Child maintenance scheme to replace CMEC

December 13, 2010

The Child Support Agency is set for major reform following an announcement by the government that the Child Maintenance and Enforcement Commission (CMEC) will be closed down.

The revelation was made by the UK governing body in October, following a major assessment of its quangos to trim government outgoings.

Over the coming months, the Child Maintenance and Enforcement Commission will become an agency within the Department for Work and Pensions. However, it will not affect the overall running of the service, nor will it alter proposed plans to replace the institution eventually with a new child maintenance scheme.

The Child Maintenance and Enforcement Commission replaced the traditional Child Support Agency in 2009 in an effort to more effectively collect outstanding maintenance payments from non-resident parents. However, the organisation is still known colloquially under its CSA banner.

Governmental reform came about following a National Audit Office study, which revealed that there were £3.5 billion in uncollected maintenance payments between 1993 and 2006. There were also concerns over the effectiveness of the CSA’s administration, as it cost the Child Support Agency 70p for every pound it collected.

Westminster statistics released in summer 2010, however, revealed that there are still large sums of unpaid maintenance to be addressed, as more than £32 million is owing in child support within the UK’s constituencies.

Stephen Geraghty, commissioner of the Child Maintenance and Enforcement Commission, commented:

“We recognise that diversity is about flexibility and continuous improvement…as we start to develop the future statutory scheme that will operate from 2011 we will increase our engagement with client representatives and stakeholders to help us identify improvements so that we develop services to meet the diverse needs of our clients.”


55 Responses to “Child maintenance scheme to replace CMEC”

  1. Lisa Hunter on December 13th, 2010 12:23 pm

    THEY QUOTE 'However, it will not affect the overall running of the service, nor will it alter proposed plans to replace the institution eventually with a new child maintenance scheme.' in finality it's STILL CRAP with no legislation in place to make an absent parent pay maintenance!!

  2. Juliet-Amber Jolliffe on December 13th, 2010 12:51 pm

    Or to stop PWCs from controlling contact and ruining lives….

  3. Lisa Hunter on December 13th, 2010 1:01 pm

    Westminster statistics released in summer 2010, however, revealed that there are still large sums of unpaid maintenance to be addressed, as more than £32 million is owing in child support within the UK’s constituencies.£42,800 is the debt owed to my children!

  4. Rach on December 13th, 2010 2:02 pm

    should just have been scrapped!

  5. Peter Anderson on December 13th, 2010 2:04 pm

    Most of the £3.5 billion outstanding is fictitious arrears as confirmed in letters from the National Audit Office. That's why for many, many years the National Audit Office has been unable to sign of the CSA's accounts. As we see on CsaHell, day in, day out, huge claims for amounts where people's case were closed or paid up years ago but the Csa just left the assessments running knocking up thousands upon thousands in fictitious arrears. And, now the Csa has been put under EXTREME pressure to collect these so-called arrears, that in most case don't even exist. In any case, even if they collect these so-called arrears, do they actually have any intention of giving any of it to the children that have suffered. No, they're only intention is to keep it!

  6. Sarah Wilford on December 13th, 2010 2:27 pm

    I would love to meet these people who calculate this so called debt…. bearing in mind they make half of it up…..stupid idiots….CSA will always have a bad name which ever name it changes too, as they do not change the attitudes of there people, and that stands for all the others aswell. God i get so ANGRY……………

  7. Jim Rigley on December 13th, 2010 3:07 pm

    Stephen Geraghty owes me for the car the CSA STOLE from me for no reason….

  8. Lorraine Moore on December 13th, 2010 4:06 pm

    So the 'Major Reform' is just as major as all the previous reforms then..piffle!

