payments till I’m awarded back my overpayments.

Said I can do that but if my ex complained I would have to start paying my support again, there is no justice? It’s all for one and not the other!

Regards

Are they just making this arrears up?

July 23, 2014

To all the people that have had problems with the CSA, IT TOOK ME FIVE YEARS TO PROVE THAT I DID NOT OWE ARREARS THEY SAID I OWED.

I was nearly suicidal but with the help of my new partner who is very clever and supportive, I was able to find the strength to keep fighting, I wrote to my local MP, the government borrowed money from my Mum to get an accountant, they did take a big chunk of money that I had paid in the first place to avoid an attachment of earnings, although I was eventually able to prove that I didn’t owe this money.

Six years on I still haven’t had the money back, now after 6 years of fighting because I moved away, and I earn less now, my ex wife contacted me because she is now afraid she won’t get any money, we have come to an agreement, although she has done everything in her power to stop me seeing the children for the last six years.

I even carried on paying for my eldest daughter for well over a year and she had left school and had a job, I only found this out by accident, and when contacted the Child Support Agency didn’t explain to me why I hadn’e been informed and to this day I haven’t received my money back for that either, apparently I have to pay the same amount for two as I did for three????

Don’t quite understand how that works, anyway my ex wife, has now told the Child Support Agency she doesn’t want to involve them anymore, and that we will work it out between ourselves, but apparently, I now owe them £1046.16 in arrears, where this amount has been plucked from I will never know, think they make it up as they go along.

Anyway I called them to ask them what the arrears were for and they couldn’t give me a sensible answer, because they don’t actually know, that’s what the computer says so it must be right, I have kept every letter I have evr been sent from the CSA, and when I quoted a letter back to them from last year that I don’t owe any arrears after my five year battle with them, and that I have never missed one payment, the lady at the CSA, was at a loss as to what to now say, so she just said yes you do owe it, and that was the end of that, so now I will have another battle to get these arrears they’ve plucked out of the air taken off, otherwise, if my ex wife decide’s to be spiteful again apparently she can come after me at a LATER date through the CSA to get these arrears back.

The CSA are a nightmare, I believe their should be independent solicitor’s to help NRP to talk for us when the CSA won’t listen, everyone I know that has had to deal with the CSA has had a nightmare, so don’t ever feel your the only one’s, the CSA go after working Fathers and once they get their teeth into god help us all, but all it really does is give the ex’s the leverage they need to decide if they don’t want you in the kids lives then you won’t be because even if we wanted to go to court we can’t afford it because of the extortionate child support bill’s we all end up with.

I do not object to paying Child Support but it should be means tested on both sides, and the Mother’s should be able to play god with the children, I bet if the CSA said to the Mother’s that they had to let NRP see the children or they wouldn’t get any money, the Mother’s would soon let the kids see the NRP, unless obviously the children were at risk in any way.

I feel sorry for anyone that has to deal with the CSA, they are a completely unfair organisation and should be shut down for good, keep fighting them though, because things are starting to change, bit too late for me, but hopefully in the future things will be fairer, for the children and the NRP.

Why don’t we focus on a child’s emotional support first?

July 22, 2014

What pisses me off more than anything is everyone banging on about money, money, money, money. WHEN will there be a Child EMOTIONAL support agency???????

No wonder the majority of children from broken families end up at the lower end of society, they just see their split parents constantly fighting. I dont see my boys, apparently as I no longer loved her and didnt want to live with her anymore I was suddenly a phedophile, with 7 cops at the door checking my computer, phone and anything else with memory capability, and after wasting police time they were returned to me.

So just be careful guys, the girl who will do anything for you when you meet her will do anything against you if/when you split, even using the children as a lever, saddens me when one parents need for power and spite is greater than a child/children’s need for a father.

How can they happily take my money but then say they can’t talk to me?

July 22, 2014

My Story is I am claiming JSA because I am not working, but I received a letter saying that £5 a week will be deducted from my JSA.

