SB on December 3rd,
“Now run along, you are cluttering your friends site up with utter nonsense,i’m sure he doesn’t appreciate it.”

The OP asked for advice, and your two websites have taken that as carte blanche to slag each other off for the past month on this page. It has gone way off topic and has just ended in a slanging match.

Just because we haven’t replied to you, doesn’t mean we’re taking their side on things. We’re neutral here, so don’t drag us into your squable.

oooha, Deadbeats require assistance from a PWC – blooming ‘eck!
after I posted to help somebody out, and who is “your lot” there is only myslef from DBDA comes on here to help people out with the information and knowledge we have gained.

Micheal we never said you were affiliated with any other CSA web site, however I have emailed you a few times to offer our services on here but we did not get a response from you,

We hope this has been helpful.

We too have looked into ” common purpose etc. It does not merit what you are leading your members into, but yea so be it.. You get on with your deal, and we with ours…. I agree totally with that. Maurice/trace has went on since parentcentre, and it was an unwarranted attack by Maurice when trace defended PWC, he still can not/will not let go… For a grown man it’s rather childish don’t you think? He may walk over you Sherrie, but he will never walk over me….. Do you realise at times you come over as his doormat, stop allowing that its making you both look bad..

Ok, have you any proof of what you state here? we have PROOF of the way we deal with matters works,if members don’t wish to take this route or any route we suggest then that is fine, we don’t bully or TELL them that is the way it has to be done.
I am fully aware that some don’t want to get rid of the CSA,lord knows why,thats their choice,and why say most NRP are not DEADBEAT? where exactly are you going with that one? our name was tonhue in cheek, we do NOT want anyone to cease paying for their children, you have no idea of what we explain can be done instead!! but then i wouldn’t expect you to.
As for the way we are going is dangerous or leading members into more serious, deeper problems, and that cases are left to fester,this shows the level of mis conception that you know of what we are doing,again, we don’t expect you to know or even have any level of knowledge of what we are doing, however the ignorance does show.
Do you really expect that we haven’t tried matters,documents etc ourselves?,at present before you jump on Mo’s case, he is the guinea pig,totally,and we are prepared to suffer whatever comes, but we know what comes we have studied a lot.
As for signing,or correctly swearing and witnessing, a Stat Dec,it costs a fiver, how do you know that we haven’t paid for the most desperate ones out of funds?
You question our ethics you challenge what we are doing, do we interfere and challenge you or your way of dealing with matters? NO!!
Word to the wise, stay out of matters, what does it matter to you or yours what we do? Members have their own minds as does anyone that comes to us for advice, they can agree or not, their call.
It really is simple and it really does work and it has opened our eyes up to a lot that is going on, maybe you should stick to your new site, about are you fed up with Britain and all that is going wrong,,you have no idea how long it has all been going on and for how long and who the BIG players are,when you have done 2 flat years of research and had evidence provided and gained evidence yourself then come back and have a decent conversation with me,until then you mind your own business and your own sites and help those that come to you,whilst we do the same.
You see we have a grandchild who i would like to see live a free life and be happy and healthy and not be in a police state and try pumping them full of drugs that are toxic and eventually lead to health problems etc,too much to post on here,but then you will only call me a fruit the loop and a theorist, so be it, my eyes are wide open and my body is now free of cancers and crap, i aim it to stay that way,and rest assured it will.
I will not answer anymore posts by you two,what Mo does is his problem, literally, as he and Tracey are as bad and vile towards each other as ever,which i am sick of, lifes too short and especially to waste on rubbish,more important things and people to deal with.
Do whatever you have to and in whatever capacity you feel you should, but leave me to my way to,its called respect.

The people who run this site are NOT our friends as you put it. CSA hell is NOT in anyway affiliated with our website… Why oh why do you make these assumptions.

You need to deal with the facts as laid bare..

1) Not everyone agree’s with your militant and crazy ways of dealing with things, that includes your posters on your website……. As you can see a couple are concerned that you are leading your members into deeper more serious problems..

2) You are NEVER going to bring down the CSA/C-mec, and to be honest the majority of parents both NRP and PWC dont want them brought down…. Most parents just want a level playing field and a fair outcome for their CHILDREN

3) Majority of NRP are NOT deadbeat, and WANT to be involved in the lives of their children, financially and socially

4) PWC have as many problems with CSA as NRP, I agree maybe to a lesser extent, but problems all the same

5) Getting people to save up for stat decs, ccj’s etc is WRONG….. These things have NO standing, they give the CSA bigwits a laugh and cost your members money. It’s wrong to give people false hope whilst cases are left to fester and worsen

You need to understand not everyone thinks like, or behaves like you

No need, I understand your member, (or ‘mug’ as you have put it), that passed your post on, is pretty disillusioned. Hardly surprising really, given the condescending way you feel members can be addressed. ‘This will begin your learning process..’
As you’ve said yourself ‘a few members are getting a bit restless’ .