  9. Allan Morrell on December 13th, 2010 4:13 pm

    £42.800….????? over how many years???Another calculated fictitious amount made by CSA that a PWC wants to get hold of….. Hmmmmmmmmm!!!!Keep dreaming!!!!!! Not a chance if entitled that amount… you wont get it… however!!! the NRP might have deductions being made that the CS will not let you have…Wow!! what a wonderfull bit of retail therapy due ….if you actually got that eh!!!Wonder how much of that will be spent on the kids!!!!!!Why would I be doubtfull???????

  10. Allan Morrell on December 13th, 2010 4:17 pm

    Although CSA have made fictitious arrears on my case…. In no way do I believe I owe the CSA!!!!!!I only pay my dues to my child, I have no intentions of paying CSA… I owe CSA nil although they claim I owe approximately £800…I prefer my child benefits… not CSA or PWC…. I SUPPORT MY CHILD … I WILL NOT SUPPORT CSA or PWC!!!!!

  11. Peter Anderson on December 13th, 2010 4:45 pm

    Well said Allan. They wanted £45,000 from me in 2006.Took it to the High Court, Mr Justice Mumby, and he slated them. Then they wanted £25,000. Now they want £15,000 and I'm in Court Friday. But if you look at any of their figures they are a complete and utter disaster. Not a thing makes sense and nowhere do they take all the children into account. I can see this heading back up before Mumby again! They've also decided that it's all owed to one son, my youngest, but they have no intention whatsoever of giving any of it to him! And anyway, shouldn't it be evenly split between all four. I've always tried tom keep things even between them. Paid the car insurance for one, and paid it again for my third etc. And never mind the fact that she was falsely claiming benefits anyway.

  12. Peter Anderson on December 13th, 2010 5:07 pm

    Now, can this be made to apply to the CSA too?

  13. Garry Roe on December 13th, 2010 5:33 pm

    CLIENTS ! ! ! ! ! ! ! …. I am NOT and never will be a client of the CSA , I am and always will be a VICTIM …. " END OF " :-(

  14. Lee Hughes on December 13th, 2010 5:48 pm

    Hear, hear… if I'm a client then Ican dispense with their services, can I not?

  15. Jem Pogue on December 13th, 2010 5:54 pm

    I am definately a victim !They will replace incompetent shit with…………….incompetent shit again !!!!!!!

  16. Mark Yak Attack Howard on December 13th, 2010 6:33 pm

    Agreed !!! You lot have said it all ;0)

  17. Allan Morrell on December 13th, 2010 7:43 pm

    Some PWC's just really dont have a clue!!!!! It's the NRP's who see the real results of this oppressive Father Taxation scheme regime!!!The PWC's whinge because they havent recieved any money from CSA, they'd certainly whinge if they had money taken away from their income… not 1 PWC would consider exchanging places with the NRP… because they know that if they did exchange places…they would have no bargaining hostage (the Child) against NRP's finance to line their purses with for retail therapy!!!! FACT!!!!

  18. Allan Morrell on December 13th, 2010 7:57 pm

    Many PWC only want to keep the child for themselves for leverage to obtain more tax free income…. claiming it is to support the child…..How devious!!!!!

  19. Maxine Knowles on December 14th, 2010 8:47 am

    Alan, you are going off subject again slating PWC's. Can I just clarify that Absent Parents have money taken from their wages for their children but when they don't pay, the PWC has to pay twice as much, so effectively the PWC is paying the Absent Parents contribution. I would like to put the record straight as Alan keeps insisting that PWC's are devious etc.. I think sometimes some people don't realise what a child costs. The fact is the system should calculate a 'realistic' amount which is fair, and not which is way too much for the PWC to be able to look after the child, or way to liitle. If you give £ directly to a child, they cannot pay for their childcare fees themselves, or the extra cost of the mortgage for having to have an extra room in the house for them to sleep in, and they cannot pay for their school dinners themselves, therefore it has to go to the responsible parent. This does not mean that the PWC spends it on shoes, handbags or clubbing!