I contacted them on the 25/11/2013, and after the forth time of contacting them i eventually got through, I was asked a variety of security questions, which I understand, but then I was told they could no go any further with this as I got a security question wrong.

I thought about which one I might of got wrong and the only one was my sons date of birth, which was stupid of me, I then recalled them back with the correct date of birth, they asked me what was my sons mothers surname, which because i don’t have contact with the mother if she has remarried then I would not know it.

What gets me they can take the money out of my JSA without any notice at all, and also not help me when I required. regardles of what security questions, which most i know if i don’t no my x’s married name this might be the reason, but why would I want to know her name, when it dose not interest me.

I don’t even see my children they are 19 and 21, I have not even fallen out with my children, i sore my kids once on my birthday which was June this year and i have not seen them since.

I have always paid my child support, but a couple of years ago I overpaid, the parent with care she closed the account, but i never herd from the CSA ever again until they have just taken £5 out of my benefit, which is to help me look for work.

CSA acknowledges fraud but still takes my money

July 20, 2014

I have been fighting the csa over a deo and libilty order since 2007 they said that the pwc has claimed for a qc at college.

I had three boys with my first wife and I had contact with them every weekend,all three of them had left school and had full time jobs in 2007.

I provided written statements from the empolyer of the child that pwc claimed was in college in 2007 and still the csa continue to deduct 40% of my wage because they can and even thro it is in there own paperwork that the pwc has made a fraudulent claim they are not asking her to pay it back but they want me to pay it back instead.

I have all paperwork and documents to prove what i have stated.

I struggle while I know that he’s earning

July 20, 2014

I have been claming csa for my daughter since she was born im on a low income and its a struggle.

He has been working for 6 months and recently over a year and i have recived nothing i ed a letter to tell me i will be still geting 2.50 few months ago when he told me him self hes working its ajoke.

Where are my rights?

July 18, 2014

Im signed off with ocd anxiety and depression. I hav money forced from benefits and am left in severe hardship Csa want more money and are now tgreatening court and prison.

Im happy to go to prison for a break but am concerned they seem to think it is a punishment???????????

I have demanded a blood test as I do not tgink the child is mine and am not allowed to see her as her mum does not want me to.

No rights? Uk is a hole.

Why am I kept on an old, unjust system?

July 18, 2014

I am writing this on this forum for the first time in anger, in desperation and hope of a way out of this massive unfairness and obvious inequality of my current situation with regard to the Child Support Agency. I shall try and make this as brief as i can.

My daughter was born pre 2003, after a brief relationship with her mother. Before the separation i used most of my inheritance money from my mother’s death to pay off roughly £8000 of my partner’s debt.

On separation we established a monthly payment of £200 by mutual consent, and that I would have my child for half the week. A short time later she made the decision to involve the CSA, coincidentally when I met a new partner and I have had to deal with them since. I have always paid every penny that i am due and have enjoyed sporadic periods of access dependant on her mother’s opinion of me, and if I am in a relationship.

Throughout the years since then and up to now i have never walked or waned from my responsibilities to my daughter and have enjoyed a good relationship with her and have always requested parental responsibilities. Parental responsibility has always been strenuously refused to me by her mother, and up to this date I have been unsuccessful in gaining this. I know that I could do through application to the courts but have used solicitors many times to get access to her back I just could not afford another expensive saga.

The CSA calculated on the fantastic old 1993 system that i should pay from a 4 weekly wage of £1350, £270. This equated to roughly 20% of my pay. As i work for the Local Authority this comes straight off my pay at source. The amount since I started paying in 2002 has increased as my wage increased. My 4 week wage is now 1850 4 weekly, increased due to small wage increases, promotion, and a subsistence for working away from home on many occasions. My ex-partner demanded a reassessment of my wage and the CSA now demand £512 every 4 weeks!! This is now 28% of my wage. But an increase in the total amount to pay of 91% when my wage has only increased by 37%.

