April 28, 2016
Firstly, the security settings up for contact with the CSA is a joke. Every single person in the world has less security on their bank account, that’s fact. 13 questions you have to have answers to, such as ‘your favourite band’,’your favourite singer’, I mean come on! Seriously, I’m not a fan of music, I don’t have a memory that registers actors and singers particularly, yet I can tell you my bank or phone passwords are a mixture of numbers and letters amounting to 15 characters. To have to know these 13 answers of varying types (quite childish ones) on the off chance you’re contacted by these life bullies is ridiculous. Their reply to my questioning of this method is to ‘carry the answers on paper with me wherever I go’. Yes of course! So I must remember to add this list to my daily tasks and put it in my suitcase should I go anywhere!! Ludicrous and quite full of self importantance aren’t they!
Secondly, they won’t supply copies of phone conversations unless requested by a solicitor, which they know full well people won’t do because it costs money, which they haven’t got because of them!
Thirdly, I can guarantee that people have spoken to someone within the CMEC/CSA, whom after being questioned on the morality or fairness of their judgement, will most definitely give a ‘personal’ answer and defer from their protocol of not becoming personally involved. Hence the request for copies of phone conversations! I’ve questioned their directness and the fact that they should take into account individual circumstances, such as ongoing court cases for access, which will also give judgement on maintenance amounts…. Yet they do not take this into account and they will not hold off, even if a legal case is ongoing. They won’t take into account that I once had my children to stay overnight, for alot more than 52 nights a year (which by the way, is one of their own criteria for lowering payments), however this is unimportant as I would have them everyday if I could, but that’s a battle for another day. To mention anything like this to them, you will get ‘personal’ replies such as ‘is it fair for your children to not be paid for?’ Which really boiled my blood and this is what they want, so they can hang up the phone when you say ‘how dare you’ and become irate. There’s many more ‘personal’ statements, too many to list.
Thirdly, should you have any altercations with them, they may block your phone number! Seriously, I have proof. I received phone messages whilst at work, stating that I needed to get in touch within a certain time frame or they would continue action against me. So, of course it’s best to keep communication lines open, I called them back. The result being countless ‘busy’ replies to my calls. It rang engaged every single time I called. I decided to screen shot my phone screen when I called. This recorded the time, number being called and the ‘busy’ message on screen. I decided to withhold my number by dialling theirs with the 141 pre-fix. Again I screen shotted without the pre-fix getting the ‘busy’ response and then 30 seconds later using the 141 pre-fix and actually getting through to the call options! Thus proving they have used underhanded tactics to delay my right to respond effectively to their demands. Sickening.
Fourthly, their mailing tactics. Anyone else had the old statement on the phone ‘you haven’t responded to our many letters’? What letters??? They haven’t sent any! It’s strange how I receive some but not all and the address is still the same! That’s not all though…. Some of the letters you’ll receive, no doubt will be back dated? Usually 3-4 days old by the time you receive them? Again, cutting your ability to respond effectively within a time frame given by them.
It all disgust me. How can a so called free and modern world today, have a government and its departments that act like secret agencies with the power of God? It’s absolutely sickening to see what they’re capable of and nobody can touch them.
People kill themselves over this, it’s horrible.
I believe people have a duty to pay for their families, past, future and present. But there needs to be a strict rule in place that covers the differing economical areas. For instance, people in London will earn more than people in Lincoln, therefore, the cost of bringing up a child in London will be higher than one in Lincoln. Therefore the payments should reflect this. The cost of living is higher in London, so the payments should be higher. Basically there should be balance in the respective areas. A properly in London for 200k would be the equivalent of a 70k property elsewhere. So the cost of living payments need to reflect this. What I’m saying is, there should be flat figures based on the cost of bringing a child up in certain areas… Which would come into line with the affordability of what a typical male/female would earn in those areas. It should NOT be bases on a percentage of what a person earns!! If a person is earning 100k a year, who the hell says the child of that person needs 10k a year to be brought up?? Where as a person who earns 30k a year, their child only requires 3k??? Where’s the percentage come from??? Why are people being classed based on their earnings? It discrimination at its finest!! The payments should be based on the cost of living, not the monies earned. If the child moves, then payments should be recalculated, but there should also be a cap so as to not have a persons life be played with by ex partners. For instance, someone should not be able to move from a low cost area to a high cost area and still expect a rise in payments. Unfortunately if you want to improve your standard of living, you should do what everyone else has to and improve that yourself! Not rely on others to do it for you.
In a nutshell, the whole system is wrong and needs addressing properly, before more lives are ruined and lost due to a government body that has a God complex.
April 27, 2016
I HAVE BEEN FIGHTING A LOSING BATTLE WITH THE CSA FOR OVER TEN YEARS…MY ELDEST DAUGHTER IS NOW 23, I SPLIT WITH MY DAUGHTERS MOTHER WHEN SHE WAS APPROX 3.5/4.YEARS OLD. EVER SINCE THEN SHE STAYED WITH ME EVERY WEEKEND WITHOUT FAIL, AND IN THE EARLY DAYS 1 NIGHT DURING THE WEEK ALSO, THIS WAS 4 NIGHTS A WEEK UP UNTIL THE AGE OF 8/9 WHEN IT WAS 3 NIGHTS A WEEK, INCLUDING HOLIDAYS AND ALSO PAYING FOR ALL HER SCHOOL NEEDS AND ALL HER CLOTHES.