  20. KMcQ79 on December 14th, 2010 9:20 am

    “There were also concerns over the effectiveness of the CSA’s administration, as it cost the Child Support Agency 70p for every pound it collected.”

    Meanwhile fathers like myself who pay ontime are harassed by the CSA for alleged arrears which,in the CSA’s own letters,don’t exist.

    Meanwhile there are parents who not received one penny from irresponsible NRPs.

    I wonder how big the bonuses will be at the CSA this year?
    CSA staff should hold their heads in shame this Christmas.

  21. Sarah-Jayne Pattimore on December 14th, 2010 10:17 am

    Maxine, you may as well be talking to a brick wall becuse there are far to many bitter NRP on here that cannot think realistically what the cost of a child is! I agree 100% with you tho – and have said it before. If I were single with no kids I coould own/rent a one bed flat – but when I was a single parent to my daughter I needed to rent a bigger flat – hence a bigger expense. I dont feel the cold to much – but I still need to ensure the heating is on more then my lliking to make sure my child is warm. It costs me more at the supermarket to feed her. The list could go on so all the selfish NRP who think that providing some clothing direct to their child will make up for the additonal costs the PWC forks out to ensure their child is welll cared for need to come into the real world.

  22. John on December 14th, 2010 11:12 am

    Just highlights that this scandalous, shambolic system, has nothing whatsoever to do with raising children out of poverty, and has everything to do with government ‘money laundering’.

    They will not give it up, as it is a good earner for them. They will stop at nothing to cause misery, breach your Human rights and Civil Liberties, and bully you!

    I refer ALL on here to a recent judgement by Lord Justice Sedley, regarding overpaymnets to benefit claimants, where it was stated that The practice of bullying these over payments from Welfare recipients was stopped in a judgement by Lord Justice Stephen Sedley last year. What he actually said was that these “Overpayments” were made as a direct result of incompetence from Social Security staff.

    Therefore, if you have been the victim of CSA incompetence with regard to arrears and it is their administration error, I urge you ALL to contact them and quote this ruling. In my eye, there is no difference between, the bullying that has taken place regarding overpayments and the same tatcics regarding underpayments as a result of their incompetence!

  23. Allan Morrell on December 14th, 2010 11:17 am

    Real world sweety!!! My child is supported by all household amenities during shared care, On benefits without additional child support income while nil assessed, still providing for my child, clothing and footwear…. and doing so am I a selfish NRP???Maybe consider during that time the PWC is not providing financial help with several household working incomes…. Do I complain that I dont have the same income???Does my son think I do well by him?????I note how PWC's avoid the issue of exchanging places with the NRP seeing as the PWC feels she cannot afford the living costs for the child!!!!How much does a child need to live on according to law??????Budgeting is clearly an issue that the PWC has difficulty with…!!!!!Why is it I can manage realistically while there are working PWC's who find it very difficult to manage to support their child financially????I am on benefits and find no problem while also running a car, providing all household amenities…. I still do the normal shopping and my child is fed well when in my care, heating is a general household utility… U'd still have to pay, it dont take twice as much to keep 2 rooms warm as it does 1… Fact!!!! Obviously no knowledge of household heating equipment!!!!!!therefore PWC's are not really in touch with reality as to how much it costs to support a child… EVIDENTLY!!!!!! Its several excuses after another to make a claim that it costs twice as much and therfore appeal to the fleecing of the NRP to line PWC purses.It's more a case of the PWC finds after spending, she has nothing left in her purse till nxt pay day… welcome to the real world..!!!!. what entitles PWC to have money after expenditures.??????.. why do PWC's believe that NRP's are not entitled to have money left over after general expenditures????????What entitles PWC to believe that the NRP must suffer financially and emotionally??????If a PWC finds it difficult to financially and emotionally provide for the child… why do they not consider allowing NRP to b PWC????The answer is simple provided….. Because the PWC will have her finances reduced to support child… meaning she has no additional tax free income to line her purse just incase of the urge of retail therapy should strike after all general living costs have been made and paid for!!!!!It appears then that the greedy arrogant selfish PWC's use the child as an additional tax free income accessory!!!!!!It always boils down to the same issue as always… the desire for money!!!! poor budgeting!!!! GREED!!!!!Costs more at supermarkets????… get real … surely you would keep your larder and fridgefreezer stocked!!!!!!! Thats why my child is always fed..Oh yeah, regarding the extra room….. most single people and single parents have access to a 2bed house or flat!!!! it will cost the same either way rentwise or heating wise!!!!REALITY!!!! something many PWC's just cannot quite grasp as their grasp is focused on the MONEY!!!!!!!!Do I ask the PWC to provide 2 days worth of child benefits for the 2 days he's with me???Do I aske PWC to provide Child benefits during his school holidays during the weeks he's with me????I find love, and support are much more valuable than finance… finance is a commodity… Damn !!! you PWC's have no idea of survival… you'd b knackered in extreme conditions….. At least I know how to survive in extreme conditions and I have taught my child how to….. We often talk about survival techniques and exchange ideas… clearly my child is wiser than many PWC's…being a PWC is just another sympathy vote for gossip and whinging!!!what about equal share and responsibility?????, PWC's expect NRP to be totally and solely responsible in many cases as evident on here!!!!SHARED RESPONSIBILITY…. COMPROMISE!!!!!! how is that being a selfish NRP???Bitter????? Its clearly evident that the PWC is the bitter one otherwise there would be a compromise on the shared responsibility!!!!!!!!!!The PWC would prefer the NRP is unable to afford provision directly to the child by purchases being made by NRP for the child so that the PWC can claim all the credit for raising of the child!!!!!!!! FACT!!!!