My ex made a request for reassessment mid-December 2012. I was alerted to this by phone call start of February 2013, some 6-7 weeks later. I complied and sent in wage slips so that the new assessment could be calculated. I received a letter back to say that the new amount that I needed to pay would be finalised around mid-march. A bit of breathing space I thought until I have to make the increased payments.

By the time I received the final calculated amount by letter I somehow had accrued roughly £800 of debt. I was never told that the new calculation would be backdated to the time my ex had made the original call for the re-assessment. So from when that call was made until my first new payment I had owed around £62 per week. Bearing in mind I never knew about the request for re-assessment for 6 weeks and then another 7 weeks until the calculation and new payment schedule was implemented. I had now amassed roughly £800 in arrears before i would start making the 91% increased payments. Because of the massive increase the CSA were kind enough to let me pay off the arrears at £10 per week. So the new amount I now pay is £516 every 4 weeks including the arrears. Worked out per month £559. Per week £128, roughly. For 1 child!!!!

For the record, I am in no way saying that I do not have a responsibility to pay, of course I have and have always been willing to do so. But I do not have a high paying job, have a luxurious car or lifestyle, and indeed struggle with this amount as am sure a lot of people would. But this new amount is extreme.

Even to be on the post 2003 (CSA2) system would mean I would pay roughly half of what I pay now, but to be honest i wonder how government ministers consider a pre-2003 child needs twice as much money to look after than a post 2003 child. Bearing in mind in 2003 we were all told that we would all be put onto this new system. But that never happened; it would be random cases that would transfer first??? Or, the computer systems not working???

Excuses were aplenty. So you sit in silence hoping something will change. And it did, the introduction of the Child Maintenance Service 2012. But Wait, again there will be a hierarchy of what cases get transferred, this will or could happen as late as 2017, and the computer system is not working?? I’ve heard that before. On this new system I would pay less than half of what I’m paying now. Not my formulas but the DWP’S.

SO:
CSA1 £128 per week (which I am on at present)
CSA2 15% of net income of £1856 (every 4 weeks) is £278 / 4 = £69.50 per week
CMS Gross – Pension is £31576 per annum – £3666 annual pension contribution
Is £27910, 12% of that amount / 365 days * 7 days giving weekly amount of
£64.20 per week

Why is it at a massive cost to the taxpayers, 2 new systems have been introduced since the 1993 system has stopped, but there are still people like myself that are being held paying far more that what the DWP think I should pay on that system that was deemed to be out of date and not fit for purpose. In my case this is now 11 years out of date. Potentially and most likely by the time 2017 comes around it will be 14 years out of date.

To us fathers or NRP’s as we are known that are still on this old, debt accumulating, proven to not work, out of date, not fit for purpose draconian system, this is not only discriminatory, but a total injustice, and prevention of a quality of life allowed to those fathers and children that happened to find themselves in a similar situation since 2003.

With tears of frustration,

Thanks for taking the time to read

There should be a law to find CSA dodgers

July 18, 2014

CSA have the fathers national insurance number but said can’t find him through this.

I can’t find out where he lives his parants won’t give me an address waste off time.

He has not payed 2 wards his son 4 the last 4 yrs about time there was a law 2 find them.

Why are we still having the full amount taken if the mother is under investigation?

July 17, 2014

My husband has been paying csa for twin girls he didnt know exsisted until 4 years ago from a one night stand 19 years previous!!

The mother turned up out of the blue after 15 years demanding payments my husband gullible as he is paid the mother no questions asked?? myself and the family urged him to seek dna testing which csa refused to do as he had made numerous payments.

Anyway 4 years later the twins are now 18 and at 6th form they leave in june. Our problem is 1 of the twins moved in with us in dec 2012 for a week short of 3 months my husband was still paying csa to the mother?!she went home in the feb only to move in with her gran in the june!!

We have since learnt she had left one of the courses in 6th form and is now only doing 8 hours?? we have been told the mother is still claiming for the twin as living with her and being in 12 hours education?! she is apparently being investigated for benefit fraud?

We spoke to csa who told us it was under investigation but the csa payment was still taken out of his wages this month??

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