THE CSA REFUSE TO RECOGNISE THIS ON THE GROUNDS THAT I HAVE LEFT IT TOO LATE TO CLAIM DISCOUNT FOR OVERNIGHT STAYS AND GENERAL FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR MY DAUGHTER. MY DAUGHTER HAS EVEN WRITTEN A LETTER TO THE CSA STATING ALL THE ABOVE FACTS.I HAVE JUST RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE CSA THAT SAYS THEY ARE GOING INTO MY PERSONAL BANK ACCOUNT A TAKE £1203.02 EVERY MONTH FOR MONIES I DO NOT OWE.I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT THAT THE CSA ARE INCLUDING A YOUNGER DAUGHTER, BUT HAVE NOT SPECIFIED THE AMOUNT FOR EACH DAUGHTER.
April 26, 2016
I have had endless problems with the csa even now im still fighting My case has gone over to the new 2012 system i rang them and made a fresh claim as instructed while the old csa was planning on sending outstanding maintenance arrears for enforcement. That never happend it was rejected and the new system was told there is a no contact order or shared care involved so i wanted to do the collect and pay iption which was accepted.
I then got a call stating my ex wanted to pay me directly and they would like me to agree. I told them i agree but i know i wouldnt get a penny. Fast forward 2 months later a schedule is put in place and low and behold no payments. I rang and told them and was informed they have to give him 2 weeks to respond as to why he hasnt paid and then it will take another 2 months to put deductions of earnings into place which is what i requested in the first place! He has 3800 pounds in maintenance arrears and should never have been offered direct pay in the first place. I will now be consulting with a solicitor as ive no other option.
April 19, 2016
After years of hell with this so called organisation I have came to the conclusion if your in employment your an easy target for this mob !
As I’m in construction and my wages vary week to week the CSA have decided I should pay £150 per week for my daughter who stays with her mum and new husband . I also have new wife and 2 other kids how can I be paying over £600 a month to my ex my own children who stay in our house don’t get anyway near that amount ! Every other week they check my wages change my amount put me in arrears etc . I have never missed a payment but I’m in arrears . I go on holiday with my family I get no wages for the time I’m off come back to work get a wage only to find the week I was away no payment obviously because I never got wages gets doubled to following week !
I feel the CSA are taking advantage of my position !!!!
April 18, 2016
Can i ask from a moral point of view is the CSA guideline a minimum to give as an allowance , or a recommended level. We are fighting over the fact that my ex partner does not believe that £650 a month is enough to fund my 12 year old daughter in London .. how many people pay above the guidelines?
April 17, 2016
The mother of my child got a letter in the post from child maintenance showing a break down of what I earned through the tax year 14 to 15 how much before and after tax i thought this personal information about me was private now everyone were we live knows surly this didn’t need to be revelled ?
April 16, 2016
I received £80 once 12 years ago from my kids father, since then Ive been told they cant find my husband. They said they had put a charge on his house but then he defaulted on the mortgage and it was repossessed. Then he decided to job hop. Since then they have done nothing to find him. What a useless Agency.
April 15, 2016
My yearly salary is £28,000 before taxes, i pay £280 every month, my salary changes every month, could you tell me why im paying this much for one “child” who is over 18 living away from her mother, is not at full time education making her own money on facebook beauty page has already one child and will have another in a couple of months time.
April 14, 2016
I think its a disgrace that the csa always take the mothers side.my ex got pregnant 3 weeks after we met. She kept saying how nice it would be to have a daughter after already having 2 sons from previous marriages.
When our daighter was eventually born she stopped being a wife and turned into a completely different person. She didnt want to know or even be in the same room with me.i contacted marriage guideance to try and resolve our problem but each time she just sat there and said nothing. I gave up after a while and left due to her unreasonable behaviour. I couldnt take any more.she lied to the court to get a divorce but the court decided she had no grounds so i divorced her.
i started to see my daughter for a while but my ex decided to move away with her new partner and denied me access. I haven’t seen my daughter for 13yrs.my eldest daughter from a previous marriage contacted her and eventually met. My ex refuses me to see her until she’s 18.
Now i have csa on my back forcing me to make payments that i possibly cannot make.i am drastically just keeping my head above water by paying off existing debts with my new family.after all this time not wanting to know me why am i being persecuted. The system sucks.
April 12, 2016
I ahve been in volatile relationship which my ex partner uses her bipolar diagnoses to excuse her behaviour of phoning every work place ive been employed making false allegation anonymously because i work with vulnerable clients and laughs about it ect this was while i was trying to make it work,
since break up staying sofa surfing family friends i aquired a rented property so i could have my children stay three to four nights a week this wa by her request or i couldnt have access to my children unless i moved back in with her.i am on minimum wage and was barely surviving but wasnot concerned as i could have my children regulary so was worth the financial hard ship,
imagine my suprise being contacted by cms to say they have been informed by my ex that she has made a claim against me stating i dont have them ever i dont visit ect demanding £67 a week out ny £190 wages unable to eat one paid rent ,council tax ,electricity or gas firstly taking money on tax records from a previous job a year and half ago stating it doesnt matter about my circumstances or accommodation ect and workout payment on income before taxes thats it.
i tried reason with ex partner especially about lies that i have no contact or shared care,she laughed thought was funny considering she will change her mind in few weeks and blame her condition once again she sent police to my door saying threateninh her life believe me messages had got heated due to her saying if i went to court for visitation rites she would say i was a child abuser and never have access or work in chosen career with accusation made of that nature police not interested in slander or hundreds of text i recieve trying to bait a response
what do i do if try and keep accomodation knowing she will change mind in few weeks and blame her condition i will probably lose accommodation because of arrears if give up accommodation my local authority has no duty of care to rehouse me if go back to sofa surf around family or friends she will not let kids stay with me when she changes her mind again. i have no issues in supporting my kids but at what cost lose house lose job lose all self respect and give her amunition to poision my kids your father has nothing no job no house ect .wheres fairness in the system.