  24. Allan Morrell on December 14th, 2010 11:21 am

    You PWC's really make me laugh!!!!!!!

  25. Maxine Knowles on December 14th, 2010 11:30 am

    Oh my goodness, I think that response speaks for itself.Totally off the subject, not really making sense in the most part, bitter and twisted and with little concept of the real world.If you can sit at home all day on the laptop on this site, there are lots of jobs you could do in an office sitting at a computer. Why don't you switch your computer off Alan and go into town to some recruitment agencies and see if you can get yourself a job in an office. Job Centre Plus offer funding for training too, and there are government pots of money that offer free training elsewhere too that I'm sure they could point you towards.

  26. Allan Morrell on December 14th, 2010 12:51 pm

    Hmmmm! while I continue to set myself towards opportunities to become self employed??????I am currently on benefits due to my illness and disabilities… the PC is switched on for my photography… editing and creation of image Library!!! Hmmmmmmmm! so although I aint employed, I am still working!!!!! My PC is not for games, It is a working tool and a communications device….. obviously something a materialistic minded person is unable to comprehend… not all PC's are a luxury!!!You might choose your PC to be a luxury.. all my PC's are work tools!!!! If I wanted to be gaming… there is an Xbox and an Xbox 360 to choose from in my sons room!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I do not slate PWC's, I present my opinions by the evidence revealed to me by selfish arrogant greedy PWC's….I also know PWC's who are not prepared to take from NRP to line their purse…Again the PWC avoids the issue of allowing NRP to b the PWC as shared responsibilities…and a compromise in the best interests of the child!!!!!Why not ask NRP to make certain purchases for the Child???? Hmmmm!! because if a PWC did do that she woulnd see the money in her purse rather than seeing the child in the purchased provisions or kept warm and fed by purchased provisions!!! that's why PWC's want the money and many are not prepared to compromise in the interests of the child but to demand the lining of theior purses in BANK NOTES!!!!If PWC's compromised with the NRP… there would be no requirement to go to CSA…Would I go to CSA if my PWC let me have custody of our son????, I wouldnt even ask for a penny from her!!!!!!!!!I would not allow greed to take over me!!!!Those that need the desire for materialistic values in life will never understand how to recieve or give love!!! that persons mind will always find materialism of more value than to be humble!!!!Money is material… a commodity… and to use the child as a commodity to obtain another commodity is absolutely and morally wrong!!!!!!!!!Jesus… who we are to celebrate the birth of this month spoke to his deciples… Man cannot live on bread alone but by the word of God!!!In other words… one must humble themselves in order to know God!!Christ was horrified that the temples were abused by those who's desires were materialistic… specifically the issues of money!!!!!Hmmmmmmm! just consider for a moment what jesus our saviour was trying to tell us!!!!!!!!!!!Maybe I also suggest the issue were jesus spoke regarding the child and shared responsibilities of parents for the child!!!!

  27. Allan Morrell on December 14th, 2010 1:01 pm

    Maxine…. while u were at ur PC writing your rubbish… I was out walking the dogs!!!!My mind was on my photography….. which if not at moment an issue of my employment…is actually my progress towards selfemployment… also.. I currently attend regularly at the Jobcentre in search for work…. We have a PWC on here who has just done 3 yrs of Uni… and still she hasnt got a job… for the want of trying and actually trying but her NRP is absent and selfish and aint willing to provide any purchases or emotional support towards her daughter!!!!But still… you think about materialism!!!! and be a hypocrite this xmas… what is it you celebrate xmas for??????Oh I see!! its all about what you can GET rather than about jesus's way… GIVING!!!!!!!!!I do as jesus would expect of me… to provide, give and love…. Jesus spoke of the evils of money yet you still desire your god MONEY rather than the God I worship ….. the God of LOVE, and charity!!!

  28. Maxine Knowles on December 14th, 2010 1:37 pm

    Oh dear! Moderator, please sort this person out!

  29. Allan Morrell on December 14th, 2010 1:40 pm

    Children and NRP's are victims to the greedy demands of PWC's via CSA/CMEC….. for the satisfaction of monetary GREEEEEEED!!!!!

  30. Allan Morrell on December 14th, 2010 1:54 pm

    Maxine, I see you dont like the reply I made to your comment and critisism of my use of my PC or critisism about my employment status….As you are already aware….. I have no pity for unreasonable PWC's..Maybe you could act in the best interests of financial provision for your child ….that you request your NRP to have custody of the child so your NRP can see how much it costs to financially support your child in the world of your reality????????That may help towards making sure your child is both financially and emotionally provided for by your NRP!!!!!

  31. Allan Morrell on December 14th, 2010 2:00 pm

    Maxine, cant you argue your case or views without other interventions?? the request of moderator is as good an example of PWC request to CMEC/CSA to fight your corner for you instead of negotiation to a compromise in the emotional and financial interests of your child!!!!

  32. Allan Morrell on December 14th, 2010 2:31 pm

    Is that back on the subject enough????????????????

  33. Allan Morrell on December 14th, 2010 3:08 pm

    Sara Jayne Pattimore…. I also provide household amenities consisting of… gas, electric, water……. Food…. toilet roll etc….. On top of clothing and footwear while during shared care….. Household amenities are provided as a general rule yet PWC's expect NRP to pay for their household amenities on top of the NRP's own household amenities….. And you think that the NRP supports your household amenities on top of their own is being fair??????Have you not considered allowing NRP to have custody to see the relevant costs in the reality of raising a child???… Hmmmmm! I wonder why PWC's would not want to allow this to happen… Would it be summat to do with the fact the current PWC wouldnt be entitled to a large chunk of the NRP's income and that the current PWC would have a considerable chunk removed from their own income?????MONEY, MONEY, MONEEEEEEEEY!!!!!!!!!! the motivating contribution of Pure utter Greeeeeediness of the selfish arrogant greedy PWC is the factor that controls the CSA's actions of financial and emotional destruction of many NRP's who want to provide for their children!!!!It is the PWC who requests the intervention of CSA without attempt to compromise with the NRP to make adequate provisions financially and emotionally…. PWC's restrict contact with NRP and child to gain more tax free Money in their purse or bank account…FACT!!!!!when will the PWC begin to turn her back on the devil called money and cease her corruption by the devil that is motivating her greed???

  34. Lisa Hunter on December 14th, 2010 3:12 pm

    i don't need to justify myself to Mr Morrell! For those wanting a response as to how my ex husband owes £42,800 inbox me i will gladly go through it with you!

  35. Maxine Knowles on December 14th, 2010 4:05 pm

    Moderator, can we kick him off this site, he just abuses anyone who looks after a child, and says little which is constructive. Look at the above…"selfish arrogant greedy PWC's" "money money money" "PWC's restrict contact" "corruption by the devil" "greedy demands" something about "jesus and diciples" etc… etc.. etc…

  36. Allan Morrell on December 14th, 2010 4:09 pm

    Lisa… I didnt ask for you to justify your £42,800.00I dont believe you'll recieve it anyway!!!! I wouldnt be surprised if it was a fictional calculation by CSA or your commenting to CSA about your NRP's finances, but clearly if you hav success in obtaining such money…. we'll probably see you in a new car, dresses and a good ole knees up so to speak!!!!If you havent recieved any payment from such a calculation by now… clearly you wont recieve it in the future… but keep window shopping ya wish list… just incase you may be luckier than the PWC's with absent NRP's!!!!!

  37. Lisa Hunter on December 14th, 2010 4:38 pm

    You asked over how many years Mr Morrell…now i bid you good day!

  38. Allan Morrell on December 14th, 2010 5:11 pm

    Maxine… my comments clearly are directed at selfish arrogant greedy PWC's… why comment when it does not include you???If you dont wish a response, dont direct a comment to me by inclusion or approach with my name..which clearly would cause me to reply with my comments or specific opinions relating to the PWC and CSA/CMEC!!!!!!You made your critisism and you do not like my response…. If you dont like it… ignore it… I am not your ex and I wasnt making a personal attack on you as a PWC or as an ex….. I comment in regards to the PWC's who do act in the way I comment about……I have an opinion, I made it….. i HAD A COMMENT FOR YOUR COMMENT… I STATED IT!!I am entitled to make comment, I am entitled to justify my actions as an NRP, I am entitled to free speech.. I am entitled to support NRPs and the children relevant….provide compassion and understanding to those who are suffering from financial and emotional destruction caused by the actions of the selfish arrogant and greedy unreasonable PWC and CSA!!! And I have compassion for the "reasonable" PWC's who are being denied access to the monetary donations provided by NRP's made by PAYE-DEO' long as such DEO's are reasonable and fair to NRP… not huge chunks of arrears based on fictional calculations…….Maybe if the society of greed began to understand what Christmas is all about considering we're not that far away from such a celebration of compassion, understanding and being charitable to those who are in real need!!!!!!!! this country would be in a better state of affairs… currently, society is motivated by GREED… rather than the desire to motivate their own compassion for other people… e.g. child and NRP!!!!It is not the CSA that restricts NRP and Child contact… that is the action of a PWC and CAFCASS who are willing to prevent contact so that the PWC gets more tax free income…. in the form of their God….MONEY!!!!! There are NRP's and children suffering from such neglect of a child by the PWC commiting such horrendous acts against the Child and the NRP!!!!!!!I choose to think of others who are much worse off financially and emotionally than I… NOT JUST MYSELF OR MY FINANCES!!!I CHOOSE TO PROVIDE FOR MY CHILD IN THE BEST WAY I CAN!!!! Critisise as you like about my commitment to my responsibities as an NRP!!!! I dont whinge about any money owed to me but there are many PWC's on here who do!!!!!I argue my case… If I'm successfull then hooray henry!!!!! if not… Hooray henry again… I will not be eaten up by the Devilish selfish greed for money…..I will always rely on my own ability to provide for my child… If I was the PWC… I wouldnt expect any monetory donations to raise my child but with equal responsibility and compromise to meet our childs needs as affordable and as minimal as finance can handle with effective budgeting and survival skills!!!!!!Both NRP and PWC are entitled to live comfortably… not the NRP waiting for another threat from CSA….. not another restriction of access between NRP and PWC….not having to worry about whether he can afford to finance 2 households when one is where the NRP aint a resident!!!!2 parents=2 homes…… each with general household amenities (Gas, electric, water…. TV's, PC's, Games Consoles… Bike….Toiletries, hygeine maintenance, Food…… )Provision of clothing and footwear, help with homework, attending school projects/evenings…. love, guidance, and general parental responsibilities!!!! Financial provision by purchase!!!!!!!!THE CSA WILL NOT BE IMPROVED… THE GOVERNMENT IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY!!!!!!!!!!!!WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?????? HONESTLY!!! you PWC's make me wann giggle to the point I finally explode in Laughter at such stupidity that supports CSA/CMEC and believes in its improvements for the best interests of the child involved!!!!!!!!!

  39. Allan Morrell on December 14th, 2010 5:23 pm

    Lisa… a simple question about how many years….. not an atack as if you were my ex…. A simple question of… in how many years did it accumulate… It's still greed… no matter how you dress it up… especially at that sum!!!…….. PING PING!!! £,£££.££……. errrrrrr! duh!!!!!

  40. Allan Morrell on December 14th, 2010 5:31 pm

    whoops! a correction from comment 2 Maxine… paragraph ammenment as folows….Both NRP and PWC are entitled to live comfortably… not the NRP waiting for another threat from CSA….. not another restriction of access between NRP and Child…not having to worry about whether he can afford to finance 2 households when one is where the NRP aint a resident!!!!

  41. Allan Morrell on December 14th, 2010 5:47 pm

    Gone for walk with dogs while awaiting the acummulation of rants about my ranting again!!!!!

  42. Mark Yak Attack Howard on December 14th, 2010 8:00 pm

    Allan,I agree with you because you speak the truth and obviously maxine is just another bitter and twisted PWC looking for an easy life.

  43. Allan Morrell on December 14th, 2010 8:43 pm

    It's the truth that causes the guilty to respond defensively due to paranoid anxieties awakening… all because of how close the truth is to the reality….

  44. Jody Langton on December 15th, 2010 12:27 pm

    WELL SAID ALLAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!My partner and I have suffered at the hands of PWC and CSA for too long now. I've been in touch with my MP in the past and all I can say is… What a waste of time she was! Now we have a new MP I think its time to pay them a visit regarding the amount of arrears the CSA reckon I owe AND the amount they are taking by PAYE DEO.I've tried dealing with the CSA in the past and you just end up in a complete mess. They think they know best and they think they can treat us NRP's like criminals. They make up ficticious amounts of arrears based on NOTHING! and then procceed to scare the life out of the NRP's.When is this government going to wake up and sort out the CSA once and for all?

  45. Allan Morrell on December 15th, 2010 8:14 pm

    Hmmmmm! wonder what Lisa, Makine and sarah-jayne plus Annika have to say in comment to the relevant comments made which I have presented and argued about on numerous occasions with them….Thes above comments who are experiencing the very same issues that these named PWC's have tried to condemn me for voicing the very same issue about the evil arrogant selfish greedy PWC's… I wonder if they have any comment to make….. Hmmmmm!!!!Evidence speaks for itself my dear abhorrent evil selfish PWC's who use the CSA to destroy the NRP financially and emotionally furthermore destroying the child!!!!

  46. Allan Morrell on December 15th, 2010 8:15 pm

    Maxine… soooo sorry I spelt ya name wrong…..

  47. Allan Morrell on December 15th, 2010 8:31 pm

    Note: maxines comment earlier in this forum thread;Maxine Knowles comment copied and pasted… I so love this:….Moderator, can we kick him off this site, he just abuses anyone who looks after a child, and says little which is constructive. Look at the above…"selfish arrogant greedy PWC's" "money money money" "PWC's restrict contact" "corruption by the devil" "greedy demands" something about "jesus and diciples" etc… etc.. etc…Yesterday at 4:05pm · UnlikeLike · 2 peopleYou and Sarah-Jayne Pattimore like this. · ……………..I look after my child.. weekends and school holidays due to shared care…. If I am abusing anyone who looks after a child… Then I must be abusing myself according to Maxine Knowles!!!!!!!!!

  48. Jody Langton on December 16th, 2010 10:25 am

    Well said as usual Allan!!!I havent even seen my 2 children for over a year now because of PWC using them to hurt myself and my partner. She's brianwashed them good and proper to the point where my 15 year old son cant even think for himself and does EVERYTHIN PWC tells him to do. EVEN when he KNOWS its wrong!!!!!Its not just NRP's that this sick, bitter and twisted PWC's hurt. Its their own children too. Which for me begs the question…. WHY are they allowed to systematically ABUSE their own children in this way???These PWC's wouldnt get away with this shit in USA so why does this joke of a government let them get away with it???And for ANY of you PWC's who think turning your own children against their own NRP is not wrong then I suggest you sicko's look up P.A.S

  49. Allan Morrell on December 16th, 2010 10:36 am

    PWC's who abuse their children in this way think of only themselves, maybe they are so used to getting their own way by manipulation and being control freaks…. usually the nature of when they were a child… they got everything they wanted by screaming…. If the circle isnt broken then…. then the person remains the same in their adult life and will consequently find themselves not being happy with what they have and demand for more, they will never stop want want want attitude…. These people when they become parents and find themselves as lone parents… will pass on this negative selfish greedy attitude to the child….. because child learns from parent they spend most of their time with…. being the PWC……The child's future happiness is destroyed by selfish arrogant greedy PWC…. this is child abuse…..PWC's who use CSA as a revenge against NRP are child abusers!!!Now watch for the response of the child abusing PWC's who are unhappy with my comment raise their opinions in defense!!!!!

  50. Jody Langton on December 16th, 2010 10:43 am

    Yet another great post Allan. It IS child abuse and is reckognised as such in a lot of countries. However this pisstaking government are more than happy to allow it to happen. they talk about how bad (physical) child abuse is in this country yet they do NOTHING about the MENTAL ABUSE that goes on!!!!

  51. Allan Morrell on December 16th, 2010 10:48 am

    The government supports child abuse, that is why they created CSA!!!

  52. Jody Langton on December 16th, 2010 10:52 am

    Maggie Thatcher has a hell of a lot to answer for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  53. Allan Morrell on December 16th, 2010 10:55 am

    the current government has a lot to answer for by continuation of Maggies Utopia for mothers!!!!

  54. Jody Langton on December 16th, 2010 11:02 am

    very true. Isn't it amazing that the only time the government change the law is if something bad happens to one of them

  55. rupi josh on April 14th, 2011 7:11 pm

    Well, having seen how CMEC and the CSA work its not surprising. We had 12 letters – all conflicting – within a single week. They said anything from you have made overpayments of over £2K to you owe £12K in arrears. More to the point, they allow my husband’s ex wife – who lives in eastern europe – to apply over and over again- despite having been told that a) there is a court order that is less than a year old in place b) where she lives. Its stressful to say the least, especially since we don’t have alot of money coming in, with me being on maternity leave and my husband just having lost his job. We can’t budget based on what the CSA will send next week. This is sanctioned harassment and I hope that the CSA/CMEC is shut down for good and that there are more hurdles for PWC to have to go through before they can use child maintenance as a way of punishing the NRP.

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